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« on: 15 January 2016, 21:56:36 »
someone needs to raid nitros shed...he'll have a few spares knocking around
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I'm not saying they should be treated like hotel guests but, if you take the time to read the article in full, the issue isn't use of force. It is use of unnecessary force.
In. Other words, bullying.
Bullying anyone is unacceptable, especially a minor.
Perhaps treated differently some might not reoffend... It's a self-perpetuating machine.
bullying is unacepttable but dont forget we are not dealing with a normal chidren/young people , these guys are out of control and some times physical contact is the only way to deal with them , as for them not reoffending hm you would like to think so but unlikely, having spent sometime working with some of these guys its a thankless task
So... You agree that bullying is unacceptable. But seem from your postings to defend, even condone the acts of unnecessary force and bullying that the undercover investigation has highlightedQuoteAmong the allegations uncovered by Panorama and now subject to investigation are that Medway staff:
Slapped a teenager several times in the head
Pressed heavily on the necks of young people
Used restraint techniques unnecessarily - and that included squeezing a teenager's windpipe so he had problems breathing
Used foul language to frighten and intimidate - and boasted of mistreating young people, including using a fork to stab one on the leg and making another cry uncontrollably
Tried to conceal their behaviour by ensuring they were beneath CCTV cameras or in areas not covered by them
None of these are acceptable behaviour from a guard. And before you criticise me, I know several prison guards, including 2 who have had the pleasure of working Broadmoor and the lovely inmates there who are more than happy to stab each other with felt tip pens! I can guarantee they would be embarrassed to be counted amongst the same profession as these animals who take pleasure in bullying minors because it makes them feel big!
I'm not saying they should be treated like hotel guests but, if you take the time to read the article in full, the issue isn't use of force. It is use of unnecessary force.
In. Other words, bullying.
Bullying anyone is unacceptable, especially a minor.
Perhaps treated differently some might not reoffend... It's a self-perpetuating machine.
I did wonder where Borstal actually was.There is another prison at Boarstall near Bicester & I wondered if the spelling had morphed over time.It isn't really a prison is it? more like Borstal or a home for naughty boys.
It's actually Borstal, where the term comes from. Borstal being a suburb of Rochester where there are a couple of prisons.
Having been a reasonably regular visitor to the local young offenders, in my experience, these people cannot be reasoned with. They are out of control, and uncontrollable without physical restraint/punishment.
They will reoffend, no matter how they are treated. They will be nothing but a menace and a burden.
Admittedly, young offenders is probably at a slightly older age range than that that's made the news in Kent.
Or how about
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181974651414?clk_rvr_id=959809975629&rmvSB=true
What a heap of sh1t
Ha........ha.........hap.........happy Christmas. There, I said it.