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Title: juddering under braking and veering to the left.
Post by: PAULCDX on 08 March 2012, 21:17:54
Hi,

sorry if this has been posted before but I hope somebody can advise me on if I have two seperate faults or if they are related?

Whilst driving, the car will wonder off to the left if I let the steering wheel go. I've checked the tyre pressures and they are all fine at 32 all round.

Secondly, when braking I can feel a slight judder / pulsation from the brake pedal and also a slight steering wobble, this can happen from 20mph upwards?

Any ideas? Thanks in advance for your help. :y

Paul
Title: Re: juddering under braking and veering to the left.
Post by: TheBoy on 08 March 2012, 21:20:17
Probably seperate issues.
Title: Re: juddering under braking and veering to the left.
Post by: Lazydocker on 08 March 2012, 21:22:01
Wishbone bushes possibly for the pull, although could just be geometry ;)

Braking judder is likely to be discs past their best but could be wheel balance issue
Title: Re: juddering under braking and veering to the left.
Post by: TheBoy on 08 March 2012, 21:23:30
Guess both could be caused by a really shagged wishbone bush
Title: Re: juddering under braking and veering to the left.
Post by: PAULCDX on 08 March 2012, 21:34:14
Cheers guys,

So I guess first port of call is to the car inspected and the wheel alignment checked over etc.

Chemix and national tyres are doing offers on there inspections so would it be ok to take the car there for a check over? Anybody had any dealings with these people before?

Thanks  :y
Title: Re: juddering under braking and veering to the left.
Post by: feeutfo on 08 March 2012, 21:34:35
Juddering on brakes alone is a brake issue. Typically, check the inboard outer edge of the discs for a rust band eating in to the centre.

Pull to the left, "if", and it's a big if, all is sound with no faults is a set up issue. But previously worn tyres can also play a part.
As usual, check steering and suspension for faults, rectify, set up for full geo, fit new tyres if needed. :)
Title: Re: juddering under braking and veering to the left.
Post by: feeutfo on 08 March 2012, 21:36:50
Failed wishbone bushes cause a random wobble on the steering wheel. Under braking accelerating coasting... Anything can set the wobble off at any time.
Title: Re: juddering under braking and veering to the left.
Post by: feeutfo on 08 March 2012, 21:45:12
Cheers guys,

So I guess first port of call is to the car inspected and the wheel alignment checked over etc.

Chemix and national tyres are doing offers on there inspections so would it be ok to take the car there for a check over? Anybody had any dealings with these people before?

Thanks  :y
No!
Title: Re: juddering under braking and veering to the left.
Post by: Lazydocker on 08 March 2012, 21:46:41
Cheers guys,

So I guess first port of call is to the car inspected and the wheel alignment checked over etc.

Chemix and national tyres are doing offers on there inspections so would it be ok to take the car there for a check over? Anybody had any dealings with these people before?

Thanks  :y
No!
Has "the groomer" logged into your account Chris? :-X ::)
Title: Re: juddering under braking and veering to the left.
Post by: TheBoy on 08 March 2012, 21:47:05
Agree with that Gixer bloke, these big chain workshops don't know their arse from their elbows.
Title: Re: juddering under braking and veering to the left.
Post by: Lazydocker on 08 March 2012, 21:48:37
Agree with that Gixer bloke, these big chain workshops don't know their arse from their elbows.
Have those tablets gone to your head?  ::) ;D
Title: Re: juddering under braking and veering to the left.
Post by: Andy B on 08 March 2012, 21:48:59
Cheers guys,

So I guess first port of call is to the car inspected and the wheel alignment checked over etc.

Chemix and national tyres are doing offers on there inspections so would it be ok to take the car there for a check over? Anybody had any dealings with these people before?

Thanks  :y
No!
Has "the groomer" logged into your account Chris? :-X ::)

Must have, at least this bloke seems to able to sell betterer than what Chris does ..........  ::) ::)
Title: Re: juddering under braking and veering to the left.
Post by: feeutfo on 08 March 2012, 21:52:25
Smelling never my strong point ;D
Title: Re: juddering under braking and veering to the left.
Post by: Andy B on 08 March 2012, 21:55:27
Smelling never my strong point ;D

Isn't it?  ::) ::)

Never really noticed ..................  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: juddering under braking and veering to the left.
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 09 March 2012, 01:02:32
paul, when you pop down for the cambelt fitting I will have a good poke underneith for you :y

I am no suspension expert but will happily check for bush play and check condition of parts etc :y
Title: Re: juddering under braking and veering to the left.
Post by: feeutfo on 09 March 2012, 05:16:06
Smelling never my strong point ;D

Isn't it?  ::) ::)

Never really noticed ..................  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Aaah don't you just live a bit pedanter ... ;D
Title: Re: juddering under braking and veering to the left.
Post by: RobseyMV6 on 09 March 2012, 06:39:27
Also have this problem,, brake and turn left feels like abs is cutting in under brake pedal and feel the pedal working like abs is cutting in, also only now this has happened the mph clock is very jumpy not like before? would this be abs sensor and what sensor dose the clock use for speed?
Title: Re: juddering under braking and veering to the left.
Post by: Jay42 on 09 March 2012, 07:43:46
I had that once on a ford siera it turned out to be a warped brake disc.
Title: Re: juddering under braking and veering to the left.
Post by: ScaniaV8 on 09 March 2012, 11:14:03
May be of interest and worth considering....I had the same problems a few months back and the root cause of the problem was a knackered steering Idler. Too much play and when braking from high to low speed was very noticeable pull left and judder.  Discs and Brake pads were all relatively new and nicely bedded in so these were not source of problem.
Replaced with genuine VX steering Idler and bingo......perfect steering and braking!... with Harry Potter no where in sight !!

Check out the condition of your steering Idler and vertical play etc etc.