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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Big_Al on 30 March 2008, 19:31:08
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Outside on the drive this afternoon doing a bit of polishing on the Omega whilst helping my daughter to wash & polish her little "Micra". a car has pulled up directly outside a young guy has wrenched the passenger door open and started kicking and punching the s#it out of the woman passenger.
Not one to normally get involved in other peoples arguments, but this poor woman was screaming in pain and distress. I quickly went over ( only about 5 metres) and suggested to the guy that what he was doing was not the done thing.
Turning to me and leaving the woman alone, the car then drove off leaving the guy confronting me.
He was shouting abuse to me about what right had I to stop him "Giving his MOTHER a kicking and slapping"
He proceeded to want to fight me, to which I declined - only for him to start shouting "I know who you are, I know where you live, you had better watch your windows and your CARS--- Look out cause I'll be back" and off he walked.
By this time my 3 neighbours had heard the comotion and had also come out to have a look. Seems that 2 of them had seen all that had happened.
About 10 mins later the guy comes running around the corner towards us weilding a claw hammer with another of his friends in tow.
more abuse from him saying he is " gonna do me, my windows and my cars"
I am not normally one to "bottle it" in this sort of situation but the guy looked totally crazy. I got my daughter inside the house and thought I'd better ring the police. The guy was waving the hammer and screaming full abuse at me through the window.
Explained after ringing 999 that there was a lunatic outside my house threatening me with a hammer. Police said "We'll be right there"--20 mins later they turned up -to see the guy walking off up the road.
They did indeed pick both of thses guys up, but it seems that because they never actually hit me with this hammer or damaged anything - there is nothing they can do.
Also only if his mother makes a complaint or wants to press charges can something be done about the assault in the first place.
I am now sitting here wondering if I am going to get up tomorrow morning to find the Omega, the Vectra and my Transit van without windows.
The one thing that I find hard to come to terms with is this guy seemed to have no respect at all for other people in their own neighbourhood or no worry at all for the trouble he may get in.
It was not until my Mrs. said " Well, he's got nothing to worry about has he - because the laws in this country are more on his side than ours"
I have had my eyes opened today and I think shes right'
Anyone got any opinions on this one ? Regards from a slightly concerned, Big Al >:( :( :o :( :( PS. on a lighter note - Yes I have just changed my pants ! :y
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It was not until my Mrs. said " Well, he's got nothing to worry about has he - because the laws in this country are more on his side than ours" .....
In a nut shell! It's easier ...... :-X
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wtf fella !!! its a crazy arse world we live in matey !! i would probly have dropped him were he stood but then mabye would have had my car smashed up by the sounds of it !! think the coppers should got there a bit more radpidly than that !! probly doing some fella for speeding or parking wroung !! >:( >:(
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wtf fella !!! its a crazy arse world we live in matey !! i would probly have dropped him were he stood but then mabye would have had my car smashed up by the sounds of it !! think the coppers should got there a bit more radpidly than that !! probly doing some fella for speeding or parking wroung !! >:( >:(
Would've done the same but then you would obviously be the person in the wrong with the laws in this country.
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yep thats the sh!t we have to put up with fella >:(
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Any volunteers to sit on his drive overninght? :y
Only joking!
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too bloody far or i would !! ;D with my mate billy the bat :y
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Never confront someone without a big stick and the will to take the first swing. Otherwise, just take a video with your phone.
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Don't worry guys got me own Bat, Crowbar, triffic right hook, and the Mrs. - she'll scare the sh!t out of anyone. Al :y
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why cant he be arrested for threatening behavior/breach of the peace or something similar ? or maybe just get social workers to send him on a nice holiday to help manage his anger ! anyone who beats up his own mother should be hung drawn & quartered. >:( >:(
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Never confront someone without a big stick and the will to take the first swing. Otherwise, just take a video with your phone.
aint got no probs taking the first swing bud !! 6ft 2" 20 stone bring em on !! ;D ;D
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Jesus christ, why do I have to share this country with idiots?
I'd be temted to find a bigger hammer :y Seriously though, get a camera set up recording.
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Jesus christ, why do I have to share this country with idiots?
I'd be temted to find a bigger hammer :y Seriously though, get a camera set up recording.
sh!t goverment davlad >:(
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Big Al!
YOu're not on the map!
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1206144652
Click on the "map" button up top.
PM me for the password. :y
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Dont get me started on this subject, you will set me off. Sometimes I wish I was there when things like this happen, sometimes I am glad I wasnt because I know what I will do.
Put these cowards thugs on the frontline in Basra right now and lets see how tough they are...
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Dont get me started on this subject, you will set me off. Sometimes I wish I was there when things like this happen, sometimes I am glad I wasnt because I know what I will do.
Put these cowards thugs on the frontline in Basra right now and lets see how tough they are...
sounds like a plan matey !! :y
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Dont get me started on this subject, you will set me off. Sometimes I wish I was there when things like this happen, sometimes I am glad I wasnt because I know what I will do.
Put these cowards thugs on the frontline in Basra right now and lets see how tough they are...
sounds like a plan matey !! :y
Not likely, its probably against the thugs human rights. Lets not mention mother or the other victims of rather cowards like him.
Count to ten ....
1...2....3....4.....5...
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If he was carrying a hammer, thats an offensive weapon
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If he was carrying a hammer, thats an offensive weapon
yes pete but he didnt use it !!! >:(
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If he was carrying a hammer, thats an offensive weapon
Or going equipped the police should have nailed him >:(
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If he was carrying a hammer, thats an offensive weapon
Or going equipped the police should have nailed him >:(
as usual police not bothered took them 20 mins to get there !! >:(
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The legal side needs addressing. I'm a big ugly so & so with real contempt for these little tinkers & as some have said i would'nt trade words with such lowlife scum, attack is the best form of defence but one good hit or headbutt can result in a broken nose, jaw, eye damage, plus what can be done with certain body blows etc.
I've no qualms with leaving such scum with bleeding bones, they deserve it, but in court I'd be the bad bloke. No fault lies with the police, they hate these winkers as much as we do but their hands are tied with redtape CPS etc. I don't want to get nicked for assault or have my house/car damaged, i hav'nt got much but why should some lowlife take/break it?
I really wish such situations did'nt arise 'cos i'm a mellow sort of bloke really, i've had no bother, but if i did there's only one way to deal with it. >:(
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The legal side needs addressing. I'm a big ugly so & so with real contempt for these little tinkers & as some have said i would'nt trade words with such lowlife scum, attack is the best form of defence but one good hit or headbutt can result in a broken nose, jaw, eye damage, plus what can be done with certain body blows etc.
I've no qualms with leaving such scum with bleeding bones, they deserve it, but in court I'd be the bad bloke. No fault lies with the police, they hate these winkers as much as we do but their hands are tied with redtape CPS etc. I don't want to get nicked for assault or have my house/car damaged, i hav'nt got much but why should some lowlife take/break it?
I really wish such situations did'nt arise 'cos i'm a mellow sort of bloke really, i've had no bother, but if i did there's only one way to deal with it. >:(
right with ya guy !! >:(
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Round here he would of been nicked on A section 5 public order act and yes carrying an offensive weapon ( or going equipped)
9 times out of ten it depends on which officer turns up at the time.
I work in the security sector at a shopping centre and some of the police officers are proper nutters. I wont go into too much detail.... :y
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...... I wont go into too much detail.... :y
Why? We're all ears! ::) :y :y
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...... I wont go into too much detail.... :y
Why? We're all ears! ::) :y :y
I know what you're talking about ;) :y
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Get some friends, grab him, tie him up and blindfold him, drive to somewhere quiet and far from home, and
Correct answer is leave him there, alternatives, is strip him first, or give him a shovel
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Well????
I was working with a SOCO a couple of weeks ago and he had little time for many young pc's he did not go into any detail, despite my trying. :(
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Thanks everyone for the replies so far.
I'll let you all know if anything occurs tonight or by tomorrow evening.
( should have took a quick piccy shouldn't I )
He don't wanna touch my "Meega" though...... >:(
regards, Al :y
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If there are two - take both give then ropinol (sp) and viagra and place them in comprimising positions, then they will NEVER bother you again
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This idiot should have been nicked with section 4 public order act, using threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour with intent.
Statements should then have been taken and idiot charged.
At court, however, idiot would have got a community punishment order and then free to return and smash windows.....
The police who attended obviously didn't want to deal with this properly. My view is, NICK THE IDIOT - AT LEAST HE'S IN A CELL FOR A FEW HOURS AND TAX PAYERS GET WHAT THEY PAY FOR - A FIRM EFFECTIVE POLICE RESPONSE!
Sadly, it depends on the police officers that attend. A good 'un would have done this, lazy coppers ruin reputations of police in general!
Doesn't sort out the problem of the scrote returning. That's why courts should hand out 7 day prison sentences and £1k fines directly out of their benefits. Clearly, the idiot doesn't work, who'd be able to employ such a idiot?
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Dont get me started on this subject, you will set me off. Sometimes I wish I was there when things like this happen, sometimes I am glad I wasnt because I know what I will do.
Put these cowards thugs on the frontline in Basra right now and lets see how tough they are...
sounds like a plan matey !! :y
Yes, in dayglow jackets with flashing lights on there head and scores on their jackets!
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Can't you get your witnesses to make statements for you, present them to the police with a request for an explanation as to why they won't take it further, and get your local newspaper involved.
In my area, the local Homewatch group can get police CCTV cameras set up in your window to record anti-social behaviour. Worth a try? Takes time, unfortunately.
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Can't you get your witnesses to make statements for you, present them to the police with a request for an explanation as to why they won't take it further, and get your local newspaper involved.
In my area, the local Homewatch group can get police CCTV cameras set up in your window to record anti-social behaviour. Worth a try? Takes time, unfortunately.
Sounds worth a try. A bit of bad publicity might prod the plod into action next time someone's in the same position.
Kevin
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i'm thinking the only offence he could be done for towards you is affray, being as he'd originally left, then returned with the weapon purposely to confront you in his threatening manner and i'm also thinking you would have to actually take him to court for any sort of prosecution
i wonder if the cops even questioned his possession of a claw hammer, in which case upon your complaint, could have arrested him "under suspicion" of his crime
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You haven't now got sore knuckles, have you?
On second thoughts, don't answer! But I hope you have.
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depressing reading really, these retards know exactly where they legally stand, but funny how none of them become lawyers !! ;)
pop a cctv camera up and if something does happen one night youve got the tw$t.
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All quiet last night? :y
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Druggies :-/ Lack of Morals >:( Sh1t Government :y
Get that Zimbabwee geezer on the job.... "Bob Mugabee"
Can he fix it? Yes he can!! ;D ;D ;D
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Sorry everyone, bit late with the update. :-[ :-[
Everything quiet last night, no damage or re-percussions.
Guess I'll just leave it at that --
CCTV suggestions from you guys seem a good idea though.
Cheers, Big Al :y :y
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To be honest you made the mistake of getting involved, however gallant it may have been because as said the police don't want to know and if it had come to blows between the two of you, who knows what he might have done to you in todays volatile society.
In the long run i believe if it's on you own doorstep then walk away because the worlds going NUTS and it's not worth putting your family or property at risk especially when if you do come out on top your more likely to end up behind bars than the a**ehole who started it.
I know it's hard to stand back and watch something like that go down but the risks far outweigh the good feeling you would get sending the s**tbag to hospital, although having said that i'm not sure what i would do in that situation, probably the same as you, and the Police wonder why people won't make a complaint.
WHAT A WORLD!!!
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I have heard comments about this and how to get away with protecting yourself.
TBH I haven't had any issues since moving to Worcester, but I have been a victim before and had to be restrained from retaliation.
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i'm thinking the only offence he could be done for towards you is affray, being as he'd originally left, then returned with the weapon purposely to confront you in his threatening manner and i'm also thinking you would have to actually take him to court for any sort of prosecution
i wonder if the cops even questioned his possession of a claw hammer, in which case upon your complaint, could have arrested him "under suspicion" of his crime
This isn't affray (S3 POA) but it S4 as I stated earlier.
Under previous legislation, both were not arrestable offences but, under SOCAP, a police officer can arrest at any time within six months of the offence - providing justification can be given - which it surely merits here!!!!
It angers me, this ar$ehole should have been arrested, the coopers 'cuffed' the job; why do such coppers even attend work if they're not going to do what they're paid to do!?!!! >:(
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Just one of the reasons we left the UK.
In rural areas in Spain there seems to be very little crime or yobbish behaviour. The main reason is that everyone knows everyone and anyone stepping out of line would get a thick ear from the observer and from their dad when they got home. Bit like Britain was like 30 years ago.
I never thought I would say it but these yobs should be rounded up and sent to a boot camp (with little in the way of "rights" while they were there). I quite like the idea of front line Basra but I suspect the army doesn't want that sort but professionals.
varche
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they could keep them for cannon fodder scenarios ;)
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What, like target practice??? ;D
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they could keep them for cannon fodder scenarios ;)
And to (mis)quote South Park The Movie
"Operation get behind the chavs"
I'm all for it :y :y :y
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sorry but i for one would not allow these cretins anywhere near the armed forces...you could not trust em in a fire fight....i would prefer to shove em in a big dark and deep hole and fill it in... >:(
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What, like target practice??? ;D
one of those situations were they are perhaps under heavy attack and will likely suffer some losses,time to round up the scumbags who beat up their own mothers and send them out first,keep the proper soldiers safe :y