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0335 with paperclip
« on: 07 July 2009, 21:12:46 »

Hi.
Just did a paperclipstunt on my Omega B X20XEV, and the result was a 0335 (10,3,3,5), and from what i can see, that is a cranckshaft sensor reporting something.
Anyone have any experience with this error?
The reason i did the diagnostic in the first place was that I often experience a misfire and loss of enginepower, followed by the enginesymbol on the dash.

Can anyone give me some advise?

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Re: 0335 with paperclip
« Reply #1 on: 07 July 2009, 21:31:33 »

yeah, cranksensor. Easy if no a/c, fiddly if you do
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Re: 0335 with paperclip
« Reply #2 on: 07 July 2009, 21:34:27 »

No A/C, so that makes it a non-fiddly bit then, eh?
Anywhere I can find some instructions?

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Re: 0335 with paperclip
« Reply #3 on: 08 July 2009, 20:21:19 »

So, is the crancksensor fault the reason my car is acting up?

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Re: 0335 with paperclip
« Reply #4 on: 10 July 2009, 14:13:07 »

Anyone?
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Re: 0335 with paperclip
« Reply #5 on: 10 July 2009, 19:18:31 »

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So, is the crancksensor fault the reason my car is acting up?
Supah

Yes.

It's mounted on the crankcase just forward of your
oil dipstick tube.

Seeing as you have no AirCon you can do it in two ways.

Either:
1)Undo single dipstick attachment bolt, remove dipstick tube,
block hole in crankcase to stop anything falling in,
change sensor from top.

Or:

2) Jack car up, insert axle stand, change it from underneath.

The cable runs up from the sensor attached to built-in
clips on the Cambelt Cover and joins a connector near
to your alternator. Suggest you re-route the bottom
third, where it goes behind your power steering pump,
and bring it round the front of your power steering pump,
and then reclip it on the original route up and over your
cam cover. This will stop it giving a direct run for oil
drips and condensation to track down, enter the sheath
that covers the final section, collect on your sensor and
cook and crack it.

In my opinion, this is what makes the sensor on the 4 pots
fail, where as it's the heat on the 6 pots.

Hope that helps.
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Re: 0335 with paperclip
« Reply #6 on: 10 July 2009, 22:48:10 »

Thanks for that detailed procedure, and for the re-routing advise.
I still fail to see why this crankshaft sensor causes a misfire and loss of power though. But then again, I am no car wiz, so I'll take your word for it :)

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Re: 0335 with paperclip
« Reply #7 on: 10 July 2009, 22:51:32 »

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Thanks for that detailed procedure, and for the re-routing advise.
I still fail to see why this crankshaft sensor causes a misfire and loss of power though. But then again, I am no car wiz, so I'll take your word for it :)

Chaos

Crankshaft sensor tells the ECU where the rotational position of the crank is .... this is directly related to the position of the valves and pistons... the ECU uses this information to decide when to send fuel in vis the injectors, and when to send the spark to ignite that fuel.

If the information from the crank sensor is corrupt/wrong then the fuel and ignition timing goes all to pot.... 

If information is missing the engine stops. Dead.
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Re: 0335 with paperclip
« Reply #8 on: 11 July 2009, 14:51:07 »

Ah, that makes sense. Thank you.
Is this a dangerous condition to keep driving in? Does it damage the engine in any way?

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Re: 0335 with paperclip
« Reply #9 on: 12 July 2009, 19:57:20 »

as written in another post i have similar symptoms. no dead engine tho!

 Anyone got any photos to help with this situation?

unfortunately i have a/c so might be a bigger pain!
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Re: 0335 with paperclip
« Reply #10 on: 16 July 2009, 19:32:16 »

Well, the enginge isn't dead. I just experience a loss of power for a second or two, then it's back and running again, allthough with the enigne warning light.
As I plan to drive around 1000km this summer, i would like to know if this condition damages the engine in any way.
Anyone?

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Re: 0335 with paperclip
« Reply #11 on: 17 July 2009, 03:57:17 »

my engine has been damaged, the head's coming off tomorrow. Don't know yet if it's related to the faulty crankshaft sensor. That had worn wiring which might've caused some shorts in other electrics.. yet to find out fully.

All signs are toward HG failure so we'll have to see :(
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Re: 0335 with paperclip
« Reply #12 on: 17 July 2009, 06:01:59 »

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Well, the enginge isn't dead. I just experience a loss of power for a second or two, then it's back and running again, allthough with the enigne warning light.
As I plan to drive around 1000km this summer, i would like to know if this condition damages the engine in any way.
Anyone?

Chaos

Just change the crank sensor then problem solved, would'nt risk having to drive 1000k with it being dodgy, as it will probably at some stage start cutting out altogether, which is'nt very nice, this has happened to me, just get it changed :y
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Re: 0335 with paperclip
« Reply #13 on: 17 July 2009, 09:10:24 »

Ok, thx for the info.
Guess I'll be doing some auto-repair before we leave, eh? ;)

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Re: 0335 with paperclip
« Reply #14 on: 17 July 2009, 09:56:40 »

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So, is the crancksensor fault the reason my car is acting up?
Supah

Yes.

It's mounted on the crankcase just forward of your
oil dipstick tube.

Seeing as you have no AirCon you can do it in two ways.

Either:
1)Undo single dipstick attachment bolt, remove dipstick tube,
block hole in crankcase to stop anything falling in,
change sensor from top.

Or:

2) Jack car up, insert axle stand, change it from underneath.

The cable runs up from the sensor attached to built-in
clips on the Cambelt Cover and joins a connector near
to your alternator. Suggest you re-route the bottom
third, where it goes behind your power steering pump,
and bring it round the front of your power steering pump,
and then reclip it on the original route up and over your
cam cover. This will stop it giving a direct run for oil
drips and condensation to track down, enter the sheath
that covers the final section, collect on your sensor and
cook and crack it.

In my opinion, this is what makes the sensor on the 4 pots
fail, where as it's the heat on the 6 pots.

Hope that helps.
Fancy writing a maintenence guide then :P
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