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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: GastronomicKleptomaniac on 04 March 2012, 08:32:47
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Many moons ago when I had my first V6, the Eternalcar exhaust was fairly cheap and well made - I can't ignore the blowing from mine any more, are there any other recommended manufacturers? I need back box and centre pipes.
I assume a system listed for 3.0 will also fit my 3.2, just cosmetically different at the back?
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Yes, the tail pipes are just slightly too short. Easily fixed with some Halfrauds chav mod!
I'm thinking of going to a custom stainless place and having some professionally put on when the time comes for an eternal
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I am also looking for a cats back system. I found Eternal car a PITA navigating their Website, but did look at Neucarparts for mine.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EXHAUST-VAUXHALL-OPEL-OMEGA-B-2-5-2-6-V6-ESTATE-301-/320635334911?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4aa75af0ff.
Like you I would like peoples thoughts.
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Sadly we seem to be down to either the Eternal type systems, or next level up, Jetex aluminised or stainless systems for off the shelf stuff.
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I know my little brother would be spitting feathers if he heard anyone recommending Jetex.
He had one put on his AX GT, and always moaned about how gutless it made it. Multiple Jetex agents checked it, said it was fine. After a year, he couldn't tolerate it any more, ripped it off, binned it, and put on a cheap nasty Timax, and the thing became a pocket rocket again.
I reckon Jetex, like Courtney Sports, have and undeserved good reputation due to heavy advertising in the car mags aimed at chavs.
After over 2yrs on Eternal on my daily ride, I would certainly try them again, even though they are a pain to deal with.
I've yet to here any stainless setup, on any cruising car, that I could live with. Admittedly, many purposely ask it to sound crap, but even those supposedly quite ones sound too droney for me in a motorway cruiser.
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I saw a Timax at all parts in slough, having agreed a price over the phone that made it reasonable but still more expensive than eternal, I went to have a look with a view to buying. Took one look and left it where it was. Wealds barely met, with rust already showing around the joins.
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I saw a Timax at all parts in slough, having agreed a price over the phone that made it reasonable but still more expensive than eternal, I went to have a look with a view to buying. Took one look and left it where it was. Wealds barely met, with rust already showing around the joins.
Yeah, they are the worse utter shite available. Yet still better than Jetex junk ;)
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Shame nothing needs doing on the MV6, else I'd invite you over to see what Eternal looks like after 2 years... ...and while you're under there ;D
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I saw a Timax at all parts in slough, having agreed a price over the phone that made it reasonable but still more expensive than eternal, I went to have a look with a view to buying. Took one look and left it where it was. Wealds barely met, with rust already showing around the joins.
Yeah, they are the worse utter shite available. Yet still better than Jetex junk ;)
Not according to members here... No experience myself obviously. I thought we where talking availability, not Chav value. ;D
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Anyway. The problem I have with Jetex is the bore size, at 63 mill that's no going to allow the irmscher silencer to fit with its 50.8 bore. They could reduce It down at the end, as they do custom fit as well to an extent, but that would send shock waves back up the exhaust and prevent gasses esaping, I'd expect aloss of power in those circumstances. Rightly or wrongly.
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I bought one of these for my MV6 - don't know the technicalities of exhausts but it fitted a treat and no problems running
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EXHAUST-VAUXHALL-OPEL-OMEGA-B-2-5-2-6-V6-SALOON-300-/320635334910?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4aa75af0fe (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EXHAUST-VAUXHALL-OPEL-OMEGA-B-2-5-2-6-V6-SALOON-300-/320635334910?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4aa75af0fe)
HTHs
Col
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Put a 2.5 system on a 3.0/3.2?
Back box as I understand is identical, just twin exits on the 3's - Although some people did notice a performance increase going back to a twin exit box after a single exit
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Put a 2.5 system on a 3.0/3.2?
Back box as I understand is identical, just twin exits on the 3's - Although some people did notice a performance increase going back to a twin exit box after a single exit
Can't see it being any more than placebo...
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Put a 2.5 system on a 3.0/3.2?
Back box as I understand is identical, just twin exits on the 3's - Although some people did notice a performance increase going back to a twin exit box after a single exit
Can't see it being any more than placebo...
Recalling Brucie's experience on his 3.2, although I think he said the previous box was shagged ::)
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2.5,3.0,2.6,3.2 mid sections are all the same. 3.0, 3.2 get twin exit box for purely Chav reasons.
H21 back box issue was with hoarse hair type wadding escaping on the new Gm system. Another reason not to go GM. Although I don't need the back box. Gm mid sections alone are over 200 sobs.
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Ta all! Have put a shout up for a decent used one to tide me over before I bite the bullet and get a new one - I'm considering a nice standard-sounding system from our local-ish specialists, come the summer...
I bought one of these for my MV6 - don't know the technicalities of exhausts but it fitted a treat and no problems running
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EXHAUST-VAUXHALL-OPEL-OMEGA-B-2-5-2-6-V6-SALOON-300-/320635334910?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4aa75af0fe (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EXHAUST-VAUXHALL-OPEL-OMEGA-B-2-5-2-6-V6-SALOON-300-/320635334910?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4aa75af0fe)
HTHs
Col
How does it sound? Louder than standard?
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I know my little brother would be spitting feathers if he heard anyone recommending Jetex.
He had one put on his AX GT, and always moaned about how gutless it made it. Multiple Jetex agents checked it, said it was fine. After a year, he couldn't tolerate it any more, ripped it off, binned it, and put on a cheap nasty Timax, and the thing became a pocket rocket again.
I went down the stainless route about four years ago purely for longevity. After fitting it there was no loss of performance but certainly no gain either, (not that any was expected). I would have preferred a GM replacement like the original system but heard the latest spec one's slated on here so didn't bother. On my previous omega I had a twin exit Walker back box fitted for over three years and was very pleased with the sound but have heard the current crop of them slated on here as well so I wouldn't know what to suggest now. You will never truly eliminate the sound of a big bore stainless pipe but the Jetex got the closest to it. I'm not a fan of boomy exhaust systems but can easily live with the Jetex system. Personal choice and finances dictate I suppose.
I will be the first to admit though that the original exhaust system was spot on for sound. Quiet when cruising and gained a growl when you gave it large. :y
Regards
Alan
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Ihave Eternalcar on both mine,oldest is 3.5 yrs old and still rust free and sounds nearly as good as the original GM.
wEBSITE IS POOR,BUT ORDER ON TELEPHONE V GOOD.
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Ihave Eternalcar on both mine,oldest is 3.5 yrs old and still rust free and sounds nearly as good as the original GM.
wEBSITE IS POOR,BUT ORDER ON TELEPHONE V GOOD.
Problem with the phones all week for me. :(
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Think the site gets better ( http://store.eternalcar.com/index.php?text=Omega&button.x=42&button.y=6&skey=products&site=list&category_id=0 )
It is not always easy to fing anything though.. still I have dropped them an email some time ago to aks about parts they did not have and it was not a problem to order the parts anyway
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they are a bit crap with the website, but it will only show you what they have. I often found ringing them best option (when their phones actually work)
Its worth it, as their zorsts are well made and cheap!
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Ordering is a right pita IMO. But it is worth persevering.
I wish they'd sort thier site out, it's a bit embarrassing recommending them given the ordering process and crap eBay shop. Parts are good though. ;)
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Just fitted an eternal system myself and i agree they are very good. Better tha. The current vx components
Like someone else here the vx back box disintegrated internally and dumped a wig out the back
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Ordering is a right pita IMO. But it is worth persevering.
I wish they'd sort thier site out, it's a bit embarrassing recommending them given the ordering process and crap eBay shop. Parts are good though. ;)
TBH, if you don't mind using ebay - some do, some don't - and the parts are listed, they are fairly slick IMHO. Its if you want to call them (they are only available for calls early morning) is when it gets embarrassing, as they can't tell you any more than their ebay shop stock levels can.
We are, on OOF, specialists on Omegas, we should be able to work out the correct parts ourselves, so that shouldn't be a problem.
The biggest frustration is if they don't list a specific part, thats usually just because its out of stock, and they seem incapable of estimating when it will be back in.
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I think mine needs replacing as well. any suggestions re: places/people to get it replaced at in SE London? Looks like Eternalcar have all the bits I need in stock.
Sorry about the hijack.
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never had a problem with eternal car, they are all over french ebay, good for us..
bought the best part of a system for my old voyager and another for my old omega 2.5tdi. good price good fit.. only complaint was alot of spatter on the lugs. good pattern exhausts.
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I did have a problem with one last year for my TD Estate, the mounting lugs were offset sufficiently to make fitting it a PITA, and as the lugs are fairly tough steel, it was virtually impossible to bend them. Fair play to Eternal though, they refunded the cost... eventually. :y
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Just fitted two eternal centre sections to my elite. Sounds lovely and quiet
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I had an eternal car system on my old 3 litre Elite, good service from them, quick delivery, good fit and very reasonable price, couldn't fault them. Still got it in the shed since I scrapped the car, shame it doesn't fit my estate...
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I know it's about exhaust parts but have you ever tried Eternalcar s boot liners ? i didn't want to start a new topic but though you might know something about them as well. The exhaust parts are good so maybe one of you have tried the mats as well ? I would need the one here : http://store.eternalcar.com/boot_mat_liner_anti_slip_vauxhall_omega_b_19942003,k,16,p,11637.html
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2.5,3.0,2.6,3.2 mid sections are all the same. 3.0, 3.2 get twin exit box for purely Chav reasons.
H21 back box issue was with hoarse hair type wadding escaping on the new Gm system. Another reason not to go GM. Although I don't need the back box. Gm mid sections alone are over 200 sobs.
What a wonderful typo! ;D ;D ;D
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I fitted an Eternal system a couple of weeks back. Very pleased with quality, and delivery was ok (within a week) but communication woeful. I never managed to get a response from their phone system (unless you count the ansafone telling me that it was possibly out of business hours!)
I orderred from their website in the end. The price is very good even allowing for international shipping.
I opted for a 3.0 back box with the twin tailpipes and I think it sounds better than my last GM system (which was of resonable quality and lasted about 6 years). Not sure if the nicer tone is down to quality or twin pipes? Either way very pleased with it.
One thing that I would suggest is a liberal helping of plus gas on the flange bolts for a day or two before changing. I did use plus gas but I still managed to shear three out of the four bolts - took me hours to drill the little 'stards out!
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get some better drill bits :o i drilled out the down pipe to mid section .. took me about 5 minutes.