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Re: "Nasty 4 pot diesel" problem (project car)
« Reply #30 on: 29 May 2014, 19:06:59 »

Apparently all the same, it's the same clutch used in the 2.6 / 3.2 and 3.0 and apparently 2.2 DTI.

My 3.2 estate had a gearbox from a DTI fitted, with the DTI clutch aswell. Seemingly it was exactly the same!

OK sorry chaps, I know it doesn't take much but I'm really confused

The consensus on here is that the 2.6/3.0 clutch kit is the same one that's fitted to the 2.2 DTi.

Yet - researching the parts on buypartsby website, only the 2.2 DTi one is the SAC (self adjusting clutch). The others just appear to be a normal clutch kit.

So - it can't possibly be the same clutch kit? As the 3.0 for example isn't self adjusting and doesn't need the tool? :)

Also - the buypartsby website specifically says that the 2.2DTi repset clutch kit they sell does NOT come with a release bearing! (unless you buy the "pro" one, which is over £100 more!!)

Yet - the 3.0 clutch kit listed does come with a bearing, and is just over £100.

I don't have a tool to evenly install the pressure plate on a self adjusting clutch.

Is there any good reason why I cannot or should not buy a clutch kit for a 3.0 litre model and just fit that? Would it cause any harm? The car will not be used for any towing at any point.

I'd really appreciate some opinions as I want to start the repairs ASAP :y


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Re: "Nasty 4 pot diesel" problem (project car)
« Reply #31 on: 29 May 2014, 19:13:36 »

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The consensus on here is that the 2.6/3.0 clutch kit is the same one that's fitted to the 2.2 DTi.
Wrong. Totally different part number on VX TC site
2.6/3.0 is 93185903
2.2DTI  is 93185906

No other Omega uses the 2.2DTI part number
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Re: "Nasty 4 pot diesel" problem (project car)
« Reply #32 on: 29 May 2014, 19:15:07 »

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The consensus on here is that the 2.6/3.0 clutch kit is the same one that's fitted to the 2.2 DTi.
Wrong. Totally different part number on VX TC site
2.6/3.0 is 93185903
2.2DTI  is 93185906

No other Omega uses the 2.2DTI part number

Cheers Rob. Can you check if the flywheel is the same part please? :y
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Re: "Nasty 4 pot diesel" problem (project car)
« Reply #33 on: 29 May 2014, 19:15:48 »

And while your'e at it, please could you give me a part no for the release bearing on the 2.2 DTi, so I can see about getting one from VX if needsbe? :y
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Re: "Nasty 4 pot diesel" problem (project car)
« Reply #34 on: 29 May 2014, 19:17:31 »

Only DMF listed is for the 2.2DTI #9201098
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Re: "Nasty 4 pot diesel" problem (project car)
« Reply #35 on: 29 May 2014, 19:18:41 »

Only DMF listed is for the 2.2DTI #9201098

And is that different to the V6 ones? :)
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Re: "Nasty 4 pot diesel" problem (project car)
« Reply #36 on: 29 May 2014, 19:22:59 »

And while your'e at it, please could you give me a part no for the release bearing on the 2.2 DTi, so I can see about getting one from VX if needsbe? :y
Think it`s this one James 90465672
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Re: "Nasty 4 pot diesel" problem (project car)
« Reply #37 on: 29 May 2014, 19:29:13 »

Only DMF listed is for the 2.2DTI #9201098

And is that different to the V6 ones? :)
Unsure James. As said, TC site only lists the DMF for 2.2DTI :-\
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Re: "Nasty 4 pot diesel" problem (project car)
« Reply #38 on: 29 May 2014, 19:41:59 »

I'm told the DMF is very robust in these.
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Re: "Nasty 4 pot diesel" problem (project car)
« Reply #39 on: 29 May 2014, 20:07:15 »

I'm told the DMF is very robust in these.

My line of thought is that if it's the same DMF as v6, I could get away with a 3.0 clutch kit :y
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Re: "Nasty 4 pot diesel" problem (project car)
« Reply #40 on: 29 May 2014, 20:07:42 »

V6 flywheel wont fit it to DTI !

you can try use clutch of V6 with dti flywheel
have both will check tomorrow in workshop if can be exhange

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if you get stuck have tool here if you need to borrow :y
« Last Edit: 29 May 2014, 20:22:06 by serek »
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Re: "Nasty 4 pot diesel" problem (project car)
« Reply #41 on: 29 May 2014, 20:29:55 »

The repset pro also includes a 'free' slave cylinder for the extra cash... About £90 separately :y
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Re: "Nasty 4 pot diesel" problem (project car)
« Reply #42 on: 30 May 2014, 11:29:30 »

If you could please serek as I'm hoping to order the bits today :y
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Re: "Nasty 4 pot diesel" problem (project car)
« Reply #43 on: 31 May 2014, 12:09:31 »

Just been looking up summat in the Vauxhall 2003 Omega sales brochure, and stumbled on this...

The petrol 2.2 (and presumably the 2.0) has a clutch diameter of 229mm.

The diesel 2.2 and the 2.6 (and presumably the 3.2) have a clutch diameter of 241mm. :y

The Dti and 2.2 have the same gearbox ratios. The 2.6 ratios are different.

All have different diff ratios too. :y
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