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Re: Insignia Cdti,
« Reply #15 on: 20 August 2023, 11:48:14 »

One of my colleagues has an Insignia the same age and mileage as my jag.  I reckon he has a major "standing by the roadside"  breakdown about every 6 weeks. Vauxhakls clearly aren't what they were.
Neither Vauxhall nor Jaguar are high in the rankings

Reliability by brand for cars up to five years old
Rank   Brand   Score
1.   Lexus    98.4%
2.   Toyota   97.2%
=3.   Mini    97.0%
=3.   Mitsubishi   97.0%
=5.   Hyundai   95.8%
=5.   Suzuki   95.8%
7.   Kia   95.5%
8.   Mazda   95.2%
9.   MG   95.0%
10.   Dacia   94.4%
11.   Citroen    94.1%
12.   Honda   93.9%
13.   Skoda   93.8%
14.   Subaru   93.7%
15.   Seat   93.6%
16.   BMW   93.4%
17.   Volvo   92.9%
18.   Renault   92.5%
=19.   Porsche   91.6%
=19.   Tesla   91.6%
21.   Audi   91.1%
22.   Volkswagen    90.2%
=23.   Mercedes   89.5%
=23.   Vauxhall   89.5%
25.   Nissan    89.3%
26.   Jaguar   88.7%
27.   Ford   87.8%
28.   Peugeot   87.4%
29.   Alfa Romeo   87.3%
30.   Fiat   86.4%
31.   Land Rover   81.4%
32.   Jeep   77.0%

That's from 2022, btw
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Re: Insignia Cdti,
« Reply #16 on: 20 August 2023, 11:54:00 »

Having said that, my last 5 cars have been Vauxhalls (Meriva, Astra H, Zafira B, Astra J, Astra K) and I've never had a major problem with any of them. Omega well before those five, which I did have problems with. Obviously never owned a Jag, so can't comment.
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Re: Insignia Cdti,
« Reply #17 on: 20 August 2023, 12:08:24 »

Had 7 from that list over the last 10 years, and haven't broken down in any of them ,I just get them serviced properly & don't " tinker" with them myself.
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Re: Insignia Cdti,
« Reply #18 on: 20 August 2023, 12:31:44 »

Had 7 from that list over the last 10 years, and haven't broken down in any of them ,I just get them serviced properly & don't " tinker" with them myself.
Same here, Mick. I don't want to risk breaking a fingernail  :)
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Re: Insignia Cdti,
« Reply #19 on: 20 August 2023, 12:34:28 »

Had 7 from that list over the last 10 years, and haven't broken down in any of them ,I just get them serviced properly & don't " tinker" with them myself.
Same here, Mick. I don't want to risk breaking a fingernail  :)
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Re: Insignia Cdti,
« Reply #20 on: 20 August 2023, 15:03:27 »

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Re: Insignia Cdti,
« Reply #21 on: 20 August 2023, 18:36:31 »

What's the auto box like in the Insignificant?
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Re: Insignia Cdti,
« Reply #22 on: 20 August 2023, 19:03:34 »

I've had my ML now for over 4 years & other than yearly servicing & tyres, I've not had to spend a penny on it ....  8)
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Re: Insignia Cdti,
« Reply #23 on: 20 August 2023, 20:57:56 »

I had my auto 2.0 CDti Insignia Elite saloon for 5 years with no problem apart from one faulty glowplug. Comfortable to drive, good economy, but not exciting.
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Re: Insignia Cdti,
« Reply #24 on: 21 August 2023, 07:57:53 »

The 6 speed manual is what finishes off most.  If you catch the bearing wear early enough, it's a £400 repair.  If you don't, it's a replacement box, which most places won't do, as all the 2nd hand boxes are semi shagged.

Plenty of info out there how to prove if wear is back on the gearbox - just search for 'M32 gearbox bearing' or similar

Insignia did not use the M32 (which was fully fixed as of around 2012), it had the F40 as the 2.0 CDTi had more then 320Nm of torque.

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Re: Insignia Cdti,
« Reply #25 on: 21 August 2023, 10:16:57 »

Lexus / Toyota is to be expected really. They have long had a reputation for reliability. Bit Mini in joint third ? ! Do me a favour.  ;D
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Re: Insignia Cdti,
« Reply #26 on: 21 August 2023, 10:18:50 »

Lexus / Toyota is to be expected really. They have long had a reputation for reliability. Bit Mini in joint third ? ! Do me a favour.  ;D

I can't decide if those tables reflect the reliability of the cars or the expectations of those who typically purchase them!
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Re: Insignia Cdti,
« Reply #27 on: 21 August 2023, 11:07:47 »

What's the auto box like in the Insignificant?
Can't be any worse than the one in the Vectrum ;D
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Re: Insignia Cdti,
« Reply #28 on: 21 August 2023, 11:13:50 »

The 6 speed manual is what finishes off most.  If you catch the bearing wear early enough, it's a £400 repair.  If you don't, it's a replacement box, which most places won't do, as all the 2nd hand boxes are semi shagged.

Plenty of info out there how to prove if wear is back on the gearbox - just search for 'M32 gearbox bearing' or similar

Insignia did not use the M32 (which was fully fixed as of around 2012), it had the F40 as the 2.0 CDTi had more then 320Nm of torque.
Well, if that transportr was anything to go by, the F40 aint much coop either ;D

The M32 fix with larger (IIRC) bearings isn't a permanent fix, it just prolongs the inevitable.  I looked at loads of ZAF-Bs with the newer designed gearbox ends, and all had shagged boxes.  That said, our resident used car seller did tell me I was being ambitious with a £4k budget for a 100k, 10yr old car ;D, so was probably looking at the tripe end of stuff.

Hence increasing our budget a bit, and actually getting something decent and more what she wanted....   ...but not stretch to her dream car of an Evoque ;D
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Re: Insignia Cdti,
« Reply #29 on: 21 August 2023, 11:38:10 »

The 6 speed manual is what finishes off most.  If you catch the bearing wear early enough, it's a £400 repair.  If you don't, it's a replacement box, which most places won't do, as all the 2nd hand boxes are semi shagged.

Plenty of info out there how to prove if wear is back on the gearbox - just search for 'M32 gearbox bearing' or similar

Insignia did not use the M32 (which was fully fixed as of around 2012), it had the F40 as the 2.0 CDTi had more then 320Nm of torque.
Well, if that transportr was anything to go by, the F40 aint much coop either ;D

The M32 fix with larger (IIRC) bearings isn't a permanent fix, it just prolongs the inevitable.  I looked at loads of ZAF-Bs with the newer designed gearbox ends, and all had shagged boxes.  That said, our resident used car seller did tell me I was being ambitious with a £4k budget for a 100k, 10yr old car ;D, so was probably looking at the tripe end of stuff.

Hence increasing our budget a bit, and actually getting something decent and more what she wanted....   ...but not stretch to her dream car of an Evoque ;D

There were no UK bound Zaf Bs ever built with the updated M32.

The fix (and it certainly does work) was a larger set of bearings, a new end plate to take them, improved bearing oiling and cooling.

I will send the apprentice around and she can try his Evoque, he has just had to order a new one and is a bit put out that he had to settle for the HSE as there were now Autobiographies available.  ;D
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