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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: Richard148 on 04 April 2009, 17:19:06

Title: big sound system
Post by: Richard148 on 04 April 2009, 17:19:06
best place for my amps im stuggling cause i need all the space in the back to go fishing,the only place i can think of is in the rear seat foot wells the backs of the seats are no good as i need them folded down and then my system will then get bashed about with all my gear.

who would of thought finding space in a omega estate would be hard   [smiley=lolk.gif]
Title: Re: big sound system
Post by: TheBoy on 04 April 2009, 18:01:11
bose amp fitted in OS cubby hole in boot, if that helps
Title: Re: big sound system
Post by: Richard148 on 04 April 2009, 18:22:20
the amps will be to big
Title: Re: big sound system
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 04 April 2009, 21:06:59
I have fitted my Bose Amp in front of the Sat Nav bolted to the parcelshelf, as need to extra room for camping :y
Title: Re: big sound system
Post by: AndyVXR300 on 04 April 2009, 21:32:41
Build a False floor containg amps, etc covered in perspex, had this set up in my cossie and it worked a treat...
Title: Re: big sound system
Post by: Richard148 on 04 April 2009, 21:56:07
thats what im thinking :y
Title: Re: big sound system
Post by: AndyVXR300 on 04 April 2009, 22:07:31
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Build a False floor containg amps, etc covered in perspex, had this set up in my cossie and it worked a treat...

If you need any help let me know as i have built the same for both my Sierra Cosworth and Escort RS Turbo
Title: Re: big sound system
Post by: TheBoy on 04 April 2009, 22:55:50
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the amps will be to big
Ah. Maybe you need a baseball cap and a Corsa ;D
Title: Re: big sound system
Post by: Andy B on 05 April 2009, 00:51:29
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the amps will be to big
Ah. Maybe you need a baseball cap and a Corsa ;D

Good answer!!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: big sound system
Post by: Richard148 on 05 April 2009, 13:28:49
obviously you have no idea of good quality sound just because the amps are big it doesn't have to be loud.

i have a Linn home stereo and that has 4 pre amps 4 power amps that is masive and sound quality that will take some beating and that is not a loud system but very high quality

http://www.linn.co.uk/klimax_music_system
Title: Re: big sound system
Post by: TheBoy on 05 April 2009, 15:01:44
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obviously you have no idea of good quality sound just because the amps are big it doesn't have to be loud.

i have a Linn home stereo and that has 4 pre amps 4 power amps that is masive and sound quality that will take some beating and that is not a loud system but very high quality

http://www.linn.co.uk/klimax_music_system
Being somewhat tone deaf, you're right ;D

However, car is pretty hostile for hifi, and you can't really shine that up much...
Title: Re: big sound system
Post by: Black Knight on 05 April 2009, 15:13:04
I believe the correct term is 'Ya cannae polish a turd!'

I think it's pretty hard to get a good sound in a car, it's just not designed for it.
Title: Re: big sound system
Post by: Dave DND on 05 April 2009, 17:45:57
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I believe the correct term is 'Ya cannae polish a turd!'

I think it's pretty hard to get a good sound in a car, it's just not designed for it.

Oh, how wrong you are . . . . .

It may not be designed for it, and it may indeed be a very hostile environment . . .

But you can certainly get some awesome sounds inside a car

 8-)
Title: Re: big sound system
Post by: Christian on 05 April 2009, 18:58:26
This is what Car Audio is designed for, ok you wont get the Perfect Imaging your Home Audio System will give but with the right Equiptment and Positioning you can improve its stock.


Im running a Series Tuned Bandpass enclosure in my Mig basically the rear Chamber is Tuned to 24 hz and front to 70hz and have Plotted it correctly to play flat from 20 to 70.

Rear Chamber is 3 cuft and front is 2.5!

Because its a Sallon the Front Chamber Vent is firing straight through the Ski hatch!


Midbass next!    :)
Title: Re: big sound system
Post by: gstylebaby on 05 April 2009, 20:16:54
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I believe the correct term is 'Ya cannae polish a turd!'

I think it's pretty hard to get a good sound in a car, it's just not designed for it.

Oh, how wrong you are . . . . .

It may not be designed for it, and it may indeed be a very hostile environment . . .

But you can certainly get some awesome sounds inside a car

 8-)

 :y :y :y :y Love a good sound system in a car.
Title: Re: big sound system
Post by: Richard148 on 05 April 2009, 21:49:10
too true :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: big sound system
Post by: Richard148 on 05 April 2009, 22:18:17
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I believe the correct term is 'Ya cannae polish a turd!'

I think it's pretty hard to get a good sound in a car, it's just not designed for it.

Oh, how wrong you are . . . . .

It may not be designed for it, and it may indeed be a very hostile environment . . .

But you can certainly get some awesome sounds inside a car

 8-)
is there any where designed for sound systems except recording studios theaters concert areas i cant think of any/many more
Title: Re: big sound system
Post by: dubford on 17 April 2009, 00:13:08
thought this might help ... finished it middle of last week

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sorry about the pic qulityt
Title: Re: big sound system
Post by: Goonybird on 17 April 2009, 19:05:56
Personally I have always preferred the Quality route. Although My VX Royale coupe had 2x12" in a large cabinet driven by a 2 channel amp, then a seperate graphic equalizer driving a four channel amp to 3-way 6x9's at rear, 2-way units in cabinets screwed to front doors, and two tweeters mounted on the dashboard, Nothing nowadays, except this was circa 25 years ago... ::)

However I am itching to fit an old low power valve power amp, well bolted, on rear parcel shelf of my Mig, driving a pair af BBC LS3/5a speakers.  ;)
Title: Re: big sound system
Post by: Christian on 19 April 2009, 19:42:40
I love the oldskool route.

For me its high efficient drivers and low tuned large Ported Cab's.....of course you need to upgrade a stock Midbass unit!

But i love a flat 20-40 hz!

What are your box Spec's Dubford ( Cab size and vent tuning?)
Title: Re: big sound system
Post by: dubford on 19 April 2009, 21:59:25
pheonix gold amps

900.1 1Kw amp for bass
4x150w for the mids
2x kfc-3011 kenwood subs (not really my choice but cheep as chips)
box tunes factory standard 2cu ft per inclosure cant remember what there tuned too (designed ages ago but only just built)

standard mids for the time beeing but got some alpine type R stuff kicking around so might throw that in.

0 gauge power to the back in a nice blue .... sexy
Title: Re: big sound system
Post by: Kevin Wood on 20 April 2009, 00:18:58
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However I am itching to fit an old low power valve power amp, well bolted, on rear parcel shelf of my Mig, driving a pair af BBC LS3/5a speakers.  ;)

LS3/5As would be wasted in a car IMHO. However, you might be interested in my mate's web site. His father was involved with the original design at the BBC. http://www.ls35a.com/

Kevin
Title: Re: big sound system
Post by: the-toy-maker on 21 April 2009, 10:58:06
you ant beat a bit of bass ;)

When i had my carlton gsi it had

 12" solo barick
 2 x 12" Kicker comps
 Vibe amps  
 components in the front
 2 x TV's
 dvd player
 and a play station

sounded like you were in the cinema! ;D ;D
Title: Re: big sound system
Post by: Richard148 on 22 April 2009, 19:14:39
im using 2x12 vibe space iso baric in a big bertha box custom
space 3 way front and rear
4x1.5 farad caps
two 1000w mono blocks rms sub amps (vibe)
two 500w rms for the the three ways
split charged etc etc
sounds awsome
and i hate using that word but it does :y
fully dynamated
24 band eq
headrest tvs
1 in boot
and up front
just about to change headunit not deciced to what yet though :y
Title: Re: big sound system
Post by: Christian on 22 April 2009, 19:25:57
What size is the Cab in the Iso setup?

My genral rule is for say 3 cuft for a single 12 and around 2.5 for iso'd pair.

Saying this because motor strength of the Iso'd couple tends to push the Woofer to xmax fairly quick!

So Box damping is raised with box being smaller!

I heard 4x15 inch JBL gt4's in a mazda (of my mates) iso'd in 7.5 cuft with 1600wrms, it got loud and to x max fast.
Title: Re: big sound system
Post by: Richard148 on 22 April 2009, 21:31:03
the two chambers differ in size as well as do the the ports and length and diameter to give a wider sub frequency response the spl of each apposing sub stops over exertion giving a more controlled stability
i will measure up and let you know :y :y