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Title: Age old question....
Post by: TheBoy on 04 December 2023, 15:09:10
Perusing Autotrader, can't find anything that fits.

Large saloon
RWD
Auto
200+ BHP
£10kish for sub 10yr 100k miles example
40+ mpg capable day to day

I think my choices are:
BMW 7 Series - too many reliability issues, and struggle to fit in budget for a 100k mile example
Merc S class - a remotely acceptable one is 30+ years old.
Lexus (anything) - too narrow/cramped
Kia Stinger - could prove expensive as pattern parts and info hard to get
Infiniti - couldn't live with interior


Any other pearls of wisdom?
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: STEMO on 04 December 2023, 15:10:44
I know you car needed a fannymold, but I didn't realise it was terminal  :-\
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: STEMO on 04 December 2023, 15:12:23
Perusing Autotrader, can't find anything that fits.

Large saloon
RWD
Auto
200+ BHP
£10kish for sub 10yr 100k miles example
40+ mpg capable day to day

I think my choices are:
BMW 7 Series - too many reliability issues, and struggle to fit in budget for a 100k mile example
Merc S class - a remotely acceptable one is 30+ years old.
Lexus (anything) - too narrow/cramped
Kia Stinger - could prove expensive as pattern parts and info hard to get
Infiniti - couldn't live with interior


Any other pearls of wisdom?
I doubt very much that there are cars out there that you wouldn't know about already.
RWD is a very limiting choice
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: TheBoy on 04 December 2023, 15:42:56
I know you car needed a fannymold, but I didn't realise it was terminal  :-\
Valve cover/intake manifold replaced, with the help of chrisgixer yesterday, in his nice, warm, heated garage.

So now its working, time to get shot of it :)
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: TheBoy on 04 December 2023, 15:43:58
RWD is the killer.  But FWD and 200+ BHP is not really a solution.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 04 December 2023, 15:54:09
Take the mpg off the list and the list increases exponentially.

And any S Class that you might consider suitable will come complete with sub 15 mpg fuel economy.

Unless you go left hand drive and get an early 90's S350D. Or import a Holden Commodore.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: STEMO on 04 December 2023, 15:59:44
I know you car needed a fannymold, but I didn't realise it was terminal  :-\
Valve cover/intake manifold replaced, with the help of chrisgixer yesterday, in his nice, warm, heated garage.

So now its working, time to get shot of it :)
Understood. Although you might find that, for what you'd get for it, it's hard to part with.

My 66 plate Astra diesel is in danger of being chopped, but I can't get my head around the fact that a 65,000 mile car, in good order, with a long MOT and FSH will only get me £4500 off another car.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 04 December 2023, 16:06:01
I know you car needed a fannymold, but I didn't realise it was terminal  :-\
Valve cover/intake manifold replaced, with the help of chrisgixer yesterday, in his nice, warm, heated garage.

So now its working, time to get shot of it :)
Understood. Although you might find that, for what you'd get for it, it's hard to part with.

My 66 plate Astra diesel is in danger of being chopped, but I can't get my head around the fact that a 65,000 mile car, in good order, with a long MOT and FSH will only get me £4500 off another car.
For one, it's a seven year old Astra, and the used prices are beginning to normalise following the artificial spike in values resulting from TCV.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: STEMO on 04 December 2023, 16:07:35
I know you car needed a fannymold, but I didn't realise it was terminal  :-\
Valve cover/intake manifold replaced, with the help of chrisgixer yesterday, in his nice, warm, heated garage.

So now its working, time to get shot of it :)
Understood. Although you might find that, for what you'd get for it, it's hard to part with.

My 66 plate Astra diesel is in danger of being chopped, but I can't get my head around the fact that a 65,000 mile car, in good order, with a long MOT and FSH will only get me £4500 off another car.
For one, it's a seven year old Astra, and the used prices are beginning to normalise following the artificial spike in values resulting from TCV.
Yes, I obviously know that, but it just feels like a very decent car, worth more to me than £4500.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 04 December 2023, 16:09:35
I know you car needed a fannymold, but I didn't realise it was terminal  :-\
Valve cover/intake manifold replaced, with the help of chrisgixer yesterday, in his nice, warm, heated garage.

So now its working, time to get shot of it :)
Understood. Although you might find that, for what you'd get for it, it's hard to part with.

My 66 plate Astra diesel is in danger of being chopped, but I can't get my head around the fact that a 65,000 mile car, in good order, with a long MOT and FSH will only get me £4500 off another car.
For one, it's a seven year old Astra, and the used prices are beginning to normalise following the artificial spike in values resulting from TCV.
Yes, I obviously know that, but it just feels like a very decent car, worth more to me than £4500.
In which case keep it serviced and run it until it rots away.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: STEMO on 04 December 2023, 16:35:03
I know you car needed a fannymold, but I didn't realise it was terminal  :-\
Valve cover/intake manifold replaced, with the help of chrisgixer yesterday, in his nice, warm, heated garage.

So now its working, time to get shot of it :)
Understood. Although you might find that, for what you'd get for it, it's hard to part with.

My 66 plate Astra diesel is in danger of being chopped, but I can't get my head around the fact that a 65,000 mile car, in good order, with a long MOT and FSH will only get me £4500 off another car.
For one, it's a seven year old Astra, and the used prices are beginning to normalise following the artificial spike in values resulting from TCV.
Yes, I obviously know that, but it just feels like a very decent car, worth more to me than £4500.
In which case keep it serviced and run it until it rots away.
Could do with something bigger. But this isn't helping Jaime.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Viral_Jim on 04 December 2023, 17:13:41
Hyundai Genesis. http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202310142987375 (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202310142987375)

Or just give it up and buy a range Rover. You know you want to, plus it will be funny.  :y
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 04 December 2023, 17:30:36
Perusing Autotrader, can't find anything that fits.

Large saloon
RWD
Auto
200+ BHP
£10kish for sub 10yr 100k miles example
40+ mpg capable day to day

I think my choices are:
BMW 7 Series - too many reliability issues, and struggle to fit in budget for a 100k mile example
Merc S class - a remotely acceptable one is 30+ years old.
Lexus (anything) - too narrow/cramped
Kia Stinger - could prove expensive as pattern parts and info hard to get
Infiniti - couldn't live with interior


Any other pearls of wisdom?

Had a 24 test drive with one of these.

3.3 litre turbo V6 with about 375 BHP. I liked it and it was amazing value for money. Around £40,000 with every extra as standard.

You could do worse. :y
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Andy B on 04 December 2023, 17:31:37
Perusing Autotrader, can't find anything that fits.

Large saloon
RWD
Auto
200+ BHP
£10kish for sub 10yr 100k miles example
40+ mpg capable day to day

I think my choices are:
BMW 7 Series - too many reliability issues, and struggle to fit in budget for a 100k mile example
Merc S class - a remotely acceptable one is 30+ years old.
Lexus (anything) - too narrow/cramped
Kia Stinger - could prove expensive as pattern parts and info hard to get
Infiniti - couldn't live with interior


Any other pearls of wisdom?

and it's a Datsun  ::)
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 04 December 2023, 17:35:02
Perusing Autotrader, can't find anything that fits.

Large saloon
RWD
Auto
200+ BHP
£10kish for sub 10yr 100k miles example
40+ mpg capable day to day

I think my choices are:
BMW 7 Series - too many reliability issues, and struggle to fit in budget for a 100k mile example
Merc S class - a remotely acceptable one is 30+ years old.
Lexus (anything) - too narrow/cramped
Kia Stinger - could prove expensive as pattern parts and info hard to get
Infiniti - couldn't live with interior


Any other pearls of wisdom?

and it's a Datsun  ::)




It is, and I nearly bought one. It sports a 3.5 litr V6 taken fron the Datsun 350Z......plus a bit of leccy motor help to save the planet. :)
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 04 December 2023, 17:35:46
Hyundai Genesis. http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202310142987375 (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202310142987375)

Or just give it up and buy a range Rover. You know you want to, plus it will be funny.  :y

Lot of motor car for £8995.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Rangie on 04 December 2023, 17:59:35
Hyundai Genesis. http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202310142987375 (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202310142987375)

Or just give it up and buy a range Rover. You know you want to, plus it will be funny.  :y
.

I'd second that get a Range Rover & stuff the MPG.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: TheBoy on 04 December 2023, 18:02:21
Hyundai Genesis. http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202310142987375 (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202310142987375)

Or just give it up and buy a range Rover. You know you want to, plus it will be funny.  :y
Funnily enough I started eyeing up FF RRs again.  But it would have to be a soot chucker. And that means the same stupid PSA/Ford stupidity as what I already have, albeit slightly changed.

The Hyundai's economy isn't going to be acceptable, especially for essentially a shitbox, rather than something I fancy...
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: TheBoy on 04 December 2023, 18:03:39
Perusing Autotrader, can't find anything that fits.

Large saloon
RWD
Auto
200+ BHP
£10kish for sub 10yr 100k miles example
40+ mpg capable day to day

I think my choices are:
BMW 7 Series - too many reliability issues, and struggle to fit in budget for a 100k mile example
Merc S class - a remotely acceptable one is 30+ years old.
Lexus (anything) - too narrow/cramped
Kia Stinger - could prove expensive as pattern parts and info hard to get
Infiniti - couldn't live with interior


Any other pearls of wisdom?

Had a 24 test drive with one of these.

3.3 litre turbo V6 with about 375 BHP. I liked it and it was amazing value for money. Around £40,000 with every extra as standard.

You could do worse. :y
Trouble is, it'd have to be the GTD variant.  If it was a car I really wanted, I might take the hit on the MPG.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 04 December 2023, 18:07:09
Got a nice Omega here.  ;D
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Rangie on 04 December 2023, 18:20:41
Hyundai Genesis. http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202310142987375 (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202310142987375)

Or just give it up and buy a range Rover. You know you want to, plus it will be funny.  :y
Funnily enough I started eyeing up FF RRs again.  But it would have to be a soot chucker. And that means the same stupid PSA/Ford stupidity as what I already have, albeit slightly changed.

The Hyundai's economy isn't going to be acceptable, especially for essentially a shitbox, rather than something I fancy...
.

Don't think you'd have problems with the TDV8 the V6 on the other hand is the one to avoid.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: TheBoy on 04 December 2023, 18:23:03
Got a nice Omega here.  ;D
I'd have another 3.0l if I could find what I would class as a good one.  Very, very hard car to beat.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: TheBoy on 04 December 2023, 18:24:30
Hyundai Genesis. http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202310142987375 (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202310142987375)

Or just give it up and buy a range Rover. You know you want to, plus it will be funny.  :y
Funnily enough I started eyeing up FF RRs again.  But it would have to be a soot chucker. And that means the same stupid PSA/Ford stupidity as what I already have, albeit slightly changed.

The Hyundai's economy isn't going to be acceptable, especially for essentially a shitbox, rather than something I fancy...
.

Don't think you'd have problems with the TDV8 the V6 on the other hand is the one to avoid.
You on about crank failures?  That's an issue specific to Land Rover.

But I bet the TDV8 has the same plastic shite as the TDV6?
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Rangie on 04 December 2023, 18:41:22
Hyundai Genesis. http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202310142987375 (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202310142987375)

Or just give it up and buy a range Rover. You know you want to, plus it will be funny.  :y
Funnily enough I started eyeing up FF RRs again.  But it would have to be a soot chucker. And that means the same stupid PSA/Ford stupidity as what I already have, albeit slightly changed.

The Hyundai's economy isn't going to be acceptable, especially for essentially a shitbox, rather than something I fancy...
.

Don't think you'd have problems with the TDV8 the V6 on the other hand is the one to avoid.
You on about crank failures?  That's an issue specific to Land Rover.

But I bet the TDV8 has the same plastic shite as the TDV6?
.

Haven't read anything about plastic parts failing just lack of power & the well documented crank failures even on newish low mileage V6 models , I've got every bit of paperwork with mine no failures apart from the central locking which I had completely replaced when I first got it.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 04 December 2023, 18:44:44
Hyundai Genesis. http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202310142987375 (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202310142987375)

Or just give it up and buy a range Rover. You know you want to, plus it will be funny.  :y
Funnily enough I started eyeing up FF RRs again.  But it would have to be a soot chucker. And that means the same stupid PSA/Ford stupidity as what I already have, albeit slightly changed.

The Hyundai's economy isn't going to be acceptable, especially for essentially a shitbox, rather than something I fancy...
.

Don't think you'd have problems with the TDV8 the V6 on the other hand is the one to avoid.
You on about crank failures?  That's an issue specific to Land Rover.

But I bet the TDV8 has the same plastic shite as the TDV6?
.

Haven't read anything about plastic parts failing just lack of power & the well documented crank failures even on newish low mileage V6 models , I've got every bit of paperwork with mine no failures apart from the central locking which I had completely replaced when I first got it.

I think that most of the well documented failures with TDV8 Range Rovers are down to poor maintenance.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 04 December 2023, 18:48:25
Better the devil you know, TB.......only this time with a proper engine, rather than one taken from a cement mixer or canal boat.  :y

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202305207590400? (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202305207590400?)
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Rangie on 04 December 2023, 18:53:48
Hyundai Genesis. http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202310142987375 (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202310142987375)

Or just give it up and buy a range Rover. You know you want to, plus it will be funny.  :y
Funnily enough I started eyeing up FF RRs again.  But it would have to be a soot chucker. And that means the same stupid PSA/Ford stupidity as what I already have, albeit slightly changed.

The Hyundai's economy isn't going to be acceptable, especially for essentially a shitbox, rather than something I fancy...
.

Don't think you'd have problems with the TDV8 the V6 on the other hand is the one to avoid.
You on about crank failures?  That's an issue specific to Land Rover.

But I bet the TDV8 has the same plastic shite as the TDV6?
.

Haven't read anything about plastic parts failing just lack of power & the well documented crank failures even on newish low mileage V6 models , I've got every bit of paperwork with mine no failures apart from the central locking which I had completely replaced when I first got it.

I think that most of the well documented failures with TDV8 Range Rovers are down to poor maintenance.


When I read some of the posts on the RR forum I'm not surprised these simply aren't the vehicles to "tinker" about on , you need to be prepared to spend at least £700-£1000 pa to keep them up to scratch & certainly don't entrust them to a main dealership.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 04 December 2023, 19:44:25
Perusing Autotrader, can't find anything that fits.

Large saloon
RWD
Auto
200+ BHP - for a sub 5yr 25K miles example
40+ mpg capable day to day


I think my choices are:
BMW 7 Series - too many reliability issues, and struggle to fit in budget for a 100k mile example
Merc S class - a remotely acceptable one is 30+ years old.
Lexus (anything) - too narrow/cramped
Kia Stinger - could prove expensive as pattern parts and info hard to get
Infiniti - couldn't live with interior


Any other pearls of wisdom?

Sounds like my shopping list. :y
Mine was based on luxury, comfoft, low mileage and ecconomy.

Decided to wait in the end as a mate has a S350 that may come at a good price at some point, he looks after the cars he buys and the mileage will be low.

Plus waiting the bugdet may get higher. :y
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 04 December 2023, 20:00:46
Perusing Autotrader, can't find anything that fits.

Large saloon
RWD
Auto
200+ BHP - for a sub 5yr 25K miles example
40+ mpg capable day to day


I think my choices are:
BMW 7 Series - too many reliability issues, and struggle to fit in budget for a 100k mile example
Merc S class - a remotely acceptable one is 30+ years old.
Lexus (anything) - too narrow/cramped
Kia Stinger - could prove expensive as pattern parts and info hard to get
Infiniti - couldn't live with interior


Any other pearls of wisdom?

Sounds like my shopping list. :y
Mine was based on luxury, comfoft, low mileage and ecconomy.

Decided to wait in the end as a mate has a S350 that may come at a good price at some point, he looks after the cars he buys and the mileage will be low.

Plus waiting the bugdet may get higher. :y

Your budget will go down if you insist on spending money on loose women. ::)
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 04 December 2023, 20:04:34
Better the devil you know, TB.......only this time with a proper engine, rather than one taken from a cement mixer or canal boat.  :y

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202305207590400? (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202305207590400?)

That's a beastie!  8)   :y
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Viral_Jim on 04 December 2023, 20:09:15

When I read some of the posts on the RR forum I'm not surprised these simply aren't the vehicles to "tinker" about on , you need to be prepared to spend at least £700-£1000 pa to keep them up to scratch & certainly don't entrust them to a main dealership.

And the rest! If you don't want to twirl a spanner. That wouldn't keep TB in tyres much less anything else.


You on about crank failures?  That's an issue specific to Land Rover.

So not a jag issue then? How odd.

Did you ever do the HP diesel pump belt on yours? GF wants to chop her Evoque in for a Disco 4 as the boot and rear seats she has now are unacceptably small.

I figure this is a job I'll be lumped with at some point and it Looks like a total nightmare.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Rangie on 04 December 2023, 20:18:25
My dearest spend was £1200 for service & MOT + a couple of minor repairs, my cheapest was £700 for service & MOT never touch spanners myself 👍
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: TheBoy on 04 December 2023, 20:20:43
I think the TDV6 cranks fail in LR applications due to engine being used as part of the chassis, and under physical stresses of it.  Crank failures on Jag saloons aren't unheard of, but seemingly not even remotely common (like on LRs), and can probably be attributed to poor servicing.

Not done fuel pump belt on mine, I think its coming up on being due for the first time, as its coming up to being due on its 2nd cam belt, probably next year.  As I don't have a locking kit and will probably never do another, I might pay a indie to do them both.  Neither job looks *too* bad, but cam belt looks like a significant stripdown of the pipework across the front of the aux belt - time consuming rather than hard.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: TheBoy on 04 December 2023, 20:21:47
My dearest spend was £1200 for service & MOT + a couple of minor repairs, my cheapest was £700 for service & MOT never touch spanners myself 👍
So you haven't put new tyres on it yet?  They must be more than £250 each, and probably should be renewed as a complete set?
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 04 December 2023, 20:27:30
Well, you could slim down a bit so a Lexus isnt too narrow inside.  ;D
Then theres the MPG issue. It will be boringly reliable, so wont need to keep going to Gixers garage for repairs, so you will save a bit there.
More of a comfy cruiser than a drivers car though, so you may have to get a bit older before a Lexus suits you.
I would be perfectly happy with one now................most of the time.
Or you could do what Ive done and have different cars for different purposes / moods.
The little Jap / Froggy roller skate for economic running around. The Boxster for blasting around when your in the mood for some fast cornering etc.
And the Omega for doing a bit similar in perfect comfort.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Rangie on 04 December 2023, 20:29:36
My dearest spend was £1200 for service & MOT + a couple of minor repairs, my cheapest was £700 for service & MOT never touch spanners myself 👍
So you haven't put new tyres on it yet?  They must be more than £250 each, and probably should be renewed as a complete set?

Had 4 new tyres 14 months ago £760 Yokohamas had them on all my 4x4s absolutely brilliant, always replace 4 at a time .
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: TheBoy on 04 December 2023, 21:07:43
Well, you could slim down a bit so a Lexus isnt too narrow inside.  ;D
They have always been too narrow. Fine if in car on your own, but cramped with front seat passenger.  Many Jap cars are similar.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 04 December 2023, 21:19:41
Surprised at that as they are big cars. Never been in one myself though.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 04 December 2023, 21:39:18
Surprised at that as they are big cars. Never been in one myself though.

I guess a lot of Japanese people are kinda narrow.  :-X   ::)

Apart from the Sumo wrestlers that is!  >:D
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: TheBoy on 04 December 2023, 21:40:14
Surprised at that as they are big cars. Never been in one myself though.

I guess a lot of Japanese people are kinda narrow.  :-X   ::)

Apart from the Sumo wrestlers that is!  >:D
Don't the Caps have different tax bands based on physical size?
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 04 December 2023, 21:42:39
Surprised at that as they are big cars. Never been in one myself though.

I guess a lot of Japanese people are kinda narrow.  :-X   ::)

Apart from the Sumo wrestlers that is!  >:D
Don't the Caps have different tax bands based on physical size?
Engine size and vehicle age...

https://groups.oist.jp/resource-center/annual-road-tax
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 04 December 2023, 21:53:56
Doesnt look particularly narrow to me.  :-\

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/305279506640?hash=item47141398d0:g:j6MAAOSwCwtlZFBK&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwFC17SIrmA4evgQ7FoGHX9snyhwRj%2FrnE%2FA69XqWxbKdjgrcA9RA5Wdyfd4cX4VlDbV7UphSprtxHx9nA3KJTf1YrdEvk1xouitaNGY6ueqzIh6moKn3MqjYxmAEiiipQoIO2XafvY7bVZt8ah2hkWskUAnAs8IAhnGcg076lcZ8RxSTFQKEFar2WWXUMDQwoYfO%2BupiEnUH7G%2BN4KnxQ5%2Flqxd8N7XlSzp5HtuIG4OWPEnCEeGEqVgYyprds0We%2Bw%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR97Cje2GYw
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Rangie on 04 December 2023, 22:07:55
They're nice cars the Lexus , but a former colleague had one & got rid because the chassis was full of rust, maybe a one off other than that don't know much about them.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 04 December 2023, 22:14:51
Doesnt look particularly narrow to me.  :-\

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/305279506640?hash=item47141398d0:g:j6MAAOSwCwtlZFBK&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwFC17SIrmA4evgQ7FoGHX9snyhwRj%2FrnE%2FA69XqWxbKdjgrcA9RA5Wdyfd4cX4VlDbV7UphSprtxHx9nA3KJTf1YrdEvk1xouitaNGY6ueqzIh6moKn3MqjYxmAEiiipQoIO2XafvY7bVZt8ah2hkWskUAnAs8IAhnGcg076lcZ8RxSTFQKEFar2WWXUMDQwoYfO%2BupiEnUH7G%2BN4KnxQ5%2Flqxd8N7XlSzp5HtuIG4OWPEnCEeGEqVgYyprds0We%2Bw%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR97Cje2GYw
Granted, they set a pretty low bar with the LS400, but their interiors have improved somewhat ;)
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Viral_Jim on 05 December 2023, 00:04:44
Could get one of these if your arse, like mine, is particularly wide...

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312034503959 (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312034503959)
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: YZ250 on 05 December 2023, 15:31:27
Perusing Autotrader, can't find anything that fits.

Large saloon
RWD
Auto
200+ BHP
£10kish for sub 10yr 100k miles example
40+ mpg capable day to day

I think my choices are:
BMW 7 Series - too many reliability issues
…………

Remind me again why it would have to be a 7 Series, why not an F10 530d.  :-\   Apart from your budget dictating it being at the upper end of your vehicle age limit, all other criteria is satisfied.  :y

Regarding the 7 Series, I guess it’s the luck of the draw. You may recall me posting some years back about my son’s friends 730Ld (Long wheelbase, hence the L). It was purchased from new as a private chauffeur car for airport runs as well as business use and he ran up galactic miles on it. The auto box was repaired/replaced at 265K miles and the last time I saw it the mileage was well over 400K miles.  :o
No idea of any issues with it though.  :-\
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 05 December 2023, 16:03:50
Your budget will go down if you insist on spending money on loose women. ::)


Dont be silly :y

I got smart years ago. ::)
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: dave the builder on 05 December 2023, 16:45:19
Clicky  (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202311294392572)  :)
Quite rare  8)  not a clitoris car by any means
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: STEMO on 05 December 2023, 16:51:33
Clicky  (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202311294392572)  :)
Quite rare  8)  not a clitoris car by any means
17mpg around town  :o
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 05 December 2023, 16:55:41
Clicky  (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202311294392572)  :)
Quite rare  8)  not a clitoris car by any means

I doubt he would be able to tolerate the downgrade in comfort, features and handling
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: dave the builder on 05 December 2023, 16:56:21
Clicky  (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202311294392572)  :)
Quite rare  8)  not a clitoris car by any means
17mpg around town  :o
about the same as an omega then  :D
the price point leaves plenty of spare ££ for petrol  ;)
depends how many miles P/A Jamie does  :-\
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: STEMO on 05 December 2023, 19:26:32
Have a look at this

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202306148508681


Then look at its MOT history
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Viral_Jim on 05 December 2023, 19:41:16
Clicky  (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202311294392572)  :)
Quite rare  8)  not a clitoris car by any means

I doubt he would be able to tolerate the downgrade in comfort, features and handling

Given the criteria, there's going to be a sizable downgrade somewhere.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Viral_Jim on 05 December 2023, 19:42:52
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202311174044724 (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202311174044724)

Another one for the hilarious when it's happening to someone else list.   ;D
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: VXL V6 on 05 December 2023, 20:08:07
Hyundai Genesis. http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202310142987375 (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202310142987375)

Or just give it up and buy a range Rover. You know you want to, plus it will be funny.  :y
.

I'd second that get a Range Rover & stuff the MPG.

Assuming you can find an insurance company that will insure it currently.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: TheBoy on 05 December 2023, 20:20:29
Have a look at this

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202306148508681


Then look at its MOT history
Yeah, that's been meticulously looked after ;D
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: TheBoy on 05 December 2023, 20:22:40
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202311174044724 (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202311174044724)

Another one for the hilarious when it's happening to someone else list.   ;D
They do diesels? What's the world coming to!
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: dave the builder on 05 December 2023, 20:36:43
Have a look at this

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202306148508681


Then look at its MOT history
The 9 January 2023 Test still covers it ,despite the July fail , very odd
at least it's got 38 less mules on now than 3 July 2023  ;D
it's not just DeLoreans that do time travel  :P
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 05 December 2023, 21:07:42
Have a look at this

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202306148508681


Then look at its MOT history

I sat in one of those a while ago and I'm not a big fella by any means, but found it abit cosy so I reckon it would be a bit 'narrow' for TB!  ::)
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: STEMO on 05 December 2023, 21:49:59
Have a look at this

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202306148508681


Then look at its MOT history
The 9 January 2023 Test still covers it ,despite the July fail , very odd
at least it's got 38 less mules on now than 3 July 2023  ;D
it's not just DeLoreans that do time travel  :P
We call them horses in the trade, Dave, not mules  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Andy B on 05 December 2023, 21:54:41
Have a look at this

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202306148508681


Then look at its MOT history
The 9 January 2023 Test still covers it ,despite the July fail , very odd
at least it's got 38 less mules on now than 3 July 2023  ;D
it's not just DeLoreans that do time travel  :P
We call them horses in the trade, Dave, not mules  ;D ;D

 You see, my mule don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him......  ;D
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: STEMO on 05 December 2023, 21:56:31
Have a look at this

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202306148508681


Then look at its MOT history
The 9 January 2023 Test still covers it ,despite the July fail , very odd
at least it's got 38 less mules on now than 3 July 2023  ;D
it's not just DeLoreans that do time travel  :P
We call them horses in the trade, Dave, not mules  ;D ;D

 You see, my mule don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him......  ;D

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Varche on 05 December 2023, 22:15:48
If you could live with left hand drive why not import a good example low kilometrage Omega from the continent?

There  are three 50k miles example for about £7000  in Germany( suchen .mobile.de website)I could put you in touch with the chap at Specialist vehicles who imported ours.

LHD wouldnt be for everyone! Overtaking and car park barriers to name just two but maybe Convert it to RHD?

An Omega from further South might be even better but low mileage jobs are harder tocome by in Spain in my experience and often do not have any service history at all. My local garage was gobsmacked when I insisted on him filling in the logbook.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: dave the builder on 05 December 2023, 22:58:49
Have a look at this

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202306148508681


Then look at its MOT history
The 9 January 2023 Test still covers it ,despite the July fail , very odd
at least it's got 38 less mules on now than 3 July 2023  ;D
it's not just DeLoreans that do time travel  :P
We call them horses in the trade, Dave, not mules  ;D ;D

;D
shall I message the seller and ask if i can use his time machine Jag to go back and fix my typo  :-\
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 05 December 2023, 23:34:18
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202311174044724 (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202311174044724)

Another one for the hilarious when it's happening to someone else list.   ;D
They do diesels? What's the world coming to!
Same engine as yours, so at least it is a known entity  ;D
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Viral_Jim on 06 December 2023, 07:45:16
Same engine as yours, so at least it is a known entity  ;D

Shhhh! Don't put him off! I'm trying to create some forum gold over here!!
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 06 December 2023, 08:23:11
Same engine as yours, so at least it is a known entity  ;D

Shhhh! Don't put him off! I'm trying to create some forum gold over here!!
I wouldn't worry about that... He already owns two JLR products and STILL thinks a Range Rover is a good idea. ;D
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 06 December 2023, 12:12:45
Have a look at this

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202306148508681


Then look at its MOT history

I sat in one of those a while ago and I'm not a big fella by any means, but found it abit cosy so I reckon it would be a bit 'narrow' for TB!  ::)

I'm six one and I found both of mine to be spacious in the front, but space was tight in the back for such a big car.

This car appears to be finished in IRR (same as my 2nd XFR) a £2500 option. :y

Downside is that it is derv and comes with pissy 2.2 litre lump. :)


Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: STEMO on 06 December 2023, 12:16:39
Have a look at this

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202306148508681


Then look at its MOT history

I sat in one of those a while ago and I'm not a big fella by any means, but found it abit cosy so I reckon it would be a bit 'narrow' for TB!  ::)

I'm six one and I found both of mine to be spacious in the front, but space was tight in the back for such a big car.

This car appears to be finished in IRR (same as my 2nd XFR) a £2500 option. :y

Downside is that it is derv and comes with pissy 2.2 litre lump. :)
The downside is the history I pointed out.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 06 December 2023, 12:18:36
Have a look at this

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202306148508681


Then look at its MOT history
The 9 January 2023 Test still covers it ,despite the July fail , very odd
at least it's got 38 less mules on now than 3 July 2023  ;D
it's not just DeLoreans that do time travel  :P
We call them horses in the trade, Dave, not mules  ;D ;D

You see, my mule don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him......  ;D


https://youtu.be/mkr0bwV5YWE?feature=shared (https://youtu.be/mkr0bwV5YWE?feature=shared)
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 06 December 2023, 12:20:46
Have a look at this

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202306148508681


Then look at its MOT history

I sat in one of those a while ago and I'm not a big fella by any means, but found it abit cosy so I reckon it would be a bit 'narrow' for TB!  ::)

I'm six one and I found both of mine to be spacious in the front, but space was tight in the back for such a big car.

This car appears to be finished in IRR (same as my 2nd XFR) a £2500 option. :y

Downside is that it is derv and comes with pissy 2.2 litre lump. :)
The downside is the history I pointed out.


The downside is it runs on soot and won't pull the skin off a rice pudding. :)
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Andy B on 06 December 2023, 13:39:23
Have a look at this

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202306148508681


Then look at its MOT history
The 9 January 2023 Test still covers it ,despite the July fail , very odd
at least it's got 38 less mules on now than 3 July 2023  ;D
it's not just DeLoreans that do time travel  :P
We call them horses in the trade, Dave, not mules  ;D ;D

You see, my mule don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him......  ;D


https://youtu.be/mkr0bwV5YWE?feature=shared (https://youtu.be/mkr0bwV5YWE?feature=shared)

my mistake .... 4 coffins  ;D
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: TheBoy on 06 December 2023, 13:55:10
Have a look at this

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202306148508681


Then look at its MOT history

I sat in one of those a while ago and I'm not a big fella by any means, but found it abit cosy so I reckon it would be a bit 'narrow' for TB!  ::)
I fit fine in XE's and XF's.  Rear is no good for tall people, but fine for normal height fat people like me :)

Did you feel cramped due to the high window line (presumably for strength)?
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: TheBoy on 06 December 2023, 13:57:01
Same engine as yours, so at least it is a known entity  ;D

Shhhh! Don't put him off! I'm trying to create some forum gold over here!!
I wouldn't worry about that... He already owns two JLR products and STILL thinks a Range Rover is a good idea. ;D
No, I know a FF RR is a bad, bad idea, especially as it would have to be diesel, and the 4.4 V8 is a direct relation to the engine in mine.

But, itches have to be scratched sometimes ;D.  Reality is, as it dont fit right on driveway, its unlikely to happen until I move.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 06 December 2023, 14:45:16
Have a look at this

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202306148508681


Then look at its MOT history

I sat in one of those a while ago and I'm not a big fella by any means, but found it abit cosy so I reckon it would be a bit 'narrow' for TB!  ::)
I fit fine in XE's and XF's.  Rear is no good for tall people, but fine for normal height fat people like me :)

Did you feel cramped due to the high window line (presumably for strength)?

Frank Cannon drove a Lincoln Continental. Could you be tempted? :D :D ;)
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Andy B on 06 December 2023, 15:26:50
....
Frank Cannon drove a Lincoln Continental. Could you be tempted? :D :D ;)

I can't find a 2 door car like Frank's but how about a 4 door 'sedan'?  ;D
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/QC8AAOSwWqNk8ejS/s-l1600.jpg)

on Autotrader https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/355181490440?hash=item52b2777108:g:onAAAOSwH6lk8eju
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Andy B on 06 December 2023, 15:30:00
or maybe a modern day General Lee ..... you'd need bloody deep pockets though!  ;D ;D ;D

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/355181491567?hash=item52b277756f:g:ktoAAOSwA9plAfTY
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Viral_Jim on 06 December 2023, 15:56:48
or maybe a modern day General Lee ..... you'd need bloody deep pockets though!  ;D ;D ;D

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/355181491567?hash=item52b277756f:g:ktoAAOSwA9plAfTY

I'd love to know who buys these things, £145k for a plastic interior and a broken steering wheel.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: TheBoy on 06 December 2023, 15:59:53
or maybe a modern day General Lee ..... you'd need bloody deep pockets though!  ;D ;D ;D

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/355181491567?hash=item52b277756f:g:ktoAAOSwA9plAfTY
Obviously, when of a certain age before Daisy Duke became the reason to watch, all my mates an I wanted the General Lee.  Then we simultaneously hit the age that Miss Duke mattered and discovered that yankee muscle cars are universally shite ;D
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 06 December 2023, 16:24:05
Have a look at this

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202306148508681


Then look at its MOT history

I sat in one of those a while ago and I'm not a big fella by any means, but found it abit cosy so I reckon it would be a bit 'narrow' for TB!  ::)
I fit fine in XE's and XF's.  Rear is no good for tall people, but fine for normal height fat people like me :)

Did you feel cramped due to the high window line (presumably for strength)?

Dunno to be honest and they're probably no smaller than my Mondeo or V70, but it just felt like there wasn't room to swing a cat.  :-\

Not that I want to swing a cat.  ::)  Obviously!  ;D
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 06 December 2023, 16:26:18
Same engine as yours, so at least it is a known entity  ;D

Shhhh! Don't put him off! I'm trying to create some forum gold over here!!
I wouldn't worry about that... He already owns two JLR products and STILL thinks a Range Rover is a good idea. ;D
No, I know a FF RR is a bad, bad idea, especially as it would have to be diesel, and the 4.4 V8 is a direct relation to the engine in mine.

But, itches have to be scratched sometimes ;D.  Reality is, as it dont fit right on driveway, its unlikely to happen until I move.

Just do it and park it half up on the pavement outside your house.  :y   Like every one else does!  ::)   :D
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 06 December 2023, 16:30:29
The fence might not appreciate that :D
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 06 December 2023, 16:33:07
The fence might not appreciate that :D

I wasn't thinking of that half of the pavement...  ::)
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 06 December 2023, 16:52:20
Have a look at this

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202306148508681


Then look at its MOT history
The 9 January 2023 Test still covers it ,despite the July fail , very odd
at least it's got 38 less mules on now than 3 July 2023  ;D
it's not just DeLoreans that do time travel  :P
We call them horses in the trade, Dave, not mules  ;D ;D

Talking of horses. Here's the amazing horse! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUl9_5kK9ts)  :)
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 06 December 2023, 17:40:10
That horse is amazing. ;D

Not as magical as Trevor, but amazing nonetheless  :D
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 06 December 2023, 18:27:38
....
Frank Cannon drove a Lincoln Continental. Could you be tempted? :D :D ;)

I can't find a 2 door car like Frank's but how about a 4 door 'sedan'?  ;D
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/QC8AAOSwWqNk8ejS/s-l1600.jpg)

on Autotrader https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/355181490440?hash=item52b2777108:g:onAAAOSwH6lk8eju

That is a fine looking beast.  Especially as TB has portly dimensions that are closer to Boss Hogg than those pesky Duke boys. >:D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Andy B on 06 December 2023, 19:20:06
or maybe a modern day General Lee ..... you'd need bloody deep pockets though!  ;D ;D ;D

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/355181491567?hash=item52b277756f:g:ktoAAOSwA9plAfTY
Obviously, when of a certain age before Daisy Duke became the reason to watch, all my mates an I wanted the General Lee.  Then we simultaneously hit the age that Miss Duke mattered and discovered that yankee muscle cars are universally shite ;D

but they look & sound good  :y :y
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Andy B on 06 December 2023, 19:22:02
...
Talking of horses. Here's the amazing horse! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUl9_5kK9ts)  :)

WTF!!!!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

HTF did you find that?
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: ronnyd on 06 December 2023, 19:49:49
Have a look at this

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202306148508681


Then look at its MOT history
The 9 January 2023 Test still covers it ,despite the July fail , very odd
at least it's got 38 less mules on now than 3 July 2023  ;D
it's not just DeLoreans that do time travel  :P
We call them horses in the trade, Dave, not mules  ;D ;D

Talking of horses. Here's the amazing horse! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUl9_5kK9ts)  :)[/highlight]
Much prefer the badgers.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 06 December 2023, 19:54:08
or maybe a modern day General Lee ..... you'd need bloody deep pockets though!  ;D ;D ;D

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/355181491567?hash=item52b277756f:g:ktoAAOSwA9plAfTY

I'd love to know who buys these things, £145k for a plastic interior and a broken steering wheel.
Or save yourself £80k and import one yourself...

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicle/676645059?allListingType=all-cars&city=Inglewood&firstRecord=25&makeCode=DODGE&modelCode=CHALLENGER&newSearch=false&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fall-cars%2Fdodge%2Fchallenger%2Finglewood-ca%3FfirstRecord%3D25%26isNewSearch%3Dfalse%26sortBy%3DyearDESC%26zip%3D90308&searchRadius=25&sortBy=yearDESC&state=CA&zip=90308&clickType=spotlight
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 06 December 2023, 19:55:31
Have a look at this

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202306148508681


Then look at its MOT history
The 9 January 2023 Test still covers it ,despite the July fail , very odd
at least it's got 38 less mules on now than 3 July 2023  ;D
it's not just DeLoreans that do time travel  :P
We call them horses in the trade, Dave, not mules  ;D ;D

Talking of horses. Here's the amazing horse! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUl9_5kK9ts)  :)[/highlight]
Much prefer the badgers.
Growling at badgers is one of my favourite ways to while away an afternoon... Or morning or night or weekend >:D
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 06 December 2023, 20:38:02
Have a look at this

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202306148508681


Then look at its MOT history
The 9 January 2023 Test still covers it ,despite the July fail , very odd
at least it's got 38 less mules on now than 3 July 2023  ;D
it's not just DeLoreans that do time travel  :P
We call them horses in the trade, Dave, not mules  ;D ;D

Talking of horses. Here's the amazing horse! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUl9_5kK9ts)  :)[/highlight]
Much prefer the badgers.
Growling at badgers is one of my favourite ways to while away an afternoon... Or morning or night or weekend >:D

Just the ginger growler of Angela Rayner float your boat? ::)
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 06 December 2023, 21:49:57
If it shuts the gobby mare up...
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: TheBoy on 07 December 2023, 13:53:20
Just do it and park it half up on the pavement outside your house.  :y   Like every one else does!  ::)   :D
Trouble is, because they already do*, there ain't room.


*bloody planning rules. Never enough parking space, so the (narrow) estate roads get blocked up with cars, so delivery wagons and fire engines can't get through.  I half heartedly looked at a 4 bed house on the new estate near me.  Room for 2 cars off-street.  The 3 bed ones had room for 1 car.  These families are going to have little brats that will want cars when they reach 17.

Admittedly my road is different.  We have more space, but generally parking cars behind each other in a line.  Most of the street are too bone idle to move cars about so abandon all but 1 onto the street, then get shitty when there is no room left in the street for a) parking, b) driving along it.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: TheBoy on 07 December 2023, 13:56:20
Anyway, no further forward in my quest.

I have ruled out the full EV thing for at least the next few years.  But no further forward otherwise.  Unless I rule out the MPG thing, then Opti's old car would be worthy of consideration, or maybe a proper XJR 575....
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: YZ250 on 07 December 2023, 14:18:50
In case you missed my earlier post, I’ll ask again.  :)  Why is an F10 530d not on your list.  :-\ 
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: TheBoy on 07 December 2023, 14:36:24
In case you missed my earlier post, I’ll ask again.  :)  Why is an F10 530d not on your list.  :-\
I struggle with long distances in the 5 series, so was *hoping* I'd be OK with a 7 series, despite the close relationship of their chassis.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: TheBoy on 07 December 2023, 14:37:16
Thats the same reason it must be RWD as well I'm afraid.  FWD has to be too stiff for anything more powerful than a moggie minor.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 07 December 2023, 14:40:32
In case you missed my earlier post, I’ll ask again.  :)  Why is an F10 530d not on your list.  :-\
I struggle with long distances in the 5 series, so was *hoping* I'd be OK with a 7 series, despite the close relationship of their chassis.
The S Class is a better choice than the 7 series, but only with a proper engine.The 5.5 V8 is pretty unbeatable.

But, a mate has an F10 530d and swears by it.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: TheBoy on 07 December 2023, 14:44:26
In case you missed my earlier post, I’ll ask again.  :)  Why is an F10 530d not on your list.  :-\
I struggle with long distances in the 5 series, so was *hoping* I'd be OK with a 7 series, despite the close relationship of their chassis.
The S Class is a better choice than the 7 series, but only with a proper engine.The 5.5 V8 is pretty unbeatable.

But, a mate has an F10 530d and swears by it.
I might moan about the retards who design that french piece of shit in mine, and the retard who signed off packaging it in mine.  But even that is preferrable to any post 1980s Merc.  Hence no Merc was on my list, because I'm not interested in nursing a 40 year old motor.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 07 December 2023, 14:45:55
I wouldn't buy a Jag, so we'll have to agree to disagree  :D
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: TheBoy on 07 December 2023, 14:46:23
Should add the only reason to discount the 5 series is my back injuries cause me issues with them.  Well, that and the fact Mrs TB won't get in it, but I see that as a bonus!
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: TheBoy on 07 December 2023, 14:50:19
I wouldn't buy a Jag, so we'll have to agree to disagree  :D
S'wot makes the world go round.

Although in defence to JLR, they do actually have car designers. Retarded ones, admittedly.  Merc just have kids with crayons (a near direct quote from one of my Bro's who used to have to help AMG because Merc didn't have a clue about how to actually design a car, and just threw boxes of components at it until they met a predefined criteria.  Still, it did mean I occasionally got a go in a lot of experimental AMG stuff, most of which never came to market because it simply wasn't fixable.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: YZ250 on 07 December 2023, 14:51:35
In case you missed my earlier post, I’ll ask again.  :)  Why is an F10 530d not on your list.  :-\
I struggle with long distances in the 5 series, so was *hoping* I'd be OK with a 7 series, despite the close relationship of their chassis.

Fair do’s.
I used to do the Cornwall run (approximately 300 miles) in one hit in my beemers (all of which were M Sports) and always felt ok when I arrived.  :y  Migrating from my 3.2 to my A6 however took some time to become truly comfortable. It’s like a mobile armchair to me now though, but took a few weeks of adjustment to feel happy again.  :y
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 07 December 2023, 14:59:15
Should add the only reason to discount the 5 series is my back injuries cause me issues with them.  Well, that and the fact Mrs TB won't get in it, but I see that as a bonus!
The issue with buying second hand is you're at the mercy of the person that ordered it. Even the E39 was available with the seats from the E38 750, but I think I have only seen four cars with those seats fitted.

Ultimately you're trying very hard to talk yourself into another Jag, but it's a fools errand.

You need something to cleanse the Omega from your soul. Something so mundane and incomparable that the car that replaces it will be a breath of fresh air.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312054561267
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: TheBoy on 07 December 2023, 15:02:22
I used to do the Cornwall run (approximately 300 miles) in one hit in my beemers (all of which were M Sports) and always felt ok when I arrived.  :y  Migrating from my 3.2 to my A6 however took some time to become truly comfortable. It’s like a mobile armchair to me now though, but took a few weeks of adjustment to feel happy again.  :y
I never stop if I can get away with it, and certainly not just the little jaunt to St Ives/Hayle we often go.  She is very firmly told before we set off to ensure she isn't going to need any facilities en-route...   ...although coming back from Cornwall a couple of weeks back getting stuck on the M5 near Worcester for over 90 minutes fully tested her bladder control ;D.  And mine, if I'm honest!  But she still had to wait until I'd finished teh M5, M42, M40 and A422 to Brakkers ;D
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: TheBoy on 07 December 2023, 15:05:25
The issue with buying second hand is you're at the mercy of the person that ordered it. Even the E39 was available with the seats from the E38
750, but I think I have only seen four cars with those seats fitted.
Its not the seats (I think), its the chassis tuning.

You need something to cleanse the Omega from your soul. Something so mundane and incomparable that the car that replaces it will be a breath of fresh air.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312054561267
I'm fairly sure they are FWD.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: YZ250 on 07 December 2023, 15:05:41
Should add the only reason to discount the 5 series is my back injuries cause me issues with them.  Well, that and the fact Mrs TB won't get in it, but I see that as a bonus!

Do as I do on long holiday runs …...err, I mean what I used to do.  ::)  Travel at night at very high speeds and you’ll get there in half the time, thus spending less time in the vehicle.  :y
I think you and Mrs TB know in your hearts that the 530d is a great choice but are too embarrassed to admit it after slagging off BMW’s.  ;D ;)
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: TheBoy on 07 December 2023, 15:08:27
And, Al, I'm not really brand loyal.  Granted have a pre 2012-ish GM product or pre 2019-ish JLR product has benefits when doing DIY diagnosis, which is a consideration....

...although Gixer is (unintentionally) talking me into an all-in lease of whatever shitbox gets closest to me requirements ;D
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: TheBoy on 07 December 2023, 15:11:01
are too embarrassed to admit it after slagging off BMW’s.  ;D ;)
Beemers in these parts are now rare as rocking horse shite.  I bet I see more Mundanos than Beemers round here.  Rarity of a model gives it a bit of kudos in my book, as long as not so rare you can't get bits when I break it :y

Every useless idiot around here drives Mercs.  Suspect that the F1 place has a deal for friends and family.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: TheBoy on 07 December 2023, 15:12:06
Thats not quite what I typed.  Somebody been messing with that censor again ;D
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 07 December 2023, 15:29:55
Thats not quite what I typed.  Somebody been messing with that censor again ;D
;D
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 07 December 2023, 15:37:15
I know the Camry is wwd, and as dull as dishwater, but that's the whole point. ;) but it should meet your other requirements in a get the job done kind of way, and they're more economical than you might think.

Going from the 3.2 to a Focus saloon to an E39 to a £400 2.2 Omega estate to an A Class and finally an S was quite a cathartic process. In fact that list cost about £2k combined. ;D

The only reason for the R Class was parent transport requirements and the current S is a step forward from that.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: TheBoy on 07 December 2023, 15:41:11
Al, you're missing the point that for health reasons, I really cannot have FWD.  I can manage them for short journeys, usually, hence foreign little shitboxes you pick up from the airport are doable.  But more than about 40 miles, especially as the driver, I really can't do :(
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 07 December 2023, 15:54:16
Perhaps I am :-\

I get that a Yaris or Aygo or Adam might be considered a shit box and uncomfortable to get to the end of the drive, and you'll note that I didn't suggest such a car... the Camry isn't a small car. ???

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312054561267

Without prying, (we all have issues), and bearing the above in mind...I don't understand how wwd is health related  :-\

As an aside, SE spec BMWs are notably softer than the M Sport/full fat M siblings.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 07 December 2023, 16:23:20
Oh and from experience, it will do 40+ MP/G US, so the advertised 53.1mpg isn't unrealistic.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: ronnyd on 07 December 2023, 17:05:42
Should add the only reason to discount the 5 series is my back injuries cause me issues with them.  Well, that and the fact Mrs TB won't get in it, but I see that as a bonus!

Do as I do on long holiday runs …...err, I mean what I used to do.  ::) Travel at night at very high speeds and you’ll get there in half the time, thus spending less time in the vehicle.  :y
I think you and Mrs TB know in your hearts that the 530d is a great choice but are too embarrassed to admit it after slagging off BMW’s.  ;D ;)

Only trouble with that these days, is most roadworks are overnight jobs now.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: YZ250 on 07 December 2023, 17:38:13
Should add the only reason to discount the 5 series is my back injuries cause me issues with them.  Well, that and the fact Mrs TB won't get in it, but I see that as a bonus!

Do as I do on long holiday runs …...err, I mean what I used to do.  ::) Travel at night at very high speeds and you’ll get there in half the time, thus spending less time in the vehicle.  :y
I think you and Mrs TB know in your hearts that the 530d is a great choice but are too embarrassed to admit it after slagging off BMW’s.  ;D ;)

Only trouble with that these days, is most roadworks are overnight jobs now.

 Very true.  :y
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Andy B on 07 December 2023, 18:32:39
I can recommend a ML on Airmatic  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 07 December 2023, 18:47:46
Perhaps I am :-\

I get that a Yaris or Aygo or Adam might be considered a shit box and uncomfortable to get to the end of the drive, and you'll note that I didn't suggest such a car... the Camry isn't a small car. ???

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312054561267

Without prying, (we all have issues), and bearing the above in mind...I don't understand how wwd is health related  :-\

As an aside, SE spec BMWs are notably softer than the M Sport/full fat M siblings.

Quite an imposing car in an 'ugly as f*uck' sort of way. :)
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 07 December 2023, 19:25:11
Yep, its utterly hideous to aesthetically.  :)
Although most cars are these days. ::)
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 07 December 2023, 19:29:05
Should add the only reason to discount the 5 series is my back injuries cause me issues with them.  Well, that and the fact Mrs TB won't get in it, but I see that as a bonus!
The issue with buying second hand is you're at the mercy of the person that ordered it. Even the E39 was available with the seats from the E38 750, but I think I have only seen four cars with those seats fitted.

Ultimately you're trying very hard to talk yourself into another Jag, but it's a fools errand.

You need something to cleanse the Omega from your soul. Something so mundane and incomparable that the car that replaces it will be a breath of fresh air.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202309061604009?sort=relevance&make=Nissan&model=Micra&postcode=DT73NB&advertising-location=at_cars&fromsra

Yes I agree. TB needs a complete reset and I have changed your link to something more suitable for TB reset purposes.  :y
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 07 December 2023, 19:34:16
Now that really is a shit box, wwd or not ;D
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: YZ250 on 07 December 2023, 19:54:36
Now that really is a shit box, wwd or not ;D

 ;D ;D ;D :y
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Varche on 07 December 2023, 20:27:01
If you could live with left hand drive why not import a good example low kilometrage Omega from the continent?

There  are three 50k miles example for about £7000  in Germany( suchen .mobile.de website)I could put you in touch with the chap at Specialist vehicles who imported ours.

LHD wouldnt be for everyone! Overtaking and car park barriers to name just two but maybe Convert it to RHD?

An Omega from further South might be even better but low mileage jobs are harder tocome by in Spain in my experience and often do not have any service history at all. My local garage was gobsmacked when I insisted on him filling in the logbook.

Might be a bit retro but a low mileage high spec 3.0 Opel Omega would do the job……
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: ronnyd on 07 December 2023, 22:30:34
Perhaps I am :-\

I get that a Yaris or Aygo or Adam might be considered a shit box and uncomfortable to get to the end of the drive, and you'll note that I didn't suggest such a car... the Camry isn't a small car. ???

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312054561267

Without prying, (we all have issues), and bearing the above in mind...I don't understand how wwd is health related  :-\

As an aside, SE spec BMWs are notably softer than the M Sport/full fat M siblings.

Quite an imposing car in an 'ugly as f*uck' sort of way. :)
Christ! That grille.  :o
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Rangie on 07 December 2023, 22:40:55
Perhaps I am :-\

I get that a Yaris or Aygo or Adam might be considered a shit box and uncomfortable to get to the end of the drive, and you'll note that I didn't suggest such a car... the Camry isn't a small car. ???

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312054561267

Without prying, (we all have issues), and bearing the above in mind...I don't understand how wwd is health related  :-\

As an aside, SE spec BMWs are notably softer than the M Sport/full fat M siblings.

Quite an imposing car in an 'ugly as f*uck' sort of way. :)
Christ! That grille.  :o
.

That's one awful looking vehicle, was the designer on cocaine?
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 07 December 2023, 22:44:47
Talking of shit boxes, some dickhead in Chichester Licencing department allowed someone to licence a BMW 1 series hatch as a private hire vehicle  :o
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 07 December 2023, 23:01:01
Yep, its utterly hideous to aesthetically.  :)
Although most cars are these days. ::)
Credit to the designers,.the whole car is a bit more interesting to look at than previous models >:D

I have a bit of a roadtrip planned for March in one of those. Whilst the Charger saloon or Challenger would perhaps be more appropriate, it would most likely be a 3.6 not the hemi and they're relatively shit on fuel compared to the Camry... And in the terms of the planned trip, that's the difference between sleeping in a really nice hotel or the car halfway through :-X
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: TheBoy on 08 December 2023, 08:15:15
If you could live with left hand drive why not import a good example low kilometrage Omega from the continent?

There  are three 50k miles example for about £7000  in Germany( suchen .mobile.de website)I could put you in touch with the chap at Specialist vehicles who imported ours.

LHD wouldnt be for everyone! Overtaking and car park barriers to name just two but maybe Convert it to RHD?

An Omega from further South might be even better but low mileage jobs are harder tocome by in Spain in my experience and often do not have any service history at all. My local garage was gobsmacked when I insisted on him filling in the logbook.

Might be a bit retro but a low mileage high spec 3.0 Opel Omega would do the job……
I didn't think to put in the requirements, must be RHD. I kinda let that be an assumption, as I haven't taken a car abroad since 2019....
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Nick W on 08 December 2023, 09:57:22
Perhaps I am :-\

I get that a Yaris or Aygo or Adam might be considered a shit box and uncomfortable to get to the end of the drive, and you'll note that I didn't suggest such a car... the Camry isn't a small car. ???

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312054561267

Without prying, (we all have issues), and bearing the above in mind...I don't understand how wwd is health related  :-\

As an aside, SE spec BMWs are notably softer than the M Sport/full fat M siblings.

Quite an imposing car in an 'ugly as f*uck' sort of way. :)
Christ! That grille.  :o


Have you looked at a recent BMW, Ford or Audi recently?
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: TheBoy on 08 December 2023, 09:59:04
I drive a pig ugly car.  The last of the XJs had an arse even a mother couldn't love.  But as Mrs TB points out, I don't have to look at it when sat in the car.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Nick W on 08 December 2023, 10:13:16
  The last of the XJs had an arse even a mother couldn't love. 




That was a traditional Jaguar styling idea. Look at a mkX, mk2, 420G or E-type
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 08 December 2023, 12:15:43
  The last of the XJs had an arse even a mother couldn't love. 




That was a traditional Jaguar styling idea. Look at a mkX, mk2, 420G or E-type

Are they not one and the same?
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: ronnyd on 08 December 2023, 19:33:12
Perhaps I am :-\

I get that a Yaris or Aygo or Adam might be considered a shit box and uncomfortable to get to the end of the drive, and you'll note that I didn't suggest such a car... the Camry isn't a small car. ???

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312054561267

Without prying, (we all have issues), and bearing the above in mind...I don't understand how wwd is health related  :-\

As an aside, SE spec BMWs are notably softer than the M Sport/full fat M siblings.

Quite an imposing car in an 'ugly as f*uck' sort of way. :)
Christ! That grille.  :o


Have you looked at a recent BMW, Ford or Audi recently?
There also seems to be a law that all EVs must all be ugly.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Andy B on 08 December 2023, 22:22:41
....
That was a traditional Jaguar styling idea. Look at a mkX, mk2, 420G or E-type

Are they not one and the same?
[/quote]

Effectively yes ....  :y Beautiful car!
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Rangie on 09 December 2023, 08:03:21
My first boss had a Mk10 Jaguar lovely car & I remember looking at a 1964 model on a car lot just after I passed my driving test in 1971 the price was £335 a bit to much at the time, so I bought a1964 PB Velox for £130 .
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 09 December 2023, 12:18:42
My first boss had a Mk10 Jaguar lovely car & I remember looking at a 1964 model on a car lot just after I passed my driving test in 1971 the price was £335 a bit to much at the time, so I bought a1964 PB Velox for £130 .

I believe the Kray twins were fond of a MK10.

Big boot to dispose of Jack the Hat, and his ilk. :)
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Rangie on 09 December 2023, 14:33:43
My first boss had a Mk10 Jaguar lovely car & I remember looking at a 1964 model on a car lot just after I passed my driving test in 1971 the price was £335 a bit to much at the time, so I bought a1964 PB Velox for £130 .

I believe the Kray twins were fond of a MK10.

Big boot to dispose of Jack the Hat, and his ilk. :)
.

The dash in them was beautiful, the sound of it starting up was sheer class.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: countrywoman on 09 December 2023, 15:51:25
And they had an E type spec engine, road tested one once and forgot to look in the mirror before booting it. Left the car coming past for dead!!!
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Andy B on 09 December 2023, 16:55:46
Quite respectable performance figures for the day ..... not sure you'd want to run it today at 15mpg  :-\

https://www.gbclassiccars.co.uk/jaguar_mkx.html
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Rangie on 09 December 2023, 17:48:20
Quite respectable performance figures for the day ..... not sure you'd want to run it today at 15mpg  :-\

https://www.gbclassiccars.co.uk/jaguar_mkx.html
.

I think petrol was around 38 pence a gallon when I started driving in 1971 so didn't even come into consideration, the guy I worked for was a market trader & always had wads of cash I used to get around 20-30 quid a week which seemed a fortune to me back then
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 09 December 2023, 18:32:19
Quite respectable performance figures for the day ..... not sure you'd want to run it today at 15mpg  :-\

https://www.gbclassiccars.co.uk/jaguar_mkx.html

120+ MPH was hot snot back in the early sixties.

The Anglia and Austin  1100 were pretty much on their knees above 70 MPH.

Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Rangie on 09 December 2023, 19:07:41
Quite respectable performance figures for the day ..... not sure you'd want to run it today at 15mpg  :-\

https://www.gbclassiccars.co.uk/jaguar_mkx.html

120+ MPH was hot snot back in the early sixties.

The Anglia and Austin  1100 were pretty much on their knees above 70 MPH.
.


I seem to remember reading once about a 3.4 Jag leaving the longest skid marks on the M1 in the sixties, reported to have been travelling at over 100 mph.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: YZ250 on 10 December 2023, 14:16:22
Quite respectable performance figures for the day ..... not sure you'd want to run it today at 15mpg  :-\

https://www.gbclassiccars.co.uk/jaguar_mkx.html

120+ MPH was hot snot back in the early sixties.

The Anglia and Austin  1100 were pretty much on their knees above 70 MPH.
.


I seem to remember reading once about a 3.4 Jag leaving the longest skid marks on the M1 in the sixties, reported to have been travelling at over 100 mph.

 :y 1960 . Skid marks of 290 metres (950ft) at the scene!  Good effort by that driver.  ;D
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 10 December 2023, 14:19:04
Quite respectable performance figures for the day ..... not sure you'd want to run it today at 15mpg  :-\

https://www.gbclassiccars.co.uk/jaguar_mkx.html

120+ MPH was hot snot back in the early sixties.

The Anglia and Austin  1100 were pretty much on their knees above 70 MPH.
.


I seem to remember reading once about a 3.4 Jag leaving the longest skid marks on the M1 in the sixties, reported to have been travelling at over 100 mph.

Quite possible. No speed limits on the motorways before the ginger non-driver Barbara Castle decided to bring an end to the fun in 1967.

It was quite common for motoring magazines to test the top speed of cars such as the E-Type and Aston Marin DB4/5 on the M1 in the wee small hours. Perfectly legal. :)
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Rangie on 10 December 2023, 14:53:45
I remember my father driving our Jag down to Brighton on evening I must have been about 11 or 12 he got up to about 110 mph ,it was my mother's shouting that got him to slow down. 😅
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 10 December 2023, 14:59:17
The factories also used the M1 for performance testing. Those were the days.  8)
The 70mph limit didnt apply in Norn Irn until the mid 70,s. Just before I got on the road.
Maybe they knew I was coming.  :D


Not that I took any notice anyway. No speed cameras or assorted nonsense. If the cops decided to chase you it was a sport.
If they didnt catch you it was fair enough, and they would try again next time.
They did catch me a few times in my teens, which resulted in (iirc) 5 court appearances on 12 charges.
All of the motoring variety I might add.
Never got caught doing anything criminal. My Uncle Sammy ( a lifelong dodgy wee bastard) told me very early " if you cant be good, be careful".  ;D
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: YZ250 on 10 December 2023, 15:21:19
Anyway, back on track, Audi Quattro C7 3.0V6 BiTdi. It has the ZF 8 speed auto box so no S-Tronic / Multitronic dual clutch to fret about, 320 ponies and good mpg. With a remap it’ll whizz past the removed electronic limiter …. hmm… err…. allegedly.  ::)
Just make sure that its had the timing chain and gears replaced if over 60-70K on the clock, as it’s quite an expensive* job and not really a diy job on the drive.  :)

*Expensive as in £4K expensive.  ;D

Oh, scrap that suggestion, I’ve just seen that Audi are on Mrs TB’s ‘tw*ts’ list.  ;D
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 10 December 2023, 15:28:26
Not to mention that it's actually wwd with an intermittent rear axle, even though the engine mounting is deceptive. And let's not forget the engine was clearly designed by three people in different rooms. Nor that it will split across the front of the rear seat cross member if you're unlucky enough to have a serious prang in it.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: YZ250 on 10 December 2023, 15:30:48
Not to mention that it's actually wwd with an intermittent rear axle, even though the engine mounting is deceptive. And let's not forget the engine was clearly designed by three people in different rooms. Not that it will split across the front of the rear seat cross member if you're unlucky enough to have a serious prang in it.

I knew I could count on your support for my suggestion.  ;D  :y
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 10 December 2023, 15:40:31
Not to mention that it's actually wwd with an intermittent rear axle, even though the engine mounting is deceptive. And let's not forget the engine was clearly designed by three people in different rooms. Not that it will split across the front of the rear seat cross member if you're unlucky enough to have a serious prang in it.

I knew I could count on your support for my suggestion.  ;D  :y
You're welcome >:D
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 10 December 2023, 15:58:24
People forget that there are decent cars out there that aren't almost new.

You may as well set a budget and choose how long you're going to keep the car for (ideally). Say £6k over 2 years.

Set out your criteria and buy something for about £4k that ticks the boxes.

The rules are pretty simple...if the mpg or drivetrain aren't available within the budget, you can't buy it. And if you find a car that ticks the boxes, buy it and then decide that you simply can't stand the way you have to refill the screen wash,. that's fine, but you have to include it in the cost of the next car if it falls within the two years. The whole budget can be used but keeping some back for contingencies isn't a bad idea. But this shouldn't include wear/tear or maintenance costs.

£4k will put you into most anything you can think of.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: TheBoy on 10 December 2023, 18:03:33
Say £6k over 2 years.
Blimey! I'm clearly not as rich as you ;D.  Not much more than that I think would put me in a new iPace.  Though the range of said item would piss me off.  Could I live with the range when factored against if it breaks a man in a posh garage picks it up, fixes it, and drops it off?


Possibly not.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 10 December 2023, 18:31:52
Search Autotrader with £4k as a max price and it will get you into pretty much anything you can think of.

That' number/time frame is a suggestion, obviously keeping the car longer keeps the perceived cost down, and the idea is to pay cash.

Sure you can lease something for £250 a month but you'll throw away the (x thousand £) deposit every time you change car. And if you don't buy an unreliable poorly designed POS, you're unlikely to require the warranty, which is about the only reason to buy/lease a new car.

Let's say your current car is paid for but you spend £80 a week/£345 a month on fuel.

Let's say you find something that uses half the fuel, £172.50 a month, and it costs you £250 a month to lease/buy what have you actually gained?

The answer is obviously nothing.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: TheBoy on 10 December 2023, 21:09:23
Sure you can lease something for £250 a month but you'll throw away the (x thousand £) deposit every time you change car. And if you don't buy an unreliable poorly designed POS, you're unlikely to require the warranty, which is about the only reason to buy/lease a new car.
The schemes I was (half heartedly) considering have no deposit/initial payment.  That would fast become expensive!

The biggest benefit is not having to worry about fixing the bloody thing :y
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: zirk on 10 December 2023, 22:30:52

RWD
Auto


Last time I bought a RWD it was only 600cc and and had some cylinders missing, did have Merc written on the tiny engine though.  :-\

On a more serious note, I wouldnt rule out a Lexus model, I ended up by accident driving about in a  run around iS200 for over a year,  and have to admit it did change my views on them, OK, So there's the Name involved, but they are basically a well designed Toyota with all the useful bits added on,  and have bloody good reliability, no experience of the Diesel versions though.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 10 December 2023, 22:47:59
Sure you can lease something for £250 a month but you'll throw away the (x thousand £) deposit every time you change car. And if you don't buy an unreliable poorly designed POS, you're unlikely to require the warranty, which is about the only reason to buy/lease a new car.
The schemes I was (half heartedly) considering have no deposit/initial payment.  That would fast become expensive!

The biggest benefit is not having to worry about fixing the bloody thing :y
Choosing more carefully would solve that issue >:D especially when the mechanical shortcomings are well documented.

But a no lump sum scheme would be so restrictive in mileage caps that they are almost unusable. And you'll be stuck with getting it maintained at a main dealer (right to repair notwithstanding, the contractual stipulation will dictate where it's serviced).
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: TheBoy on 11 December 2023, 13:38:27

RWD
Auto


Last time I bought a RWD it was only 600cc and and had some cylinders missing, did have Merc written on the tiny engine though.  :-\

On a more serious note, I wouldnt rule out a Lexus model, I ended up by accident driving about in a  run around iS200 for over a year,  and have to admit it did change my views on them, OK, So there's the Name involved, but they are basically a well designed Toyota with all the useful bits added on,  and have bloody good reliability, no experience of the Diesel versions though.
I very nearly bought an iS200 several years ago.  I like the look of them, and some of them are pretty rapid, and the handling is not to shabby.  But I found them far too narrow inside, my passenger (the owner) was having to lean against the door so I wasn't doing man-touch every time I chagned gear.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: TheBoy on 11 December 2023, 13:40:02
But a no lump sum scheme would be so restrictive in mileage caps that they are almost unusable. And you'll be stuck with getting it maintained at a main dealer (right to repair notwithstanding, the contractual stipulation will dictate where it's serviced).
The schemes I'm looking at aren't particularly restrictive on miles - identical in fact to what I tell my insurance.  Also, the schemes are all inclusive, so I only have to fuel the buggers, and on some of them, insure them.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 11 December 2023, 13:58:53
But a no lump sum scheme would be so restrictive in mileage caps that they are almost unusable. And you'll be stuck with getting it maintained at a main dealer (right to repair notwithstanding, the contractual stipulation will dictate where it's serviced).
The schemes I'm looking at aren't particularly restrictive on miles - identical in fact to what I tell my insurance.  Also, the schemes are all inclusive, so I only have to fuel the buggers, and on some of them, insure them.
Fair enough, I guess then it boils down to whether you can live with whatever is on offer for those terms and do so for the length of the lease  :-\
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: TheBoy on 11 December 2023, 14:25:08
But a no lump sum scheme would be so restrictive in mileage caps that they are almost unusable. And you'll be stuck with getting it maintained at a main dealer (right to repair notwithstanding, the contractual stipulation will dictate where it's serviced).
The schemes I'm looking at aren't particularly restrictive on miles - identical in fact to what I tell my insurance.  Also, the schemes are all inclusive, so I only have to fuel the buggers, and on some of them, insure them.
Fair enough, I guess then it boils down to whether you can live with whatever is on offer for those terms and do so for the length of the lease  :-\
They aren't bad deals, its just I'm not sure I can get my head around paying £2-3k a year (for the minimum I could tolerate), and not actually owning it.  Obviously a decent proportion of that would come from not paying for bits on mine - I've spent well over a grand on tyres this year for example.

Plus it seems the best deals I can get are on milk floats - because nobody wants them - and neither I or the country are ready for that sort of thing yet.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Nick W on 11 December 2023, 14:25:41

RWD
Auto


Last time I bought a RWD it was only 600cc and and had some cylinders missing, did have Merc written on the tiny engine though.  :-\

On a more serious note, I wouldn't rule out a Lexus model, I ended up by accident driving about in a  run around iS200 for over a year,  and have to admit it did change my views on them, OK, So there's the Name involved, but they are basically a well designed Toyota with all the useful bits added on,  and have bloody good reliability, no experience of the Diesel versions though.
I very nearly bought an iS200 several years ago.  I like the look of them, and some of them are pretty rapid, and the handling is not to shabby.  But I found them far too narrow inside, my passenger (the owner) was having to lean against the door so I wasn't doing man-touch every time I chagned gear.


Give it a few more months and you'll be old enough to appreciate the appeal of an LS430(460? 1564748? whatever they are now) Get one in gold with the age-appropriate diarrhea coloured interior for the full effect :y
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: TheBoy on 11 December 2023, 14:28:14

RWD
Auto


Last time I bought a RWD it was only 600cc and and had some cylinders missing, did have Merc written on the tiny engine though.  :-\

On a more serious note, I wouldn't rule out a Lexus model, I ended up by accident driving about in a  run around iS200 for over a year,  and have to admit it did change my views on them, OK, So there's the Name involved, but they are basically a well designed Toyota with all the useful bits added on,  and have bloody good reliability, no experience of the Diesel versions though.
I very nearly bought an iS200 several years ago.  I like the look of them, and some of them are pretty rapid, and the handling is not to shabby.  But I found them far too narrow inside, my passenger (the owner) was having to lean against the door so I wasn't doing man-touch every time I chagned gear.


Give it a few more months and you'll be old enough to appreciate the appeal of an LS430(460? 1564748? whatever they are now) Get one in gold with the age-appropriate diarrhea coloured interior for the full effect :y
Thats the trouble with the bigger Lexus - I looked at one (would it have been an LS400?) before I bought my last Omega, and have been scarred for life ;D

The iS200 though, if it were for the cramped interior, I would have had one of those years ago :y
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 11 December 2023, 15:13:47
Size wise the IS2/300 is basically a rwd Focus. The LS is a much larger proposition. And their interiors are significantly better than the '90s offerings.

I could never decide which S Class to go for when I started driving (and went with a MK2 Granada because that obviously made sense ;D)... I still really like the W116, traditional old school Merc, but the W126 that followed offered more toys in a more modern body. Then again the W140 offered yet more toys and a significant improvement in drivetrains.

The W220 S280 that I got just before TCV was my first S Class and ticked most boxes.

I think the W221 S Class is probably the perfect generation. Although, if a rust free W116 popped up with knackered Bosch CIS, then it would make a good candidate for dropping the M113 V8 into >:D but I digress ::)

I don't think there's such a thing as the perfect car, but there are those that are the right car at that moment in time for a person's specific needs. Trouble is the Omega was almost too good for its own good and the only genuine alternatives are the 5 Series or E Class, but they're both different in what they offer.

If the XJ is by and large sorted for a couple of years, then you may as well hang onto it. New cars aren't anything like as durable as 200-2010 ones, and unfortunately for JLR, Ford was a strong advocate of the idea of using plastic for anything that could be heatsoaked and the newest stuff is unnecessarily tech heavy and not designed to last. There's a reason you can't get the latest software on an older iPhone and cars are no different.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 13 December 2023, 12:22:21
Speaking of Mercedes.

The one that floats my boat best is the 'cold war' 300SEL 6.3 from the late sixties and early seventies.

Still enough performance even today to blow away a hot hatch or two.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: TheBoy on 13 December 2023, 14:08:35
Me neighbour just got an old E-Class, probably a W210 (I can't be bothered remembering model codes) as a guess.  Every bloody morning I hear him trying to start it ;D.  Feels like the sound of the 1970s all over again!

Sadly, he's had to get shot of his Alfa :(
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 13 December 2023, 15:53:20
The W210 is the first of the bobble eyed ones.

If it's a diesel then the needs to get the glow plugs working. If it's petrol it should start first crank.

If it's older, W124, then it's probably Bosch CIS, in which case... ;D
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: TheBoy on 13 December 2023, 18:08:02
The W210 is the first of the bobble eyed ones.

If it's a diesel then the needs to get the glow plugs working. If it's petrol it should start first crank.

If it's older, W124, then it's probably Bosch CIS, in which case... ;D
It's the double lights thing that makes the Scorpio look almost handsome.  And its petrol.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 13 December 2023, 18:37:11
The W210 is the first of the bobble eyed ones.

If it's a diesel then the needs to get the glow plugs working. If it's petrol it should start first crank.

If it's older, W124, then it's probably Bosch CIS, in which case... ;D
It's the double lights thing that makes the Scorpio look almost handsome.  And its petrol.
Oh dear... still, it should start first crank  :-\
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: STEMO on 13 December 2023, 19:55:28
This one has a few miles under it: ;D ;D

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202309131927115
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 13 December 2023, 22:01:51
This one has a few miles under it: ;D ;D

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202309131927115

Love the presumably auto generated note under the mileage!  ;D

How it compares

This vehicle has done 1,017,393 more miles than the average diesel Mercedes-Benz C Class Sport Estate registered in May 2008, compared to similar vehicles on Auto Trader.

Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: TheBoy on 14 December 2023, 08:41:45
I'm guessing thats fat fingers, and out by a factor of 10.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Rangie on 14 December 2023, 08:45:17
They missed out " never been used as a taxi" 😂😂
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Viral_Jim on 14 December 2023, 11:16:17
This one has a few miles under it: ;D ;D

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202309131927115

Amazing that its managed to run, without a service for 900k.  ;D
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Rangie on 14 December 2023, 14:54:08
Just been watching Hagerty classic car auctions from last Saturday on YouTube,lovely black 2.5 Omega Elite 1 owner V reg full history 47,000 miles cambelt at 43,000 miles estimate 2500-3500 saw it go as far as £1700 then I had to go out I'll be interested to see what it made. Does look very nice in the pictures.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Rangie on 14 December 2023, 17:29:58
Sold for £2550.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Andy B on 15 December 2023, 14:32:40
How about a 'restored' Austin All-Agro?  ;D ;D

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/176083809013

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nD-dN5iSgD4

Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 15 December 2023, 17:19:51
How about a 'restored' Austin All-Agro?  ;D ;D

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/176083809013

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nD-dN5iSgD4

The VP version is a good looking car..... ;D
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 15 December 2023, 18:15:49
How about a 'restored' Austin All-Agro?  ;D ;D

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/176083809013

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nD-dN5iSgD4

The VP version is a good looking car..... ;D
In what universe? ;D
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: YZ250 on 15 December 2023, 20:28:10
How about a 'restored' Austin All-Agro?  ;D ;D

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/176083809013

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nD-dN5iSgD4

The VP version is a good looking car..... ;D
In what universe? ;D

A deluded one.   ;D
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Andy B on 15 December 2023, 20:45:25
How about a 'restored' Austin All-Agro?  ;D ;D

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/176083809013

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nD-dN5iSgD4

The VP version is a good looking car..... ;D
In what universe? ;D

A deluded one.   ;D

The only All-Agro that looks worse is a VDP estate in Russet brown!   ;D
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 15 December 2023, 20:57:25
How about a 'restored' Austin All-Agro?  ;D ;D

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/176083809013

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nD-dN5iSgD4

The VP version is a good looking car..... ;D
In what universe? ;D

The universe where Ann Widdecombe is a babe. ;D
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: TheBoy on 16 December 2023, 10:21:44
The universe where Ann Widdecombe is a babe. ;D
Are you suggesting she is not one for the Wank Bank?

:o
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 16 December 2023, 12:19:10
The universe where Ann Widdecombe is a babe. ;D
Are you suggesting she is not one for the Wank Bank?

:o

Not even after 15 pints of 'wifebeater' and access to unlimited white powder. ;D
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 16 December 2023, 15:31:35
The universe where Ann Widdecombe is a babe. ;D
Are you suggesting she is not one for the Wank Bank?

:o

Not even after 15 pints of 'wifebeater' and access to unlimited white powder. ;D
Sit on the fence why don't you :D
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: tunnie on 18 December 2023, 15:44:28
Perusing Autotrader, can't find anything that fits.

Large saloon
RWD
Auto
200+ BHP
£10kish for sub 10yr 100k miles example
40+ mpg capable day to day

I think my choices are:
BMW 7 Series - too many reliability issues, and struggle to fit in budget for a 100k mile example
Merc S class - a remotely acceptable one is 30+ years old.
Lexus (anything) - too narrow/cramped
Kia Stinger - could prove expensive as pattern parts and info hard to get
Infiniti - couldn't live with interior


Any other pearls of wisdom?

Thanks to ULEZ this is my choice back into a RWD, which fits some of your list.

Large saloon Medium saloon
RWD
Auto
200+ BHP 300+bhp

£10kish for sub 10yr 100k miles example

40+ mpg capable day to day

BMW 435i 3.0 Petrol - 302bhp out of the factory. Huge amount of diesels but very few petrols, this one someone ticked the options list.

- Head Up Display
- Active Headlights
- Harmon Kardon Sound
- Memory Seats
- Camera/Pro Nav
- Storage Pack (yes there is one!)
- MSport Pack. (different alloys, factory rear tints and lights under the door handles)

(https://i.postimg.cc/pdH5zkfJ/Back.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/cLY8vPnJ/Badge.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/KYDkNLQS/Side.jpg)

On a long blast at some typical outside lane BMW speeds and it's mpg is quite impressive.

(https://i.postimg.cc/15bq5y4T/Trip1.jpg)

And on the commute into the smoke, it's not bad either. Even better when you factor in diesel is often more than petrol.

(https://i.postimg.cc/QxF73FN1/Trip22.jpg)

Cost wise it's £0.02 more per mile than my old diesel daddy bus. Worth it though, as now I can actually challenge for those traffic light grand prix wins.

DIY, so far so good. Done oil and filters and its straight forward.

Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 18 December 2023, 16:04:28
Medium is a stretch, looks smart though 8)

Not sure I would have been brave enough to buy from Cargiant though :o
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: YZ250 on 18 December 2023, 16:53:16
…….

Thanks to ULEZ this is my choice back into a RWD, which fits some of your list.


40+ mpg capable day to day

BMW 435i 3.0 Petrol - 302bhp out of the factory. Huge amount of diesels but very few petrols, this one someone ticked the options list.


On a long blast at some typical outside lane BMW speeds and it's mpg is quite impressive.
……..

And on the commute into the smoke, it's not bad either. Even better when you factor in diesel is often more than petrol.
………

Nice motor.  :y
Having had a few 435’s myself (F32 Coupe’s though, not Gran Coupe) I can vouch that they go like a missile.  :y  They’ll hit the electronic speed limiter with ease in the blink of an eye. I had both 435i’s and 435d’s at the same time (his and hers) and although the 435i was overall quicker, the 435d was quicker mid range and returned around 35mpg around town and 48-50mpg on motorway runs. It was a fantastic car to drive but her 435i had to go as she found it too low. As you say, traffic light Grand Prix is much more fun in them.  :y  It’s a cracking engine and gearbox set up.  :y
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Rangie on 18 December 2023, 17:26:17
Very nice & what a great colour 👍
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: tunnie on 18 December 2023, 17:27:06
Medium is a stretch, looks smart though 8)

Not sure I would have been brave enough to buy from Cargiant though :o

Not purchased from Car Giant.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: tunnie on 18 December 2023, 17:29:39
…….

Thanks to ULEZ this is my choice back into a RWD, which fits some of your list.


40+ mpg capable day to day

BMW 435i 3.0 Petrol - 302bhp out of the factory. Huge amount of diesels but very few petrols, this one someone ticked the options list.


On a long blast at some typical outside lane BMW speeds and it's mpg is quite impressive.
……..

And on the commute into the smoke, it's not bad either. Even better when you factor in diesel is often more than petrol.
………
  :):)
Nice motor.  :y
Having had a few 435’s myself (F32 Coupe’s though, not Gran Coupe) I can vouch that they go like a missile.  :y  They’ll hit the electronic speed limiter with ease in the blink of an eye. I had both 435i’s and 435d’s at the same time (his and hers) and although the 435i was overall quicker, the 435d was quicker mid range and returned around 35mpg around town and 48-50mpg on motorway runs. It was a fantastic car to drive but her 435i had to go as she found it too low. As you say, traffic light Grand Prix   B is much more fun in them.  :y  It’s a cracking engine and gearbox set up.  :y


I wanted petrol, the N55 sounds fantastic!

Still have the wife’s Tourer. Fully petrol house again.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: tunnie on 18 December 2023, 17:30:27
Morning start up

 https://youtu.be/0jOFF2e2a9E?si=MZ-Bsv5U_Y4HMhI6 (https://youtu.be/0jOFF2e2a9E?si=MZ-Bsv5U_Y4HMhI6)
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 18 December 2023, 19:29:53
And just like that, Tunnie reappeared like Bobby Ewing stepping out of the shower!  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtfLLVXXpJY

Nice car Tunnie!  :y

Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 18 December 2023, 19:50:36
And just like that, Tunnie reappeared like Bobby Ewing stepping out of the shower!  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtfLLVXXpJY

Nice car Tunnie!  :y

It is nice. :y

I didn't know BMW produced a 302 BHP straight 6 with 302 BHP.

Is it a variation of the B58 lump?
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 18 December 2023, 19:51:11
Sorry N55 lump.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 18 December 2023, 20:26:04
Morning start up

 https://youtu.be/0jOFF2e2a9E?si=MZ-Bsv5U_Y4HMhI6 (https://youtu.be/0jOFF2e2a9E?si=MZ-Bsv5U_Y4HMhI6)


There seems to be a tall ugly bastard trying to nick your car, Tunnie. >:D
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: tunnie on 18 December 2023, 20:49:15
And just like that, Tunnie reappeared like Bobby Ewing stepping out of the shower!  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtfLLVXXpJY

Nice car Tunnie!  :y

Thanks
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: tunnie on 18 December 2023, 20:54:13
And just like that, Tunnie reappeared like Bobby Ewing stepping out of the shower!  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtfLLVXXpJY

Nice car Tunnie!  :y

It is nice. :y

I didn't know BMW produced a 302 BHP straight 6 with 302 BHP.

Is it a variation of the B58 lump?

It’s the  “standard” N55 lump. Not sure exactly but there was M Performance engine upgrade pack which took it to ~325bhp.

Apparently a stage 1 will take it to 360bhp odd.

But to be honest I don’t feel it lacks power as it is!

It’s silky smooth, I really like the power delivery and noise. Head up display is great, music, navigation, speed, etc all displayed on the road in front of you. Active headlights turn on twisty roads and really help. They also block out sections of high beam. So if following a car, it does full beam each side of the car in front.

Looking forward to ditching the run flats and go PS4’s. Told it transforms the car, but I’m already very happy with it. Had it a year now  :y
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 18 December 2023, 21:00:48
Bro had Goodyear F1 Assym Runflats on his F30 330D and swore by them.

Plenty of grip, decent wear and about 20k miles from them.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 18 December 2023, 21:02:01
And just like that, Tunnie reappeared like Bobby Ewing stepping out of the shower!  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtfLLVXXpJY

Nice car Tunnie!  :y

It is nice. :y

I didn't know BMW produced a 302 BHP straight 6 with 302 BHP.

Is it a variation of the B58 lump?

It’s the  “standard” N55 lump. Not sure exactly but there was M Performance engine upgrade pack which took it to ~325bhp.

Apparently a stage 1 will take it to 360bhp odd.

But to be honest I don’t feel it lacks power as it is!

It’s silky smooth, I really like the power delivery and noise. Head up display is great, music, navigation, speed, etc all displayed on the road in front of you. Active headlights turn on twisty roads and really help. They also block out sections of high beam. So if following a car, it does full beam each side of the car in front.

Looking forward to ditching the run flats and go PS4’s. Told it transforms the car, but I’m already very happy with it. Had it a year now  :y

My car came with them as standard and I really can't fault them be it wet or dry.

What year is it?
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: tunnie on 18 December 2023, 21:17:32
Bro had Goodyear F1 Assym Runflats on his F30 330D and swore by them.

Plenty of grip, decent wear and about 20k miles from them.

Currently running on Continental Sport Contact 5’s all around, they had 6mm on when I bought it. Down or 4.5mm in 12 months / 7k miles, so thinking a summer deal at Costco is needed. Almost getting TB style miles. Then again this is a bit of an animal.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: tunnie on 18 December 2023, 21:21:52
And just like that, Tunnie reappeared like Bobby Ewing stepping out of the shower!  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtfLLVXXpJY

Nice car Tunnie!  :y

It is nice. :y

I didn't know BMW produced a 302 BHP straight 6 with 302 BHP.

Is it a variation of the B58 lump?

It’s the  “standard” N55 lump. Not sure exactly but there was M Performance engine upgrade pack which took it to ~325bhp.

Apparently a stage 1 will take it to 360bhp odd.

But to be honest I don’t feel it lacks power as it is!

It’s silky smooth, I really like the power delivery and noise. Head up display is great, music, navigation, speed, etc all displayed on the road in front of you. Active headlights turn on twisty roads and really help. They also block out sections of high beam. So if following a car, it does full beam each side of the car in front.

Looking forward to ditching the run flats and go PS4’s. Told it transforms the car, but I’m already very happy with it. Had it a year now  :y

My car came with them as standard and I really can't fault them be it wet or dry.

What year is it?

It’s a very late 2015, so has the NBT-Evo software & could be flashed to ID6 from ID4 for CarPlay etc. But so far I’ve not wanted it.

Only modification I’ve done so far, is pulled the fuse for the exhaust flap. So both pipes are always open. Pulls away better from the line now, feels a bit less “stuffed up”.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: TheBoy on 19 December 2023, 08:36:17
Thanks to ULEZ this is my choice back into a RWD, which fits some of your list.

Large saloon Medium saloon
RWD
Auto
200+ BHP 300+bhp

£10kish for sub 10yr 100k miles example

40+ mpg capable day to day
I think its a little small for me, maybe I should try.  But I personally find 5 series causes me issues on longer runs, can't see the smaller ones being any better as they tend to be too taughtly sprung, even in comfort modes for those that have that function.

Clearly large petrols NFG to me, I can't achieve those sorts of MPG figures ;D.  But the diesels are every bit as quick in reality, if dull, and I couldn't care less about ULEZ :)
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: TheBoy on 19 December 2023, 08:40:50
Currently running on Continental Sport Contact 5’s all around, they had 6mm on when I bought it. Down or 4.5mm in 12 months / 7k miles, so thinking a summer deal at Costco is needed. Almost getting TB style miles. Then again this is a bit of an animal.
To put into context, I got 3k from a set of SC5's and 5k from the rears.  Unusual in itself that the rears outlived the fronts - mostly because I was too scared to use the loud pedal ;D

PS4 are available in runflat, I think Michelin refer to them as ZP (Zero Pressure).  Only PS4S available in non runflat nowadays, and quite a different tyre to be honest.  Personally I prefer the original PS4, but then I drive, to quote DLK, like a cock. Well, before I became a reformed character, just like that Mr Slow YZ250....
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: tunnie on 19 December 2023, 08:44:22
Thanks to ULEZ this is my choice back into a RWD, which fits some of your list.

Large saloon Medium saloon
RWD
Auto
200+ BHP 300+bhp

£10kish for sub 10yr 100k miles example

40+ mpg capable day to day
I think its a little small for me, maybe I should try.  But I personally find 5 series causes me issues on longer runs, can't see the smaller ones being any better as they tend to be too taughtly sprung, even in comfort modes for those that have that function.

Clearly large petrols NFG to me, I can't achieve those sorts of MPG figures ;D.  But the diesels are every bit as quick in reality, if dull, and I couldn't care less about ULEZ :)

You can see on the long run, I was not hanging about. Soon as it opened up, so did my right foot.

Suspect it's not for you, it's quite low. You fall into it a bit, quite a difference to the daddy bus. I find the ride firm but good, but I do have a generally good road surface. As it's M3/M25/Great West Road for me on my commute.

Interested to see how normal tyres change it.

I do feel like it's about as close as to your old MV6 as you can get. Interior has worn well, feels like new, dark leather with M-Sport seats also sealed it for me. Those leg extending supports make it very comfortable for me.

I've had the entire family of 3kids + the wife in there and it's been fine. So not sure why you would struggle for size!

That said behind me there little leg room.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: tunnie on 19 December 2023, 08:46:15
Currently running on Continental Sport Contact 5’s all around, they had 6mm on when I bought it. Down or 4.5mm in 12 months / 7k miles, so thinking a summer deal at Costco is needed. Almost getting TB style miles. Then again this is a bit of an animal.
To put into context, I got 3k from a set of SC5's and 5k from the rears.  Unusual in itself that the rears outlived the fronts - mostly because I was too scared to use the loud pedal ;D

PS4 are available in runflat, I think Michelin refer to them as ZP (Zero Pressure).  Only PS4S available in non runflat nowadays, and quite a different tyre to be honest.  Personally I prefer the original PS4, but then I drive, to quote DLK, like a cock. Well, before I became a reformed character, just like that Mr Slow YZ250....

99% sure I'll get normal PS4's as they appear well recommended and apparently transform it.  ???
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: TheBoy on 19 December 2023, 08:49:50
Thanks to ULEZ this is my choice back into a RWD, which fits some of your list.

Large saloon Medium saloon
RWD
Auto
200+ BHP 300+bhp

£10kish for sub 10yr 100k miles example

40+ mpg capable day to day
I think its a little small for me, maybe I should try.  But I personally find 5 series causes me issues on longer runs, can't see the smaller ones being any better as they tend to be too taughtly sprung, even in comfort modes for those that have that function.

Clearly large petrols NFG to me, I can't achieve those sorts of MPG figures ;D.  But the diesels are every bit as quick in reality, if dull, and I couldn't care less about ULEZ :)

You can see on the long run, I was not hanging about. Soon as it opened up, so did my right foot.

Suspect it's not for you, it's quite low. You fall into it a bit, quite a difference to the daddy bus. I find the ride firm but good, but I do have a generally good road surface. As it's M3/M25/Great West Road for me on my commute.

Interested to see how normal tyres change it.

I do feel like it's about as close as to your old MV6 as you can get. Interior has worn well, feels like new, dark leather with M-Sport seats also sealed it for me. Those leg extending supports make it very comfortable for me.

I've had the entire family of 3kids + the wife in there and it's been fine. So not sure why you would struggle for size!

That said behind me there little leg room.
Well, next time you're up in Brakkers.... ;)
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: TheBoy on 19 December 2023, 08:51:29
99% sure I'll get normal PS4's as they appear well recommended and apparently transform it.  ???
Remember, they will be PS4S now, check with other owners if its PS4 or PS4S they are running...   ...although I think PS5 are just around the corner, although they will be an unknown until a few people try them.

:y
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: tunnie on 19 December 2023, 09:09:47
99% sure I'll get normal PS4's as they appear well recommended and apparently transform it.  ???
Remember, they will be PS4S now, check with other owners if its PS4 or PS4S they are running...   ...although I think PS5 are just around the corner, although they will be an unknown until a few people try them.

:y

Costco was still offering PS4 and PS4-S at the weekend
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: tunnie on 19 December 2023, 09:30:55
Thanks to ULEZ this is my choice back into a RWD, which fits some of your list.

Large saloon Medium saloon
RWD
Auto
200+ BHP 300+bhp

£10kish for sub 10yr 100k miles example

40+ mpg capable day to day
I think its a little small for me, maybe I should try.  But I personally find 5 series causes me issues on longer runs, can't see the smaller ones being any better as they tend to be too taughtly sprung, even in comfort modes for those that have that function.

Clearly large petrols NFG to me, I can't achieve those sorts of MPG figures ;D.  But the diesels are every bit as quick in reality, if dull, and I couldn't care less about ULEZ :)

You can see on the long run, I was not hanging about. Soon as it opened up, so did my right foot.

Suspect it's not for you, it's quite low. You fall into it a bit, quite a difference to the daddy bus. I find the ride firm but good, but I do have a generally good road surface. As it's M3/M25/Great West Road for me on my commute.

Interested to see how normal tyres change it.

I do feel like it's about as close as to your old MV6 as you can get. Interior has worn well, feels like new, dark leather with M-Sport seats also sealed it for me. Those leg extending supports make it very comfortable for me.

I've had the entire family of 3kids + the wife in there and it's been fine. So not sure why you would struggle for size!

That said behind me there little leg room.
Well, next time you're up in Brakkers.... ;)

Not sure I want 6 months of life taken out of my tyres in 15 mins. But yes, next time I'm up  :y
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Jimbob on 19 December 2023, 10:03:58
Welcome back matey, nice looking motor
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: tunnie on 19 December 2023, 11:40:52
Welcome back matey, nice looking motor

Thanks  :)
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: STEMO on 19 December 2023, 11:47:50
Welcome back matey, nice looking motor

Thanks  :)
Welcome back, Tunnie, if you intend on staying get rid of the mummy bus pic  :y
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: TheBoy on 19 December 2023, 12:07:42
99% sure I'll get normal PS4's as they appear well recommended and apparently transform it.  ???
Remember, they will be PS4S now, check with other owners if its PS4 or PS4S they are running...   ...although I think PS5 are just around the corner, although they will be an unknown until a few people try them.

:y

Costco was still offering PS4 and PS4-S at the weekend
Double check the PS4 wasn't runflat.  Everywhere I found who claimed to have PS4, they were either PS4S or PS4 ZP, including the MK and Cov branches of Costco.  Of course, that could be in the size I was looking for.

But any PS4 thats not runflat will likely be old stock, so worth checking dates, as you want to have them off within 5 years of the date stamp.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: TheBoy on 19 December 2023, 12:09:59
Not sure I want 6 months of life taken out of my tyres in 15 mins. But yes, next time I'm up  :y
One has to test all aspects of it ;D

Actually, I've just left about 5k of PS4 in Saino's. Accidentally.  Guessing some diesel had got washed down in the rain, as it just lit up the rears...
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: TheBoy on 19 December 2023, 12:10:41
Welcome back matey, nice looking motor

Thanks  :)
Welcome back, Tunnie, if you intend on staying get rid of the mummy bus pic  :y
Yeah, exactly.  Nobody wants to look at a clapped out Zafira, except Lord Opti.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: tunnie on 19 December 2023, 14:41:15
In many ways I miss my old Daddy bus, it was a capable car. Comfortable, did a road trip to Ireland in it. Drove about 2k over a couple weeks, I remember climbing back into the 3.2 and thinking I prefered the daddy bus  :o
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 19 December 2023, 14:43:33
If you're ditching the Runflats, you would be well advised to at least get higher load rated tyres. Last thing you want is a side wall failing with no spare.
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: tunnie on 19 December 2023, 14:44:00
99% sure I'll get normal PS4's as they appear well recommended and apparently transform it.  ???
Remember, they will be PS4S now, check with other owners if its PS4 or PS4S they are running...   ...although I think PS5 are just around the corner, although they will be an unknown until a few people try them.

:y

Costco was still offering PS4 and PS4-S at the weekend
Double check the PS4 wasn't runflat.  Everywhere I found who claimed to have PS4, they were either PS4S or PS4 ZP, including the MK and Cov branches of Costco.  Of course, that could be in the size I was looking for.

But any PS4 thats not runflat will likely be old stock, so worth checking dates, as you want to have them off within 5 years of the date stamp.

Look like normal PS4's  ???

(https://i.postimg.cc/VNthGZqS/costco2.jpg)
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: YZ250 on 19 December 2023, 15:12:04
99% sure I'll get normal PS4's as they appear well recommended and apparently transform it.  ???
Remember, they will be PS4S now, check with other owners if its PS4 or PS4S they are running...   ...although I think PS5 are just around the corner, although they will be an unknown until a few people try them.

:y

Costco was still offering PS4 and PS4-S at the weekend
Double check the PS4 wasn't runflat.  Everywhere I found who claimed to have PS4, they were either PS4S or PS4 ZP, including the MK and Cov branches of Costco.  Of course, that could be in the size I was looking for.

But any PS4 thats not runflat will likely be old stock, so worth checking dates, as you want to have them off within 5 years of the date stamp.

Look like normal PS4's  ???

(https://i.postimg.cc/VNthGZqS/costco2.jpg)

Have you got 225/40 R19 on all corners then, as in a square set up, or was that just an example. Mine (a 2020 plate) had 255/35 R19 on the rears. Same wheels, five twin spokes.  :)

Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: tunnie on 19 December 2023, 15:21:55
Same on the Grand Coupe -> Fatter and more low profile.

Front: 225/40/19
Rear: 255/35/19
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: YZ250 on 19 December 2023, 15:36:11
Same on the Grand Coupe -> Fatter and more low profile.

Front: 225/40/19
Rear: 255/35/19

 :y

BMW use a variety of tyres as factory fit. It could be Continental, Michelin or Bridgestone etc, it’s pot luck what you get. I had Bridgestone S001’s on one of mine and I didn’t like them at all. I could easily upset it on fast corners on uneven tarmac.  Tyres that are approved for them usually have the bmw logo next to them.  :y
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: tunnie on 19 December 2023, 15:47:26
There is one roundabout that is off-camber and even when I'm listening to an audio book and in no rush I've accidentally had it sideways. Because it hides the speed so well compared to the daddy bus, very little body roll and I've caught myself out why its sliding and I'm not even in that much of a hurry!
Title: Re: Age old question....
Post by: VXL V6 on 20 December 2023, 09:24:42
Same on the Grand Coupe -> Fatter and more low profile.

Front: 225/40/19
Rear: 255/35/19

 :y

BMW use a variety of tyres as factory fit. It could be Continental, Michelin or Bridgestone etc, it’s pot luck what you get. I had Bridgestone S001’s on one of mine and I didn’t like them at all. I could easily upset it on fast corners on uneven tarmac.  Tyres that are approved for them usually have the bmw logo next to them.  :y

The marking is a * on the two pairs i'v e bought from BMW dealers.