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Locking wheel nuts
« on: 13 March 2017, 22:28:09 »

In the age of smart phones and tablets that you don't eat these things should be illegal.  >:(

Anybody have any suggestions on how to remove 27mm Land Rover size ones without spending a fortune?

The Irwin bolt extractors don't go up to that size it seems and I'm not paying £100 plus for the kit the RAC/AA use.

Note : No access to welding equipment

*P.S - on principal I'm not paying LR a penny for the genuine key.
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Re: Locking wheel nuts
« Reply #1 on: 13 March 2017, 22:40:18 »

ATS removed mine after Kwikfit fitter sheared pins from the original 3 pin style locking wheel nut key
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Re: Locking wheel nuts
« Reply #2 on: 13 March 2017, 22:43:21 »

If you don't have the necessary  kit to remove them, drive the car to your favourite mechanic(a technician won't put down his espressmochachinolatte(with extra pink sprinkles and his name caligraphied onto the artisinal paper-mache thermo container in Essex virgin's blood) and pay him to undo the sodding things. Replace them with ordinary nuts/bolts and forget about them forever.
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Re: Locking wheel nuts
« Reply #3 on: 13 March 2017, 22:44:03 »

Whilst I don't know what your beef is with Land Rover, are you not 'cutting your nose to spite your face' so to speak?
Is the risk of damaging your alloys, skinned knuckles and blood sweat and probably tears, worth the cost of a replacement locking wheel nut key?
I'd swallow my pride, and get a key from LR, or at least try a LR specialist - THEN bin them.
At least you would also get a set of original wheel nuts to replace the locking wheel nuts out of it.
And it's likely to be a cheaper alternative too.
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Re: Locking wheel nuts
« Reply #4 on: 13 March 2017, 23:12:06 »

ATS removed mine after Kwikfit fitter sheared pins from the original 3 pin style locking wheel nut key

Any ideas what they used?
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Re: Locking wheel nuts
« Reply #5 on: 13 March 2017, 23:15:51 »

Whilst I don't know what your beef is with Land Rover, are you not 'cutting your nose to spite your face' so to speak?
Is the risk of damaging your alloys, skinned knuckles and blood sweat and probably tears, worth the cost of a replacement locking wheel nut key?
I'd swallow my pride, and get a key from LR, or at least try a LR specialist - THEN bin them.
At least you would also get a set of original wheel nuts to replace the locking wheel nuts out of it.
And it's likely to be a cheaper alternative too.

I have no intention of risking damaging my 17 yr old alloys. Equally I have no intention of paying retail price at LR to get a key I shouldn't need to remove 5 wheel bolts to throw them and the key in the bin.  I'd rather spend my money on an appropriately sized set of bolt extractors that would be useful the next time some chump loses the key.

Replacement standard wheelbolts already ordered yesterday btw.  Obviously last resort is give in and take it to my local garage, but that's defeatest.  :P
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Re: Locking wheel nuts
« Reply #6 on: 13 March 2017, 23:17:58 »

ATS removed mine after Kwikfit fitter sheared pins from the original 3 pin style locking wheel nut key

Any ideas what they used?


Big socket and an even bigger hammer?


Welded a larger nut onto the damaged fastener?


Left handed threaded socket(although I've not seen one that big)?


Various drills and advanced Anglo-Saxon?


The combination of brute force and ignorance that is in plentiful supply at fast-fit tyre operations(and that's just the 'manager' who got the job because he's slightly less likely to beak customer's cars)?


As for the 'bolt extractors' being useful just once, let alone repeatedly, you're living in a fantasy world. PM me your address and I'll send you some to prove that
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Re: Locking wheel nuts
« Reply #7 on: 13 March 2017, 23:23:22 »

When kwik fit sheared my three pins on the omega, i drove car straight to Vx dealer and said please sort it. To their credit they did without damaging the rim. No charge as i said they arent fit for purpose and they were the last people to fit them.

Do people ( in the real world) actually ever have their wheels nicked anymore?
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Re: Locking wheel nuts
« Reply #8 on: 13 March 2017, 23:30:29 »

When I needed one removing from a car I was buying (vendor lost the adapter so they were paying) a fast fit tyre place used a cold chisel to break part of the stud (to make an irregular shape) and then hammered a socket on to it.

I doubt any solution is going to be technical or subtle. Think brutal but effective  :y
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Re: Locking wheel nuts
« Reply #9 on: 13 March 2017, 23:35:01 »

When kwik fit sheared my three pins on the omega, i drove car straight to Vx dealer and said please sort it. To their credit they did without damaging the rim. No charge as i said they arent fit for purpose and they were the last people to fit them.

Do people ( in the real world) actually ever have their wheels nicked anymore?

Simply put... No. Not since 1998.
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Re: Locking wheel nuts
« Reply #10 on: 14 March 2017, 00:25:56 »

Photos of the locking nut??

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Re: Locking wheel nuts
« Reply #11 on: 14 March 2017, 06:58:24 »

Top bodge.

If wheel nut is 27mm, go and buy a 26mm impact socket, get very short extension, hammer socket onto nut remove, knackerd extension, replace with good extension, undo with bar.
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Re: Locking wheel nuts
« Reply #12 on: 14 March 2017, 08:37:58 »

ATS removed mine after Kwikfit fitter sheared pins from the original 3 pin style locking wheel nut key

Any ideas what they used?

he had a set of various sizes of something like these 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Emergency-Locking-Wheel-Nut-Remover-Removal-Tool-19-26mm-/160650974451?hash=item25678b54f3:m:mUcQ3tkVT25_DD7lv5I8hSg
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Re: Locking wheel nuts
« Reply #13 on: 14 March 2017, 10:14:13 »

When kwik fit sheared my three pins on the omega, i drove car straight to Vx dealer and said please sort it. To their credit they did without damaging the rim. No charge as i said they arent fit for purpose and they were the last people to fit them.

Do people ( in the real world) actually ever have their wheels nicked anymore?

Simply put... No. Not since 1998.


In the 13 years I worked recovery, we had one job for stolen wheels. The car was an old Skoda Fabia!
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Re: Locking wheel nuts
« Reply #14 on: 14 March 2017, 11:36:13 »

Pop to local LR dealer or specialist. Ask technician nicely if he has the right key you can borrow for ten minutes. Reward with fourpack of beer.

Worked for me a few years back. .. :y
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