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Title: Golf GTD
Post by: STEMO on 03 May 2021, 18:45:03
Been looking at these as a replacement for wifey's astra later this year. Can't believe the price of a three year old, automatic one, very expensive car.
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 03 May 2021, 20:57:09
Possibly the most pointless car of all time, the harshness of a GTi ride with a soot chucker under the bonnet
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: Varche on 03 May 2021, 21:12:00
Non gti handles and rides well. I love my 2.0 diesel and auto.  Just done 520 km today on mixed roads.. why not have another Astra Zeneca?
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: STEMO on 03 May 2021, 22:02:57
Non gti handles and rides well. I love my 2.0 diesel and auto.  Just done 520 km today on mixed roads.. why not have another Astra Zeneca?
No point, might as well keep this one as get another. They've stopped doing anything with a decent diesel now.
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: Viral_Jim on 03 May 2021, 22:09:15
One of my team had one, he gave me a ride in it once, and only once. Thankfully he swapped it not long after for a w212 diesel, which was much better to be a passenger in.

It just isn't fast enough to justify that level of discomfort. If you really must have that engine and box combo, I would have the Octavia vrs, or the superb.

If not, a non-GTD diesel golf would be better in almost every respect.  :D
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: STEMO on 03 May 2021, 22:11:14
Possibly the most pointless car of all time, the harshness of a GTi ride with a soot chucker under the bonnet
Soot chucker is the whole point. 55mpg and 0-60 in 7.2s. But plenty of time to consider yet, her astra has another 8 months on the Vx warranty I took out.
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 03 May 2021, 22:11:49
Seat Leon as a cheaper alternative.

Or an Merc CLA...
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: STEMO on 03 May 2021, 22:12:31
Seat Leon as a cheaper alternative.
Yes, but she doesn't like the seat Leon  ;D
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 03 May 2021, 22:13:37
Seat Leon as a cheaper alternative.
Yes, but she doesn't like the seat Leon  ;D
It's basically a Golf :-X
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: STEMO on 03 May 2021, 22:13:53
One of my team had one, he gave me a ride in it once, and only once. Thankfully he swapped it not long after for a w212 diesel, which was much better to be a passenger in.

It just isn't fast enough to justify that level of discomfort. If you really must have that engine and box combo, I would have the Octavia vrs, or the superb.

If not, a non-GTD diesel golf would be better in almost every respect.  :D
Hmmmm....but, performance wise, she might as well keep her astra.
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: STEMO on 03 May 2021, 22:14:25
Seat Leon as a cheaper alternative.
Yes, but she doesn't like the seat Leon  ;D
It's basically a Golf :-X
Does it look like a golf? Are you a woman?  ::)
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 03 May 2021, 22:15:02
Lift up the skirts and play spot the difference.  ;D

Mechanically and structurally identical.
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: STEMO on 03 May 2021, 22:15:40
Lift up the skirts and play spot the difference.  ;D
It's the skirts that most interest women.
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: STEMO on 03 May 2021, 22:16:48
Anyhow, it's a while away yet. I'll sit her in one, and then it's up to her.
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: STEMO on 03 May 2021, 22:19:03
So far...A class, shite.....Golf GTD, shite  ;D
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: Viral_Jim on 03 May 2021, 22:19:59
Hmmmm....but, performance wise, she might as well keep her astra.

Octavia has 95% of the performance and 100% more comfort. But then I'm not female, so I can't appreciate the aesthetics.

Alternatively, maybe take the astra to a young man with his hat on backwards who will give it GTD levels of poke.
https://www.courtenaysport.co.uk/Courtenay-Sport-Stage1-AstraJ-A20DTH (https://www.courtenaysport.co.uk/Courtenay-Sport-Stage1-AstraJ-A20DTH)   8)
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 03 May 2021, 22:23:09
Neighbour is happy with his '11 chipped Octavia VRS but it's a pig to work on thanks to VWs ridiculous design team.
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: STEMO on 03 May 2021, 22:24:32
Hmmmm....but, performance wise, she might as well keep her astra.

Octavia has 95% of the performance and 100% more comfort. But then I'm not female, so I can't appreciate the aesthetics.

Alternatively, maybe take the astra to a young man with his hat on backwards who will give it GTD levels of poke.
https://www.courtenaysport.co.uk/Courtenay-Sport-Stage1-AstraJ-A20DTH (https://www.courtenaysport.co.uk/Courtenay-Sport-Stage1-AstraJ-A20DTH)   8)
Hers is the K with 1.6 135 bhp engine, but you're missing the female point here. Astra is 66 plate, therefore, old now. Golf looks nice, esp that one with GTD written on the front.  ;D
I mean, your missus insisted on a picanto  ;D
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: Rangie on 03 May 2021, 22:27:22
Women are scary when it comes to cars, my missus keeps on about how pretty Toyota Aygos are I'd sooner keep the old faithful Scooby ,but she may get her way.
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: STEMO on 03 May 2021, 22:27:27
I will do everything in my power to avoid paying close to £20,000 for a diesel golf, but once a girlie has her heart set..... :-X
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: STEMO on 03 May 2021, 22:32:07
I told her she could have a nice jag for that money. She said they were horrible. Now can you see what I'm up against?
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 03 May 2021, 22:32:46
Swmbo says I should get rid of all three of mine and buy a nice little Mini Metro, which to her is the more modern version of the 1964 Mini she had as her first car.  ;D
When I mentioned they stopped making them nearly 30 years ago she looked at me like Im some sort of remedial.  ::)


No need for comments from the back STEMO.  :P
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: STEMO on 03 May 2021, 22:33:32
Swmbo says I should get rid of all three of mine and buy a nice little Mini Metro, which to her is the more modern version of the 1964 Mini she had as her first car.  ;D
When I mentioned they stopped making them nearly 30 years ago she looked at me like Im some sort of remedial.  ::)


No need for comments from the back STEMO.  :P
As if......... ;D
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 03 May 2021, 22:34:07
Might as well get her what she wants. If she likes it she will be happy she made the right choice. If she hates it it will be your fault for making her get that bloody car.  ;D
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: Rangie on 03 May 2021, 22:35:26
My missus keeps telling me that I should have never sold her Fiat Panda ( I hated it.)
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: STEMO on 03 May 2021, 22:37:54
The only thing that could sway it for me is reliability. I'm not saying the golf is not reliable but, if I don't fight her on it (she'll really dig her heels in then) but mention the most important thing is her getting to work (she loves that job with a passion) and I'm not really sure...I've heard some stories...it's up to her, of course...... ::)
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: STEMO on 03 May 2021, 22:39:08
My missus keeps telling me that I should have never sold her Fiat Panda ( I hated it.)
If she liked it... :-\
I'd let her drive her astra for another ten years, if I could get away with it.
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: STEMO on 03 May 2021, 22:40:47
I'll have to hatch a plan..plenty of time  :)
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: Rangie on 03 May 2021, 22:42:44
How about a BMW Steve are they an alternative ?
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 04 May 2021, 07:45:07
Possibly the most pointless car of all time, the harshness of a GTi ride with a soot chucker under the bonnet
Soot chucker is the whole point. 55mpg and 0-60 in 7.2s. But plenty of time to consider yet, her astra has another 8 months on the Vx warranty I took out.

Exactly, slow and harsh, if diesel is the need then avoid the GT spec and getting something that's not gong to shake every bone in the body
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: countrywoman on 04 May 2021, 10:14:23
MMMMMM I have a Skoda Yeti that is underneath a Golf 4 wheel drive with a 170 HP diesel , its not slow as it ran a 15.2 sec on the drag strip . Yes it will do 60 mpg but only if I get stuck behind some slow ******* , normally 45 but I dont drive slow!!
  Daughter has a Golf GTD and she loves it but then she drives like me---- (both ex drag racers) . And before you make comments the Yeti is butt ugly but so practical .
From my experience is no worse to work on than the modern Ashtray and I never found them nice to drive. Vague speedo markings as well , we had a Astra diesel run about at work thats 3 years old now and the sat nav/ display screen blew up twice. 
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: STEMO on 04 May 2021, 11:32:46
How about a BMW Steve are they an alternative ?
Yes, Mick, gonna try and point her towards a 320d  :y



Or.....take her to a car supermarket and let her browse. You never know, she might just fancy a 12 grand Citroen or something  ;D Anything to keep the price down  ::)
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 04 May 2021, 11:48:00
She works hard. Let her buy what she wants. As my old Mum used to say "theres no pockets in shrouds". :)
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: STEMO on 04 May 2021, 11:51:52
She works hard. Let her buy what she wants. As my old Mum used to say "theres no pockets in shrouds". :)
You're right, of course, Albs  :y
Just had a thought about the 320d. RWD, that would keep her on her toes  ;D
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: Rangie on 04 May 2021, 11:54:38
She works hard. Let her buy what she wants. As my old Mum used to say "theres no pockets in shrouds". :)
You're right, of course, Albs  :y
Just had a thought about the 320d. RWD, that would keep her on her toes  ;D
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Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 04 May 2021, 12:41:17
In normal everyday driving, rwd / fwd doesnt make any difference in reality to the average person.
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: STEMO on 04 May 2021, 12:42:29
In normal everyday driving, rwd / fwd doesnt make any difference in reality to the average person.
Sheffield is built on seven hills, and it snows a lot.  ;D
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 04 May 2021, 12:44:11
Might be some fun in winter time then.  :y ;D
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: STEMO on 04 May 2021, 12:46:16
Might be some fun in winter time then.  :y ;D
One of her teachers lived at the bottom of a hill. She bought a BMW1 and had to walk up the hill and get a bus from December to February.  ;D
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 04 May 2021, 12:56:44
Might be some fun in winter time then.  :y ;D
One of her teachers lived at the bottom of a hill. She bought a BMW1 and had to walk up the hill and get a bus from December to February.  ;D

Not a problem on the latest model as its front wheel drive (its a Mini in drag)
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: STEMO on 04 May 2021, 13:06:15
Might be some fun in winter time then.  :y ;D
One of her teachers lived at the bottom of a hill. She bought a BMW1 and had to walk up the hill and get a bus from December to February.  ;D

Not a problem on the latest model as its front wheel drive (its a Mini in drag)
What year did that happen? It won't be a new one, we don't do new.
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: STEMO on 04 May 2021, 13:10:10
It says on t'internet only 1 and 2 have FWD  :-\

https://www.carbuyer.co.uk/bmw/3-series/engines
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: STEMO on 04 May 2021, 13:11:39
Ah...I see. You were talking about teachers 1 series  :y
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 04 May 2021, 13:21:31
Why not go  for a petrol turbo rather than this turbo derv crap?.

Diesels have gone form saving the planet 10 years ago to killing the planet today.

Personally speaking I'd  only go the derv route if the car could be bought for buttons.

If you like the Golf go for the Golf R.......about £300 PCM on a PCP deal*

* In addition to a large deposit. :D 8)
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: omegod on 04 May 2021, 13:23:58
Looking for something for Mrs O currently, looks like it's going to be a Seat Ateca 2.0 tdi and possibly the 4wd version. We had a 1.0 petrol one on lease a few years back which was great but I don't trust the longevity of the little 3 cylinder turbo engines.

 
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: STEMO on 04 May 2021, 13:26:45
Why not go  for a petrol turbo rather than this turbo derv crap?.

Diesels have gone form saving the planet 10 years ago to killing the planet today.

Personally speaking I'd  only go the derv route if the car could be bought for buttons.

If you like the Golf go for the Golf R.......about £300 PCM on a PCP deal*

* In addition to a large deposit. :D 8)
Over the course of a year, it will save around £500 in fuel bills. The performance of the diesel is often better than the petrol., and they are a strong engine. In my opinion, of course.
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 04 May 2021, 13:27:59
Might be some fun in winter time then.  :y ;D
One of her teachers lived at the bottom of a hill. She bought a BMW1 and had to walk up the hill and get a bus from December to February.  ;D

Not a problem on the latest model as its front wheel drive (its a Mini in drag)

Speaking of the Mini. I followed a Mini Countryman the other day. That is one ugly f*ucker..... :( :(

Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: STEMO on 04 May 2021, 13:28:17
Anyway, I'm off to take doggie for a walk, in my diesel astra, travelling at 28mph.  ;D
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: STEMO on 04 May 2021, 13:29:12
Might be some fun in winter time then.  :y ;D
One of her teachers lived at the bottom of a hill. She bought a BMW1 and had to walk up the hill and get a bus from December to February.  ;D

Not a problem on the latest model as its front wheel drive (its a Mini in drag)

Speaking of the Mini. I followed a Mini Countryman the other day. That is one ugly f*ucker..... :( :(
If you are part of a certain group, you simply have to own one. It's the law.
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: STEMO on 04 May 2021, 13:29:53
Looking for something for Mrs O currently, looks like it's going to be a Seat Ateca 2.0 tdi and possibly the 4wd version. We had a 1.0 petrol one on lease a few years back which was great but I don't trust the longevity of the little 3 cylinder turbo engines.

 
Good choice, Jon, take no notice of moneybags  ;D
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 04 May 2021, 13:30:27
Why not go  for a petrol turbo rather than this turbo derv crap?.

Diesels have gone form saving the planet 10 years ago to killing the planet today.

Personally speaking I'd  only go the derv route if the car could be bought for buttons.

If you like the Golf go for the Golf R.......about £300 PCM on a PCP deal*

* In addition to a large deposit. :D 8)
Over the course of a year, it will save around £500 in fuel bills. The performance of the diesel is often better than the petrol., and they are a strong engine. In my opinion, of course.

A mere bagatelle for a man of your means and wealth. :)
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: Rangie on 04 May 2021, 13:45:27
Anyway, I'm off to take doggie for a walk, in my diesel astra, travelling at 28mph.  ;D
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Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: henryd on 05 May 2021, 10:03:57
She works hard. Let her buy what she wants. As my old Mum used to say "theres no pockets in shrouds". :)
You're right, of course, Albs  :y
Just had a thought about the 320d. RWD, that would keep her on her toes  ;D

Lack of compliant suspension though, much like the Gtd
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: Kevin Wood on 05 May 2021, 16:25:28
Might be some fun in winter time then.  :y ;D
One of her teachers lived at the bottom of a hill. She bought a BMW1 and had to walk up the hill and get a bus from December to February.  ;D

Not a problem on the latest model as its front wheel drive (its a Mini in drag)

Speaking of the Mini. I followed a Mini Countryman the other day. That is one ugly f*ucker..... :( :(
If you are part of a certain group, you simply have to own one. It's the law.

Self-centred female snowflake, you mean? Yes, I've noticed that too. ;)
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: STEMO on 05 May 2021, 16:37:22
She works hard. Let her buy what she wants. As my old Mum used to say "theres no pockets in shrouds". :)
You're right, of course, Albs  :y
Just had a thought about the 320d. RWD, that would keep her on her toes  ;D

Lack of compliant suspension though, much like the Gtd
I've given myself a headache thinking about it, Enery, so I think I'll just ignore the whole thing until I can't ignore it any longer  ;D
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 05 May 2021, 16:47:45
Might be some fun in winter time then.  :y ;D
One of her teachers lived at the bottom of a hill. She bought a BMW1 and had to walk up the hill and get a bus from December to February.  ;D

Not a problem on the latest model as its front wheel drive (its a Mini in drag)

Speaking of the Mini. I followed a Mini Countryman the other day. That is one ugly f*ucker..... :( :(
If you are part of a certain group, you simply have to own one. It's the law.

Self-centred female snowflake, you mean? Yes, I've noticed that too. ;)
My SIL has a coupe one, neither self centered nor a Snowflake  ;D
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: STEMO on 05 May 2021, 17:09:43
Might be some fun in winter time then.  :y ;D
One of her teachers lived at the bottom of a hill. She bought a BMW1 and had to walk up the hill and get a bus from December to February.  ;D

Not a problem on the latest model as its front wheel drive (its a Mini in drag)

Speaking of the Mini. I followed a Mini Countryman the other day. That is one ugly f*ucker..... :( :(
If you are part of a certain group, you simply have to own one. It's the law.

Self-centred female snowflake, you mean? Yes, I've noticed that too. ;)
My SIL has a coupe one, neither self centered nor a Snowflake  ;D
Don't think I've ever seen a countryman coupe  :-\
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 05 May 2021, 18:00:12
Bini ;D
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 05 May 2021, 19:01:08
I was led to believe the new wonder car from 1959 was named 'Mini'  because of it's compact size.

The 2021 Mini Countryman is the size of an ocean going liner. ::)

I've got an idea.....they could rename the larger Mini, ...... 'Maxi'.......pretty sure that name has never been used before. ::) ::)
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Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: STEMO on 05 May 2021, 19:23:07
I was led to believe the new wonder car from 1959 was named 'Mini'  because of it's compact size.

The 2021 Mini Countryman is the size of an ocean going liner. ::)

I've got an idea.....they could rename the larger Mini, ...... 'Maxi'.......pretty sure that name has never been used before. ::) ::)
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Yes. Most other models are growing in size too, but the mini is definitely on better steroids.
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: TheBoy on 06 May 2021, 18:02:30
thanks to VWs ridiculous design team.
I don't normally stick up for VAG, as, lets face it, they make utter shite thats blingy enough to be desirable by idiots.  However, in fairness to VW, at least they do have design teams, unlike you beloved Mercedes "lets pick random items from the bilstein catalogue and see if that works" Benz.
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: TheBoy on 06 May 2021, 18:04:34
A colleague has a Cooper S, and was most put out when a lumbering old big saloon left him for dust in a straight line, after saying how it was the fastest thing on 4 wheels.

He's bent, obviously.

My neighbour has one as well, but she's a girl, so thats fine.
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: STEMO on 06 May 2021, 18:18:58
thanks to VWs ridiculous design team.
I don't normally stick up for VAG, as, lets face it, they make utter shite thats blingy enough to be desirable by idiots.  However, in fairness to VW, at least they do have design teams, unlike you beloved Mercedes "lets pick random items from the bilstein catalogue and see if that works" Benz.
She was casting her eyes over parts bin specials yesterday  ;D
I didn't try to put her off, she's got time to change her mind hundreds of times yet.

What's Mrs TB getting...........eventually?
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: TheBoy on 06 May 2021, 19:20:06
What's Mrs TB getting...
Angry ;D
Title: Re: Golf GTD
Post by: TheBoy on 06 May 2021, 19:20:36
Mind you, so would I if I had to drive that regularly ;D