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[STEMO]

Just watched a Mazda 2 leave all the beemers behind on a chase. 160mph 

[Doctor Gollum]

Was 160mph the voice over speed or the 'we' ve some catching up to do, stamp on it speed?

The only way a Mazda 2 can do 160mph is on a plane

[STEMO]

Was 160mph the voice over speed or the 'we' ve some catching up to do, stamp on it speed?

The only way a Mazda 2 can do 160mph is on a plane

Well....watch the fûckin thing, shouldn't be beyond your capabilities 

[Doctor Gollum]

That would involve changing the channel 

[STEMO]

That would involve changing the channel 

Maybe, but it would prove you wrong, again 

[dave the builder]

the Mazda must of had a head start 

[Nick W]

Just watched a Mazda 2 leave all the beemers behind on a chase. 160mph 

LHD drive?


160KPH??


Less impressive now???

[dave the builder]

aren't even plod beamers limited to 155 MPH 

[STEMO]

Just rewound .....Mazda 3, sorry. Twin exhausts, sporty looking..160mph.

[STEMO]

Just watched a Mazda 2 leave all the beemers behind on a chase. 160mph 

LHD drive?


160KPH??


Less impressive now???

Errrr...no...160mph 

[Doctor Gollum]

That would involve changing the channel 

Maybe, but it would prove you wrong, again 

Nope, all it would prove is that I had changed the channel 

[STEMO]

That would involve changing the channel 

Maybe, but it would prove you wrong, again 

Nope, all it would prove is that I had changed the channel 

If you'd have done five minutes ago you'd have heard them say that the Mazda driver doing 160mph was never caught 

[STEMO]

Still...if you prefer Corrie..

[YZ250]

Just rewound .....Mazda 3, sorry. Twin exhausts, sporty looking..160mph.

Thought I'd give it a go but when the preview said that the occupants of a fleeing Mazda were throwing fire extinguishers at chasing cops at 165mph I didn't think my dodgy ticker would stand the comedy excitement.   
Mazda will want that car back to find out how, if it was a GT, which isn't even quick to 60mph, managed to gain an extra 35mph top speed. Where do they find these presenters. 

[STEMO]

Just rewound .....Mazda 3, sorry. Twin exhausts, sporty looking..160mph.

Thought I'd give it a go but when the preview said that the occupants of a fleeing Mazda were throwing fire extinguishers at chasing cops at 165mph I didn't think my dodgy ticker would stand the comedy excitement.   
Mazda will want that car back to find out how, if it was a GT, which isn't even quick to 60mph, managed to gain an extra 35mph top speed. Where do they find these presenters. 

Beemer was flat out, which I believe is 155, and couldn't keep up. Maybe it was a Japanese import 

[Doctor Gollum]

JDM cars are generally restricted to 180 km/h

[Doctor Gollum]

None of that woke pc rubbish

[STEMO]

JDM cars are generally restricted to 180 km/h

Maybe the beemer could only do 155kph 

[Raeturbo]

No, the Mazda 3mps is a serious bit of kit 2.3ltr turbo. 155mph standard and it only takes a little breathing on to really make it fly👍

[YZ250]

No, the Mazda 3mps is a serious bit of kit 2.3ltr turbo. 155mph standard and it only takes a little breathing on to really make it fly👍

Well that explains that then, if it's a genuinely quick car.    I hold my hands up, I've never heard of a 3mps.    Perhaps I should have watched it. 

[STEMO]

No, the Mazda 3mps is a serious bit of kit 2.3ltr turbo. 155mph standard and it only takes a little breathing on to really make it fly👍

3 miles per second? No wonder they couldn't catch it 

[henryd]

No, the Mazda 3mps is a serious bit of kit 2.3ltr turbo. 155mph standard and it only takes a little breathing on to really make it fly👍

I've driven a re-mapped one and it was bloody quick ,250 odd bhp out of the box so probably 280 once mapped

[Raeturbo]

Indeed, 300bhp 320lbsft  stage1.

[johnnydog]

aren't even plod beamers limited to 155 MPH 

If Joe Public can order / spec a new Audi (from Audi, not a third party supplier) with the top speed limiter raised from 155mph to 174mph, I don't think any Police Force ordering new vehicles would have any problem in doing the same.
Appreciate I have referenced Audi, but I'm certain other manufacturers may offer the same, especially for the Police.

[deviator]

MPS engine is 256BHP as standard, throw £1k at it and you'll get +60bhp. You can push these to 400bhp, but it's not cheap and the rods are known to be a bit Cadbury's.

[STEMO]

aren't even plod beamers limited to 155 MPH 

If Joe Public can order / spec a new Audi (from Audi, not a third party supplier) with the top speed limiter raised from 155mph to 174mph, I don't think any Police Force ordering new vehicles would have any problem in doing the same.
Appreciate I have referenced Audi, but I'm certain other manufacturers may offer the same, especially for the Police.

Well....the beemer on traffic cops last night was obviously limited, that's why he couldn't catch the Mazda.

[Raeturbo]

Don’t forget it’s a policeman’s job for money, he want to get home to his family after work. The criminals are driving for their freedom, probably high on something and couldn’t give a toss.

[deviator]

Don’t forget it’s a policeman’s job for money, he want to get home to his family after work. The criminals are driving for their freedom, probably high on something and couldn’t give a toss.

Unlike the American's. There is a video of US police officer PIT'ing a suspect at over 100mph.
PLEASE NOTE - I have not linked the video to this as the suspect didn't make it. If you do search for this on youtube, please be aware you are seeing someone die.

[johnnydog]

Probably was limited to 155mph.
Another 'urban myth' that used to circulate years ago that Police Cars were 'souped up' was not true. They had additional equipment such as bigger alternators, firmer suspension and additional speedometers etc etc, but they weren't 'souped up' as such, and years ago were straight off the production line with local Police vehicle workshops adding the additional equipment relative to their use. In the 'good old days', they were possibly in a better state of 'tune' than Joe Publics like for like cars, which may have contributed to the thought that they were faster
Today, most manufacturers supply Police spec'd vehicles already equipped with the additional wiring looms and light bars etc etc rather than standard vehicles being equipped by the Police themselves. I often see transporters up and down from Ford for example with brand cars kitted out for the Police even with the livery (which is now to a standard - 3M for one) sometimes minus local crests. Some radio equipment is still unique to each individual Force, but the cars themselves are standard vehicles as supplied to anyone.
But every man on the street still believe Police cars are faster (which is no bad thing)

[YZ250]

Well whatever it was I apologise for being cynical. 

[Doctor Gollum]

Don’t forget it’s a policeman’s job for money, he want to get home to his family after work. The criminals are driving for their freedom, probably high on something and couldn’t give a toss.

Unlike the American's. There is a video of US police officer PIT'ing a suspect at over 100mph.
PLEASE NOTE - I have not linked the video to this as the suspect didn't make it. If you do search for this on youtube, please be aware you are seeing someone die.

There are several.

[deviator]

There are several.

Sadly yes, 'Pit at 109mph' gets the video I was looking at.

AGAIN - The suspect died. Viewer discretion advised.

[Doctor Gollum]

It wasn't the PIT that killed him, but the subsequent impacts pure chance that the police car landed on it twice. The State Trooper involved walked from it

The full video gives a much better context than the two minute clip.

PITing a vehicle, at any speed, tends to be a last resort, and isn't a decision that's necessarily made by the offficer that does it, there is usually supervision responsible for the whole pursuit.

[STEMO]

It wasn't the PIT that killed him, but the subsequent impacts pure chance that the police car landed on it twice. The State Trooper involved walked from it

The full video gives a much better context than the two minute clip.

PITing a vehicle, at any speed, tends to be a last resort, and isn't a decision that's necessarily made by the offficer that does it, there is usually supervision responsible for the whole pursuit.

If he'd have been in a Mazda they'd have never caught him.

[deviator]

If he'd have been in a Mazda they'd have never caught him.

Knowing the US's level headed approach to such things, they probably send a missile after the car if they couldn't catch it.

[Doctor Gollum]

Those Dodge Chargers give a diseasal 5 series some pretty stiff competition...

https://youtu.be/67ZuPS8Yi9g

[raywilb]

Just watched a Mazda 2 leave all the beemers behind on a chase. 160mph 

i saw that too. pulled away from the chasers

[Raeturbo]

Just watched a Mazda 2 leave all the beemers behind on a chase. 160mph 

i saw that too. pulled away from the chasers

                No you watched a Mazda3mps

[TheBoy]

The police should stop cooperating in these pointless trailer trash shows as it makes them look

a) Incompetent
b) Arrogant
c) Too risk adverse

All this makes it too easy for the crims to run rings around them, and even if they do get caught, they will have the knowlege they will get a 14 day suspended.

[STEMO]

The police should stop cooperating in these pointless trailer trash shows as it makes them look

a) Incompetent
b) Arrogant
c) Too risk adverse

All this makes it too easy for the crims to run rings around them, and even if they do get caught, they will have the knowlege they will get a 14 day suspended.

If that's the way they portray themselves, then it must have a ring of truth.

[raywilb]

The police should stop cooperating in these pointless trailer trash shows as it makes them look

a) Incompetent
b) Arrogant
c) Too risk adverse

All this makes it too easy for the crims to run rings around them, and even if they do get caught, they will have the knowlege they will get a 14 day suspended.

about the punishment leniency i totally agree. once caught they should be made culpable & pay for the total cost of the chase & all consequences entailed. when a helicopter is launched i believe that alone costs £ 6k

[dave the builder]

I imagine lots of cases got dropped by the CPS when Covid started
not wanting to send criminals to jail in case of covid outbreaks

[Doctor Gollum]

The police should stop cooperating in these pointless trailer trash shows as it makes them look

a) Incompetent
b) Arrogant
c) Too risk adverse

All this makes it too easy for the crims to run rings around them, and even if they do get caught, they will have the knowlege they will get a 14 day suspended.

That's why the full pursuits are generally a better perspective.

[Rangie]

My Son is a copper in Yorkshire he has been driving a Kia Stinger for the last month or so he reckons it's a very nice vehicle, I haven't even seen one yet ( in the flesh) normally uses a Sportage apparently they get a very good deal from Kia.

[STEMO]

The police should stop cooperating in these pointless trailer trash shows as it makes them look

a) Incompetent
b) Arrogant
c) Too risk adverse

All this makes it too easy for the crims to run rings around them, and even if they do get caught, they will have the knowlege they will get a 14 day suspended.

about the punishment leniency i totally agree. once caught they should be made culpable & pay for the total cost of the chase & all consequences entailed. when a helicopter is launched i believe that alone costs £ 6k

Plus....if some brain dead twonk decides to reverse his stolen 4x4 into a police car, he should be made to pay for the damage or, failing that, serve extra time.

[STEMO]

Instead of bleeding hearts saying that less people should be be kept out of prison because of the overcrowding and poor conditions, they should be asking for bigger, better prisons. Ones that will house 20,000 prisoners, lots of them too.

[Raeturbo]

Instead of bleeding hearts saying that less people should be be kept out of prison because of the overcrowding and poor conditions, they should be asking for bigger, better prisons. Ones that will house 20,000 prisoners, lots of them too.

                Agree fully, it would probably cost less in the long run.

[Rangie]

They would never staff them ,HMPS is struggling to keep staff at present, so many have left in the last 12 months it's only experienced staff that kept the lids on in many establishments jailcraft takes years to learn youngsters of 18 can barely string a sentence together ,it's going to be a timebomb at many Prisons under the regimes that are being run during the Pandemic.

[STEMO]

They would never staff them ,HMPS is struggling to keep staff at present, so many have left in the last 12 months it's only experienced staff that kept the lids on in many establishments jailcraft takes years to learn youngsters of 18 can barely string a sentence together ,it's going to be a timebomb at many Prisons under the regimes that are being run during the Pandemic.

The experienced would teach the green, in a modern prison where offenders are segregated in small units and only allowed to mix once they've proven themselves trustworthy. All visitors would be scanned, searched and, if found with contraband, would be jailed themselves, kids or no kids. Mobile signals would be jammed, and electrical equipment would be earned through hard work, not given as a right. Cells would be made of modern, fireproof materials, soft(ish), so that headbangers could headbang away. All post would chemically processed to eradicate that particular avenue.

[STEMO]

Ahhhhh.....I've just been having a lovely dream.......

[Rangie]

Ahhhhh.....I've just been having a lovely dream.......

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Steve you should have been a Governor, but you missed one thing firearms should be directed at bodymass not the head area as advised in the USA..😁

[Doctor Gollum]

They would never staff them ,HMPS is struggling to keep staff at present, so many have left in the last 12 months it's only experienced staff that kept the lids on in many establishments jailcraft takes years to learn youngsters of 18 can barely string a sentence together ,it's going to be a timebomb at many Prisons under the regimes that are being run during the Pandemic.

That's probably because the existing prisons weren't fit for purpose 100 years ago, let alone today.

[STEMO]

Ahhhhh.....I've just been having a lovely dream.......

. 


Steve you should have been a Governor, but you missed one thing firearms should be directed at bodymass not the head area as advised in the USA..😁

There would be no need, Mick, electronically controlled metal gates could isolate any part of the prison at the push of a button. From a whole wing down to an individual cell, just lock them in and open the built in CS gas valves, they'd soon behave themselves. 



Gissa job.

[Raeturbo]

Holy shit! Stemo has revealed himself...  he’s God

[TheBoy]

They would never staff them ,HMPS is struggling to keep staff at present, so many have left in the last 12 months it's only experienced staff that kept the lids on in many establishments jailcraft takes years to learn youngsters of 18 can barely string a sentence together ,it's going to be a timebomb at many Prisons under the regimes that are being run during the Pandemic.

I think thats pretty universal in any larger workplace.

Experience is perceived to be too expensive.

[Rangie]

They would never staff them ,HMPS is struggling to keep staff at present, so many have left in the last 12 months it's only experienced staff that kept the lids on in many establishments jailcraft takes years to learn youngsters of 18 can barely string a sentence together ,it's going to be a timebomb at many Prisons under the regimes that are being run during the Pandemic.

I think thats pretty universal in any larger workplace.

Experience is perceived to be too expensive.

. 

You've hit the nail right on the head ,new staff were on £12,000 a year less than staff that were in place before the new wage structure, pay peanuts get monkeys as the saying goes.