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Title: Coolant transfer pipe well stuck
Post by: gavlar001 on 10 January 2020, 18:56:42
Hi its gav again was all going well, Bstard bolt has came off eventually lol.Swear box is overfilling but the coolant transfer pipe is welded tight to the thermostat.The old bracket on the transfer pipe cast has broken off where i was hitting it.the thermostat has cracked across the bottom near the bolt but is still fixed in the bolts are loose and ive had them out but put them back in to keep the pressure on it.An ideas drill it out with a series of small holes further up the try and shatter it maybe.Any help would be great thanks Gavin.
Title: Re: Coolant transfer pipe well stuck
Post by: mantaray on 10 January 2020, 19:32:23
Try spraying the join between thermostat and pipe with WD40,
Title: Re: Coolant transfer pipe well stuck
Post by: gavlar001 on 10 January 2020, 19:41:18
tried some stuff earlier but have done it again i might have to keep soaking it over time.bloody hell unless someones glued it
Title: Re: Coolant transfer pipe well stuck
Post by: Webby the Bear on 10 January 2020, 19:50:16
I don’t wish to sound like a dick. But I’ve just done mine and it came out with a gentle pull. The silicone grease was still on the O rings! 👍

Right now to actually helping...... just smash it to bits is what I would do. Then replace 👍👍👍
Title: Re: Coolant transfer pipe well stuck
Post by: YZ250 on 10 January 2020, 19:59:38
I split mine where the two parts join by whacking a metal tipped (handle end) screwdriver between the thermostat housing and the transfer pipe. Make sure you cover the sandwich plate area with rag to stop any bits from going where they shouldn't be and leave the thermostat housing bolted tight. If you can get grips on the open end you could try wiggling the life out of it but mine wasn't playing ball that way so I split the transfer pipe where it enters the stat housing. I promised myself that if I ever had to do it again I would dremel a slot in the join and split it open to free the pipe rather than pissing about like I did the first time.  :)
The annoying part is, if they'd made this pipe an inch shorter it would have come out through the valley side with the stat housing still attached.  ::)
Title: Re: Coolant transfer pipe well stuck
Post by: Webby the Bear on 10 January 2020, 20:01:46
...or if you want a less violent approach have you got a dremmel or similar? That with a cut off bit will have them in two pieces in under a minute. Anything bigger you may struggle as I know access is tight.
Title: Re: Coolant transfer pipe well stuck
Post by: Webby the Bear on 10 January 2020, 20:02:32
Too slow 🤣

What he said 👍👍👍
Title: Re: Coolant transfer pipe well stuck
Post by: amba on 10 January 2020, 20:52:22
That was how I separated mine the first time I changed thermostat.

Ensure B bolt is out and thermostat housing is still bolted down.Get a long thick screwdriver and position it just donw from where pipe enters stat housing.Cover everything with old towel or plenty of rags and hit the screwdriver head with a firm wack..that should split the alloy transfer pipe and then you can take it away in bits.Then undo the stat housing and throw the lot in bin.

Fit new shiny parts and start swearing at B bolt again
Title: Re: Coolant transfer pipe well stuck
Post by: gavlar001 on 10 January 2020, 21:16:56
 ;D gotta love it thanks guys.Glad ive attemped it. I will wait until monday now as im working.Ive got a dremel with a flexi extension put a cut off wheel on it and cut it off.Still its nearly done lol except the bstard bolt getting it back in.Transmission has been working fine since i changed the gear selector switch.I noticed in TIS that they use a kent moore switch unit to set the position as it plugs into the switch, its got lights on it and when lined up they flash.I did see one on ebay other day.
Title: Re: Coolant transfer pipe well stuck
Post by: Webby the Bear on 10 January 2020, 21:39:55
With upper rad hose and pas pipes in situ I imagine the B bolt would be a pain. I removed pas pipe and upper rad hose entirely. B bolt gave me no issues.

Re the Dremell, I actually bought mine a few weeks back. What a piece of kit. And the extension is genius in my opinion.
Title: Re: Coolant transfer pipe well stuck
Post by: gavlar001 on 10 January 2020, 21:52:16
Yep mate i will take off the power steering res and pipes as you know there aint no room for anything in there.With those out the way should help. Yep the dremel with the extension is good, i dont know why i didnt think of using it lol. Hands are well and truly battered though.Does the engine lift bracket come off it seems to want to just swivel out the way like its attached to something at the bottom and is it lift bracket, dipstick then coolant pipe bracket in that order on the refit.Thanks
Title: Re: Coolant transfer pipe well stuck
Post by: Webby the Bear on 10 January 2020, 21:57:37
I ditched the lift bracket lol just transfer pipe and dipstick 👍
Title: Re: Coolant transfer pipe well stuck
Post by: YZ250 on 10 January 2020, 22:25:24
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Does the engine lift bracket come off it seems to want to just swivel out the way like its attached to something at the bottom ......

It has an angled tab on it so just try different angles to unhook it from its slot. Getting it back in is either really easy or a pain in the arse, as you can't see shit from above so you are working blind. If you don't put it back in, be careful of tightening the B Bolt too much as the engine lift bracket acts as a spacer as well, so you can easily snap the tab off the transfer pipe. Other than that it's quite straightforward.  ;D
Title: Re: Coolant transfer pipe well stuck
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 11 January 2020, 05:03:45
I ditched the lift bracket lol just transfer pipe and dipstick 👍
That significantly alters the position of the transfer pipe...

If you insist on leaving it out, then you should at least try and space it correctly  ;)
Title: Re: Coolant transfer pipe well stuck
Post by: Webby the Bear on 11 January 2020, 07:42:24
I ditched the lift bracket lol just transfer pipe and dipstick 👍
That significantly alters the position of the transfer pipe...

If you insist on leaving it out, then you should at least try and space it correctly  ;)

Well it’s been like that for 6 years with no leaks. And no leaks following the stat change so I’m not worried. Though take ur point 👍
Title: Re: Coolant transfer pipe well stuck
Post by: amba on 11 January 2020, 08:16:09
When I replaced mine I decided that as the engine would never be lifted out by the eyes in my ownership to adopt a slightly different approach.

I took the lifting eye out and ran a 10mm drill bit through the hole in effect opening it up to over size for the B Bolt.

Believe me that makes life a whole lot easier getting the bolt back in when things are inplace as you arent too worried about everthing being perfectly aligned as you have quite abit of wiggle on the fittings .
I found that method helps enormously and even with pas reservoir and upper house all in place you can get the bolt in and out "fairly" easily .

Best of luck and hope my experience helps you
Title: Re: Coolant transfer pipe well stuck
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 11 January 2020, 09:51:41
I ditched the lift bracket lol just transfer pipe and dipstick 👍
That significantly alters the position of the transfer pipe...

If you insist on leaving it out, then you should at least try and space it correctly  ;)

Well it’s been like that for 6 years with no leaks. And no leaks following the stat change so I’m not worried. Though take ur point 👍
I vaguely recall saying the same last time you mentioned it...  ::)

 ;D
Title: Re: Coolant transfer pipe well stuck
Post by: Webby the Bear on 11 January 2020, 18:06:10
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Title: Re: Coolant transfer pipe well stuck
Post by: gavlar001 on 11 January 2020, 22:07:43
Nice one for the input. I take it the best way to refit it all is bolt down the thermostat then grease the o rings and insert and slightly twist the coolant pipe until its in the correct position for the bolt.Thanks
Title: Re: Coolant transfer pipe well stuck
Post by: Webby the Bear on 12 January 2020, 09:06:16
Just like that mate 👍👍👍