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Re: slap piston in swap x30xe?
« Reply #15 on: 13 December 2020, 20:52:22 »

Something inside the engine is breaking apart, probably the crank/bearings if it's knocking already.

Without stripping it completely you won't know which bit, at which point you either completely rebuild it or replace it.

There's no positive reasons to find metal in the oil.
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Re: slap piston in swap x30xe?
« Reply #17 on: 14 December 2020, 00:47:20 »

You might want to drop off the lower oil sump pan and take a look at the oil strainer pickup. If it get fully blocked....

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=122287.msg1558753#msg1558753

Symptoms are metal fragments in the oil, and bottom end/big end bearing dis-integration leading to a knocking sound.

I will check it  :y Does the noise make you only cold or always?

Depends how far gone it is, but likely to be worse on a warm engine than a cold one because the oil gets thinner as it warms up. Will also be worse at higher revs than at lower revs.

However, I agree with Doctor Gollum. Metal particles in the oil means something is breaking up, and whatever it is won't get better on it's own.  Dropping the sump will probably reveal all sorts of rubbish in the sump pan. As a minimum the engine needs stripping down to find out what is breaking up. If you can't or don't want to do that, then just get a new engine and put it in.

If it is the big end bearings disintegrating (which is my bet) then this engine won't last very long if you continue to drive it.
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Re: slap piston in swap x30xe?
« Reply #18 on: 14 December 2020, 13:59:17 »

Something inside the engine is breaking apart, probably the crank/bearings if it's knocking already.

Without stripping it completely you won't know which bit, at which point you either completely rebuild it or replace it.

There's no positive reasons to find metal in the oil.

Crank bearing is not, I know what it is and it would have broken very very long time ago. My problem is slap piston, but I wanted to know if the swap + lpg or lubrication failure could have caused it, that is why I would like to know the values ​​to measure the oil pump
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Re: slap piston in swap x30xe?
« Reply #19 on: 14 December 2020, 14:01:08 »

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Re: slap piston in swap x30xe?
« Reply #20 on: 14 December 2020, 14:04:12 »

The next best available is the 3.2 from a Vectra C but it's jusy shy of £600.
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Re: slap piston in swap x30xe?
« Reply #21 on: 14 December 2020, 15:03:11 »

The next best available is the 3.2 from a Vectra C but it's jusy shy of £600.

It would be interesting if it weren't for the shipping costs to Spain  :-\
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Re: slap piston in swap x30xe?
« Reply #22 on: 14 December 2020, 15:29:35 »

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-OMEGA-2-6-V6-PETROL-Y26SE-COMPLETE-ENGINE-WARRANTY-/114313934618

Thanks, but I have a 2.6 with 55k milles, only, for me, isn't engine for omega  ;D

If it came from a Vectra, then you can use this engine. You just need to swap pretty much everything. Sump, pickup pipe, brackets, sensors, plenums, injectors etc; You might want to retain the cam covers from the Vectra is they are metal.
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Re: slap piston in swap x30xe?
« Reply #23 on: 14 December 2020, 15:34:56 »

The next best available is the 3.2 from a Vectra C but it's jusy shy of £600.

It would be interesting if it weren't for the shipping costs to Spain  :-\
Nonsense. You can come and get it if it comes to it :-X

Use the channel tunnel andvyou won't even need to get out of the car :D

Although if you have a good low mileage 2.6 (from that car) you may as well stuff it back in, even if it is just a stop gap.

Keep that 3.0 in it, and you won't be using it much longer :-X
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Re: slap piston in swap x30xe?
« Reply #24 on: 14 December 2020, 15:39:20 »

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-OMEGA-2-6-V6-PETROL-Y26SE-COMPLETE-ENGINE-WARRANTY-/114313934618

Thanks, but I have a 2.6 with 55k milles, only, for me, isn't engine for omega  ;D

If it came from a Vectra, then you can use this engine. You just need to swap pretty much everything. Sump, pickup pipe, brackets, sensors, plenums, injectors etc; You might want to retain the cam covers from the Vectra is they are metal.
The Vectra lump was the only 3.2 lump on ebay, so would obviously need the Omega gubbins swapping over.  ;)

The 2.6 engine mentioned is the original one to the car aiui, and was removed in the quest for more go... Hence the knocking 3.0 issue.
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Re: slap piston in swap x30xe?
« Reply #25 on: 14 December 2020, 15:41:14 »

Actually, remove the cams from the 3.0 and, if they are good, ie not scored up or otherwise damaged, fit them to the 2.6. It will pep it up a bit.  :y
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Re: slap piston in swap x30xe?
« Reply #26 on: 14 December 2020, 15:43:34 »

The next best available is the 3.2 from a Vectra C but it's jusy shy of £600.

It would be interesting if it weren't for the shipping costs to Spain  :-\


You could buy a running 3.0l still in a car and drive it home for less....
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Re: slap piston in swap x30xe?
« Reply #27 on: 14 December 2020, 16:08:13 »

The next best available is the 3.2 from a Vectra C but it's jusy shy of £600.

It would be interesting if it weren't for the shipping costs to Spain  :-\


You could buy a running 3.0l still in a car and drive it home for less....
Yes  ::)
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Re: slap piston in swap x30xe?
« Reply #28 on: 14 December 2020, 16:08:49 »

Actually, remove the cams from the 3.0 and, if they are good, ie not scored up or otherwise damaged, fit them to the 2.6. It will pep it up a bit.  :y

Return to 2.6 don't contemplate. If I take out the engine it will be for something bigger.
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Re: slap piston in swap x30xe?
« Reply #29 on: 14 December 2020, 16:10:33 »

The next best available is the 3.2 from a Vectra C but it's jusy shy of £600.

It would be interesting if it weren't for the shipping costs to Spain  :-\


You could buy a running 3.0l still in a car and drive it home for less....

Sad but true
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