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Wheres all the 2.5TD's gone?
« on: 14 April 2015, 20:17:26 »

Almost as rare as the 3.2s lately!
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Re: Wheres all the 2.5TD's gone?
« Reply #2 on: 14 April 2015, 20:57:59 »

Even so, its...

Extra Urban mpg    40.4 mpg    
Average mpg    31.4 mpg    

Which is miles better than my Omega  :D

On the hunt for a late F/L Elite as already discussed  8)
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Re: Wheres all the 2.5TD's gone?
« Reply #3 on: 14 April 2015, 22:16:31 »

Almost as rare as the 3.2s lately!


They're old, knackered and have expensive problems. Plus, they're slow and not particularly economical. Same as the BMWs that engine was fitted to.


A better question might be Why were they that popular?
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Re: Wheres all the 2.5TD's gone?
« Reply #4 on: 14 April 2015, 22:23:56 »

Almost as rare as the 3.2s lately!


They're old, knackered and have expensive problems. Plus, they're slow and not particularly economical. Same as the BMWs that engine was fitted to.


A better question might be Why were they that popular?

No more expensive than a petrol Omega and far more reliable and wanted than the 4-pot 2.2! Plus with minimal expense a 2.5 can be revitalised to the same if not more bhp as the equivalent engine that was in the BMWs, they're only slow because Vx de-tuned them! ::)
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Re: Wheres all the 2.5TD's gone?
« Reply #5 on: 14 April 2015, 22:34:42 »

Even so, its...

Extra Urban mpg    40.4 mpg    
Average mpg    31.4 mpg    

Which is miles better than my Omega  :D

On the hunt for a late F/L Elite as already discussed  8)

I think those figures are a bit optimistic to be honest,  I'd be surprised if you managed more than 25mpg on average with the auto box  :-\

I'm fairly sure that the last ones fitted with this engine would be a 2000 MY, when Vauxhall switched over to the 2.2dti lump.  I stand to be corrected though  :y
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Re: Wheres all the 2.5TD's gone?
« Reply #6 on: 14 April 2015, 22:38:41 »

My mate has that exact engine in his BMW 325TD Auto Tourer and he seems ok with the MPG he is getting... I'm not overly bother tbh, I'd quite like the auto but would have a manual.

If i was i wouldn't already own a 3.2 Miggy and a 3.1 Trooper huh! :y
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Re: Wheres all the 2.5TD's gone?
« Reply #7 on: 14 April 2015, 22:47:39 »

Almost as rare as the 3.2s lately!


They're old, knackered and have expensive problems. Plus, they're slow and not particularly economical. Same as the BMWs that engine was fitted to.


A better question might be Why were they that popular?

No more expensive than a petrol Omega and far more reliable and wanted than the 4-pot 2.2! Plus with minimal expense a 2.5 can be revitalised to the same if not more bhp as the equivalent engine that was in the BMWs, they're only slow because Vx de-tuned them! ::)


Last time I looked petrol Omegas didn't have a turbo or diesel fuel pump/injectors. Although they do both have the same suspension issues that make an Omega an expensive car if you have to pay someone to fix it.


And I've tried diesel 525Ds, they're barely any better than a 518 which is the definition of 'sluggish'.'
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Re: Wheres all the 2.5TD's gone?
« Reply #8 on: 15 April 2015, 09:19:48 »

What about importing a rust free 2.5 DTi Opel Omega from somewhere in Europe more rust free? Wouldn't be cheap to buy compared to UK. Would be more economical and is the same vehicle but with possibly more extras than UK Elites. E.g. DVD player, electric folding mirrors I think. Would also be LHD which would be a pain for overtaking.
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Re: Wheres all the 2.5TD's gone?
« Reply #9 on: 15 April 2015, 15:50:45 »

What about importing a rust free 2.5 DTi Opel Omega from somewhere in Europe more rust free? Wouldn't be cheap to buy compared to UK. Would be more economical and is the same vehicle but with possibly more extras than UK Elites. E.g. DVD player, electric folding mirrors I think. Would also be LHD which would be a pain for overtaking.
Did think about that for myself, but the LHD thing is the real pain.

Been on the look out for a decent FL 2.5TD Manual Estate in Black for years now, not that bothered about model / spec as that can always be sorted. I did pick up a nice cheap 2.5td FL Estate GLS one in Red a few years back, but moved it on, on reflection wish I had kept it now.  ::)

Looks like an LPG convert is still on the cards for my 3.2 Special Manual Estate.  ;)
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Re: Wheres all the 2.5TD's gone?
« Reply #10 on: 15 April 2015, 18:59:33 »

http://www.milanuncios.com/opel-omega-de-segunda-mano/?demanda=n&anod=2001&anoh=2004&combustible=diesel

Selection here(but includes some 2.5 motor BMW 130hp)

As you say the LHD thing is a real pain. Can't imagine it being cheap to convert to RHD despite availabilty of parts.
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Re: Wheres all the 2.5TD's gone?
« Reply #11 on: 15 April 2015, 19:25:47 »

http://www.milanuncios.com/opel-omega-de-segunda-mano/?demanda=n&anod=2001&anoh=2004&combustible=diesel

Selection here(but includes some 2.5 motor BMW 130hp)

As you say the LHD thing is a real pain. Can't imagine it being cheap to convert to RHD despite availabilty of parts.

Buy a cheap RHD donor car and use the bits from that to make RHD.
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Re: Wheres all the 2.5TD's gone?
« Reply #12 on: 15 April 2015, 19:48:48 »

I commend you on your observation skills Nick W, your a credit to this forum  :y ::)

Can you let me know where i said you would be covering my maintenance bills? No, I thought not... I do all my own repairs and running maintenance seeing as your so desperate to put a negative spin on my thread why don't you kindly keep your thoughts to yourself  :-X  I'll be getting one at somepoint and when i do I'll make sure i come to Chatham and show you how 'sluggish' it is!  :P

I'm in no real hurry to buy, I can wait and importing a LHD is an option but one that is last on the list - I'm not that desperate for one! lol
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Re: Wheres all the 2.5TD's gone?
« Reply #13 on: 15 April 2015, 20:26:31 »

You asked where they had gone. I would have given the same answer if you'd asked about 525.diesels, 2.9 Scorpios,  mk3 Tdci Mondeos or E-class Mercs.
They are simply at that point of their life that for most people the costs of ownership outweigh any benefits. This makes their value drop through the floor, and a vicious circle starts that leads to most of them being scrapped.

 How is any of that a dig at you? It certainly wasn't meant that way.
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Re: Wheres all the 2.5TD's gone?
« Reply #14 on: 15 April 2015, 22:14:40 »

Almost as rare as the 3.2s lately!


They're old, knackered and have expensive problems. Plus, they're slow and not particularly economical. Same as the BMWs that engine was fitted to.


A better question might be Why were they that popular?

I'll let you know when I find these issues of which you speak. I've had my TD Estate for 16 years and love it, and apart from welding on 4 corners, have had no serious problems. :y
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