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Title: Alternator
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 20 October 2023, 11:09:21
Travelling just 3 miles from home yesterday, the alternator red light came on.  Bit by bit the electrical power went, then the dreaded limp mode made it's feelings known. I just managed to park up outside my home, and the engine died.  No power left to turn the engine, or work any electrics!

I knew what the problem was, but called in the AA to inspect, check all connections, and then confirm my fears.  Alternator gone, dead, cupput! :'(

Found prices for a replacement, and asked my local garage for a quote to replace.  How easy is it to fit an alternator?  The last time I fitted a - well, it was a generator then on an A40 -  it was dead easy.  Not so now I reckon on a 3.2 engine.

Any thoughts please. ;)
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Nick W on 20 October 2023, 11:26:49
It's not complicated, but is nowhere near as easy as an A40. Access isn't as good, there's more to remove to get to the alternator, and it's much bigger.



Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 20 October 2023, 11:56:44
Here you go  :y

https://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=107049.0
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 20 October 2023, 12:01:47
Here you go  :y

https://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=107049.0

Thanks Skruntie and Nick. :y :y

I am asking myself am I up to do all that work now?  Frankly with what you describe and show, I do not think I am up to it, or rather want to be.  I think I have no choice but taking it, with AA assistance, to my local garage.

Thanks again though :-* :y
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 20 October 2023, 14:33:29
Rarely the alternator dead. Usually the regulator on the back of the alternator needs replacing. I got mine from the company below, on the recommendation of Kevin Woof if my memory serves.

https://www.rotatingelectrics.co.uk/search?q=Vauxhall+omega+regulator&options%5Bprefix%5D=last&type=product
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: STEMO on 20 October 2023, 14:40:53
Rarely the alternator dead. Usually the regulator on the back of the alternator needs replacing. I got mine from the company below, on the recommendation of Kevin Woof if my memory serves.

https://www.rotatingelectrics.co.uk/search?q=Vauxhall+omega+regulator&options%5Bprefix%5D=last&type=product
I wouldn't take any recommendations off that old dog.
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 20 October 2023, 14:58:10
I had similar issues as Lizzie decribed on my Carlton Diplomat, car just conked out with lights on the dash , leave it a while mine would restart and conk out again after a mile or.

Simle fault - spade connector (Thin wire at crimp joint) had worn , took it off crimped on a new terminal, problem solved. :y

Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: johnnydog on 20 October 2023, 15:09:08
I don't know what prices you have been quoted for a replacement alternator, but when mine gave up the ghost, I took it to an  autoelectrics place who fully overhauled the existing alternator for around £50. Replaced the electrical components with genuine Bosch (not cheap chinese versions!) and a new pulley bearing. Came back looking like new.
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 20 October 2023, 15:31:28
Thanks for all the advice and comments :-* :y

Awaiting the requested quote. 

However I have found the correct part at Europarts, who have a branch just around the corner from my garage of choice, and my main dealer.  I can get the Lucas alternator for £134, but including a £47 "surcharge" that I get back when I return the old part to them.  So a net price of £87.  Therefore even though the £50 reconditioning price could be good, for just £37 approx more I get a brand new part.

Anyway, I think a few days of decision making lay ahead, let alone getting the cash / credit together, before I decide.  I am also going to review the slim possibility of me doing it all. Really don't know yet!! ::) ::) :D :D ;)



Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 20 October 2023, 16:56:29
Caffyns, my local main dealer, has been the first to come back with a price.  £200 for fitting, I supply the £134 alternator.

I think that is fair, and I am even getting a 4 month 0% interest loan to pay for it.  Then I also get £47 back on the old part when returned to Europarts.

No I can relax over the weekend, as I expected a far higher overall bill knowing only all too well what Omega's cost to keep going!!   It will be a £1,000 for this year with cam belt changed, rear brake pads replaced, steering box fluid changed, two new rear tyres, new double exhaust back from cats, and now alternator replacement! :(  Oh well, such is life  :) :)
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 20 October 2023, 17:18:20
Or you could order the part for about £15 and save yourself a load of money. Its almost always the regulator.
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: TheBoy on 20 October 2023, 17:25:25
That price probably excludes the excess for the exchange part, so your maths might be round the wrong way LZ

I agree, the alternator fault is more likely to be the regulator pack on the back, which is the cheaper fix.

Alternator is a bit fiddly on the Omega, but not difficult.  Like many jobs, access can feel tight.  Be defo do-able.


But the first thing you must do *RIGHT NOW* is get that battery off and on charge.  Leave it a day or 2 and I promise the battery will be shagged.
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 20 October 2023, 18:24:01
Don't overlook the battery.

Get a multi meter and run through Kevin's excellent diagnosis guide.
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: countrywoman on 20 October 2023, 18:42:53
Well it will be easier than changing the one on my Austin A40 hot rod as it sits on top of the chassis
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: YZ250 on 20 October 2023, 20:32:54
Rarely the alternator dead. Usually the regulator on the back of the alternator needs replacing. I got mine from the company below, on the recommendation of Kevin Woof if my memory serves.

https://www.rotatingelectrics.co.uk/search?q=Vauxhall+omega+regulator&options%5Bprefix%5D=last&type=product

Mid Ulster Rotating Electrics are very helpful  :y , RobG put me on to them.

Lizzie:
Removing/re-fitting the alternator is fiddly rather than difficult, mainly due to undoing the bolts by feel from above rather than sight. Once removed, the regulator takes about two minutes to swap so no issue there.  :y  It’s just a shame that the alternator won’t drop out the bottom, it has to come upward. From memory, disconnect battery, disconnect lead from alternator **, remove air filter to ram intake pipe, remove alternator belt and then feel for the bolts with a socket and spanner. Once removed, swap regulator for the new one and reassemble. I’m sure others will correct me if I’ve forgotten anything. Definitely doable though.  :y

**  You can either jack the car up and crawl under it to undo the alternator lead or remove the lead from above once the alternator is free from its fixings.  :y
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 21 October 2023, 17:30:08
That price probably excludes the excess for the exchange part, so your maths might be round the wrong way LZ

I agree, the alternator fault is more likely to be the regulator pack on the back, which is the cheaper fix.

Alternator is a bit fiddly on the Omega, but not difficult.  Like many jobs, access can feel tight.  Be defo do-able.


But the first thing you must do *RIGHT NOW* is get that battery off and on charge.  Leave it a day or 2 and I promise the battery will be shagged.

Well all I can say is that the AA guy, who was a Vx mechanic working on the Carltons, Senators, and Omegas did his diagnostic check and concluded the alternator had expired.  Not surprising really on a 20 year car with the original in place.  I had one expire on a 6 month old Ford Cortina estate back in the day, and what I experienced then was the same this time.

Frankly, for the price all in, and yes I have had confirmation that I get my £47 back with the old unit, which comes at a nett price inc. VAT of £87, I cannot deal with all the hassle of mucking around now.  nA Vx dealer who I know and trust is assisting me with all the arrangements, and the AA are on standby to take it to them on the day using one of their own batteries that will cover the short distance.  Before they left me the other day, they used a charger to start the car and recharge the battery just a little for all the electrics to work.  I understand though that the 2.5 year old battery could now be u/s, but I'll cross that bridge on the day.

Thanks for all the advice though, but it is just a shame that I, now 70 years young,  cannot deal with all the hassle of doing it all myself on a part that is fiddly to get to.  Also, for the set price quoted professionals can check everything out.  I may well get them to test the regulator pack before fitting the new alternator. They can aLso check the battery as suggested.

 :-* 8) :y :y
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 21 October 2023, 17:33:22
Well it will be easier than changing the one on my Austin A40 hot rod as it sits on top of the chassis

 ;D ;D ;D  there have been many times when I wish I still had the simplicity of the mechanics of an A40!! ;D ;)
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 21 October 2023, 17:35:19
Rarely the alternator dead. Usually the regulator on the back of the alternator needs replacing. I got mine from the company below, on the recommendation of Kevin Woof if my memory serves.

https://www.rotatingelectrics.co.uk/search?q=Vauxhall+omega+regulator&options%5Bprefix%5D=last&type=product

Mid Ulster Rotating Electrics are very helpful  :y , RobG put me on to them.

Lizzie:
Removing/re-fitting the alternator is fiddly rather than difficult, mainly due to undoing the bolts by feel from above rather than sight. Once removed, the regulator takes about two minutes to swap so no issue there.  :y  It’s just a shame that the alternator won’t drop out the bottom, it has to come upward. From memory, disconnect battery, disconnect lead from alternator **, remove air filter to ram intake pipe, remove alternator belt and then feel for the bolts with a socket and spanner. Once removed, swap regulator for the new one and reassemble. I’m sure others will correct me if I’ve forgotten anything. Definitely doable though.  :y

**  You can either jack the car up and crawl under it to undo the alternator lead or remove the lead from above once the alternator is free from its fixings.  :y

In my day I would have done all that, and more, but not now.  My joints, fingers and back just can't take it.  And with the current weather.............. ::) ::) ;)
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Andy B on 21 October 2023, 18:17:52
I'd do the same  Lizzy .... I even paid someone recently to replace the brake shoes & cylinders on my Smart  .... and I use spanners for a living. ::)
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 21 October 2023, 18:23:57
The regulator is held on to the back of the alternator by two screws. takes a minute or two to change once the alternator is detached from its fixings.     You could buy one and ask a garage to fit it.
The labour time will be the same (or less) as fitting a new alternator.
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 22 October 2023, 13:37:08
I'd do the same  Lizzy .... I even paid someone recently to replace the brake shoes & cylinders on my Smart  .... and I use spanners for a living. ::)

 ;D ;D  Yep Andy, age catches up with us and things we would easily do in our 20's suddenly becomes very hard. ::) ;)
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: YZ250 on 22 October 2023, 15:51:03
.......
;D ;D  Yep Andy, age catches up with us and things we would easily do in our 20's suddenly becomes very hard. ::) ;)

And speaking as an older male, things that used to be very hard in your 20's aren't so hard, or don't stay as hard for so long.  ::)  ;D
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 22 October 2023, 15:57:27
[quote ;) author=Lizzie Zoom link=topic=150604.msg2032576#msg2032576 date=1697978228]
.......
;D ;D  Yep Andy, age catches up with us and things we would easily do in our 20's suddenly becomes very hard. ::) ;)

And speaking as an older male, things that used to be very hard in your 20's aren't so hard, or don't stay as hard for so long.  ::)  ;D
[/quote]

 ;D ;D ;D ;D Did we want to know that! ;D  ;D :D
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: YZ250 on 22 October 2023, 16:03:40
[quote ;) author=Lizzie Zoom link=topic=150604.msg2032576#msg2032576 date=1697978228]
.......
;D ;D  Yep Andy, age catches up with us and things we would easily do in our 20's suddenly becomes very hard. ::) ;)

And speaking as an older male, things that used to be very hard in your 20's aren't so hard, or don't stay as hard for so long.  ::)  ;D

 ;D ;D ;D ;D Did we want to know that! ;D  ;D :D
[/quote]

Not really relevant was it.  ;D

Back on track, I fully understand what you mean regarding age and crawling under cars. Much easier to drop the car off, have it fixed, pay the bill and drive away.  :y
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Andy B on 22 October 2023, 17:39:34
.......
;D ;D  Yep Andy, age catches up with us and things we would easily do in our 20's suddenly becomes very hard. ::) ;)

And speaking as an older male, things that used to be very hard in your 20's aren't so hard, or don't stay as hard for so long.  ::)  ;D

 ;D  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: robson on 29 October 2023, 10:15:24
Hello Lizzie talking about old people I have recently had my cills welded and a rear brake rebuilt.Ok the welding I could not do but a brake rebuild I would have enjoyed doing but now it is easier to farm it out but I always wonder if the job has been done as well as I would like.At 87 I could be the oldest member of our club. Get it fixed and avoid the stress.
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 31 October 2023, 12:12:33
I'll happily help you out Lizzie, and you sure as hell won't need a loan for the privilege... it's what forums are all about
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 31 October 2023, 13:48:18
Hello Lizzie talking about old people I have recently had my cills welded and a rear brake rebuilt.Ok the welding I could not do but a brake rebuild I would have enjoyed doing but now it is easier to farm it out but I always wonder if the job has been done as well as I would like.At 87 I could be the oldest member of our club. Get it fixed and avoid the stress.

Have read your posts over the years, but had no idea you were that age. Good to see your still driving a nice old bus, rather than the usual little crap white goods cars we might associate with older drivers.
Keep up the good work.  :y :D
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 31 October 2023, 14:11:33
Hello Lizzie talking about old people I have recently had my cills welded and a rear brake rebuilt.Ok the welding I could not do but a brake rebuild I would have enjoyed doing but now it is easier to farm it out but I always wonder if the job has been done as well as I would like.At 87 I could be the oldest member of our club. Get it fixed and avoid the stress.

 had no idea you were that age.


He definitely doesn’t look it (or at least, didn’t a few months ago! :y
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 31 October 2023, 14:28:57
Gives me hope. I was 64 a few days ago, so not that old really.  :D
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: cam.in.head on 31 October 2023, 18:20:39
I'll happily help you out Lizzie, and you sure as hell won't need a loan for the privilege... it's what forums are all about
i agree completely with that. garages charge extortionate prices these days for work.
we come on these forums to ask for help and to give advice too.all for free.i am not looking forward to the time when i cannot do my own jobs as i cannot think who to trust nowadays.i hear so many stories of bad workmanship from so called proffesionals .
and yes i agree with an earlier statement. things that were hard to do when we were younger with our lack of experience become a doddle as we get older. (providing our bodies can do it ) we can probably still get into awkward places and shapes under dashboards etc but when we manage to get back out it tales longer to spring back into "person shape " !
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: TheBoy on 01 November 2023, 12:20:57
Gives me hope. I was 64 a few days ago, so not that old really.  :D
Yes you are...
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: grifter on 01 November 2023, 13:15:07
Those 2 screws that hold the regulator on; I had to grind into the side of one of the screws as the screw wouldn't budge, suspect it had been "reconditioned" before but couldn't be sure, it had what looked like a blue paint line between the screw and body. Changed the regulator anyway for peace of mind.
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: TheBoy on 01 November 2023, 15:04:33
it had what looked like a blue paint line between the screw and body
As in threadlock?  I would expect threadlock on that sort of thing :y
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: grifter on 01 November 2023, 16:26:57
it had what looked like a blue paint line between the screw and body
As in threadlock?  I would expect threadlock on that sort of thing :y

No, it was over the top of the screw head onto the body like an anti tamper mark.
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 01 November 2023, 17:23:40
Gives me hope. I was 64 a few days ago, so not that old really.  :D
Yes you are...

Far cough.  :P
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 02 November 2023, 17:02:54
it had what looked like a blue paint line between the screw and body
As in threadlock?  I would expect threadlock on that sort of thing :y

No, it was over the top of the screw head onto the body like an anti tamper mark.
Second hand parts suppliers have a nasty  habit of doing that.
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Nick W on 02 November 2023, 17:36:19
it had what looked like a blue paint line between the screw and body
As in threadlock?  I would expect threadlock on that sort of thing :y

No, it was over the top of the screw head onto the body like an anti tamper mark.
Second hand parts suppliers have a nasty  habit of doing that.


Also very common in aviation where you can't wire lock fasteners. Torque Seal is one brand. My boss bought it in four different colours, so we could tell who had done the work.
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: grifter on 03 November 2023, 14:23:00
It wasn't affecting the screw or anything one of them was just frikkin tight as buggery.
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 12 November 2023, 15:40:24
I'll happily help you out Lizzie, and you sure as hell won't need a loan for the privilege... it's what forums are all about

Ah, thanks James :-* :y

I may need your help with my Omega......

None of you may believe this, but my alternator break down became almost a fatal disaster, not just for the car but me!..

First the  Lucas alternator that my dealer and I sourced from Eurocar parts, although listed for a 3.2 Omega, could not be fitted after the defunct original was removed.  Mechanically it did fit....the problem was the electrical terminals at its rear were in the wrong place!!  The live in particular was too far away for the wiring o reach, and even the run of the neutral  across the back plate was all wrong!  No matter how the VX mechanic tried, only the special ordering and manufacturing of new cables, which the service Manager said could cost as much as the alternator would, could resolve the issue.  We both agreed this was not viable.  The Lucas product was immediately returned to the local Eurocar parts store just across the road for a full refund.
So the Vx Service Manger Marc,
 and I researched the few alternators now available for an Omega online (ignoring a Bosch original at £611 , and so called replacements on eBay due to the associated risks of such purchases , and the distinct possibility of having badly positioned terminals that we could not verify!!!!) .

First I ordered the (it was agreed it was cheaper for me to buy it rather than it go through the dealers books) Elstock alternator from GSF, a supplier used by the Vx dealer which had the same positioning of terminals as the original. Waited for the part to arrive at the GSF branch just up the road...and waited until the day they said it would arrive.. waited in the Caffyns main dealer......then GSF rang me and explained the alternator would not be delivered due to no stocks being available! 

So,sat down again at the service managers computer and looked at alternatives with the right terminals - time and time again, wrong terminal positioning or simply no stock available for a Vx 3.2 Omega!!   Eventually Marc found a AS alternator at Autodoc that fitted the specifications required.  Ordered it and after four days it arrived via Poland and Germany.  My daughter delivered it to the Vx dealership after being correctly sent to my home address, and it was successfully fitted the next day.  Hurray!!! ! It also cost just £107, £90 cheaper than the others ordered and without  the surcharge hassle.

But, there is more to this story.....
..


Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 12 November 2023, 15:50:48
The alternator from the 2.2Dti is almost a straight swap. But you have to swap the pulley over from the old one as the belt is different.
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 12 November 2023, 16:41:38
....well, Futher to the above......
When I went to the Vx dealer to await the availability of the GSF alternator,  I did not feel good. In fact just walking from a taxi to the doors of the dealer, a matter of yards, a breathlessness that had been affecting me for about two weeks was considerable worse.  I virtually collapsed into the dealers waiting area seating and struggled to get some sort of breath.   After 10 minutes I was just able to meet the service manager and by then explain the latest difficulties in obtaining an alternator for my car that was still in their workshop.  I just managed to complete the exercise to purchase the AS product, and then go home via a lift given to me by Caffyns.

Once I walked into my flat, via, thank God,  a lift, I could only fall onto my bed.  Decided to phone my doctors in an attempt to see them before my booked appointment, but no luck.  Just offered a possible phonecall that afternoon.  I explained that would be too late.  I needed to speak to my doctor "now".  Predictably when I explained my symptoms I was advised to ring 999!
So I did, and was given a full emergency status after the initial 999 booking with a senior ambulanc call handler asking for further information.  An ambulance turned up within minutes, and two full paramedics immediately connected me to their electronic devices, with ECG printouts produced.  The senior of the two looked at all the readings,and additional manual checks on me.  He said one part of the ECG readings were "needing further urgent assessment. He rang the Cardiac department at the Ashford main regional hospital.  The ECG was wired to them.  The response was a great shock. .I has suffered a heart attack about two weeks before!  The instruction of the cardiac doctors was to rush me in at full emergency speed direct to their operating theatre for an attempt to give me surgery. 

On blues & two's the ambulance took just about 5 minutes to get to the hospital, which normally takes me 15 to 20 minutes to arrive at.

Once there I found myself surrounded by the two paramedics and 8 cardiac doctors / surgeons.  I was taken into the operating theatre and for almost three hours their leading surgeon attempted to unblock three main blood supplies to my heart.  He failed to do so.  I was then given a brief explanation that my heart was damaged, and i
t was being fed blood via just one remaining main source.  Only a full corrective operation would save me .  I was transferred to the CCU for full monitoring, assessment, x-rays, further eggs, and temporary medication to delay further damage and possible death.
Currently I am awaiting transfer to the St Thomas Hospital London who have accepted me as an emergency case, where they will assess the situation and decide on the correct operation(s) to be carried out. I have been advised that a triple heart bypass is very much an option. 

So, not only has my beloved Omega broken down, but so have I!  Cannot really believe it all - I still don't think I have had a heart attack, as it just did not happen as I thought heart attacks did!

Oh well, I hope in about six weeks I will be able to legally and physically drive my Omega again. But we shall see.
,
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: STEMO on 12 November 2023, 17:11:33
Close call, Lizzie, sounds as if you've been through it, probably mentally as well as physically. Glad things worked out the way they did, I'm sure you know how close you came to it happening in a different place at the wrong time.
I believe that women are far more likely to be unaware that they've suffered a heart attack than men. We tend to winge and moan about such things, whereas women just crack on. Stop worrying about that fickin old jalopy and start worrying about yourself.
A triple bypass is actually not as scary as you might think, a friend of mine collapsed playing tennis the other month and had to have a quadruple. He is up and about and feeling fitter than he has been for years. I sincerely hope you have a similar outcome.
You'll be sick with worry but, as you have made it this far, things should work out ok. Do nothing, let others take the strain, there is absolutely nothing that can't wait until you're feeling better.
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: TheBoy on 12 November 2023, 17:24:51
Yeah, sod the car. Get yourself fixed first!
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Andy B on 12 November 2023, 17:30:28
Bloody hell Lizzie ..... you have been through the mill.
Hope you are feeling much better soon .... as Steve says, just concentrate on getting yourself well & forget about your car.
My Dad had a 3 way by-pass a few years ago & he was up & about pretty quickly afterwards  :y
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: robson on 12 November 2023, 17:37:40
Oh My God good thing you phoned 999 and got a quick response.You know that I am nearby I will send you my phone number by message ring me if I can be of any help.Love Ron
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: YZ250 on 12 November 2023, 17:45:10
Close call, Lizzie, sounds as if you've been through it, probably mentally as well as physically…….

Lizzie, fingers crossed for you. Be prepared after the operation to be affected emotionally. I went from not giving a shit to being emotionally shot to shit. I would well up over nothing during a normal conversation. Physically I was on the mend but emotionally I’m not sure it’ll ever leave me, so it may pay to forewarn your family of this.
I spent three months solid in Harefield Hospital (2 major operations just 2 days apart) and can’t praise them up enough. Good luck, I hope they get you sorted.  :y
Oh, and I wasn’t allowed to drive for twelve weeks, which did not please my Mrs as she became my chauffeur.  ;D
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: BazaJT on 12 November 2023, 17:52:59
Hopefully you'll soon be sorted and on the mend.Best wishes for a speedy recovery. :y
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 12 November 2023, 18:21:53
Close call, Lizzie, sounds as if you've been through it, probably mentally as well as physically. Glad things worked out the way they did, I'm sure you know how close you came to it happening in a different place at the wrong time.
I believe that women are far more likely to be unaware that they've suffered a heart attack than men. We tend to winge and moan about such things, whereas women just crack on. Stop worrying about that fickin old jalopy and start worrying about yourself.
A triple bypass is actually not as scary as you might think, a friend of mine collapsed playing tennis the other month and had to have a quadruple. He is up and about and feeling fitter than he has been for years. I sincerely hope you have a similar outcome.
You'll be sick with worry but, as you have made it this far, things should work out ok. Do nothing, let others take the strain, there is absolutely nothing that can't wait until you're feeling better.


Thanks for that Steve. That is reassuring.  I would be a liar if said I wasn't some what fearful of whatever is to come. But I am from a family of strong survivors, most who lived until their late 80's after big health events. I will survive! :D

My Omega certainly cannot be of any concern at the moment.  It will be when I can return to driving that it will again become very important to me ;)
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 12 November 2023, 18:26:22
Oh My God good thing you phoned 999 and got a quick response.You know that I am nearby I will send you my phone number by message ring me if I can be of any help.Love Ron

Ah, thanks Ron.  That is kind  :-* :-*
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 12 November 2023, 18:31:15
Close call, Lizzie, sounds as if you've been through it, probably mentally as well as physically…….

Lizzie, fingers crossed for you. Be prepared after the operation to be affected emotionally. I went from not giving a shit to being emotionally shot to shit. I would well up over nothing during a normal conversation. Physically I was on the mend but emotionally I’m not sure it’ll ever leave me, so it may pay to forewarn your family of this.
I spent three months solid in Harefield Hospital (2 major operations just 2 days apart) and can’t praise them up enough. Good luck, I hope they get you sorted.  :y
Oh, and I wasn’t allowed to drive for twelve weeks, which did not please my Mrs as she became my chauffeur.  ;D

Thanks :-*


Oh yes, already I have had moments of really feeling sorry for myself.  Something that my parents did not do when they faced shit, and that is,normally., the way I am.  Hard, Businesswoman, who takes the falls and punches without much self pity.............not now though!! ::)
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 12 November 2023, 18:34:24
Thanks TB, Andy, Baza :-* :-* :)
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Raeturbo on 12 November 2023, 18:40:10
All the best Lizz, get plenty of good grub down you👍
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: dave the builder on 12 November 2023, 18:55:13
Let us know how your AS alternator from Autodoc goes   :y
oh , and get well soon  ;D
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 12 November 2023, 18:55:41
All the best Lizz, get plenty of good grub down you👍

Thanks :-*
People joke about hospital food, but at least here in Ashford it is very good for mass catering.  Really tasty, sensible portions, and great trolley staff dishing it out, with plenty of laughed.  I'd of course sooner be at home, but the doctors won't let me , so, oh well, I'll let the good old NHS save me a good few quid on energy and food bills.  There is always a silver lining, so I am trying to make the best of it.  Thank God I am ot in a Gaza hospital, and my beloved car should not be bombed!!   :)
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 12 November 2023, 18:59:50
Let us know how your AS alternator from Autodoc goes   :y
oh , and get well soon  ;D

Thanks Dave, and will do. 

Thank goodness for Autodoc who could supply the alternator in the first place, at the right price, with excellent service from Europe.  The way it's going, Omega parts will only be available from companies such as them. :o
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Post by: Raeturbo on 12 November 2023, 19:00:52
 :) That’s the way, always look for something good out of a bad situation, a good mindset is a great advantage👍
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Post by: Raeturbo on 12 November 2023, 19:03:29
I buy from AUTODOC too I’ve found looking at the prices from day to day is wise as their discount can vary from 20 to 40 percent in a day😱 great service but take a bit longer obviously as they’re so far away.
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Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 12 November 2023, 19:07:07
:) That’s the way, always look for something good out of a bad situation, a good mindset is a great advantage👍

Yep.Agreed. I learnt from young, from a wartime family, that was the way to be.  Self pity was not allowed,which has been hard at times. But I have won through against adversity inbusiness and my personal life after seeing my loving parents do it. :)
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 12 November 2023, 19:11:26
I buy from AUTODOC too I’ve found looking at the prices from day to day is wise as their discount can vary from 20 to 40 percent in a day😱 great service but take a bit longer obviously as they’re so far away.

Oh yes, I do love their "limited time offers"!  Like with the alternator, the previous cam belt kit, and other bits and pieces big money savings are to be had.  ;)
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: YZ250 on 12 November 2023, 19:22:06
All the best Lizz, get plenty of good grub down you👍

Thanks :-*
People joke about hospital food, but at least here in Ashford it is very good for mass catering.  Really tasty, sensible portions, and great trolley staff dishing it out …..

Yep, Harefield meals were really good, you get a proper menu in colour as well.  :y  High Wycombe cardio unit on the other hand, a lot of my meals looked like they’d been run over before getting to me.  ;D  Staff were ok though.  :y
Tip of the day Lizzie, to pass away the time, get someone to bring in an iPad and ear buds and give Netflix a caning.  :y 
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: ronnyd on 12 November 2023, 21:42:41
Wow, just read this Lizzie, SWMBO had a triple bypass in Papworth a few years ago and came through very well, as will you. :y Get well soon gal.  :)
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Post by: Jimbob on 13 November 2023, 07:49:33
Sounds a rough run!  all the best
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Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 13 November 2023, 08:17:08
All the best Lizz, get plenty of good grub down you👍

Thanks :-*
People joke about hospital food, but at least here in Ashford it is very good for mass catering.  Really tasty, sensible portions, and great trolley staff dishing it out …..

Yep, Harefield meals were really good, you get a proper menu in colour as well.  :y  High Wycombe cardio unit on the other hand, a lot of my meals looked like they’d been run over before getting to me.  ;D  Staff were ok though.  :y
Tip of the day Lizzie, to pass away the time, get someone to bring in an iPad and ear buds and give Netflix a caning.  :y

 ;D. Oh yes, my smart phone has been very busy already catching up with all the soaps, and other programmes I
 love but missed for about 10 days. This includes Bangers & Cash which reminds me of all those wonderful cars of my childhood, Austin's, Morris, Wolsleys, Ford's, Vauxhall's, Armstrong, Standards, Bentleys........etc etc....the list goes on & on!!!  It has taken my mind off the present situation and reminded me of simpler times 8) 8)

As for the iPad; I have decided against having unnecessary tech equipment here in hospital.  I don't want to place temptation in someone's way! ;)
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: countrywoman on 13 November 2023, 08:54:42
Best wishes dear and a swift recovery, my uncle has ended up with a pacemaker after 3 heart attacks and he cant use a welder or power tools now incase it affects it. No more escaping to the garage to get away from my aunt!!
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Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 13 November 2023, 09:40:57
Sounds a rough run!  all the best

Thanks Jimbo  :-*
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Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 13 November 2023, 09:41:34
Wow, just read this Lizzie, SWMBO had a triple bypass in Papworth a few years ago and came through very well, as will you. :y Get well soon gal.  :)

Thanks :-*
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Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 13 November 2023, 09:43:20
Best wishes dear and a swift recovery, my uncle has ended up with a pacemaker after 3 heart attacks and he cant use a welder or power tools now incase it affects it. No more escaping to the garage to get away from my aunt!!

Thanks :-*

Just being able to legally drive again will be good, if not absolutely essential now.
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Post by: Rangie on 13 November 2023, 12:35:32
Only just read this Lizzie, thank goodness you were able to make that 999 call & that you are making a recovery, but be sure to take it steady gentle exercise etc. As someone said earlier a close call but people of our age are tough and determined..👍
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Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 13 November 2023, 14:18:24
Only just read this Lizzie, thank goodness you were able to make that 999 call & that you are making a recovery, but be sure to take it steady gentle exercise etc. As someone said earlier a close call but people of our age are tough and determined..👍

Thanks Rangie :-*

Oh yes, the bastard's will not get me yet! ;D. Nor will they get my Omega >:D

 
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Raeturbo on 13 November 2023, 15:31:33
Here Lizz play this upon yourself…. Nice and Loud.

        https://youtu.be/jRB2yr5FhYs?si=FuBOkkhqiiqFpmYr
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Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 13 November 2023, 17:32:26
Here Lizz play this upon yourself…. Nice and Loud.

        https://youtu.be/jRB2yr5FhYs?si=FuBOkkhqiiqFpmYr

Yeah, that is what I like!  Just woken up the ward with that!  Rock on Rae
turbo 8) 8) ;D

Perhaps I won't play Led Zeps Stairway to Heaven though ;D ;D
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Raeturbo on 13 November 2023, 18:16:45
🤣🤣🤣👍
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 14 November 2023, 14:20:22
Hi Lizzie

Sorry to hear you've been through the mill but I'm reassured to see you're still posting!

£600 for an alternator is ludicrous. £100 in parts will see your car on the road and it'll take me a couple of hours. Just say when - weekends are best. Please for goodness sake stop taking your Omega to dealerships, they are just not clued up on these models anymore.........
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: johnnydog on 14 November 2023, 15:13:19
I agree with James about the cost - I have just dug the receipt out for my alternator that was overhauled a couple of years ago wlith genuine Bosch parts and a new pulley bearing - £55. And at least you'll know the terminal will be correct if it s the one that was on originally! It's slightly fiddly to fit just because the access, but James should have it cracked off in no time!
Sorry to read about your health woes too, but I hope you soon make a speedy recovery :y
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: cam.in.head on 14 November 2023, 18:21:48
yes .get well soon.
and hopefully the pattern alternator now fitted will work but as mentioned above dealers have no idea about our cars anymore .they will work on them yes but for a daft price to put you off.
worth popping a new regulator on the old one to keep as a spare in future thou.
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 22 November 2023, 10:58:12
Thanks James and Jonneydog :-* :-*

I am pleased to say that Caffyns successfully fitted the AS alternator, bought by me from Autodoc for £107, all in,, for a fitting only charge of £200. 
The way things have been for me, in am completely happy with this result, that the Caffyns service Manger helped me with, as  this issue I have put to bed at last.  ;)

James, thanks for your offer on this one and I will certainly remember it for any future difficulty :-*
I must now accept that working on cars, or anything that is a serious job just cannot happen.  Bloody "old" age! >:(

I am only 70 ::) ;D
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Rangie on 22 November 2023, 11:01:24
Glad it's all sorted Lizzie , I'm 70 in march but I've been assured it's the new 40 & for £200 can't be bad..👍
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 22 November 2023, 11:13:11
Glad it's all sorted Lizzie , I'm 70 in march but I've been assured it's the new 40 & for £200 can't be bad..👍

 ;D  :y
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: dave the builder on 22 November 2023, 12:08:49
I'm 70 in march but I've been assured it's the new 40
???
that's like winding the clock back on a car  ::)
the body and moving parts will still be worn out  :D

Lizzie , I hope your feeling much better  :)
don't forget to spend a few hours putting a nice coat of wax on the Omega before winter  :P ;D :D
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 23 November 2023, 08:04:38
I'm 70 in march but I've been assured it's the new 40
???
that's like winding the clock back on a car  ::)
the body and moving parts will still be worn out  :D

Lizzie , I hope your feeling much better  :)
don't forget to spend a few hours putting a nice coat of wax on the Omega before winter  :P ;D :D

Thanks Dave :-* :-*
As for the car; stuff that at the moment!  Once I have the specialist treatment from the surgeons of St Thomas Hospital, London, I will be lucky to  be able to polish my coffee table! ::) ;D

The car is in the garage for at least 8 weeks now, in addition to the time spent outside my daughter's house since Caffyns delivered it back there ;)
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 23 November 2023, 13:10:12
Disconnect the battery. Otherwise you'll be buying another one.
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 23 November 2023, 13:16:53
Disconnect the battery. Otherwise you'll be buying another one.
Thanks DG.  Good thinking and will arrange for a friend' to do so :y
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 23 November 2023, 13:27:21
Just make sure that the key actually unlocks the driver's door and/or leave the bonnet popped with a piece of wood or similar to prevent it being closed accidentally.
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Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 23 November 2023, 13:51:35
Just make sure that the key actually unlocks the driver's door and/or leave the bonnet popped with a piece of wood or similar to prevent it being closed accidentally.

 :y  :y

 
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Raeturbo on 23 November 2023, 23:32:46
And leave the handbrake off
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: dave the builder on 23 November 2023, 23:40:29
And post me the keys  :D
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Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 24 November 2023, 08:20:07
And leave the handbrake off

Always do when parked on the flat, such as In the garage :y
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 24 November 2023, 08:20:57
And post me the keys  :D

 ;D ;D.
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 21 December 2023, 17:08:30
Well, eventually came out of St Thomas Hospital London, with 7 stents pushed up into the arteries around the heart.  So, apart from taking it easy, that is me fixed! :y :y

As for the Omega, which I can now legally drive again after the week's medical restriction, after reconnecting the battery she started first time after 7 weeks standstill.  The new alternator is working fine.

Big relief.  Have now booked her in for the exhaust to be redone by the specialist garage outfit who should have done a far better professional job, which my Vx dealer faulted in a lovely health check video!! :o :o
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Andy B on 21 December 2023, 18:05:59
Well, eventually came out of St Thomas Hospital London, with 7 stents pushed up into the arteries around the heart.  So, apart from taking it easy, that is me fixed! :y :y ....

Glad you're on the mend!  :y :y
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: YZ250 on 21 December 2023, 18:19:31
Fingers crossed they’ve sorted you out then.  :y
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Post by: Rangie on 21 December 2023, 18:22:24
Nice to hear that you're up & about Lizzie but heed the warning & take everything nice & slow & easy . Have a great Christmas and a happy & healthy New year..🎄🎄🎄🎄
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: countrywoman on 21 December 2023, 19:01:20
Good news dear, take it easy and lay off the minced pies!! Have a restful Christmas and a good New Year (maybe the odd sherry)
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Post by: Doctor Gollum on 21 December 2023, 20:03:09
Going to an exhaust specialist is a bit extreme, surely the surgery team could have done it in a 'whilst they're in there...' kinda way :D

No brandy butter or goose fat gravy, otherwise take it steady  :y
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: BazaJT on 21 December 2023, 20:31:57
Good to hear they've sorted you with the stents take it easy and look after yourself  :y and have a very happy Xmas and New Year.
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: STEMO on 21 December 2023, 21:12:48
Well, eventually came out of St Thomas Hospital London, with 7 stents pushed up into the arteries around the heart.  So, apart from taking it easy, that is me fixed! :y :y

As for the Omega, which I can now legally drive again after the week's medical restriction, after reconnecting the battery she started first time after 7 weeks standstill.  The new alternator is working fine.

Big relief.  Have now booked her in for the exhaust to be redone by the specialist garage outfit who should have done a far better professional job, which my Vx dealer faulted in a lovely health check video!! :o :o
7 stents? Was he a surgeon or a plumber?  ;D
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: ronnyd on 21 December 2023, 23:58:22
Take care of yourself Lizzie.  :y
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 22 December 2023, 12:15:31
Thanks for all your best wishes. Much appreciated! :-* :-* :-* :y :y

Merry Christmas to you all! :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: Alternator
Post by: Raeturbo on 22 December 2023, 13:29:58
 :y :y :y :y