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[Wayne]

Hi Chaps

Spent 3 hours with Syme today off this forum
He lives in Oxford and fixed my Omega for me
What a top bloke! very knowledgable and really made me appreciate my car again
and I've gained a friend should i start panicking and stressing again

turnt up to his at 11.30am, opened my bonnet, showed him the screeching type noise
1st suspicions were water pump, but turnt out to be the Alternator bearing tension wheel or whatever it is lol
He took an identical one off his old miggie and put it on mine, voila! Noise gone! Purring like a kitten now
also done oil change and filter after I'd bought some oil, well chuffed now!

He very kindly tried to fix the loss of heat problem and it's now become intermittent going hot and cold randomly..... so ive no idea what this trouble is
But the mechanic who bodged it last week BETTER bloody fix it!
i had heat and now I've got it when it feels like it

anyone on here know about the reasons to this type of symptom?

Overall a good day and I paid Syme for his time and effort, a damn site cheaper than a rip off garage

Next job is to buy his HID lamps off him and install em in my car

[amba]

Pleased to hear you have found somebody who understands these cars,and all about what OOF is about.

Get shot of your "trusted mechanic".Get the money you paid him for the work he now seems not to have done .and put your trust in this forum and its members.

[Wayne]

i agree!

I've already paid the "trusted tosser" the £349 and I'll let him sort it, otherwise i will be getting some of my money back..

Bearing in mind i did have new HT leads, spark plugs and genuine VX dis pack

£120 of my bill was for labour

[amba]

If he couldn,t fix it the first time,you may be heading for a whole lot more grief getting him under the bonnet again 

Tell him you will pay for the bits only he fitted at the price he paid ,not the list price he has charged you ,and a FUL refund of the labour.

Mention small claims court/trading standards about charging for sub standard work .He doesn,t seem to understand the workings of an Omega.

[Wayne]

The point is, he's cured my pinking of the engine, the EML light no longer comes on
It's just now I've got no heat, how could he have caused this by merely fitting HT Leads, spark plugs and a dis pack?

[dad1uk]

Just a thought, the heater is controlled by the HBV (Heater By-pass Valve) which is controlled by a small vacuum pipe. Has this been pulled off? May be worth a look because it's all in the same area as the Dis-pack.......

[RobG]

Just a thought, the heater is controlled by the HBV (Heater By-pass Valve) which is controlled by a small vacuum pipe. Has this been pulled off? May be worth a look because it's all in the same area as the Dis-pack.......

No vac = constant heat

[Gaffers]

Sounds like he may have damaged the vacuum pipes while doing the work, easily done by a brute.  With the engine on wiggle them about and listen for any sharp intake of air.  Repair or replace the damaged part and you should find it'll work all the time now 

Edit:  Scratch that if it would mean constant heat (are you sure?) I wonder if it is the sampling fan?

[Wayne]

My HBV was replaced just under 2 years ago, i think it was an aftermarket one
The heat comes on intermittently
If I press the 2 buttons to do that Reset thingy
(pressing the Auto and off at the same time)
i then lose the heat that's suddenly started working!
then I get the Coolish type air return again

it's driving me nuts not knowing exactly what the problem is

[RobG]

My HBV was replaced just under 2 years ago, i think it was an aftermarket one
The heat comes on intermittently
If I press the 2 buttons to do that Reset thingy
(pressing the Auto and off at the same time)
i then lose the heat that's suddenly started working!
then I get the Coolish type air return again

it's driving me nuts not knowing exactly what the problem is

Pull vac pipe from top of HBV and plug it, if you then have constant heat it`s a dodgy HBV

[symes]

wayne if ya man cant fix it you got my number mate 

[Wayne]

Thanks Syme

I think I'll be doing that very soon
Just took my missus back home and my car is absolutely flying!
It's never driven so good! mind you, it's bloody freezing with no heat
What are you up to next Sunday by chance?

thinking about the potential HBV problem
doesn't it obviously need all the vac pipes to be connected to the right ends?
there's loads of them ain't there?

[RobG]

2nd paragraph is a bit OTT Wayne. From my memory you`ve been offered plenty of help and advice during your membership here

http://omegaownersnetwork.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1299&sid=348ba35c0b846ad2933d197a2214c22a

[tunnie]

2nd paragraph is a bit OTT Wayne. From my memory you`ve been offered plenty of help and advice during your membership here

http://omegaownersnetwork.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1299&sid=348ba35c0b846ad2933d197a2214c22a

Yes he has had lots of offers and pages after pages of help 

Don't think that paragraph on that post was called for!

[Wayne]

i think it was, all I get is knocked on here
I'd rather pay someone off of a forum instead of undoing screws and bolts and completely rather things up

[Wayne]

Why is it all of ya are like "yeah.. Go on.. Have a go yourself, I'm a musician not a have a go type"

The vauxhall omega is a nightmare car to work on, just watching Syme yesterday do his thing yesterday was daunting enough, I've only ever done a coolant change!

[RobG]

i think it was, all I get is knocked on hereI'd rather pay someone off of a forum instead of undoing screws and bolts and completely rather things up

BANTER.

Noun: The playful and friendly exchange of teasing remarks.
 
 
Verb: Talk or exchange remarks in a good-humored teasing way

Need I say more

[Lazydocker]

Why is it all of ya are like "yeah.. Go on.. Have a go yourself, I'm a musician not a have a go type"

The vauxhall omega is a nightmare car to work on, just watching Syme yesterday do his thing yesterday was daunting enough, I've only ever done a coolant change!

TBH Wayne, you have had many offers of help in the past and even been told that what you think are problems are not. The recent water pump squeal which turned out to be the Aux Belt Tensioner (which I and others suggested without even seeing it) being a good example of you panicking and jumping in at the deep end

Whilst the OOF spirit is all about helping people we can't always drop everything and do it straight away

The heater issue: Sounds like it may well be an air lock. It's quite possible that your mechanic decided to disconnect coolant hoses during his work You say you've done a coolant change in the past so I would suggest you bleed the cooling system properly, as you will have done then, and see if it improves. Also, disconnect and plug the vac line to the HBV temporarily to see if you get heat. It's not complicated and you don't have to undo any screws That will prove the HBV faulty or not. I wouldn't be at all surprised if a pattern HBV has gone faulty after 2 years

[Wayne]

Okay, my only concern was actually getting to the HBV itself,
Isn't there like remove this, undo that etc etc
So by removing the offending vac pipe from the top of the HBV, I'll get heat?
if I have to leave it off permanently, does this effect the performance of the car in different ways

[Lazydocker]

Okay, my only concern was actually getting to the HBV itself,
Isn't there like remove this, undo that etc etc
So by removing the offending vac pipe from the top of the HBV, I'll get heat?
if I have to leave it off permanently, does this effect the performance of the car in different ways

It's a bit tight but you can get to the vac pipe (the little one on the top) without removing anything

You must block this off though otherwise it will cause running problems.

If doing this gets you heat it means that the vac control on the HBV has failed. It could be the HBV, could be elsewhere but it might get you heat  IIRC the vac pipes from the climate unit come through into the engine bay on the passenger side and run across where your mechanic has been working, so it could be that he's disturbed them accidentally

[Wayne]

had to pop out, bearing in mind the heater was running cold earlier, it's been stood for 3 hours
Turnt the heating on and I've now got heat!! lol

I'll be having a go at taking that pipe off the top of the HBV tomorrow hopefully
I've noticed after getting heat, if you press AUTO and OFF to do the climate control Reset
The heat then disappears and your stuck back with cold air again

does that shed anymore light on things?

[TheBoy]

Wayne - is this the same car you had around 3yrs ago? If so, did you ever sort out the vac issue behind the glovebox we discovered but it was too late in day to start diagnosing?

(If I've got the wrong car or wrong person, my apologies - I see a lot of people, and have a poor memory  )

[Wayne]

i think YES is the answer, same car mate,  but it's been so long what actually was the diagnosed Vac fault? I've got a memory like a Goldfish

[symes]

hi mate honestly you can get to hbv to remove vac pipe without any tools just look on here or in ya manual to see what ya after got diagrams of vac lines on here too did say to you that squeal you had was pulley or water pump-mine was pump but bought estate so kept pump which will have to be done before engine goes in ford.

[Wayne]

Diagrams of Vac lines!! awesome! Where?
Can an idiot like me understand em

Don't anybody answer that!! grrrrrrrr

I'm just amazed the heats returned all of a sudden

[symes]

you could simply have had an airlock mate- unless big bang lots of smoke-DONT PANIC!!!!

[Lazydocker]

I'm just amazed the heats returned all of a sudden

Thinking back a few years, weren't the symptoms the same then

The glovebox needs hoiking out and the problem sorting properly if that's the case

But.... See what happens with the vac pipe off and plugged first

[Wayne]

Thankyou people :-)

[TheBoy]

i think YES is the answer, same car mate,  but it's been so long what actually was the diagnosed Vac fault? I've got a memory like a Goldfish

OK, if its the same car - a gold/light coloured estate, the glovebox needs to come out to diagnose further.

I am more than willing to help with this, but due to my recent accident, am not currently mobile enough to do this for a couple of weeks.

In meantime, pull the vac pipe off the HBV, and bung the vac pipe with a suitable bung.  HBV is in a tight location behind the driver's side bank of cylinders. It looks a bit like Starship Enterprise.

[symes]

can trace vacs weekend for you if you want mate the ones behind glove box can be fun-need to be a contortionist  P.S got lights ready for you too

[omega3000]

Starship enterprise    HBV "heater bypass valve"

[Wayne]

Thanks everybody, I'll now shut the hell up and would appreciate all of your helps :-)

[Lazydocker]

The vac pipe is attached to the little pipe on top (behind the thumb in the picture) and you need to plug the end of the pipe you pull off

[Wayne]

The Boy - didn't know you had an accident?
What did you do, hope your ok dude

[Wayne]

By plugging the pipe you mention, does the car still perform as good?

[dbug]

By plugging the pipe you mention, does the car still perform as good?

Thats why you need to plug the pipe 

[Wayne]

Doh!! ok ok lol

use strong black gaffa tape?

[henryd]

Doh!! ok ok lol

use strong black gaffa tape?

Just pull the pipe from the HBV and stick a small bolt in the pipe to preserve the vacumn