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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: Mr Hagon on 30 March 2012, 00:37:05

Title: Clock symbol on CID missing.
Post by: Mr Hagon on 30 March 2012, 00:37:05
Since the clocks changed last weekend I have been living on GMT as the clock has not changed  :(.  I've not seen the clock symbol on the display for a while and the usual trick of tuning to Radio 1 for a bit hasn't worked.  I have a NCDC 2015 + CID.

I think I have the setting enabled for automatic time updating.

Picture of the CID below.

(http://www.mhagon.demon.co.uk/omega/clock/clock.jpg)

Radio works fine, haven't used the sat nav for a while.  Is it possible the rubber round the aerial base has perished to the point where water has got in and something has corroded?

(http://www.mhagon.demon.co.uk/omega/clock/aerial2.jpg)

Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Clock symbol on CID missing.
Post by: doz on 30 March 2012, 07:16:32
Mine wouldn't do the switch to Summer Time. If I manually set it as soon as it picked up a radio station it switched back. I found you alter the time in half hour increments in the settings menu to account for DST
Title: Re: Clock symbol on CID missing.
Post by: feeutfo on 30 March 2012, 08:25:58
Isn't the clock symbol to do with ruote guidance in the nav? Ie set motorway only and the click changes to a motorway bridge. Or have I got the wrong end of the stick?
Title: Re: Clock symbol on CID missing.
Post by: TheBoy on 30 March 2012, 10:48:23
Isn't the clock symbol to do with ruote guidance in the nav? Ie set motorway only and the click changes to a motorway bridge. Or have I got the wrong end of the stick?
He's got a 2015, not a 2013 ;)

Can't remember where, either:
Tuner > Settings
or
BC > System Settings

there is a setting for auto adjusting clock.

Title: Re: Clock symbol on CID missing.
Post by: hotel21 on 30 March 2012, 19:20:16
I listen to some cool relaxing classic FM for a bit and it resolves itself. Never had to manually change it but never delved into the settings to far either.... 
Title: Re: Clock symbol on CID missing.
Post by: Mr Hagon on 31 March 2012, 11:35:22
Isn't the clock symbol to do with ruote guidance in the nav? Ie set motorway only and the click changes to a motorway bridge. Or have I got the wrong end of the stick?
He's got a 2015, not a 2013 ;)

Can't remember where, either:
Tuner > Settings
or
BC > System Settings

there is a setting for auto adjusting clock.
Have checked and it was already set.

It's under BC > Settings > System Settings > Time/Date > Autom. Time Correction.

For now I've manually changed the time and listening to Classic didn't help, but it's not the end of the world.
Title: Re: Clock symbol on CID missing.
Post by: feeutfo on 31 March 2012, 23:34:55
Isn't the clock symbol to do with ruote guidance in the nav? Ie set motorway only and the click changes to a motorway bridge. Or have I got the wrong end of the stick?
Looked at the symbol today... It's break all to do with that, is it! ;D

Not helping am I Dad. :)
Title: Re: Clock symbol on CID missing.
Post by: TheBoy on 01 April 2012, 19:52:40
Isn't the clock symbol to do with ruote guidance in the nav? Ie set motorway only and the click changes to a motorway bridge. Or have I got the wrong end of the stick?
He's got a 2015, not a 2013 ;)

Can't remember where, either:
Tuner > Settings
or
BC > System Settings

there is a setting for auto adjusting clock.
Have checked and it was already set.

It's under BC > Settings > System Settings > Time/Date > Autom. Time Correction.

For now I've manually changed the time and listening to Classic didn't help, but it's not the end of the world.
Try unset and then reset.

Do you get a good GPS signal?
Title: Re: Clock symbol on CID missing.
Post by: Mr Hagon on 01 April 2012, 21:35:22
Isn't the clock symbol to do with ruote guidance in the nav? Ie set motorway only and the click changes to a motorway bridge. Or have I got the wrong end of the stick?
He's got a 2015, not a 2013 ;)

Can't remember where, either:
Tuner > Settings
or
BC > System Settings

there is a setting for auto adjusting clock.
Have checked and it was already set.

It's under BC > Settings > System Settings > Time/Date > Autom. Time Correction.

For now I've manually changed the time and listening to Classic didn't help, but it's not the end of the world.
Try unset and then reset.

Do you get a good GPS signal?
Will try the unset and reset and run with it unset for a bit before I set it again.  As for GPS signal, sat nav has always behaved, but having checked the manual it doesn't show a picture of the CID so I'm not sure whether the picture of the satellite in the centre bottom of the CID is an indication of the signal strength.
Title: Re: Clock symbol on CID missing.
Post by: TheBoy on 01 April 2012, 21:44:19
but having checked the manual it doesn't show a picture of the CID so I'm not sure whether the picture of the satellite in the centre bottom of the CID is an indication of the signal strength.
yeah, 2015 doesn't display it. Possible to find it in diags mode, but if it works, thats good enough.

Is RDS on?
Title: Re: Clock symbol on CID missing.
Post by: Mr Hagon on 01 April 2012, 21:52:17
but having checked the manual it doesn't show a picture of the CID so I'm not sure whether the picture of the satellite in the centre bottom of the CID is an indication of the signal strength.
yeah, 2015 doesn't display it. Possible to find it in diags mode, but if it works, thats good enough.

Is RDS on?
Ah yes, I think the 2013 does show it at the top right, I remember now, whereas the 2015 + Telematics shows the GSM network and strength.

RDS is on.
Title: Re: Clock symbol on CID missing.
Post by: Mr Hagon on 03 April 2012, 00:02:06
Out of curiosity I checked the sat nav on the way home tonight, and guess what, it thinks I'm driving around Southampton, when I'm not.

A search on here shows that it's time to check the nav diagnostic mode, reset it, check the connection behind the HU and the aerial base... :P
Title: Re: Clock symbol on CID missing.
Post by: Mr Hagon on 04 April 2012, 08:33:25
Well a reset didn't do anything, but entering the diagnostic mode showed the 00/00 for satellites so time to take the car apart and find out if it's the aerial/cable/connection to the cage/hu...
Title: Re: Clock symbol on CID missing.
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 04 April 2012, 09:09:33
Remember that if the unit is using the RDS system that not all station transmit time info, try a listen to Radio 1 for a few minutes.
Title: Re: Clock symbol on CID missing.
Post by: Andy B on 04 April 2012, 09:44:59
.......... try a listen to Radio 1 for a few minutes.

Is DLT still a DJ on Radio 1?  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Clock symbol on CID missing.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 04 April 2012, 17:19:52
.......... try a listen to Radio 1 for a few minutes.

Is DLT still a DJ on Radio 1?  ::) ::) ::)

I think I'd prefer the clock to be wrong, TBH. ;)
Title: Re: Clock symbol on CID missing.
Post by: Mr Hagon on 04 April 2012, 23:19:06
Remember that if the unit is using the RDS system that not all station transmit time info, try a listen to Radio 1 for a few minutes.
I'm with KW on this.  I could only stomach it for about 20 mins, and no clock appeared.

Is it RDS or GPS that provides the time sync.  Given that the sat nav diagnostics shows 00/00 for the the number of satellites, this could explain it.  Looks like the aerial is goosed.
Title: Re: Clock symbol on CID missing.
Post by: Entwood on 04 April 2012, 23:24:47
For RDS time sync ...

http://www.dxradio.co.uk/ukrdsbbc.php

or

http://www.dxradio.co.uk/ukrdscom.php

If you can't get an RDS from those lists ... your system is buggered broke !!

:)
Title: Re: Clock symbol on CID missing.
Post by: doz on 04 April 2012, 23:26:22
Think your find it can receive time from either but only when RDS is turned on and obviously from Sat Nav which you say isn't working
Title: Re: Clock symbol on CID missing.
Post by: TheBoy on 05 April 2012, 16:06:39
Remember that if the unit is using the RDS system that not all station transmit time info, try a listen to Radio 1 for a few minutes.
I'm with KW on this.  I could only stomach it for about 20 mins, and no clock appeared.

Is it RDS or GPS that provides the time sync.  Given that the sat nav diagnostics shows 00/00 for the the number of satellites, this could explain it.  Looks like the aerial is goosed.
Many say RDS, but I reckon satnav on these units, hence why I asked about gps ;)
Title: Re: Clock symbol on CID missing.
Post by: Mr Hagon on 25 April 2012, 23:19:20
Well a reset didn't do anything, but entering the diagnostic mode showed the 00/00 for satellites so time to take the car apart and find out if it's the aerial/cable/connection to the cage/hu...
Well it's not the connections that are the issue, so I'll post a Wanted ad to see if anyone has an aerial going spare.

As an aside the clock symbol made a comeback this morning, but disappeared again on the way home.  Clearly all this rain has the sat nav confused as this is where it thinks I am:

(http://www.mhagon.demon.co.uk/omega/clock/blue.jpg)
Title: Re: Clock symbol on CID missing.
Post by: feeutfo on 26 April 2012, 00:23:50
Worth a reset...? Press and hold clear and main for more than 6 seconds? :-\
Title: Re: Clock symbol on CID missing.
Post by: Mr Hagon on 26 April 2012, 00:35:58
Worth a reset...? Press and hold clear and main for more than 6 seconds? :-\
Maybe, have looked up doing a reset and I think this was holding just one button down for a while.  I tried this and it turned itself off and made no difference  :(.
Title: Re: Clock symbol on CID missing.
Post by: Brikhead on 26 April 2012, 09:50:11
Isn't the clock symbol to do with ruote guidance in the nav? Ie set motorway only and the click changes to a motorway bridge. Or have I got the wrong end of the stick?

The 'clock' icon confused me too, I spent a while trying to find the stop watch function on the trip computer! It is, as you say, to do with route types and signifies quickest route selected.

It also mentions in the manual about pressing and holding the clock button above the display for a few seconds, do this while the stereo is on, gives options for automatic time and date setting via either RDS or GPS....
Title: Re: Clock symbol on CID missing.
Post by: Mr Hagon on 27 April 2012, 11:39:45
Isn't the clock symbol to do with ruote guidance in the nav? Ie set motorway only and the click changes to a motorway bridge. Or have I got the wrong end of the stick?

The 'clock' icon confused me too, I spent a while trying to find the stop watch function on the trip computer! It is, as you say, to do with route types and signifies quickest route selected.

It also mentions in the manual about pressing and holding the clock button above the display for a few seconds, do this while the stereo is on, gives options for automatic time and date setting via either RDS or GPS....
Thanks for the tip, I tried this but all it does is bring me to the page for automatic time correction with no option to say whether I want to use GPS or RDS.  Not an option on the NCDC 2015 I guess  :(.
Title: Re: Clock symbol on CID missing.
Post by: Brikhead on 28 April 2012, 15:14:47
It also mentions in the manual about pressing and holding the clock button above the display for a few seconds, do this while the stereo is on, gives options for automatic time and date setting via either RDS or GPS....
Thanks for the tip, I tried this but all it does is bring me to the page for automatic time correction with no option to say whether I want to use GPS or RDS.  Not an option on the NCDC 2015 I guess  :(.

Yeah, I tried it too and got the same result on my NCDC2013!
Either I misread the manual or Vx. have given the wrong information.