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Title: Sorting this one out ?
Post by: omega3000 on 21 March 2012, 18:31:17
MOT pass today so good news , however the car overheated on the way back again but its not your normal overheating . The car will hit the red zone then bounce back to 97-98 when driving wtf  :-\ then when stopping at a junction the temp will rise again into the red and so on ... planning on flushing the rad again but will this cure it or is it something else  :-\

tia

Oh yes the mot bloke said its running far too hot with the fans cutting in as much as they do , slight coolant leak down the back of engine some place he said , he also said it could be your head gasket  :o :o

HBV is new and no leaks .
Title: Re: Sorting this one out ?
Post by: symes on 21 March 2012, 20:01:00
could be the cross over pipe fitting under inlets
Title: Re: Sorting this one out ?
Post by: omega3000 on 21 March 2012, 20:11:59
could be the cross over pipe fitting under inlets

First ive heard of that symes , difficult to get to ?
Title: Re: Sorting this one out ?
Post by: symes on 21 March 2012, 20:20:41
its the metal bridge coolant goes thru from one head to the other.My saloon kept weeing all over the rear of engine-stank mate-hot antifreeze-removed plenum and injector block-soon saw leak mate-replaced O rings and job done.
Title: Re: Sorting this one out ?
Post by: RobG on 21 March 2012, 20:23:18
could be the cross over pipe fitting under inlets

First ive heard of that symes , difficult to get to ?
Coolant bridge, orange oval in pic
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z257/belisensis/OmegaV6a.jpg)
Title: Re: Sorting this one out ?
Post by: symes on 21 March 2012, 20:27:25
change ya thermostat at same time ya might as well while your able too.
Title: Re: Sorting this one out ?
Post by: omega3000 on 21 March 2012, 20:29:20
Thanks rob , looks like dirty hands again this weekend  ::) ;)

change ya thermostat at same time ya might as well while your able too.
will do  ;)

Title: Re: Sorting this one out ?
Post by: omega3000 on 21 March 2012, 21:24:34
Will order parts from vx .

Anyone with the part numbers i will need for .

Coolant bridge seals & thermostat  ;)
Title: Re: Sorting this one out ?
Post by: martin42 on 21 March 2012, 21:31:42
If you want i can pick up thermostat from unipart at mk,includes gasket,ive got 2 o rings here for transfer pipe,
Title: Re: Sorting this one out ?
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 21 March 2012, 21:35:14
check around the alternator area and engine front.. if you see some coolant traces....... :(
Title: Re: Sorting this one out ?
Post by: omega3000 on 21 March 2012, 21:37:26
If you want i can pick up thermostat from unipart at mk,includes gasket,ive got 2 o rings here for transfer pipe,

That would be great martin thanks , i guess im about to get my hands on the *astad bolt sooner than i expected ...will be doing the job this sunday all being well  ;)

check around the alternator area and engine front.. if you see some coolant traces....... :(
:(

Why's that cem ? Where does the coolant come from if its coming from there ....last time i checked it was dry there .
Title: Re: Sorting this one out ?
Post by: martin42 on 21 March 2012, 21:40:28
Im free sunday,so can give you a hand,b bolt easier for me as left handed lol and younger  :y
Title: Re: Sorting this one out ?
Post by: omega3000 on 21 March 2012, 21:44:42
Im free sunday,so can give you a hand,b bolt easier for me as left handed lol and younger  :y

Yes and probably more patience  :-X How long do you recon it will take , i can take the plenum off but never took the inlets off but will try and get most bits off before you turn up .
Title: Re: Sorting this one out ?
Post by: noel on 22 March 2012, 08:38:12
If you want i can pick up thermostat from unipart at mk,includes gasket,ive got 2 o rings here for transfer pipe,

That would be great martin thanks , i guess im about to get my hands on the *astad bolt sooner than i expected ...will be doing the job this sunday all being well  ;)

check around the alternator area and engine front.. if you see some coolant traces....... :(
:(

Why's that cem ? Where does the coolant come from if its coming from there ....last time i checked it was dry there .
good luck with that one  ;)
Title: Re: Sorting this one out ?
Post by: omega3000 on 22 March 2012, 09:07:33
Martin has took the *astad bolt out before so think ill leave it to him seeing as he's left handed  ;D

Reading up on here i see its a lot easier if you take the power steering pipe off but ill have a look to see how much of a *astad it is when its all stripped down . Will be interesting to see the condition of the thermostat  :(

Do i need to drain the coolant ?  ? If so i think ill use the cleaning stuff for the rad while its in bits .
Title: Re: Sorting this one out ?
Post by: noel on 22 March 2012, 09:12:45
Martin has took the *astad bolt out before so think ill leave it to him seeing as he's left handed  ;D

Reading up on here i see its a lot easier if you take the power steering pipe off but ill have a look to see how much of a *astad it is when its all stripped down . Will be interesting to see the condition of the thermostat  :(

Do i need to drain the coolant ?  ? If so i think ill use the cleaning stuff for the rad while its in bits .
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90647.0  read first took me 6 hours on my own but have never done one before :y
Title: Re: Sorting this one out ?
Post by: omega3000 on 22 March 2012, 09:25:22
Can anyone help me out here please.

I need the part number for the coolant bridge seals if there is such a thing or is it just black sealant ?
Title: Re: Sorting this one out ?
Post by: aaronjb on 22 March 2012, 09:49:34
The coolant bridge down the back is two hollow (banjo) bolts with dowty washers (two on each bolt), part numbers from my last invoice are:

V0012992647     129748/SEAL RING           4      £1.99ea
V0012992646     129743/HOLLOW SCREW    2     £6.30ea

(I was advised to get two new bolts just in case the old ones disintegrate on removal..)
Title: Re: Sorting this one out ?
Post by: amba on 22 March 2012, 09:52:14
Coolant bridge seals...or a some call them " doughty washers "as they are a metal washer with a rubber insert.

VX Part # 12992647 and you will require 4 .They go on each side of the hollow bolt that goes through the coolant bridge and must be replaced as the old ones are a " once only fit ".

Be carefull undoing and torquing up the hollow bolts as they are quite fragile.
Title: Re: Sorting this one out ?
Post by: omega3000 on 22 March 2012, 09:58:49
Ok thank you very much for the part numbers and info  ;)
Off the the stealers now  :y
Title: Re: Sorting this one out ?
Post by: tigers_gonads on 22 March 2012, 10:40:53
Before you rip the thing apart again, just make sure that you have not got some air in the system.
This would give exactly the same symptoms  ;)

The v6's are a bitch to get all the air out sometimes.
After you have had some work done on the coolant system, it can take ages to get it all out believe me.

Daz sorted my cam belt out yesterday and I had the same problem coming home.
Sat in town traffic / steady plodding around, I had no problem.
A nice 70 mph + 10% ISH and it shot up a couple of times.

My advise would be to carry plenty of water with you.  Loosen the top of the bottle a little and just go for a steady drive with the heaters on hot and let any air work its way out on its own  :y

Note:-  just being out for a good blast in mine with no overheating problems  ;)
Title: Re: Sorting this one out ?
Post by: omega3000 on 22 March 2012, 12:14:48
Before you rip the thing apart again, just make sure that you have not got some air in the system.
This would give exactly the same symptoms  ;)

The v6's are a bitch to get all the air out sometimes.
After you have had some work done on the coolant system, it can take ages to get it all out believe me.

Daz sorted my cam belt out yesterday and I had the same problem coming home.
Sat in town traffic / steady plodding around, I had no problem.
A nice 70 mph + 10% ISH and it shot up a couple of times.

My advise would be to carry plenty of water with you.  Loosen the top of the bottle a little and just go for a steady drive with the heaters on hot and let any air work its way out on its own  :y

Note:-  just being out for a good blast in mine with no overheating problems  ;)

I know what your saying TG , but the temp gauge is all over the place . From cold it will rise as normal but soon as the car is driven for more than 8 miles it will hit the red zone then back down as soon as i stop at a junction ....it like another bloody rev counter  :D :D :D ::)

Ps .    Swmbo getting fed up with her feet getting burnt with heater on full  :-X
Title: Re: Sorting this one out ?
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 22 March 2012, 14:10:38
If you want i can pick up thermostat from unipart at mk,includes gasket,ive got 2 o rings here for transfer pipe,

That would be great martin thanks , i guess im about to get my hands on the *astad bolt sooner than i expected ...will be doing the job this sunday all being well  ;)

check around the alternator area and engine front.. if you see some coolant traces....... :(
:(

Why's that cem ? Where does the coolant come from if its coming from there ....last time i checked it was dry there .

headgaskets on mine started the leak from there..  the mechanics claim its not headgasket no need to strip down and I insisted.. I win ;D   ( or I loose :-\ ) anyway for some time no need to worry for headgaskets (with a price tag! of course)
Title: Re: Sorting this one out ?
Post by: omega3000 on 22 March 2012, 14:16:36
If you want i can pick up thermostat from unipart at mk,includes gasket,ive got 2 o rings here for transfer pipe,

That would be great martin thanks , i guess im about to get my hands on the *astad bolt sooner than i expected ...will be doing the job this sunday all being well  ;)

check around the alternator area and engine front.. if you see some coolant traces....... :(
:(

Why's that cem ? Where does the coolant come from if its coming from there ....last time i checked it was dry there .

headgaskets on mine started the leak from there..  the mechanics claim its not headgasket no need to strip down and I insisted.. I win ;D   ( or I loose :-\ ) anyway for some time no need to worry for headgaskets (with a price tag! of course)

Thats not good although its the first ive heard of the diagnosis from this point , its dry at the front so thats good unless its ran out of water  :-X    ::)    ;D

Title: Re: Sorting this one out ?
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 22 March 2012, 14:50:48
good luck rather you than me  :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: Sorting this one out ?
Post by: omega3000 on 22 March 2012, 14:53:56
good luck rather you than me  :y :y :y :y

Its all your fault ralf  :( just cos you got a 4 pot  >:(  :P :P  Im going diesel next time  :P
Title: Re: Sorting this one out ?
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 22 March 2012, 14:55:08
good luck rather you than me  :y :y :y :y

Its all your fault ralf  :( just cos you got a 4 pot  >:(  :P :P  Im going diesel next time  :P
why is it my fault  ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Sorting this one out ?
Post by: omega3000 on 22 March 2012, 14:56:09
good luck rather you than me  :y :y :y :y

Its all your fault ralf  :( just cos you got a 4 pot  >:(  :P :P  Im going diesel next time  :P
why is it my fault  ??? ??? ???

Its a v6 the ones that you like  ;D :-X 
Title: Re: Sorting this one out ?
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 22 March 2012, 14:58:25
good luck rather you than me  :y :y :y :y

Its all your fault ralf  :( just cos you got a 4 pot  >:(  :P :P  Im going diesel next time  :P
why is it my fault  ??? ??? ???

Its a v6 the ones that you like  ;D :-X
dont like you mean ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Sorting this one out ?
Post by: omega3000 on 22 March 2012, 15:01:50
good luck rather you than me  :y :y :y :y

Its all your fault ralf  :( just cos you got a 4 pot  >:(  :P :P  Im going diesel next time  :P
why is it my fault  ??? ??? ???

Its a v6 the ones that you like  ;D :-X
dont like you mean ;D ;D ;D ;D

Not heard much from webby whos working on ralf2  one thing with the omega it tests your abilities ...im thinking of working for vx when im done sorting this  ;D
Title: Re: Sorting this one out ?
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 22 March 2012, 16:14:50
good luck rather you than me  :y :y :y :y

Its all your fault ralf  :( just cos you got a 4 pot  >:(  :P :P  Im going diesel next time  :P
why is it my fault  ??? ??? ???

Its a v6 the ones that you like  ;D :-X
dont like you mean ;D ;D ;D ;D

Not heard much from webby whos working on ralf2  one thing with the omega it tests your abilities ...im thinking of working for vx when im done sorting this  ;D
maybe webby is finding how much money it takes like i did :y :y :y
Title: Re: Sorting this one out ?
Post by: martin42 on 22 March 2012, 16:56:52
got thermostat for you  :y
Title: Re: Sorting this one out ?
Post by: omega3000 on 22 March 2012, 17:25:00
good luck rather you than me  :y :y :y :y

Its all your fault ralf  :( just cos you got a 4 pot  >:(  :P :P  Im going diesel next time  :P
why is it my fault  ??? ??? ???

Its a v6 the ones that you like  ;D :-X
dont like you mean ;D ;D ;D ;D

Not heard much from webby whos working on ralf2  one thing with the omega it tests your abilities ...im thinking of working for vx when im done sorting this  ;D
maybe webby is finding how much money it takes like i did :y :y :y
Enter the bear  :-\


got thermostat for you  :y

Thanks martin , i will get the swear box ready  :y
Title: Re: Sorting this one out ?
Post by: martin42 on 22 March 2012, 17:29:00
i didnt swear when i did mine,i must be calming down lol  :D
Title: Re: Sorting this one out ?
Post by: omega3000 on 22 March 2012, 17:35:29
i didnt swear when i did mine,i must be calming down lol  :D
Im sure ive re built this car since ive had it  ::), only thing left to do is poly bush everything/fit a manual box & overhaull the diff  :D

Title: Re: Sorting this one out ?
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 22 March 2012, 18:34:43
if you are bored you can start on mine ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Sorting this one out ?
Post by: martin42 on 22 March 2012, 18:36:58
Noooooo !!!!!!!!!!!
lol
Title: Re: Sorting this one out ?
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 22 March 2012, 18:40:10
why not i will make the coffee  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Sorting this one out ?
Post by: omega3000 on 22 March 2012, 18:41:21
if you are bored you can start on mine ;D ;D ;D ;D

4 pots are easy as you know now , when this car has be re built it will owe me a few grand so wont be worth selling . Think ill put it in a museum  ;D I bought another box of plasters for this weekend  ::)

Yes when im done just line em up and ill fix em all  :-X
Title: Re: Sorting this one out ?
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 22 March 2012, 18:44:58
if you are bored you can start on mine ;D ;D ;D ;D

4 pots are easy as you know now , when this car has be re built it will owe me a few grand so wont be worth selling . Think ill put it in a museum  ;D I bought another box of plasters for this weekend  ::)

Yes when im done just line em up and ill fix em all  :-X
thats why i got rid of my v6 putting to much money into it :y :y :y :y