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Title: Tyre choice
Post by: Phil L on 25 June 2015, 00:37:23
I've used Pirelli, Michelin & Dunlop successfully on my Omegas but suffered with Kumhos I was recommended a couple of years ago (I'd never touch them again) by my local eTyres fitter. What would folks recommend for reasonable wear & performance ?
Title: Re: Tyre choice
Post by: chrisgixer on 25 June 2015, 01:14:16
Need a bit more info on expectations tbh.

What annoyed you with the Kumhos?
Title: Re: Tyre choice
Post by: tunnie on 25 June 2015, 08:08:47
Which Kuhmos?

I find the KU31s on the 2.2 excellent for my needs  :)

I've got Nexens on the 3.2, terrible tyre no grip dry or wet so easy to light up the rears
Title: Re: Tyre choice
Post by: ronnyd on 25 June 2015, 10:08:40
Which Kuhmos?

I find the KU31s on the 2.2 excellent for my needs  :)

I've got Nexens on the 3.2, terrible tyre no grip dry or wet so easy to light up the rears
I have Nexens all round now and (so far) had no issues. That included driving through a local monsoon last Saturday. Still, as they say "each to his own" :y
Title: Re: Tyre choice
Post by: chrisgixer on 25 June 2015, 10:21:43
Which Kuhmos?

I find the KU31s on the 2.2 excellent for my needs  :)

I've got Nexens on the 3.2, terrible tyre no grip dry or wet so easy to light up the rears
They do have some positives though, right? Like stability I'm told.

 Even the hopelessly dangerously unstable Falkens had some good points.
Title: Re: Tyre choice
Post by: chrisgixer on 25 June 2015, 10:36:43
I've used Pirelli, Michelin & Dunlop successfully on my Omegas but suffered with Kumhos I was recommended a couple of years ago (I'd never touch them again) by my local eTyres fitter. What would folks recommend for reasonable wear & performance ?

Heres an attempt to make some sense of it all. Discontinued models and Typo's aside of course.

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=111577.0;nowap
Title: Re: Tyre choice
Post by: tunnie on 25 June 2015, 10:38:03
Which Kuhmos?

I find the KU31s on the 2.2 excellent for my needs  :)

I've got Nexens on the 3.2, terrible tyre no grip dry or wet so easy to light up the rears
I have Nexens all round now and (so far) had no issues. That included driving through a local monsoon last Saturday. Still, as they say "each to his own" :y

V6? I think on the 2.2 I would have been happy them. The power delivery of the 3.2 is issue I think.

Which Kuhmos?

I find the KU31s on the 2.2 excellent for my needs  :)

I've got Nexens on the 3.2, terrible tyre no grip dry or wet so easy to light up the rears
They do have some positives though, right? Like stability I'm told.

 Even the hopelessly dangerously unstable Falkens had some good points.

Road Noise is good, very quiet.

Wear? 15k ish appears good for 3.2?
Title: Re: Tyre choice
Post by: chrisgixer on 25 June 2015, 10:44:32
Interesting, don't suppose they go a more grippy model...?  :(

Not likely I suppose.
Title: Re: Tyre choice
Post by: tunnie on 25 June 2015, 12:30:19
I have seen 8000's about, not sure if they are higher performance though.
Title: Re: Tyre choice
Post by: 2boxerdogs on 25 June 2015, 17:51:00
Michelins on mine from new, have kept with them with no problems whatsoever cost a few bob but as they say "you get what you pay for".
Title: Re: Tyre choice
Post by: Mr.OmegaMan on 25 June 2015, 19:11:06
Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 on the rear have done around 8,000 miles with roughly 4.5mm left with even ware on the 3.2 saloon.
Title: Re: Tyre choice
Post by: Phil L on 25 June 2015, 19:30:53
Which Kuhmos?

I find the KU31s on the 2.2 excellent for my needs  :)

I've got Nexens on the 3.2, terrible tyre no grip dry or wet so easy to light up the rears
I had Kumhos all round and had a sidewall blowout after less than a year. I replaced it and thought no more. I then had a puncture repaired on another and inspection of the sidewalls showed they were not symmetric such that the tyre had to be scrapped. Looking at the other tyres more closely they were the same and after a long delay Kumhos admitted fault claiming a dodgy batch. Never again. As stated elsewhere, you get what you pay for.
Title: Re: Tyre choice
Post by: Keith ABS on 26 June 2015, 07:31:34
Had a full' set of Nexan 1000,s on my estate. I drive 'spiritedly' and never had a problem dry or wet. After 5k, could not see any wear when I sold the car
Your desision mate

Keith B
Title: Re: Tyre choice
Post by: tunnie on 26 June 2015, 08:31:25
Could be case of differnt models of tyres having s big effect? KU31s rates far higher than KU39's?

Sure there are other examples too here of that.  :-\

Title: Re: Tyre choice
Post by: Kevin Wood on 26 June 2015, 10:57:42
I've been using KU39s for the last couple of tyre changes, apart from a brief experiment with Sport Maxxs (not as good as they used to be IMHO).  I think they are probably the best overall bet for a sub-£100 tyre in 17".

Good stability, average noise, wear rate not too bad, good grip in wet and dry...
Title: Re: Tyre choice
Post by: DrAndyB on 26 June 2015, 11:56:40
Got 4 new Uniroyal Rainsport 3's on mine and no problems.  Had the Goodyear Eagle F1 GSD3's before and they were good, grippy and great in wet (and groooooovy tread pattern too :y)

I would recommend the Rainsport 3s.
Title: Re: Tyre choice
Post by: tunnie on 26 June 2015, 12:50:51
I've been using KU39s for the last couple of tyre changes, apart from a brief experiment with Sport Maxxs (not as good as they used to be IMHO).  I think they are probably the best overall bet for a sub-£100 tyre in 17".

Good stability, average noise, wear rate not too bad, good grip in wet and dry...

Good to know, I rescued the KU39's from the Estate before it went, as they were almost brand new. They will be going on the 3.2 next  :)
Title: Re: Tyre choice
Post by: Phil L on 26 June 2015, 19:04:06
Good luck with them-I wouldn't touch them with a barge pole personally... Keep an eye on the sidewalls.
Phil
Title: Re: Tyre choice
Post by: chrisgixer on 26 June 2015, 19:08:37
Good luck with them-I wouldn't touch them with a barge pole personally... Keep an eye on the sidewalls.
Phil

Manufacturers do have issues occasionally. Goodyear Eagle f1's asym 2 are well used here. But a certain admin had quality issues with more than one of their tyres.

Good year UK site being closed down I hear on the news though, so maybe there's more to it. ;D
Or Dunlop are taking over. Practically the same company anyway, I gather.

Title: Re: Tyre choice
Post by: TheBoy on 26 June 2015, 22:43:03
Sport Maxxs (not as good as they used to be IMHO).
I'm afraid I have to agree, unless my driving style has dramatically changed over the past 2 years :(
Title: Re: Tyre choice
Post by: Phil L on 27 June 2015, 17:33:54
Good luck with them-I wouldn't touch them with a barge pole personally... Keep an eye on the sidewalls.
Phil

Manufacturers do have issues occasionally. Goodyear Eagle f1's asym 2 are well used here. But a certain admin had quality issues with more than one of their tyres.

Good year UK site being closed down I hear on the news though, so maybe there's more to it. ;D
Or Dunlop are taking over. Practically the same company anyway, I gather.
That rings true with me, Kumho took an age to admit liability in my case.  They would have benefitted by owning up ASAP and giving me a full refund for my troubles.  As they didn't, I tell others of my poor experience.
Title: Re: Tyre choice
Post by: chrisgixer on 27 June 2015, 17:57:07
Good luck with them-I wouldn't touch them with a barge pole personally... Keep an eye on the sidewalls.
Phil

Manufacturers do have issues occasionally. Goodyear Eagle f1's asym 2 are well used here. But a certain admin had quality issues with more than one of their tyres.

Good year UK site being closed down I hear on the news though, so maybe there's more to it. ;D
Or Dunlop are taking over. Practically the same company anyway, I gather.
That rings true with me, Kumho took an age to admit liability in my case.  They would have benefitted by owning up ASAP and giving me a full refund for my troubles.  As they didn't, I tell others of my poor experience.

They aren't a "good" tyre anyway tbh. Ku31 arrived with her Lexus is300 and she soon started complaining about opposite lock moments, esp in the wet. From experience there's similar levels of grip on an omega with them.
...not that she would be that confident in the omega barge, by comparison.
Title: Re: Tyre choice
Post by: TheBoy on 27 June 2015, 21:18:45
On most cars I've tried them on, KU31 had reasonable levels of grip, but absolutely no feedback, so push a shade too far, they completely let go.
Title: Re: Tyre choice
Post by: The Sheriff on 27 June 2015, 22:06:32
Just to clear something up here. When you are discussing these tyre options, are you talking about tyres suitable for everyday, normal driving, or about tyres suitable for lunatics?
Title: Re: Tyre choice
Post by: tunnie on 27 June 2015, 22:33:27
Just to clear something up here. When you are discussing these tyre options, are you talking about tyres suitable for everyday, normal driving, or about tyres suitable for lunatimcs?

Everyday driving the KU31s I have are excellent for me :)

It's worth noting that the main complainers of grip, have their cars chavved up with huge bumpers, massive alloys and twin exit exhausts   ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Tyre choice
Post by: 05omegav6 on 27 June 2015, 23:22:27
And... ::)

 ;D
Title: Re: Tyre choice
Post by: VXL V6 on 28 June 2015, 00:01:27
It must be something to do with the twin exit exhaust then.  :y ::)
Title: Re: Tyre choice
Post by: chrisgixer on 28 June 2015, 00:02:51
And... ::)

 ;D
....also use...



.....MORE THAN 1/5th THROTTLE....



....TUNNIE.... ::) ;D
Title: Re: Tyre choice
Post by: Lazydocker on 28 June 2015, 18:50:20
And... ::)

 ;D
....also use...



.....THE THROTTLE....



....TUNNIE.... ::) ;D
Fixed :-X ::)
Title: Re: Tyre choice
Post by: chrisgixer on 28 June 2015, 21:36:12
Ah yes, tick over top speed. ;D
Title: Re: Tyre choice
Post by: tunnie on 28 June 2015, 22:59:23
Least I know the throttle has more that two settings, on or off  :D
Title: Re: Tyre choice
Post by: chrisgixer on 29 June 2015, 00:11:18
Least I know the throttle has more that two settings, on or off  :D

Start with on. :P
Title: Re: Tyre choice
Post by: Broomies Mate on 29 June 2015, 00:22:28
Completely different vehicle, but I have a pair of Kumho Ecsta KU31 on the front and Uniroyal Rainsport 3 on the rear of a FWD car.

I've tried swapping front to back, and I'm much happier with the traction from the Khumo's than the Uniroyals.

I know for a fact that the Uniroyals were better on the Omega than the Saab.  Each car has different characterists, I guess.  :-\