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[Rangie]

Well what a surprise the next Dr Who is going to be a black actor, if I did watch it I'd cease immediately.

[dave the builder]

https://www.aol.co.uk/entertainment/sex-education-star-ncuti-gatwa-113349452.html

I think I'll give it a miss ,I did watch a bit when the woman took over ,but it was shyte

[ronnyd]

How the hell can the BBC tout Dr Who as serious drama is beyond me. Was,is and always will be a kids programme.

[Raeturbo]

There are no coloured time travellers👍

[Sir Tigger KC]

There are no coloured time travellers👍

How do you know? 

Maybe it's just that you haven't been to the same time zones! 

[Mr Skrunts]

Not watched a single episode since the 1st Dr Who

[Sir Tigger KC]

Not watched a single episode since the 1st Dr Who

Did you find it too scary Skruntie? 

[STEMO]

There are no coloured time travellers👍

Ahem.....time travellers of colour.

[STEMO]

You'll know the tables have finally turned when the monsters trying to kill the good doctor are white and wearing hoods.

[Raeturbo]

You'll know the tables have finally turned when the monsters trying to kill the good doctor are white and wearing hoods.

               Excellent😂😂

[Raeturbo]

There are no coloured time travellers👍

How do you know? 

Maybe it's just that you haven't been to the same time zones! 

                That’s a point🤭

[redelitev6]

What else did you expect , a middle age white non mincer ?

[Raeturbo]

That would be racist of course 🙄

[STEMO]

That would be racist of course 🙄

I hope the new dr who isn't going to be dalekist, or cybermanist. And I don't want to see any splattering of aliens. MLM......monsters lives matter.

[Mr Skrunts]

Not watched a single episode since the 1st Dr Who

Did you find it too scary Skruntie? 

No, not at all.  As a kid I even had a Dalek but left it in a taxi after comeing back from Grannys up North (Would be worth a small fortune these days)

[STEMO]

Not watched a single episode since the 1st Dr Who

Did you find it too scary Skruntie? 

No, not at all.  As a kid I even had a Darlek but left it in a taxi after comeing back from Grannys up North (Would be worth a small fortune these days)

Were they like a dalek?

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Exterminate.....

[Raeturbo]

You will obey!

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Why shouldnt the character be played by a black actor ? 
If it were a biopic on Henry the eight, fair enough, but......

[Raeturbo]

Well in my opinion the character that started the show, a white middle aged man, should have been
the continuation. Now then however, if the show had started with a black doctor, or a women, I would have the same opinion. Not that I’ve watched it since Noah was a boy anyway.  (White boy).   (So far)👍.

[dave the builder]

The current woman doctor will transform to a gay black male
few boxes ticked there for the woke 

[Raeturbo]

Err that’s what I said🤣

[Raeturbo]

Not much chance for us normals, I’m trying my very best to keep my little ones away from all that evil shit. I want them to grow up normal like me👀👀👀

[Lizzie Zoom]

Why shouldnt the character be played by a black actor ? 
If it were a biopic on Henry the eight, fair enough, but......

Absolutely right!

I was biting my lip to say something, and more, along those lines.  But it is clear the OOF has been taken over by old, white, straight, supremacy men folk who have failed to put the past national evils behind them, so what is the point!

It is just so disappointing in this enlightened age in the 21st century for some to still be considering discrimination against anyone different, and especially those not ‘white’. 

[Raeturbo]

Not me then because I’m not fussy on most whites either. Although,  I love all women. A conundrum indeed.

[Raeturbo]

Whoops, except Abbot

[Doctor Gollum]

Open the door and someone will always walk through it...

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Why shouldnt the character be played by a black actor ? 
If it were a biopic on Henry the eight, fair enough, but......

Absolutely right!

I was biting my lip to say something, and more, along those lines.  But it is clear the OOF has been taken over by old, white, straight, supremacy men folk who have failed to put the past national evils behind them, so what is the point!

It is just so disappointing in this enlightened age in the 21st century for some to still be considering discrimination against anyone different, and especially those not ‘white’. 

No reason why the Doctor can't be black if he/she is a good actor/actress but.....

This only works if the selection process includes people of both sexes and all  colours and creeds.

My guess is that white people were not seriously included in the selection process.  The BBC love to show how diverse they are.

Biden pulled a similar stunt with the appointment of the latest supreme court judge. He should have appointed the most able (who could be any colour).....but instead he went down the identity politics route by insisting that the new judge must be a woman who must also be black.

Women only shortlists so beloved by Blair is another example where merit and ability become of secondary importance.

 

[ronnyd]

Why shouldnt the character be played by a black actor ? 
If it were a biopic on Henry the eight, fair enough, but......

Absolutely right!

I was biting my lip to say something, and more, along those lines.  But it is clear the OOF has been taken over by old, white, straight, supremacy men folk who have failed to put the past national evils behind them, so what is the point!

It is just so disappointing in this enlightened age in the 21st century for some to still be considering discrimination against anyone different, and especially those not ‘white’. 

No reason why the Doctor can't be black if he/she is a good actor/actress but.....

This only works if the selection process includes people of both sexes and all  colours and creeds.

My guess is that white people were not included in the selection process.  The BBC love to show how diverse they are.

Biden pulled a similar stunt with the appointment of the latest supreme court judge. He should have appointed the most able (who could be any colour).....but instead he went down the identity politics route by insisting that the new judge must be a woman who must also be black.

Women only shortlists so beloved by Blair is another example where merit and ability become of secondary importance.

 

I don.t give a flying one who plays the good Dr, as i wouldn't watch whatever colour/creed they were. The point is as Opti says, a lot of very able people are being excluded from certain high profile jobs, just in order to satisfy a box ticking exercise. If this labels me a racist in certain peoples tinted eyes, tough shit.

[zirk]

I reckon this thread or some of it is going to get zapped soon.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Why shouldnt the character be played by a black actor ? 
If it were a biopic on Henry the eight, fair enough, but......

Absolutely right!

I was biting my lip to say something, and more, along those lines.  But it is clear the OOF has been taken over by old, white, straight, supremacy men folk who have failed to put the past national evils behind them, so what is the point!

It is just so disappointing in this enlightened age in the 21st century for some to still be considering discrimination against anyone different, and especially those not ‘white’. 

No reason why the Doctor can't be black if he/she is a good actor/actress but.....

This only works if the selection process includes people of both sexes and all  colours and creeds.

My guess is that white people were not included in the selection process.  The BBC love to show how diverse they are.

Biden pulled a similar stunt with the appointment of the latest supreme court judge. He should have appointed the most able (who could be any colour).....but instead he went down the identity politics route by insisting that the new judge must be a woman who must also be black.

Women only shortlists so beloved by Blair is another example where merit and ability become of secondary importance.

 

I don.t give a flying one who plays the good Dr, as i wouldn't watch whatever colour/creed they were. The point is as Opti says, a lot of very able people are being excluded from certain high profile jobs, just in order to satisfy a box ticking exercise. If this labels me a racist in certain peoples tinted eyes, tough shit.
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If I close my eyes I can almost see the selection process in action. No doubt the 'inclusion and diversity' representative will be invited  and asked by hand wringing BBC staff how we can all make the world a better place.

[Lizzie Zoom]

Why shouldnt the character be played by a black actor ? 
If it were a biopic on Henry the eight, fair enough, but......

Absolutely right!

I was biting my lip to say something, and more, along those lines.  But it is clear the OOF has been taken over by old, white, straight, supremacy men folk who have failed to put the past national evils behind them, so what is the point!

It is just so disappointing in this enlightened age in the 21st century for some to still be considering discrimination against anyone different, and especially those not ‘white’. 

No reason why the Doctor can't be black if he/she is a good actor/actress but.....

This only works if the selection process includes people of both sexes and all  colours and creeds.

My guess is that white people were not seriously included in the selection process.  The BBC love to show how diverse they are.

Biden pulled a similar stunt with the appointment of the latest supreme court judge. He should have appointed the most able (who could be any colour).....but instead he went down the identity politics route by insisting that the new judge must be a woman who must also be black.

Women only shortlists so beloved by Blair is another example where merit and ability become of secondary importance.

You may be surprised, but I agree with you entirely Opti!

Yes, everyone who is considered for any professional role must be assessed on merit.  What they can do for the business / job/ role, etc., MUST be the only consideration.  That means everyone, no matter what creed, colour, sexuality, gender identity should be considered and appointed on their ability.

This was not always the case that’s for sure back in the dark days before the relaxation of invisible demarcation lines in the 1970s / 1980s and beyond. That is why we all must never allow our society to go back to the days of “No Irish, No dogs, No blacks”. 

[Rangie]

The part I dislike about all this nonsense is that it all stems from that drug dealing piece of shit whose immortal words " I can't breathe" was the start of all this , couldn't give a toss what colour they are but stop pushing them forward at every opportunity as if we owe them some kind of apology, you break the law that's the chance you take, as for being racist I'm mixed race & can't abide what is happening it's simply pushing the tolerance back of people by 30 years or more.

[zirk]

to go back to the days of “No Irish, No dogs, No blacks”. 

Well that's a bit Racists Lizzie,              what about the Scots, 

[Lizzie Zoom]

to go back to the days of “No Irish, No dogs, No blacks”. 

Well that's a bit Racists Lizzie,              what about the Scots, 

I wouldn’t dare to add them

[Lizzie Zoom]

The part I dislike about all this nonsense is that it all stems from that drug dealing piece of shit whose immortal words " I can't breathe" was the start of all this , couldn't give a toss what colour they are but stop pushing them forward at every opportunity as if we owe them some kind of apology, you break the law that's the chance you take, as for being racist I'm mixed race & can't abide what is happening it's simply pushing the tolerance back of people by 30 years or more.

Yes, I must agree, that was most unfortunate.  It was an excuse to attack racism and the US police in one go.  The years old “campaigne” against racism was hijacked, and may well have reversed the aims of it. But I know a number of those subjected to the type of racism that I do not get as a white woman, and that has still got to change so we can live together, judging others by their abilities, not their ethnic origins.

There is still all too much hate going on around the World :'( :'(

[Raeturbo]

to go back to the days of “No Irish, No dogs, No blacks”. 

Well that's a bit Racists Lizzie,              what about the Scots, 

  And us Welsh?🙄

[dave the builder]

to go back to the days of “No Irish, No dogs, No blacks”. 

Well that's a bit Racists Lizzie,              what about the Scots, 

  And us Welsh?🙄

race discrimination if you don't include the Welsh
you should write a strongly worded letter Rae 

[Lizzie Zoom]

to go back to the days of “No Irish, No dogs, No blacks”. 

Well that's a bit Racists Lizzie,              what about the Scots, 

  And us Welsh?🙄

No boyo, I would never not include the Welsh as I spent many happy years on business going around the lovely valley’s

Mind you, I remember the discriminatory comments made between those from the valley’s and townies

It was very funny when one of my Merthyr Tydfil store managers, who was a townie, was talked about in Welsh in a derogatory way by two women from the town who mistakenly assumed he did not speak the language.  They were shocked when, in perfect Welsh, he told them what he thought of them!

[Raeturbo]

🤣🤣

[biggriffin]

I think it's nearly correct to cast a bame person as a DR, just look at the majority who work in the NHS, mainly foreigners,or persons of colour,

[Raeturbo]

🤭🤣

[STEMO]

It's a kids programme that none of us watch.....probably. Who give a fluck?

[Viral_Jim]

You may be surprised, but I agree with you entirely Opti!

Yes, everyone who is considered for any professional role must be assessed on merit.  What they can do for the business / job/ role, etc., MUST be the only consideration.  That means everyone, no matter what creed, colour, sexuality, gender identity should be considered and appointed on their ability.

I'd agree with this, except it doesn't actually work that way in the real world. 14% of the UK population is non-white, and 70 odd million people is enough to make a statistically relevant sample. So taking the FTSE 100 for example, there *ought* to be 14% non-white people in top jobs (unless you want to argue that white people are smarter/better able to lead than non white, which is racism at its core). In practice there are only 3.5%.

Just looking at the numbers it's pretty clear that the tables have been tilted for a long time and no amount of talking about appointments being made on merit has changed that. Look across many other fields, the media included and racism is pretty clearly alive and well in the UK, along with many other places the numbers bear it out.

The truth is that 'positive discrimination ' is just a tiny tiny hint of what it might be like with the shoe on the other foot and mostly white, mostly men of mostly a certain age get their ar$e in their hands about it.

[Sir Tigger KC]

My white arse of a certain age is too big to get in my hands.                                                                                   

[STEMO]

You may be surprised, but I agree with you entirely Opti!

Yes, everyone who is considered for any professional role must be assessed on merit.  What they can do for the business / job/ role, etc., MUST be the only consideration.  That means everyone, no matter what creed, colour, sexuality, gender identity should be considered and appointed on their ability.

I'd agree with this, except it doesn't actually work that way in the real world. 14% of the UK population is non-white, and 70 odd million people is enough to make a statistically relevant sample. So taking the FTSE 100 for example, there *ought* to be 14% non-white people in top jobs (unless you want to argue that white people are smarter/better able to lead than non white, which is racism at its core). In practice there are only 3.5%.

Just looking at the numbers it's pretty clear that the tables have been tilted for a long time and no amount of talking about appointments being made on merit has changed that. Look across many other fields, the media included and racism is pretty clearly alive and well in the UK, along with many other places the numbers bear it out.

The truth is that 'positive discrimination ' is just a tiny tiny hint of what it might be like with the shoe on the other foot and mostly white, mostly men of mostly a certain age get their ar$e in their hands about it.

How many of the 14% of non whites can actually converse in English? That's not a racist, throw away question, my wife works in a school in Sheffield where a fair percentage of the parents have to have an interpreter at meetings.

[STEMO]

And, while we're talking non white, I suspect we mean black, not Asian. The business world, along with most other occupations, have a good percentage of Asian people represented. If we are talking black, what percentage of the population do they represent?

[Sir Tigger KC]

You may be surprised, but I agree with you entirely Opti!

Yes, everyone who is considered for any professional role must be assessed on merit.  What they can do for the business / job/ role, etc., MUST be the only consideration.  That means everyone, no matter what creed, colour, sexuality, gender identity should be considered and appointed on their ability.

I'd agree with this, except it doesn't actually work that way in the real world. 14% of the UK population is non-white, and 70 odd million people is enough to make a statistically relevant sample. So taking the FTSE 100 for example, there *ought* to be 14% non-white people in top jobs (unless you want to argue that white people are smarter/better able to lead than non white, which is racism at its core). In practice there are only 3.5%.

Just looking at the numbers it's pretty clear that the tables have been tilted for a long time and no amount of talking about appointments being made on merit has changed that. Look across many other fields, the media included and racism is pretty clearly alive and well in the UK, along with many other places the numbers bear it out.

The truth is that 'positive discrimination ' is just a tiny tiny hint of what it might be like with the shoe on the other foot and mostly white, mostly men of mostly a certain age get their ar$e in their hands about it.

How many of the 14% of non whites can actually converse in English? That's not a racist, throw away question, my wife works in a school in Sheffield where a fair percentage of the parents have to have an interpreter at meetings.

At the taxpayers expense? 

[STEMO]

You may be surprised, but I agree with you entirely Opti!

Yes, everyone who is considered for any professional role must be assessed on merit.  What they can do for the business / job/ role, etc., MUST be the only consideration.  That means everyone, no matter what creed, colour, sexuality, gender identity should be considered and appointed on their ability.

I'd agree with this, except it doesn't actually work that way in the real world. 14% of the UK population is non-white, and 70 odd million people is enough to make a statistically relevant sample. So taking the FTSE 100 for example, there *ought* to be 14% non-white people in top jobs (unless you want to argue that white people are smarter/better able to lead than non white, which is racism at its core). In practice there are only 3.5%.

Just looking at the numbers it's pretty clear that the tables have been tilted for a long time and no amount of talking about appointments being made on merit has changed that. Look across many other fields, the media included and racism is pretty clearly alive and well in the UK, along with many other places the numbers bear it out.

The truth is that 'positive discrimination ' is just a tiny tiny hint of what it might be like with the shoe on the other foot and mostly white, mostly men of mostly a certain age get their ar$e in their hands about it.

How many of the 14% of non whites can actually converse in English? That's not a racist, throw away question, my wife works in a school in Sheffield where a fair percentage of the parents have to have an interpreter at meetings.

At the taxpayers expense? 

No, usually a member of the community.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

You may be surprised, but I agree with you entirely Opti!

Yes, everyone who is considered for any professional role must be assessed on merit.  What they can do for the business / job/ role, etc., MUST be the only consideration.  That means everyone, no matter what creed, colour, sexuality, gender identity should be considered and appointed on their ability.

I'd agree with this, except it doesn't actually work that way in the real world. 14% of the UK population is non-white, and 70 odd million people is enough to make a statistically relevant sample. So taking the FTSE 100 for example, there *ought* to be 14% non-white people in top jobs (unless you want to argue that white people are smarter/better able to lead than non white, which is racism at its core). In practice there are only 3.5%.

Just looking at the numbers it's pretty clear that the tables have been tilted for a long time and no amount of talking about appointments being made on merit has changed that. Look across many other fields, the media included and racism is pretty clearly alive and well in the UK, along with many other places the numbers bear it out.

The truth is that 'positive discrimination ' is just a tiny tiny hint of what it might be like with the shoe on the other foot and mostly white, mostly men of mostly a certain age get their ar$e in their hands about it.

Only about 3% are black .......more than twice this amount are Asian.

Yet the Asian representation is far less than that of black people. Why?

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

When I talk of Asian representation being less than that of black people I mean on television.

As STMO points out Asian people are well represented in the business world.

[Drewomega]

I have just been watching a UK commercial channel here in Mallorca and Mr Kipling has always made exceedingly good cakes but I notice he has changed colour!! AND he looks like a black santa. Well, I can't remember him being like that when I was kid. I weep, I really do!

[Raeturbo]

If you don’t conform to this crap it will cost you one way or another.

[Doctor Gollum]

Working at Heathrow, and both are very well represented...

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I have just been watching a UK commercial channel here in Mallorca and Mr Kipling has always made exceedingly good cakes but I notice he has changed colour!! AND he looks like a black santa. Well, I can't remember him being like that when I was kid. I weep, I really do!

The new Santa lives in Jamaica.

Lapland Santa has retired.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Rudolph the reindeer has also been put out to pasture and replaced by Winston.

[Lizzie Zoom]

I have just been watching a UK commercial channel here in Mallorca and Mr Kipling has always made exceedingly good cakes but I notice he has changed colour!! AND he looks like a black santa. Well, I can't remember him being like that when I was kid. I weep, I really do!

The new Santa lives in Jamaica.

Lapland Santa has retired.

That’s due to global warming melting a lot of their snow

[Doctor Gollum]

I have just been watching a UK commercial channel here in Mallorca and Mr Kipling has always made exceedingly good cakes but I notice he has changed colour!! AND he looks like a black santa. Well, I can't remember him being like that when I was kid. I weep, I really do!

The new Santa lives in Jamaica.

Lapland Santa has retired.

That’s due to global warming melting a lot of their snow

And I thought he was forced out by divisity.

One of the new start groups at work has BLM in the title of their WhatsApp group.

Safe to say there isn't a single white, Latino or anyone ethnically East of Djibouti within it...

[STEMO]

I have just been watching a UK commercial channel here in Mallorca and Mr Kipling has always made exceedingly good cakes but I notice he has changed colour!! AND he looks like a black santa. Well, I can't remember him being like that when I was kid. I weep, I really do!

The new Santa lives in Jamaica.

Lapland Santa has retired.

That’s due to global warming melting a lot of their snow

And I thought he was forced out by divisity.

One of the new start groups at work has BLM in the title of their WhatsApp group.

Safe to say there isn't a single white, Latino or anyone ethnically East of Djibouti within it...

They live in their own, entitled bubble. It's good that no one else is invited, nor requests entry, to their little, uninformed world. They are, and always will be, no more than a shouty minority.