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Oil thread !
« on: 15 January 2022, 00:00:51 »

Will be  fitting a new turbo on the French contraption in the next few days, so purchased new oil and filter from Eurocraprats.
As usual put the reg. number in and got a list of suitable oils.
The top two were 0w-30 spec. then below that 5w-30 and 5w- 40.
For reasons I now cant remember I chose the one at the top, which happened to be 0w - 30.
https://www.eurocarparts.com/p/castrol-edge-c3-engine-oil-0w-30-4ltr-521770991

Now Im sat at work bored,so have done a lot of checking online and everything I look at says the recommended spec is 5w - 30.
Will it make any significant difference ?  I assume its a bit thinner, and a bit concerned it wont be good enough for my new turbo.
Dont want to blow the bloody thing up again after spending yet more time and money on it.
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Re: Oil thread !
« Reply #1 on: 15 January 2022, 11:15:14 »

It shouldn't make much practical difference. 0w30 is just a little runnier when cold than 5w30.

Surprised you splashed out instead of finding a suitable chip pan to empty into it, TBH. ;)
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Re: Oil thread !
« Reply #2 on: 15 January 2022, 11:17:48 »

Just looked at the link and far canal! Castrol Edge! You are treating her. She won't thank you, being french. ;)
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Re: Oil thread !
« Reply #3 on: 15 January 2022, 11:29:16 »

Just looked at the link and far canal! Castrol Edge! You are treating her. She won't thank you, being french. ;)
Pierre is trans?  :o
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Re: Oil thread !
« Reply #4 on: 15 January 2022, 11:32:18 »

Just looked at the link and far canal! Castrol Edge! You are treating her. She won't thank you, being french. ;)
Pierre is trans?  :o
Well, the modern way is to ask it if it would like to be assigned a gender or remain non binary, apparently. ;D
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Re: Oil thread !
« Reply #5 on: 15 January 2022, 11:37:14 »

Just looked at the link and far canal! Castrol Edge! You are treating her. She won't thank you, being french. ;)
Pierre is trans?  :o
Well, the modern way is to ask it if it would like to be assigned a gender or remain non binary, apparently. ;D
Apparently, I have two astras. Actually just one, but it is non binary and wants to be referred to as 'they/them'. The garage keeps trying to charge me twice when I book them in for a service.
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Re: Oil thread !
« Reply #6 on: 15 January 2022, 11:57:05 »

Just looked at the link and far canal! Castrol Edge! You are treating her. She won't thank you, being french. ;)
Pierre is trans?  :o
Well, the modern way is to ask it if it would like to be assigned a gender or remain non binary, apparently. ;D
Apparently, I have two astras. Actually just one, but it is non binary and wants to be referred to as 'they/them'. The garage keeps trying to charge me twice when I book them in for a service.
I bet driving them both there is entertaining. ;D
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Re: Oil thread !
« Reply #7 on: 15 January 2022, 12:20:16 »

Just looked at the link and far canal! Castrol Edge! You are treating her. She won't thank you, being french. ;)
Pierre is trans?  :o
Well, the modern way is to ask it if it would like to be assigned a gender or remain non binary, apparently. ;D
More likely would have to ask it if it's gonna start.  ;)
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Re: Oil thread !
« Reply #8 on: 15 January 2022, 12:30:49 »

Just looked at the link and far canal! Castrol Edge! You are treating her. She won't thank you, being french. ;)
Pierre is trans?  :o
Well, the modern way is to ask it if it would like to be assigned a gender or remain non binary, apparently. ;D
Elfs are androgynous so it's fine ;)
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Re: Oil thread !
« Reply #9 on: 15 January 2022, 13:04:24 »

Just looked at the link and far canal! Castrol Edge! You are treating her. She won't thank you, being french. ;)
Pierre is trans?  :o
Well, the modern way is to ask it if it would like to be assigned a gender or remain non binary, apparently. ;D

Apparently there is now such a thing as female penis. :)......and it is transphobic to say otherwise. :-X

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Re: Oil thread !
« Reply #10 on: 15 January 2022, 14:31:35 »

I will be fitting a brand new, genuine Renault (Borg Warner actually) turbo (which I picked up £125 !!) and want to give it a good start in life by treating it to good quality oil.
Thanks Kevin for the advice I feel a bit more relaxed about it now.
However I have another question about the oil now. The Castrol Edge is C3 spec. According to the official Renault bumf I came across on the interweb last night the spec should be B4.
Is that also likely to have any detrimental effect in the real world ?
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Re: Oil thread !
« Reply #11 on: 15 January 2022, 14:41:25 »

This may help.
https://www.opieoils.co.uk/t-acea-car-engine-oils-specification-explained.aspx

As has been said previously in another topic, whilst different oils may appear to be the same viscosity, its also the API and the subsequent letters that matter to ensure the oil is actually correct for your particular engine.
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Re: Oil thread !
« Reply #12 on: 15 January 2022, 15:35:36 »

Get the full spec from the glovebox manual, including the Renault oil type, and look online to match that.  With whatever is cheapest/convenient.


Never, ever use online lookup systems for oil, you will get the oil for a US variant.  As a load of eedjits on the Shag forum discovered when I told them ECP offered the wrong oil (and dont sell the correct one, as it happens), and all of them had clogged dpf's within 200 miiles.  ECP (and others) give the US spec oil for non dpf cars.
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Re: Oil thread !
« Reply #13 on: 15 January 2022, 15:37:59 »

I will be fitting a brand new, genuine Renault (Borg Warner actually) turbo (which I picked up £125 !!) and want to give it a good start in life by treating it to good quality oil.
Thanks Kevin for the advice I feel a bit more relaxed about it now.
However I have another question about the oil now. The Castrol Edge is C3 spec. According to the official Renault bumf I came across on the interweb last night the spec should be B4.
Is that also likely to have any detrimental effect in the real world ?
C3 sounds like the ash content, separate from the other specs.  If its non dpf, I suspect you dont care about ash...

As said, what is the Renault oil type for it?
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Re: Oil thread !
« Reply #14 on: 15 January 2022, 16:28:37 »

Dont have a glovebox handbook. Could have a look in the Haynes book of bollix I suppose.
Luckily, no DPF.
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« Reply #15 on: 15 January 2022, 16:37:09 »

Will be  fitting a new turbo on the French contraption in the next few days, so purchased new oil and filter from Eurocraprats.
As usual put the reg. number in and got a list of suitable oils.
The top two were 0w-30 spec. then below that 5w-30 and 5w- 40.
For reasons I now cant remember I chose the one at the top, which happened to be 0w - 30.
https://www.eurocarparts.com/p/castrol-edge-c3-engine-oil-0w-30-4ltr-521770991

Now Im sat at work bored,so have done a lot of checking online and everything I look at says the recommended spec is 5w - 30.
Will it make any significant difference ?  I assume its a bit thinner, and a bit concerned it wont be good enough for my new turbo.
Dont want to blow the bloody thing up again after spending yet more time and money on it.

What will this cost?

Is it financially viable on a 20 year old Frenchie?
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Re: Oil thread !
« Reply #16 on: 15 January 2022, 16:38:34 »

Just read reply 10.

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Re: Oil thread !
« Reply #17 on: 15 January 2022, 16:55:03 »

Hayne says = Multigrade oil SAE 5W-40 to 0w-40 (ACEA A3 / B4).
Im not a lot wiser tbh.  ;D

Doesnt seem to quite match with what Ive got.

https://www.eurocarparts.com/p/castrol-edge-c3-engine-oil-0w-30-4ltr-521770991

But does it matter ? Maybe the oil I have is a later tyoe of oil which will be better to use, or maybe its too far out of spec.
Havent a clue tbh.  ::)
Apparently it complies with Renault RN0700 / RN0710.  :-\
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Re: Oil thread !
« Reply #18 on: 15 January 2022, 16:58:06 »

It'll be fine. Especially as you don't have a DPF. :y
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« Reply #19 on: 15 January 2022, 18:09:04 »

Thats good enough for me. Thanks Kevin.  :y
PM me your address so I can send the bill when it blows up.  ;D
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Re: Oil thread !
« Reply #20 on: 15 January 2022, 18:18:10 »

Dont have a glovebox handbook. Could have a look in the Haynes book of bollix I suppose.
Luckily, no DPF.
Lable under the bonnet? Renault traditionally insist on ELF lubricants.
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Re: Oil thread !
« Reply #21 on: 15 January 2022, 20:43:58 »

Aint buying French oil !  >:( ;D
Will have a look out of curiousity, but will probably tip in what Ive got anyway.  :y
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Re: Oil thread !
« Reply #22 on: 16 January 2022, 10:54:31 »

Dont have a glovebox handbook. Could have a look in the Haynes book of bollix I suppose.
Luckily, no DPF.
Not a PDF online somewhere? Or a Clit Forum?

For example, the BBP glovebox manual states mine is:
Jaguar Landrover spec: STJLR.03.5005
Ford spec:WSS-M2C934-B

So I always ensure it meets either of those 2.  Then I need not worry about viscosity (as the spec says its 5w30), ash content (spec states C1), or API etc.


As mentioned earlier, EuroShite offer, based on my reg, a completely unsuitable oil https://www.eurocarparts.com/p/triple-qx-fully-syn-engine-oil-5w-30-ford-m2c-913d-5ltr-521776071
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Re: Oil thread !
« Reply #23 on: 16 January 2022, 11:07:48 »

Hayne says = Multigrade oil SAE 5W-40 to 0w-40 (ACEA A3 / B4).
Im not a lot wiser tbh.  ;D

Doesnt seem to quite match with what Ive got.

https://www.eurocarparts.com/p/castrol-edge-c3-engine-oil-0w-30-4ltr-521770991

But does it matter ? Maybe the oil I have is a later tyoe of oil which will be better to use, or maybe its too far out of spec.
Havent a clue tbh.  ::)
Apparently it complies with Renault RN0700 / RN0710.  :-\
Should be fine, if a little thin.  If you had a DPF, I'd be urging more caution.  The ACEA categories are in simplistic terms, A=petrol, B=diesel, C=Ash. There are others.

You ideally need to match A/B/C categories, as this categories cover all oil properties.
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Re: Oil thread !
« Reply #24 on: 16 January 2022, 14:32:30 »

Well its in the engine now so its job done.  :)
Just need my knackered spine and knee to ease off a bit and I can put the bits back on and fire it up.  ::)
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« Reply #25 on: 16 January 2022, 14:37:29 »

Well its in the engine now so its job done.  :)
Just need my knackered spine and knee to ease off a bit and I can put the bits back on   in and set fire to  it up::)
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Re: Oil thread !
« Reply #26 on: 16 January 2022, 14:59:13 »

This may help.
https://www.opieoils.co.uk/t-acea-car-engine-oils-specification-explained.aspx

As has been said previously in another topic, whilst different oils may appear to be the same viscosity, its also the API and the subsequent letters that matter to ensure the oil is actually correct for your particular engine.

I have looked on that site and am now a bit baffled.  I have used 10/40 semi synthetic, Vx 095599582, in all my Omegas, but that site does not mention that oil for my car.  Why? :o :o
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Re: Oil thread !
« Reply #27 on: 16 January 2022, 15:52:47 »

Both of our cars have the recommendation of what oil to use embossed on the oil filler cap , simple idea but saves a lot of head scratching.
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Re: Oil thread !
« Reply #28 on: 16 January 2022, 20:25:28 »

This may help.
https://www.opieoils.co.uk/t-acea-car-engine-oils-specification-explained.aspx

As has been said previously in another topic, whilst different oils may appear to be the same viscosity, its also the API and the subsequent letters that matter to ensure the oil is actually correct for your particular engine.

I have looked on that site and am now a bit baffled.  I have used 10/40 semi synthetic, Vx 095599582, in all my Omegas, but that site does not mention that oil for my car.  Why? :o :o

Lizzie,
The link details the following which is the same ACEA rating as the recommended VX 10/40 semi synthetic oil.

ACEA A3/B4
Stable, stay-in-grade oil intended for use in high performance petrol and direct injection diesel engines, but also suitable for applications described under A3/B3

The API ( American Petroleum Institute) ratings are outlined here - the VX 10/40 semi synthetic oil is CF/ SL

https://www.opieoils.co.uk/t-api-car-engine-oil-specifications-explained.aspx

Hope that helps understand the oil ratings.
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