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Re: strange goings on !
« Reply #60 on: 11 December 2020, 16:47:19 »

thanks nick ,that looks pretty usefull.

right. after half an hour its dropped to 20ma. however i opened the door,interior light came on and took 1 minute to go off. now its working again back to around 10 seconds.
this is getting confusing. !
thats it for today. tommorow i will unplug the c/l unit and see what happens
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Re: strange goings on !
« Reply #61 on: 11 December 2020, 16:52:38 »

what i will do first is plug camera into the cig socket and observe the current again. i will check if the drop is after the consumer relay times out but i thought it was sooner than nearly an hour !
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Re: strange goings on !
« Reply #62 on: 11 December 2020, 17:08:46 »

That could be your problem then. Not sure how the consumer relay works, but it should be around ten minutes...

Re the camera, which socket do you use for it?
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Re: strange goings on !
« Reply #63 on: 11 December 2020, 17:21:51 »

the camera is plugged into the rear outlet at the moment. used to switch off after around 10- 15 mins.
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Re: strange goings on !
« Reply #64 on: 11 December 2020, 17:42:22 »

the camera is plugged into the rear outlet at the moment. used to switch off after around 10- 15 mins.
That's what I thought. The front socket is NOT fed via FV5... The rear one is fed from FV5 via the consumer relay.

If that's no longer shutting off within 15 minutes then that won't help.
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« Reply #65 on: 11 December 2020, 17:46:40 »

camera is not plugged in at night so that wasnt the issue with the other night or with the interior light but i will do as you say and check tommorow if it does switch off after the time it should.
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« Reply #66 on: 14 December 2020, 15:40:30 »

gotya !
started at the lights buzzer and with the markings on it worked out that the blue wire in terminal 31b was the one to follow.it was low to earth .
followed it across to the passenger side where it plugs into the multi plug and then it terminates and splits into 4 other wires. i snipped them all and found the single offending wire.reconnected the remaining ones back up and voila ,no buzzer when there shouldnt be and interior light working as it should and deadlocking working.
the offending ( disconnected)blue wire comes all the way back across to the drivers side door connector plug.removed plug and found traces of water inside. cleaned out and the earth fault on that wire is gone.
am going to leave it disconnected for now as everything seems to be working fine so it could be a return from the microswitch and check its still clear to earth in a few days.
only fault now is airbag light because i foolishly turned on the ignition with the big passenger side multi plugs disconnected. just going to get it reset at garage later .
thanks for eveyones suggestions and help.
got there in the end. and all made perfect sense realy.
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Re: strange goings on !
« Reply #67 on: 14 December 2020, 15:42:30 »

Wiring is such fun...  :D

Pays to be thorough, and patient :y
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« Reply #68 on: 14 December 2020, 15:45:30 »

it made sense to be damp as it happened on our first snow day last thurs.
the door connectors arnt the easiest to remove and refit thou !
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« Reply #69 on: 14 December 2020, 15:49:30 »

Not with the door and dash fitted they're not  ;D
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Re: strange goings on !
« Reply #70 on: 14 December 2020, 16:10:08 »

gotya !
started at the lights buzzer and with the markings on it worked out that the blue wire in terminal 31b was the one to follow.it was low to earth .
followed it across to the passenger side where it plugs into the multi plug and then it terminates and splits into 4 other wires. i snipped them all and found the single offending wire.reconnected the remaining ones back up and voila ,no buzzer when there shouldnt be and interior light working as it should and deadlocking working.
the offending ( disconnected)blue wire comes all the way back across to the drivers side door connector plug.removed plug and found traces of water inside. cleaned out and the earth fault on that wire is gone.
am going to leave it disconnected for now as everything seems to be working fine so it could be a return from the microswitch and check its still clear to earth in a few days.
only fault now is airbag light because i foolishly turned on the ignition with the big passenger side multi plugs disconnected. just going to get it reset at garage later .
thanks for eveyones suggestions and help.
got there in the end. and all made perfect sense realy.
Well done, young man  :y
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Re: strange goings on !
« Reply #71 on: 14 December 2020, 16:54:43 »

thankyou although not many would say young any more !


just curious now what the blue wire does( or did) and wether it makes not much difference ?
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Re: strange goings on !
« Reply #72 on: 14 December 2020, 19:08:50 »

thankyou although not many would say young any more !


just curious now what the blue wire does( or did) and wether it makes not much difference ?
Apparently, it connects Pin2 of the drivers door contact switch to the consumer relay (via Pin 62 of the big plug on the passenger a post), the warning buzzer, electric windows and the central locking...

It starts at the driver door contact Pin2... To...

1a. Consumer relay via X1Pin62
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   2a. Central locking/alarm ecu Pin15
   2b. Driver window switch Pin21, via X11Pin29(door plug)
   2c. Seat/mirror memory ecu Pin7 X46, via Pin5 X50 (seat harness)
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Re: strange goings on !
« Reply #73 on: 14 December 2020, 19:15:08 »

hi thanks doc.yep il agree with that.i found that  blue wire in those locations and all joined together in the loom just above the passenger side big connector.
that was the wire that was triggering the alarm,bringing on the interior light and making the buzzer do strange things.
il leave it disconnected for now cos i havnt found anything that doesnt seem to work yet. !
what i may do at the weekend is have a look inside the door and see where it goes and if its wet !
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« Reply #74 on: 14 December 2020, 19:22:23 »

You might have got lucky and cut the wire between the seat memory ecu and window(mirror) switch ;)
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