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[tigers_gonads]

Well it was bound to happen sometime 
Went out to the car and the engine fails to turn over.
Batteries a little run down due to short journeys, 11.8 (key position 2)
Go to 3 and no clicking or anything other then the step motor on the throttle body doing its little dance.
Not even a volts drop.
Am I right in thinking there are no starter relay on the 3.2 ??
Got it on charge for a few hours but its pishing down and getting dark so any hammer wielding will have to wait until tomorrow.
Other then idioting the starter, any pointers ?
For reference, its is a 3.2 manual conversion so would have had the auto box loom shorted out by Serek.

[STEMO]

Try again tomorrow with the battery charged, that's assuming it's not knackered.

[tigers_gonads]

Try again tomorrow with the battery charged, that's assuming it's not knackered.

Battery should be sound.
Only 18 months old iirc.
All bonding straps seem to be tight / in one piece.
Just had my 3rd jab so my arms aching like fook 
I'll just have to get my arse out of bed early in morning and wield the hammer 

As for the jab, 5G signal is improving already 
Good shit this Pfizer 

[STEMO]

Try again tomorrow with the battery charged, that's assuming it's not knackered.

Battery should be sound.
Only 18 months old iirc.
All bonding straps seem to be tight / in one piece.
Just had my 3rd jab so my arms aching like fook 
I'll just have to get my arse out of bed early in morning and wield the hammer 

As for the jab, 5G signal is improving already 
Good shit this Pfizer 

Yes. I had my booster two weeks ago and I'm up to 120Mbs already 

[cam.in.head]

11.8 is a tad too low to spin it over but you would think it would operate the solenoid.each car / starter characteristics different within reason so dont panic yet.
i would imagine that with a charge everything will be fine although i wouldnt guarantee that the battery will be at its best anymore depending on how long its been left flat.
a good battery left fully charged when standing should survive easily 2 months without going near it.mine does 2 1/2 on a yuasa standard 3000. but was ok previous to that on a non name cheapo one for 2 months at a time .

[Nick W]

Battery should be sound.
Only 18 months old iirc.

Should be sound is not the same as is sound. It only being 18months just means that it might still be under guarantee.

11.8 volts is a bit low on charge, and the voltage tells you nothing about the condition of the battery.

[tigers_gonads]

Battery held 12.4 over night after a few hours on charge.
Battery charger is a 10 amp one with start facility.
Still won't turn over.
Looks like its "lay in puddle" time 

[Lizzie Zoom]

I do not know if it is the answer to your difficulty, but 20 years ago whilst visiting Manchester, my 3.0 Omega would not turn over, even though the battery was fully charged and I had just travelled 200 miles without a hitch.

The AA found that it was due to the a/c compressor seizing and stopping the engine from turning.

I hope this helps to at least tick off one possibility.

On that thought though, has the water pump or something else seized?

[johnnydog]

From what you've described, if you are happy the battery is holding a reasonable degree of charge in it,  I would be looking at the starter motor itself being the culprit. I've had two fail on different 3.2's, usually down to corrosion within the solenoid. It is sealed to the body when new, but water dripping down the back of the engine from the scuttle area falls in the direction of the starter and solenoid, and eventually does seep into the solenoid itself if the sealant is not doing its job due to age. If the car is in regular use, the engine heat and air flow dries any dampness, but on a car that is laid up, the dampness doesn't dry up and once it gets into the solenoid, could result in the starter simply not operating when the key is turned. Just something else worthy of checking.

[cam.in.head]

definately
and a 12v feed wire from the solenoid small terminal to the battery pos will prove one way or another.

[tigers_gonads]

Well finally managed to wedge my fat arse under the car with a assortment of meters, hammers and tools.
Poked it, slapped it and finally knocked the shit out it with a hammer 
Got a measurement of battery voltage on the HT side but anywhere between 5 and 8 volts on the LT side.
Had a quick check at the back of the ignition switch which gave me (near as damit) battery voltage so that got me really thinking..............
Back under the front I go for another look.
Crimps look okay then it hit me literally.
The floor is wet, the car is wet and i'm getting blinded by dripping water from the engine above 
Then the penny drops why I can't get a solid reading on the LT side 
Grabs a tea towel out of the kitchen (i'll suffer when the wife finds out  ) 
Gives the starter and solenoid a good rub down, grabs a puffer bottle of PX24 (duck oil to civvies) and proceeds to spray everywhere around the starter.
Gives it a minute then turn the key.
Needless to say it fires up first time 

Happy days 

Merry Christmas Oofers 


 

[tigers_gonads]

Try again tomorrow with the battery charged, that's assuming it's not knackered.

Battery should be sound.
Only 18 months old iirc.
All bonding straps seem to be tight / in one piece.
Just had my 3rd jab so my arms aching like fook 
I'll just have to get my arse out of bed early in morning and wield the hammer 

As for the jab, 5G signal is improving already 
Good shit this Pfizer 

Yes. I had my booster two weeks ago and I'm up to 120Mbs already 

 

[Doctor Gollum]

Try not to park in a puddle next time...