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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: grifter on 04 March 2023, 15:31:54

Title: Matrix pipes little green clip pipe end
Post by: grifter on 04 March 2023, 15:31:54
So, as part of my strip and check of the coolant and breather system on the elite (3.2) I decided to take off the matrix pipes and the coolant valve to check it all over.

I had a bit of a struggle figuring out how the pipes actually unclipped off, but then eventually got it. The top one came off quite easy, the bottom one was the proverbial bar steward.

Before I took the hose off, I could see a green plastic clip on the matrix pipe neck on both in and out pipe as in pic below.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/hZR99TdYKTDFkYBS6

although they weren't secured to the coolant pipe, just sitting on the pipe necks.

Once I had pipe off, I noticed that I could snap this green clip into the front of the pipe. Is that case, that you have to pull this green clip back towards you once pipe is back on? I don't see how that secures it though, or does it hold the clips on the pipe shut as well?

I think the HBV must have been replaced at some time as I can see some staining on the bottom of the pipe where the 3 pipes mould into 1 like it had been leaking in there at some point.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/yNVpooAgZZ23zd6M8

Not sure about those green clips though. With them floating on the pipe it would suggest this has been off before.

To finish off, here's what happens when you start putting your hands into the back of an omega engine bay, there will be blood!

https://photos.app.goo.gl/UwVPqE429ZceepkGA
Title: Re: Matrix pipes little green clip pipe end
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 04 March 2023, 19:31:38
Essentially they're lock clips to prevent the actual fixings from coming adrift. Think the sliding tab on an electrical connector.

Refit them as intended, but don't lose too much sleep over them :y
Title: Re: Matrix pipes little green clip pipe end
Post by: grifter on 04 March 2023, 22:25:32
Essentially they're lock clips to prevent the actual fixings from coming adrift. Think the sliding tab on an electrical connector.

Refit them as intended, but don't lose too much sleep over them :y

Nope, I promise I won't get OCD about it, plenty more stuff to do that with :y
Title: Re: Matrix pipes little green clip pipe end
Post by: Mutha Jugs n Speed on 06 March 2023, 08:17:38
Just a heads up on those hoses, not available anymore, so if there's any problems with the ones that you have, then you will have to get inventive. I had one that was leaking, so I cut the ends of, and with my bad eyesight I screwed it up and had to have the car low loaded to a garage, and they took two goes at fixing them with spring clips/ jubilee clips.
Title: Re: Matrix pipes little green clip pipe end
Post by: grifter on 06 March 2023, 09:52:01
Just a heads up on those hoses, not available anymore, so if there's any problems with the ones that you have, then you will have to get inventive. I had one that was leaking, so I cut the ends of, and with my bad eyesight I screwed it up and had to have the car low loaded to a garage, and they took two goes at fixing them with spring clips/ jubilee clips.

I was suspecting they'd probably be like hens teeth to find, although I did have a dig about just for spares. Ends look ok but I'm thinking they must get brittle with heat/cool cycles and then you apply force to them to remove them after 20 years, doesn;t inspire confidence, but the clips do still feel springy (not pushing my luck though).
 
Title: Re: Matrix pipes little green clip pipe end
Post by: grifter on 06 March 2023, 12:22:28
One of the clips on the end of the pipe that goes from aux pump to top matrix pipe is brken off, my fault testing it for strength but it didn't take much tbh.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/jMETGyVQeT63eNkUA

The other ones seem pretty firm. Wondering if it will be ok with 5 out of 6 clips or a no no?

Thanks

G
Title: Re: Matrix pipes little green clip pipe end
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 13 March 2023, 10:30:45
Essentially they're lock clips to prevent the actual fixings from coming adrift. Think the sliding tab on an electrical connector.

Refit them as intended, but don't lose too much sleep over them :y

No there not

The lock is the sliding portion of the main black coolant connector, the green tabs are a transit part from component manufacture, they serve no purpose once fitted
Title: Re: Matrix pipes little green clip pipe end
Post by: grifter on 13 March 2023, 10:44:53
Essentially they're lock clips to prevent the actual fixings from coming adrift. Think the sliding tab on an electrical connector.

Refit them as intended, but don't lose too much sleep over them :y

No there not

The lock is the sliding portion of the main black coolant connector, the green tabs are a transit part from component manufacture, they serve no purpose once fitted

I'd just read on the global TIS the same that they were for manufaturing purposes only and don't need to be reused.
Title: Re: Matrix pipes little green clip pipe end
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 13 March 2023, 10:50:16
Every day is a school day ;)
Title: Re: Matrix pipes little green clip pipe end
Post by: grifter on 15 March 2023, 10:01:20
Every day is a school day ;)

Definitely - after me spending 1/2 an hour trying to put them back on the pipe lol find out theyre not even needed!