Topic: headlight upgrade (Read 3071 times)

tambrath · « **on:** 25 June 2011, 19:15:50 »

hi all my first post so sorry if its been asked befor. I did look. Can i up grade to xenon lights from standard ?. if so what is needed just complate light and ballist pack then plug and play
regards

joff · « **Reply #1 on:** 25 June 2011, 19:18:54 »

Headlight washers, wheel sensors, ECU, loom, but you drive an elite it state's so do you not have them :-?

tambrath · « **Reply #2 on:** 25 June 2011, 19:21:25 »

NO mines a 97 p reg so lucked out. my have to get them. thanks

RobG · « **Reply #3 on:** 25 June 2011, 19:24:32 »

You`ll struggle to find prefacelift headlamp washers. Best bet is to get a decent set of standard "projector" lights and fit "Osram Nightbreaker" bulbs

tambrath · « **Reply #4 on:** 26 June 2011, 10:25:10 »

my headlamp washers work ok is it not just a simply swap over.

RobG · « **Reply #5 on:** 26 June 2011, 10:44:28 »

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my headlamp washers work ok is it not just a simply swap over.

Nope. You need a set of HID`s (obviously), the plug and short piece of loom that connects to the ballast pack. Then it`s just a case of splicing the two wires (yellow & brown IIRC) into the two of the same colour from your existing low beam plug and swapping your level motors onto the HID`s (plug & play)

o-meg-a · « **Reply #6 on:** 26 June 2011, 16:05:19 »

Easy to do,
Just did it on mine.

you're missing one plug see, for the ballast pack.

So just 2 wires from the ballast, soldered to the corresponding two wires from the original plug

Best to leave the old plug in place and solder the ballast in a bit further down the wires so you can still plug the old ones in should you need to at some point

RobG · « **Reply #7 on:** 26 June 2011, 18:15:18 »

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Easy to do,
Just did it on mine.

you're missing one plug see, for the ballast pack.

So just 2 wires from the ballast, soldered to the corresponding two wires from the original plug

Best to leave the old plug in place and solder the ballast in a bit further down the wires so you can still plug the old ones in should you need to at some point

Wasn`t that what I said

tambrath · « **Reply #8 on:** 26 June 2011, 19:21:32 »

thanks all got my eye on a pair

RobG · « **Reply #9 on:** 26 June 2011, 19:32:51 »

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thanks all got my eye on a pair

You`ll still need the plug that connects to the ballast on the donor lights

Elite Pete · « **Reply #10 on:** 26 June 2011, 20:25:02 »

Facelift ones won't fit, they're a different shape

plym ian · « **Reply #11 on:** 26 June 2011, 21:09:42 »

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my headlamp washers work ok is it not just a simply swap over.
Nope. You need a set of HID`s (obviously), the plug and short piece of loom that connects to the ballast pack. Then it`s just a case of splicing the two wires (yellow & brown IIRC) into the two of the same colour from your existing low beam plug and swapping your level motors onto the HID`s (plug & play)

Clarkey · « **Reply #12 on:** 26 June 2011, 21:40:32 »

Car will fail NCT (DOE equivalent) test if fitted with Xenon lights if they are not self levelling. AFAIK european law requires it. Also could there be possible insurance complications?

tambrath · « **Reply #13 on:** 26 June 2011, 22:49:33 »

go this is a mine field will have to give it a thought or just get hold off som projector light s

RobG · « **Reply #14 on:** 26 June 2011, 23:06:04 »

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Car will fail NCT (DOE equivalent) test if fitted with Xenon lights if they are not self levelling. AFAIK european law requires it. Also could there be possible insurance complications?

HID lights – Specifically those aftermarket kits that give the very bright headlightbeams. Any cars found with these kits will be an automatic MOT failure. Testers are able to easily spot the difference between HID kits, and manufacturer fitted Xenon’s. Easy to spot as Xenon cars have suspension level sensors, in car beam adjuster, and usually headlight washers.
Aftermarket kits will be a fail. It appears from the text that if genuine complete HID units are fitted complete with a washer system then it`s not a failure as you will have the "in-car beam adjuster"

Michael v6 · « **Reply #15 on:** 27 June 2011, 17:55:09 »

Hi all,

i have just been reading throught this thread and i to have been looking into fitting H.I.D's as i have the projector style headlights already fitted but only with the standard bulbs.

after reading the above reply from RobG, i am slightly confused

Like i said, i have the projector headlights, i have the headlight washer jets that work and i have the aim height adjuster under the headlight switch in the dash......

with all this, if i fitted a H.I.D kit as found on the well known auction site, would this be a pass or a fail come MOT time.

many thanks

RobG · « **Reply #16 on:** 27 June 2011, 20:27:21 »

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Hi all,

i have just been reading throught this thread and i to have been looking into fitting H.I.D's as i have the projector style headlights already fitted but only with the standard bulbs.

after reading the above reply from RobG, i am slightly confused

Like i said, i have the projector headlights, i have the headlight washer jets that work and i have the aim height adjuster under the headlight switch in the dash......

with all this, if i fitted a H.I.D kit as found on the well known auction site, would this be a pass or a fail come MOT time.

many thanks

Fail. Although the wording of the text is slightly ambiguous, it states "aftermarket kits" are a fail. If you were to fit a pair of genuine HID`s sourced from an Omega, along with washers and levelling system, albeit manual, it should be a pass.

albitz · « **Reply #17 on:** 27 June 2011, 20:41:48 »

I was under the impression that self levelling wasnt a requirement for the MOT. :-/

Michael v6 · « **Reply #18 on:** 27 June 2011, 20:47:43 »

I been doing some googling about the height adjustment leveling sensors and i believe that it should be located in the nearside front wheel arch, with a link arm from the lower wishbone arm to the leveling sensor....

Although i dont have this sensor fitted i did find this one but dont know what its for.

is this to do with leveling the lights or something completely different.

just to explain more, this i located on the rear axle of the car with the connecting rod fixed to the rear off-side lower arm, and it an estate that i have. (oh and excuse the elastic band holding the arm on lol) when i first see this, the arm was hangong off so quick fix to hold it in place

many thanks

Entwood · « **Reply #19 on:** 27 June 2011, 21:31:15 »

MOT rules are changing 1 Jan 2012 .....

It is my information that from that point onwards aftermarket HIDs will fail unless they also have self leveling and washers.

My information COULD be wrong but I would advise anyone considering an aftermarket or DIY HID install to check the legalities properly before starting.

albitz · « **Reply #20 on:** 27 June 2011, 21:41:54 »

I have recently fitted elite HID,s to my CD.

Will keep the old lights in case I need to do an annual swapover.

The non HID omega headlights are imo positively dangerous.

Michael v6 · « **Reply #21 on:** 27 June 2011, 22:45:20 »

well after doing some more googling, (which took me back to this site) i found that the sensor i took a picture of, is the self leveling suspension unit, and is shown here -

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1250308202/0

i should of looked on here in the first place

well that means no headlight adjusters fitted to my car then

MutantCav · « **Reply #22 on:** 30 June 2011, 16:28:55 »

Surely if you have an elite, you have self levelling which is what is required to have HID's...so should be ok...

Also replacing your projectors with HID's is surely not replacing them with a kit...its a genuine Vaux item...

I have a pair of genuine HID's here if you are interested...aluminium adjusters in them so no chance of them breaking

PM me if interested

o-meg-a · « **Reply #23 on:** 30 June 2011, 18:54:24 »

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Surely if you have an elite, you have self levelling which is what is required to have HID's...so should be ok...

Also replacing your projectors with HID's is surely not replacing them with a kit...its a genuine Vaux item...

I have a pair of genuine HID's here if you are interested...aluminium adjusters in them so no chance of them breaking PM me if interested

Surely you are getting confused with Elite rear self leveling shocks (nothing to do with the lights), and the front self leveling SENSORS which are specifically for the HID lights!?

A car which does not have HID's should not have the front rapid adjustment sensors for the Lights.....but an elite WOULD have rear self levelling suspension?

or have i read your post wrong and that wasn't what you meant at all?

Martin_1962 · « **Reply #24 on:** 30 June 2011, 19:38:23 »

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MOT rules are changing 1 Jan 2012 .....

It is my information that from that point onwards aftermarket HIDs will fail unless they also have self leveling and washers.

My information COULD be wrong but I would advise anyone considering an aftermarket or DIY HID install to check the legalities properly before starting.

Due to the problems I would advise getting your MOT done when daylight exists.

There is no way on earth I am removing my HIDs in the winter.

Martin_1962 · « **Reply #25 on:** 30 June 2011, 19:39:31 »

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I have recently fitted elite HID,s to my CD.
Will keep the old lights in case I need to do an annual swapover.
The non HID omega headlights are imo positively dangerous.

Correct

Will be having a chat with my tester

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