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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: richardirv on 01 April 2008, 13:23:56
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2001+ V6 OWNERS! BEND OVER! £400+ ROAD TAX NEXT YEAR IF I READ THE INFORMATION CORRECTLY!
I can't believe this country! We get bent over in every aspect of life!
The Road tax just being one!
I'm speechless!! :o :o :'( :'(
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http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1206472306
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1206396262
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1206305899
plus a few others, I think.... ;)
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I'm ok i dont pay road tax am exempt ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I'm ok i dont pay road tax am exempt ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Can I ask why or is this just a wind up, or disability. Are diabled tax free cars completly exempt from this ?
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I'm ok i dont pay road tax am exempt ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Can I ask why or is this just a wind up, or disability. Are diabled tax free cars completly exempt from this ?
Yup....
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I'm ok i dont pay road tax am exempt ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Can I ask why or is this just a wind up, or disability. Are diabled tax free cars completly exempt from this ?
Yup....[/quote]
That is completly bl00dy unfair, and I don't swear.
Oh and before I get accused of being some kind of fashist, my Grandfather was disabled from the age of 23, so I grew up with a disabled relative living with us, so I do no the problems.
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I'm ok i dont pay road tax am exempt ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Can I ask why or is this just a wind up, or disability. Are diabled tax free cars completly exempt from this ?
Yup....[/quote]
That is completly bl00dy unfair, and I don't swear.
Oh and before I get accused of being some kind of fashist, my Grandfather was disabled from the age of 23, so I grew up with a disabled relative living with us, so I do no the problems.
why ????
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why ????
I fail to see why it's unfair.
When road taxes are getting punitive in the hope that it influences us able bodied people to use the public transport system why should those who have no option but use a car (and often a large one converted for wheelchair access, etc.) be included in that tax regime?
Kevin
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why ????
I fail to see why it's unfair.
When road taxes are getting punitive in the hope that it influences us able bodied people to use the public transport system why should those who have no option but use a car (and often a large one converted for wheelchair access, etc.) be included in that tax regime?
Kevin
very nicely put Kevin .Would Manthatch ban the blue badge scheme because i (and many folk like me) can park on double yellow lines without receiving fine,
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The increase does not worry me unduely....its an extra 20 quid a month thats all which lets be honest, in the grand scheme of things is bugger all!
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I do think its very wrong to tax something that was built 7 years ago, they should be targeting new designs not something that already exists. But, hence why its a greed tax and not an environmental tax.
In fact, from what I can see, none of these taxes are environmental ones as none of the revenue from them is used to reduce pollution, its all just ploughed into immigrants, dossers, MP's second homes and the monstrously in-efficient NHS.
[soapboxmode=off]
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well i for one will not be givin up my miggy £400 road tax or not. >:(
and the chancellor can shove the micra right up his A** :o am i pissed or wat, if it aint moneybags ken with his buck making idears then, its road priceing/road tax increase. everytime i go into my garage the petrol has gone up another penny a litre but really they should do what they preach i mean, you dont see gordon brown going to the commons in a micra. na im keepin me miggy all 3 litres of it they aint going to spoil my fun and my right to drive what i please.
anyhow think about it take 20 miggys of the road and what do you have, 40 micras i ask you............
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We all kick up when these rises are announced and any ammount of protesting is not gonna change it.
We'll mostly all still be driving our beloved Omega's when this high rate comes in won't we .....Won't we?
Thinking about it ... suppose there would be a point where I would say enough is enough :( :( :(
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The increase does not worry me unduely....its an extra 20 quid a month thats all which lets be honest, in the grand scheme of things is bugger all!
[soapboxmode=on]
I do think its very wrong to tax something that was built 7 years ago, they should be targeting new designs not something that already exists. But, hence why its a greed tax and not an environmental tax.
In fact, from what I can see, none of these taxes are environmental ones as none of the revenue from them is used to reduce pollution, its all just ploughed into immigrants, dossers, MP's second homes and the monstrously in-efficient NHS.
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Very true. Some fairly modest large family cars will be screwed by this too. You don't need much CO2 to be paying more under the new system.
I can imagine those with families large enough not to be able to fit into a Corsa, who get squeezed by this tax, will respond by ditching their second car and running a large family car for more miles per year, or one built before 2001. How does that reduce CO2 emissions, exactly?
Kevin
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:y well said kevin
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i am so glad that my car is on a 99 plate. and only a 2ltr.
but as someone has said already its only an extra £20 per month. still too much though.
they should have said cars after 2005 that would have given families a chioce
I know that some familes have 4/5yrs old cars cos they can t afford to purchase a newer on! me being one of them! :( not that i want to get rid of my migg.
this country is fallin to peices. :(
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To penalize owners of larger older cars is wrong >:( When you consider the amount of co2 emitted from the exaust of an older car with the amount produced in making a brand new Micra it just doesn't add up.
I wonder about the intelligence of so called educated M.P's when they obviously have no common sense >:(
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knee jerk reaction to win more votes from the tree huggers
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they have put the countrys finances very deeply into the red at the start of a serious economic downturn,they are desperate to raise revenue and the more desperate they become the more ludicrous the revenue raising schemes will be.there WILL be worse to come. >:(
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2001+ V6 OWNERS! BEND OVER! £400+ ROAD TAX NEXT YEAR IF I READ THE INFORMATION CORRECTLY!
I can't believe this country! We get bent over in every aspect of life!
The Road tax just being one!
I'm speechless!! :o :o :'( :'(
LK and Postie Pat know all about that......... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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The increase does not worry me unduely....its an extra 20 quid a month thats all which lets be honest, in the grand scheme of things is bugger all!
[soapboxmode=on]
I do think its very wrong to tax something that was built 7 years ago, they should be targeting new designs not something that already exists. But, hence why its a greed tax and not an environmental tax.
In fact, from what I can see, none of these taxes are environmental ones as none of the revenue from them is used to reduce pollution, its all just ploughed into immigrants, dossers, MP's second homes and the monstrously in-efficient NHS.[soapboxmode=off]
Not forgetting the bail out of northern rock and the sh"t the goverment are in as the money has ran out nearly for the 2012 games. >:( >:(
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The increase does not worry me unduely....its an extra 20 quid a month thats all which lets be honest, in the grand scheme of things is bugger all!
[soapboxmode=on]
I do think its very wrong to tax something that was built 7 years ago, they should be targeting new designs not something that already exists. But, hence why its a greed tax and not an environmental tax.
In fact, from what I can see, none of these taxes are environmental ones as none of the revenue from them is used to reduce pollution, its all just ploughed into immigrants, dossers, MP's second homes and the monstrously in-efficient NHS.[soapboxmode=off]
Not forgetting the bail out of northern rock and the sh"t the goverment are in as the money has ran out nearly for the 2012 games. >:( >:(
does anyone call great Britain great any more or are we just the dumping ground for the rest of Europe and our own MPs
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The increase does not worry me unduely....its an extra 20 quid a month thats all which lets be honest, in the grand scheme of things is bugger all!
[soapboxmode=on]
I do think its very wrong to tax something that was built 7 years ago, they should be targeting new designs not something that already exists. But, hence why its a greed tax and not an environmental tax.
In fact, from what I can see, none of these taxes are environmental ones as none of the revenue from them is used to reduce pollution, its all just ploughed into immigrants, dossers, MP's second homes and the monstrously in-efficient NHS.[soapboxmode=off]
Not forgetting the bail out of northern rock and the sh"t the goverment are in as the money has ran out nearly for the 2012 games. >:( >:(
does anyone call great Britain great any more or are we just the dumping ground for the rest of Europe and our own MPs
I do........because there are WORSE places in the world to live....there are better places too, but my blood runs Union Flag :y :y
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2001+ V6 OWNERS! BEND OVER! £400+ ROAD TAX NEXT YEAR IF I READ THE INFORMATION CORRECTLY!
I can't believe this country! We get bent over in every aspect of life!
The Road tax just being one!
I'm speechless!! :o :o :'( :'(
IIRC the 2.2's emissions are in the same category as well. A 1.6 Vauxhall Astra 8valve goes up to £300 not exactly a chelsea tractor!!!
We are shafted more and more every day with direct and indirect taxation. An extra 3p a can is really going to deter binge drinkers isn't it? As long as they can take the easy option and raise money to fund the massive wasteful overspends this unelected prime minister will hide behind any excuse. And while I am on the soap box why is a jock allowed to be pm when english mp's are not allowed a vote north of the border? Bring on the May elections and lets hope this shower is given a hiding at the ballot box.Remember the assault on your motoring budget when you vote.
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2001+ V6 OWNERS! BEND OVER! £400+ ROAD TAX NEXT YEAR IF I READ THE INFORMATION CORRECTLY!
I can't believe this country! We get bent over in every aspect of life!
The Road tax just being one!
I'm speechless!! :o :o :'( :'(
IIRC the 2.2's emissions are in the same category as well. A 1.6 Vauxhall Astra 8valve goes up to £300 not exactly a chelsea tractor!!!
We are shafted more and more every day with direct and indirect taxation. An extra 3p a can is really going to deter binge drinkers isn't it? As long as they can take the easy option and raise money to fund the massive wasteful overspends this unelected prime minister will hide behind any excuse. And while I am on the soap box why is a jock allowed to be pm when english mp's are not allowed a vote north of the border? Bring on the May elections and lets hope this shower is given a hiding at the ballot box.Remember the assault on your motoring budget when you vote.
No labour vote this time for me >:( >:(
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2001+ V6 OWNERS! BEND OVER! £400+ ROAD TAX NEXT YEAR IF I READ THE INFORMATION CORRECTLY!
I can't believe this country! We get bent over in every aspect of life!
The Road tax just being one!
I'm speechless!! :o :o :'( :'(
IIRC the 2.2's emissions are in the same category as well. A 1.6 Vauxhall Astra 8valve goes up to £300 not exactly a chelsea tractor!!!
We are shafted more and more every day with direct and indirect taxation. An extra 3p a can is really going to deter binge drinkers isn't it? As long as they can take the easy option and raise money to fund the massive wasteful overspends this unelected prime minister will hide behind any excuse. And while I am on the soap box why is a jock allowed to be pm when english mp's are not allowed a vote north of the border? Bring on the May elections and lets hope this shower is given a hiding at the ballot box.Remember the assault on your motoring budget when you vote.
No labour vote this time for me >:( >:(
I think that goes without saying :y
Never thought I'd be happy to be driving a '98 2.5
How about if you all convert your cars to run on LPG , do you still have to pay same amount of road tax ? And you wouldn't have to pay £5 >:( a gallon either!!!
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2001+ V6 OWNERS! BEND OVER! £400+ ROAD TAX NEXT YEAR IF I READ THE INFORMATION CORRECTLY!
I can't believe this country! We get bent over in every aspect of life!
The Road tax just being one!
I'm speechless!! :o :o :'( :'(
IIRC the 2.2's emissions are in the same category as well. A 1.6 Vauxhall Astra 8valve goes up to £300 not exactly a chelsea tractor!!!
We are shafted more and more every day with direct and indirect taxation. An extra 3p a can is really going to deter binge drinkers isn't it? As long as they can take the easy option and raise money to fund the massive wasteful overspends this unelected prime minister will hide behind any excuse. And while I am on the soap box why is a jock allowed to be pm when english mp's are not allowed a vote north of the border? Bring on the May elections and lets hope this shower is given a hiding at the ballot box.Remember the assault on your motoring budget when you vote.
No labour vote this time for me >:( >:(
Personally speaking I feel the opposite way. I didn't vote for them last time, but now they've got us onto the brink of a recession and created this imminent and, frankly now unavoidable, mess, I'm almost inclined to give them my vote so that they are forced into being the party responsible for dealing with it.
If they are allowed off the hook now, they will be able to sit back and attack the new party in power as if it were their fault. They'll be able to look back over the last period that they have held power and refer to is as a period of prosperity that is largely unmarred by what is inevitably to come now and is as a result of their overspending and mis-management.
Make them suffer with the rest of us now.
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re the LPG conversion idea. Even with my low mileage of about 7k a year I reckon it will pay for itself in a couple of years. if there is sufficient interest from this forum I wonder if a bulk deal could be done with a supplier of the kit etc for members here.
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It mainly attacks the average bloke/woman who goes to work and fancies a nice roomy car, (often to carry kids, dogs etc) for weekend use. The bulk of these people don't do massive mileages and opt for a 5,6,7 year old miggy or Range Rover etc. because they can't afford a newer one. I don't think many footballers or other vastly overpayed people will ditch their new gas guzzlers because of the hike in road tax!
>:( >:(
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I'm ok i dont pay road tax am exempt ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Can I ask why or is this just a wind up, or disability. Are diabled tax free cars completly exempt from this ?
Yup....[/quote]
That is completly bl00dy unfair, and I don't swear.
Oh and before I get accused of being some kind of fashist, my Grandfather was disabled from the age of 23, so I grew up with a disabled relative living with us, so I do no the problems.
why ????
Because the disability scheme is the most abused benfit in this country.
About a year ago did a job in a road with no parking apart from a disabled bay, man goes to work every day driving his car from his personal disabled bay, he was not disabled, his 10 year old son was picked up each day and dropped off each day by taxi.
The chap who bought my last car was born with one hand missing, told me has never worked a day in his life and laughed.
OK two bad cases there are many legitamate cases. but why should a disabled person be able to drive a car bought by the taxpayer in many cases (motability), and not be even concerned about the emissions his car produces. And more importantly his decision to buy a car is just "what make and model" The rest of us now have to consider costs way beyond our control. Petrol cost if I don't like it I buy a small engine or do less miles, a choice. Insurance, many companies to choose from with varying levels of cover, a choice. Road Fund Licence, for low mileage people, like me I cannot justify £400+ to this rip off government, no choice but small car.
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why ????
I fail to see why it's unfair.
When road taxes are getting punitive in the hope that it influences us able bodied people to use the public transport system why should those who have no option but use a car (and often a large one converted for wheelchair access, etc.) be included in that tax regime?
Kevin
very nicely put Kevin .Would Manthatch ban the blue badge scheme because i (and many folk like me) can park on double yellow lines without receiving fine,
Can't get wheel clamped either. ;D ;D ;D
Seriously though only one free tax disc, you have to pay for any second or third etc car. :( :( :(
Anyone can have free tax, just run a classic car. :D over 25 years old.
I have a feeling that Jo Public does not realise yet, these tax hikes, and yes I agree, it will hit the ordinary man in the street with a family who need a big car. :(
Lates against the motorist is that yu can now be issued with a parking fine from cctv evidence, no need for a warden. :( :( :( :(Not sure if they can see a blue badge with the camera.
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I'm ok i dont pay road tax am exempt ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Can I ask why or is this just a wind up, or disability. Are diabled tax free cars completly exempt from this ?
Yup....[/quote]
That is completly bl00dy unfair, and I don't swear.
Oh and before I get accused of being some kind of fashist, my Grandfather was disabled from the age of 23, so I grew up with a disabled relative living with us, so I do no the problems.
why ????
Because the disability scheme is the most abused benfit in this country.
About a year ago did a job in a road with no parking apart from a disabled bay, man goes to work every day driving his car from his personal disabled bay, he was not disabled, his 10 year old son was picked up each day and dropped off each day by taxi.
The chap who bought my last car was born with one hand missing, told me has never worked a day in his life and laughed.
OK two bad cases there are many legitamate cases. but why should a disabled person be able to drive a car bought by the taxpayer in many cases (motability), and not be even concerned about the emissions his car produces. And more importantly his decision to buy a car is just "what make and model" The rest of us now have to consider costs way beyond our control. Petrol cost if I don't like it I buy a small engine or do less miles, a choice. Insurance, many companies to choose from with varying levels of cover, a choice. Road Fund Licence, for low mileage people, like me I cannot justify £400+ to this rip off government, no choice but small car.
You would loose far more in depreciation on a replacement car than it would cost in car tax....
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I'm ok i dont pay road tax am exempt ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Can I ask why or is this just a wind up, or disability. Are diabled tax free cars completly exempt from this ?
Yup....[/quote]
That is completly bl00dy unfair, and I don't swear.
Oh and before I get accused of being some kind of fashist, my Grandfather was disabled from the age of 23, so I grew up with a disabled relative living with us, so I do no the problems.
why ????
Because the disability scheme is the most abused benfit in this country.
About a year ago did a job in a road with no parking apart from a disabled bay, man goes to work every day driving his car from his personal disabled bay, he was not disabled, his 10 year old son was picked up each day and dropped off each day by taxi.
The chap who bought my last car was born with one hand missing, told me has never worked a day in his life and laughed.
OK two bad cases there are many legitamate cases. but why should a disabled person be able to drive a car bought by the taxpayer in many cases (motability), and not be even concerned about the emissions his car produces. And more importantly his decision to buy a car is just "what make and model" The rest of us now have to consider costs way beyond our control. Petrol cost if I don't like it I buy a small engine or do less miles, a choice. Insurance, many companies to choose from with varying levels of cover, a choice. Road Fund Licence, for low mileage people, like me I cannot justify £400+ to this rip off government, no choice but small car.
How do you know the Man is not disabled? please do tell me what is a disabled person :(
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i believe disabled people can have a car or disability benifit but not both.but more importantly in a country as rich and highly taxed as this one,if my money is going to be spent for me then i am more than happy for it to be spent on genuinely disabled people.you do have a point though about people abusing the system and it makes me angry.it doesnt just take the p155 out of the taxpayer but also the genuinely disabled.i was told by a doctor that the criteria to qualify is that you must be unable to walk more than 300 metres and i personally know 2 people who recieve disability benifits who regularily walk miles
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I'm ok i dont pay road tax am exempt ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Can I ask why or is this just a wind up, or disability. Are diabled tax free cars completly exempt from this ?
Yup....[/quote]
That is completly bl00dy unfair, and I don't swear.
Oh and before I get accused of being some kind of fashist, my Grandfather was disabled from the age of 23, so I grew up with a disabled relative living with us, so I do no the problems.
why ????
Because the disability scheme is the most abused benfit in this country.
About a year ago did a job in a road with no parking apart from a disabled bay, man goes to work every day driving his car from his personal disabled bay, he was not disabled, his 10 year old son was picked up each day and dropped off each day by taxi.
The chap who bought my last car was born with one hand missing, told me has never worked a day in his life and laughed.
OK two bad cases there are many legitamate cases. but why should a disabled person be able to drive a car bought by the taxpayer in many cases (motability), and not be even concerned about the emissions his car produces. And more importantly his decision to buy a car is just "what make and model" The rest of us now have to consider costs way beyond our control. Petrol cost if I don't like it I buy a small engine or do less miles, a choice. Insurance, many companies to choose from with varying levels of cover, a choice. Road Fund Licence, for low mileage people, like me I cannot justify £400+ to this rip off government, no choice but small car.
How do you know the Man is not disabled? please do tell me what is a disabled person :(
Because I was working the same road for about 2 weeks and spoke to many of the neighbours, and as I was wearing a yellow reflective jacket, carrying electronic equipment and making notes, the neighbours thought I had come to check on this particular individual.
The neighbours hated him, as they considered him to be....... I won't say anymore.
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i believe disabled people can have a car or disability benifit but not both.but more importantly in a country as rich and highly taxed as this one,if my money is going to be spent for me then i am more than happy for it to be spent on genuinely disabled people.you do have a point though about people abusing the system and it makes me angry.it doesnt just take the p155 out of the taxpayer but also the genuinely disabled.i was told by a doctor that the criteria to qualify is that you must be unable to walk more than 300 metres and i personally know 2 people who recieve disability benifits who regularily walk miles
One of my neighbours is class as disabled, whilst he was driving his 17 ton lorry a few years ago he had to swerve to miss a cyclist, as he did he hit the kerb, the steering wheel spun and he broke his thumb...after many months of being assessed he was classed as being 14% disabled as he only had 90% use of his thumb.............he now has a mobility car, his own space and a badge to park where he likes............now you rather tell me where that is fair............rather system is bent. >:( >:( >:( >:(
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if true it is very wrong >:(
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i believe disabled people can have a car or disability benifit but not both.but more importantly in a country as rich and highly taxed as this one,if my money is going to be spent for me then i am more than happy for it to be spent on genuinely disabled people.you do have a point though about people abusing the system and it makes me angry.it doesnt just take the p155 out of the taxpayer but also the genuinely disabled.i was told by a doctor that the criteria to qualify is that you must be unable to walk more than 300 metres and i personally know 2 people who recieve disability benifits who regularily walk miles
One of my neighbours is class as disabled, whilst he was driving his 17 ton lorry a few years ago he had to swerve to miss a cyclist, as he did he hit the kerb, the steering wheel spun and he broke his thumb...after many months of being assessed he was classed as being 14% disabled as he only had 90% use of his thumb.............he now has a mobility car, his own space and a badge to park where he likes............now you rather tell me where that is fair............rather system is bent. >:( >:( >:( >:(
That's great, my 67 year old father fell off his BSA 2 years ago and broke his thumb, I must get him to apply for the tax on wife's car.
Seriously he does have a "disabled thumb" but he his not disabled and has no intention of trying to become so.
So sell the Volvo or give the government £400+ hmmm I would rather shove £400 one pound coins up gordons back passage.
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i believe disabled people can have a car or disability benifit but not both.but more importantly in a country as rich and highly taxed as this one,if my money is going to be spent for me then i am more than happy for it to be spent on genuinely disabled people.you do have a point though about people abusing the system and it makes me angry.it doesnt just take the p155 out of the taxpayer but also the genuinely disabled.i was told by a doctor that the criteria to qualify is that you must be unable to walk more than 300 metres and i personally know 2 people who recieve disability benifits who regularily walk miles
One of my neighbours is class as disabled, whilst he was driving his 17 ton lorry a few years ago he had to swerve to miss a cyclist, as he did he hit the kerb, the steering wheel spun and he broke his thumb...after many months of being assessed he was classed as being 14% disabled as he only had 90% use of his thumb.............he now has a mobility car, his own space and a badge to park where he likes............now you rather tell me where that is fair............rather system is bent. >:( >:( >:( >:(
Something not quite right there, a thumb would not affect mobility, unless there is some other uderlying reason.
It is not the GP who decides mobility benefit, it is a difficult process.
Some conditions qualify, no questions asked sort of thing, as you would expect.
I have a mobility car but if you were to see me you would not say I was disabled, this can make life even harder. I work full time and I do not have a personal parking space, even at work.
I see a lot of abuse of the blue badge, mainly by parents of disabled children who will use this even without the child. They will use the car, without the child and unless they are doing direct business in regard to the child then they should not even use the car.
It is a big issue, so here endeth my 2d. :)
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if true it is very wrong >:(
Its true............the guy is a distant cousin to my wifes mother.........rather waster that he is. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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i believe disabled people can have a car or disability benifit but not both.but more importantly in a country as rich and highly taxed as this one,if my money is going to be spent for me then i am more than happy for it to be spent on genuinely disabled people.you do have a point though about people abusing the system and it makes me angry.it doesnt just take the p155 out of the taxpayer but also the genuinely disabled.i was told by a doctor that the criteria to qualify is that you must be unable to walk more than 300 metres and i personally know 2 people who recieve disability benifits who regularily walk miles
One of my neighbours is class as disabled, whilst he was driving his 17 ton lorry a few years ago he had to swerve to miss a cyclist, as he did he hit the kerb, the steering wheel spun and he broke his thumb...after many months of being assessed he was classed as being 14% disabled as he only had 90% use of his thumb.............he now has a mobility car, his own space and a badge to park where he likes............now you rather tell me where that is fair............rather system is bent. >:( >:( >:( >:(
Something not quite right there, a thumb would not affect mobility, unless there is some other uderlying reason.
It is not the GP who decides mobility benefit, it is a difficult process.
Some conditions qualify, no questions asked sort of thing, as you would expect.
I have a mobility car but if you were to see me you would not say I was disabled, this can make life even harder. I work full time and I do not have a personal parking space, even at work.
I see a lot of abuse of the blue badge, mainly by parents of disabled children who will use this even without the child. They will use the car, without the child and unless they are doing direct business in regard to the child then they should not even use the car.
It is a big issue, so here endeth my 2d. :)
Mike...i dont disagree with mobility being given to those who need it but i can assure you this chap on my street does not warrant what he gets.he openly brags about what he gets.........my point is that it is abused by a lot of people....who assesses these people
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im sure my m8 said he insured his daughters car for 35 quid last week. shes got a citreon c1 i think
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sorry meant taxed not insured :-[ :-[
richie
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im sure my m8 said he insured his daughters car for 35 quid last week. shes got a citreon c1 i think
What is it...a plastic noddy kids car... ;D ;D ;D
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sorry meant taxed not insured :-[ :-[
richie
break.and i replied.. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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i believe disabled people can have a car or disability benifit but not both.but more importantly in a country as rich and highly taxed as this one,if my money is going to be spent for me then i am more than happy for it to be spent on genuinely disabled people.you do have a point though about people abusing the system and it makes me angry.it doesnt just take the p155 out of the taxpayer but also the genuinely disabled.i was told by a doctor that the criteria to qualify is that you must be unable to walk more than 300 metres and i personally know 2 people who recieve disability benifits who regularily walk miles
One of my neighbours is class as disabled, whilst he was driving his 17 ton lorry a few years ago he had to swerve to miss a cyclist, as he did he hit the kerb, the steering wheel spun and he broke his thumb...after many months of being assessed he was classed as being 14% disabled as he only had 90% use of his thumb.............he now has a mobility car, his own space and a badge to park where he likes............now you rather tell me where that is fair............rather system is bent. >:( >:( >:( >:(
Something not quite right there, a thumb would not affect mobility, unless there is some other uderlying reason.
It is not the GP who decides mobility benefit, it is a difficult process.
Some conditions qualify, no questions asked sort of thing, as you would expect.
I have a mobility car but if you were to see me you would not say I was disabled, this can make life even harder. I work full time and I do not have a personal parking space, even at work.
I see a lot of abuse of the blue badge, mainly by parents of disabled children who will use this even without the child. They will use the car, without the child and unless they are doing direct business in regard to the child then they should not even use the car.
It is a big issue, so here endeth my 2d. :)
Dear Mike
I no I have said some pretty horrible things, please do not take it that I am against disabled people. My grandfather spent the best part of his life in a wheelchair. I must have pushed that chair miles in my teenage years, and yes that was during the late 70s and peoples views then where very different to now. Many so called respectable people had no idea how to behave around my grandfather.
It was fantastic how he could put doctors nurses etc. in there place with such eloquence.
People like my grandfather fought for this country. I am sure he is now saying why did we bother.
Mike
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i believe disabled people can have a car or disability benifit but not both.but more importantly in a country as rich and highly taxed as this one,if my money is going to be spent for me then i am more than happy for it to be spent on genuinely disabled people.you do have a point though about people abusing the system and it makes me angry.it doesnt just take the p155 out of the taxpayer but also the genuinely disabled.i was told by a doctor that the criteria to qualify is that you must be unable to walk more than 300 metres and i personally know 2 people who recieve disability benifits who regularily walk miles
One of my neighbours is class as disabled, whilst he was driving his 17 ton lorry a few years ago he had to swerve to miss a cyclist, as he did he hit the kerb, the steering wheel spun and he broke his thumb...after many months of being assessed he was classed as being 14% disabled as he only had 90% use of his thumb.............he now has a mobility car, his own space and a badge to park where he likes............now you rather tell me where that is fair............rather system is bent. >:( >:( >:( >:(
Something not quite right there, a thumb would not affect mobility, unless there is some other uderlying reason.
It is not the GP who decides mobility benefit, it is a difficult process.
Some conditions qualify, no questions asked sort of thing, as you would expect.
I have a mobility car but if you were to see me you would not say I was disabled, this can make life even harder. I work full time and I do not have a personal parking space, even at work.
I see a lot of abuse of the blue badge, mainly by parents of disabled children who will use this even without the child. They will use the car, without the child and unless they are doing direct business in regard to the child then they should not even use the car.
It is a big issue, so here endeth my 2d. :)
Mike...i dont disagree with mobility being given to those who need it but i can assure you this chap on my street does not warrant what he gets.he openly brags about what he gets.........my point is that it is abused by a lot of people....who assesses these people
An application is made to a government department. You apply for DLA, disabled living allowance, this looks at a range of entitlement to disability benefits, one of which is mobilty. There is a high and a low rate, only the high rate will get you a car.
The form is very long and complicated and designed to 'trick you' lmho like many forms, information is also gathered from GP and hospital consultants, to confirm diagnosis.
Like everything it is open to abuse, but my main point is that you can not always tell if a person is disabled from looking at them.
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i believe disabled people can have a car or disability benifit but not both.but more importantly in a country as rich and highly taxed as this one,if my money is going to be spent for me then i am more than happy for it to be spent on genuinely disabled people.you do have a point though about people abusing the system and it makes me angry.it doesnt just take the p155 out of the taxpayer but also the genuinely disabled.i was told by a doctor that the criteria to qualify is that you must be unable to walk more than 300 metres and i personally know 2 people who recieve disability benifits who regularily walk miles
One of my neighbours is class as disabled, whilst he was driving his 17 ton lorry a few years ago he had to swerve to miss a cyclist, as he did he hit the kerb, the steering wheel spun and he broke his thumb...after many months of being assessed he was classed as being 14% disabled as he only had 90% use of his thumb.............he now has a mobility car, his own space and a badge to park where he likes............now you rather tell me where that is fair............rather system is bent. >:( >:( >:( >:(
Something not quite right there, a thumb would not affect mobility, unless there is some other uderlying reason.
It is not the GP who decides mobility benefit, it is a difficult process.
Some conditions qualify, no questions asked sort of thing, as you would expect.
I have a mobility car but if you were to see me you would not say I was disabled, this can make life even harder. I work full time and I do not have a personal parking space, even at work.
I see a lot of abuse of the blue badge, mainly by parents of disabled children who will use this even without the child. They will use the car, without the child and unless they are doing direct business in regard to the child then they should not even use the car.
It is a big issue, so here endeth my 2d. :)
Mike...i dont disagree with mobility being given to those who need it but i can assure you this chap on my street does not warrant what he gets.he openly brags about what he gets.........my point is that it is abused by a lot of people....who assesses these people
An application is made to a government department. You apply for DLA, disabled living allowance, this looks at a range of entitlement to disability benefits, one of which is mobilty. There is a high and a low rate, only the high rate will get you a car.
The form is very long and complicated and designed to 'trick you' lmho like many forms, information is also gathered from GP and hospital consultants, to confirm diagnosis.
Like everything it is open to abuse, but my main point is that you can not always tell if a person is disabled from looking at them.
True....but he is family, and he aint disabled.. :y :y
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i believe disabled people can have a car or disability benifit but not both.but more importantly in a country as rich and highly taxed as this one,if my money is going to be spent for me then i am more than happy for it to be spent on genuinely disabled people.you do have a point though about people abusing the system and it makes me angry.it doesnt just take the p155 out of the taxpayer but also the genuinely disabled.i was told by a doctor that the criteria to qualify is that you must be unable to walk more than 300 metres and i personally know 2 people who recieve disability benifits who regularily walk miles
One of my neighbours is class as disabled, whilst he was driving his 17 ton lorry a few years ago he had to swerve to miss a cyclist, as he did he hit the kerb, the steering wheel spun and he broke his thumb...after many months of being assessed he was classed as being 14% disabled as he only had 90% use of his thumb.............he now has a mobility car, his own space and a badge to park where he likes............now you rather tell me where that is fair............rather system is bent. >:( >:( >:( >:(
Something not quite right there, a thumb would not affect mobility, unless there is some other uderlying reason.
It is not the GP who decides mobility benefit, it is a difficult process.
Some conditions qualify, no questions asked sort of thing, as you would expect.
I have a mobility car but if you were to see me you would not say I was disabled, this can make life even harder. I work full time and I do not have a personal parking space, even at work.
I see a lot of abuse of the blue badge, mainly by parents of disabled children who will use this even without the child. They will use the car, without the child and unless they are doing direct business in regard to the child then they should not even use the car.
It is a big issue, so here endeth my 2d. :)
Mike...i dont disagree with mobility being given to those who need it but i can assure you this chap on my street does not warrant what he gets.he openly brags about what he gets.........my point is that it is abused by a lot of people....who assesses these people
An application is made to a government department. You apply for DLA, disabled living allowance, this looks at a range of entitlement to disability benefits, one of which is mobilty. There is a high and a low rate, only the high rate will get you a car.
The form is very long and complicated and designed to 'trick you' lmho like many forms, information is also gathered from GP and hospital consultants, to confirm diagnosis.
Like everything it is open to abuse, but my main point is that you can not always tell if a person is disabled from looking at them.
True....but he is family, and he aint disabled.. :y :y
Not arguing that one, you know him and if that is all that is wrong then it is shocking, and like many benefits it is such abuse that gives many others the same 'bad name' :)
Incapacity benefit..... well that is another story.........
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mike,do you know what the procedure /criteria is for the blue badge ?
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mike,do you know what the procedure /criteria is for the blue badge ?
There are 2 ways, do you recieve high rate mobility allowance?
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no i dont recieve any allowances.
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no i dont recieve any allowances.
Have you a disability, does GP agree you have a mobility problem?
If yes I suggest you apply for DLA, you may or may not get it, many people do not first time. If you have a more recognied disability then get a professional to help you, eg Big 'C' speak with McMillan Nurse who will point you in the right direction.
If you get mobility, it is dead easy need form from local council 2 photo's and £2.00
If not same form just lots more to fill in and they will check with medical people involved, minimum the GP.
If you want to mention anything that you do not want to put on here PM me, to be honest would rather talk on phone, not tonight so PM me for phone number, if you want. :) :) :)
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i have a fairly knackered right leg (mispent youth) and have been told by orthopaedic consultant to use it as little as poss. because i will need knee replacement (amongst other things )but he would rather wait 10 years or so if poss.(im 48).i have to change my job and it would also help if i could park close to shops etc; its not a huge deal tbh compared to many other people,it would just help to an extent.
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i have a fairly knackered right leg (mispent youth) and have been told by orthopaedic consultant to use it as little as poss. because i will need knee replacement (amongst other things )but he would rather wait 10 years or so if poss.(im 48).i have to change my job and it would also help if i could park close to shops etc; its not a huge deal tbh compared to many other people,it would just help to an extent.
Talk to your GP and tell him you are going to apply and ask his opinion, if he/she suggests that they wold give a positive report then apply, it costs nothing so what have you got to loose.
Sounds like a genuine case imho.
Good Luck :)
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cheers mike :y.....not sure if i will or not yet but who would i apply to ?
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cheers mike :y.....not sure if i will or not yet but who would i apply to ?
Contact you local council, they will direct you. Where I live it is Social Services, where I work it is Car Parking (right buggers) :) :) :)
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thanks :y
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thanks :y
:y :y :y
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Neighbour has a disability funded car, his is a gun injury.
Just say forces and NI
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Anyway!! ;)
re the LPG conversion idea. Even with my low mileage of about 7k a year I reckon it will pay for itself in a couple of years. if there is sufficient interest from this forum I wonder if a bulk deal could be done with a supplier of the kit etc for members here.
This is a good idea, I am defiantly thinking about LPG now but it won't be till next year, got too much stuff to pay for already this year.
I don't know much about LPG apart from its quite expensive, i'm sure there are already threads discussing it on here, but I think it would be a fantastic idea to get some people together that are all looking to get a conversion! :) And I'm sure we will all benefit from the great advice from members who have already taken the plunge!
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At the risk of being controversial; I think road fund tax should be abolished all together. Put the tax on the fuel, so those who use the roads the most, and consequentially burn more fossil fuel, pay accordingly pro rata . Simple!! :o
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as well as free car tax i get a free wheel chair and stair lift . As far as i know motability is a charity .when i lease a motability car i take in to account the following, deposit ,how much for an auto box , how much of my DLA I will have to pay and then what the cars mpg is ( fixed income remember) Icould go on but i just cant be arsed ,i know i cant
change the mind of narrow minded people so i wont try . my computer is playing up so if i dont reply you know why .
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At the risk of being controversial; I think road fund tax should be abolished all together. Put the tax on the fuel, so those who use the roads the most, and consequentially burn more fossil fuel, pay accordingly pro rata . Simple!! :o
I agree. Fuel prces grab headlines, though, and if the government had put their 2p on this time, let alone any more they would have been lambasted. So, instead they pledge not to do that and increase road tax in the cowardly way they did, averting the headlines by staging the increase over a couple of years.
When this government hands you something on a plate it's a sure sign you need to brace yourself for a kick in the gonads. >:(
Kevin
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At the risk of being controversial; I think road fund tax should be abolished all together. Put the tax on the fuel, so those who use the roads the most, and consequentially burn more fossil fuel, pay accordingly pro rata . Simple!! :o
There not likely to do that as it would impact the economy far more and drive the cost of living up due to the knock on costs to general goods following increased delivery costs.
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Vehicle Excised Duty is already in effect an ownership tax. The fact that you now have to NOT tax (SORN) your car when it's not on the road points to an ownership tax to me. I know someone who was fined for not re-SORNing his 'historic' car in time. The car wasn't even roadworthy, the cost of the VED was zero, it's not like he was trying to avoid paying some thing.
How much tax would we all like on our fuel at the pump. We already have some of the highest taxed fuel in the world without adding more tax to it. They'd only keep the 'road tax' aswell but call it something else, eg owner admin charge.
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The awkward truth is that this country's infrastructure is not geared up for any other kind of transport. For decades areas of housing have been established miles from any amenities and workplaces, with not a penny invested in public transport infrastructurel eaving the car as the only transport option for most basic needs such as getting the kids to school or getting to work.
Even if there were the will to change that tomorrow, it will take a generation for any change (in planning policy, for example) to make a significant impact. The fact is there is no direction from government at all that hints at a long term plan. They are simply happy for an excuse for extra taxation and that's as far as their thought processes have gone.
No matter how unaffordable the government makes driving there will be no increased take-up of public transport except in city centres, and I expect the (privatised) public transport companies will actually see this as an opportunity to hike their prices to maintain the current differential between driving and public transport.
Kevin
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At the risk of being controversial; I think road fund tax should be abolished all together. Put the tax on the fuel, so those who use the roads the most, and consequentially burn more fossil fuel, pay accordingly pro rata . Simple!! :o
Absolutely spot on. No complicated costly collection schemes, do away with a few thousand pen pushers, display an MOT and insurance sticker instead. No need for millions to be spent on cameras and tracking systems. Bit of a rebate for the haulage industry. Far too sensible for this lot. They won't even tax foreign wagons as they say it is too costly but they can track and issue bills to 33 million motorists - unbelievable. Foreign lorries should display an annual permit, in Switzerland its called a Vinette ( could be spelt wrong )which is available at point of entry and at most filling stations. You don't have to buy one immediately but you can't leave the country without paying - dead simple. This would go some way to giving UK haulage firms a level playing field. Unfortunately that would help UK businesses so there will be no chance of that.