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Title: Tool recommendations
Post by: SMD on 12 April 2012, 06:52:45
Hi

I need a low range torque wrench and a quick search shows the Sealey STW101 or SWT1011. Not sure which would be a better buy out of the two.

Secondly I need a oil filter wrench. There are many different types so which one would work best on overtightened filter caps?  ::)

Thanks
Title: Re: Tool recommendations
Post by: aaronjb on 12 April 2012, 09:19:18
If you're only buying one, get the STW1011 IMHO; it's 3/8" drive which is easily reduced to 1/4" if you need and it covers the wider range of torque settings.

However if you have another wrench that overlaps the upper end of the STW1011's range, then I'd go for the STW101 - as it goes as low as 5Nm (rather than 7Nm) it'll be slightly more accurate at the bottom of it's scale.. e.g. cam cover bolts at 8Nm, which are right on the edge of the 1011's range.

For oil filter caps - if you mean the paper-element style Omega cap then you don't need any special filter wrench, just a large spanner to get it started (and then I use a smaller ratchet inside the 3/8" drive hole to spin it the rest of the way off). If you want to do other cars that use a canister filter where the whole can comes off, then this one works great; http://www.justoffbase.co.uk/Oil-Filter-Claw-Wrench-43-102mm-Sealey-MS004
Title: Re: Tool recommendations
Post by: Kevin Wood on 12 April 2012, 09:32:03
I picked up a Sealey one from andyc - one of his "Friday Specials". Goes down to 4Nm from memory but could be the 5Nm one. Might be worth PM'ing andy and seeing if there are any offers on it currently.

Kevin
Title: Re: Tool recommendations
Post by: Webby the Bear on 12 April 2012, 09:47:34
SMD does have the paper filter like mine. However, i think the reason he's looking for the wrench is cos his housing has been overtightened and he can't get it undone. so is it correct that he'd put the wrench over the filter, hold in place and then unscrew the lid?

 :y
Title: Re: Tool recommendations
Post by: Kevin Wood on 12 April 2012, 09:50:32
SMD does have the paper filter like mine. However, i think the reason he's looking for the wrench is cos his housing has been overtightened and he can't get it undone. so is it correct that he'd put the wrench over the filter, hold in place and then unscrew the lid?

 :y

Yes, but he wouldn't be using the low range torque wrench for that (he's asking for 2 different wrenches I think). A standard oil filter chain wrench or similar would probably do the job.
Title: Re: Tool recommendations
Post by: Webby the Bear on 12 April 2012, 09:57:16
SMD does have the paper filter like mine. However, i think the reason he's looking for the wrench is cos his housing has been overtightened and he can't get it undone. so is it correct that he'd put the wrench over the filter, hold in place and then unscrew the lid?

 :y

Yes, but he wouldn't be using the low range torque wrench for that (he's asking for 2 different wrenches I think). A standard oil filter chain wrench or similar would probably do the job.
:y
Title: Re: Tool recommendations
Post by: Dr_X on 12 April 2012, 10:27:37
SMD does have the paper filter like mine. However, i think the reason he's looking for the wrench is cos his housing has been overtightened and he can't get it undone. so is it correct that he'd put the wrench over the filter, hold in place and then unscrew the lid?

 :y

You dont need to hold the body of the filter as it has a casting on the engine end to stop it turning.....it might turn a bit before it locks up though.
Title: Re: Tool recommendations
Post by: Webby the Bear on 12 April 2012, 10:37:59
SMD does have the paper filter like mine. However, i think the reason he's looking for the wrench is cos his housing has been overtightened and he can't get it undone. so is it correct that he'd put the wrench over the filter, hold in place and then unscrew the lid?

 :y

You dont need to hold the body of the filter as it has a casting on the engine end to stop it turning.....it might turn a bit before it locks up though.

Yeah but by the sounds of it his filter is spinning as one therefore needs something to hold
Title: Re: Tool recommendations
Post by: Webby the Bear on 12 April 2012, 10:42:25
ps i'm just guessing as hacvent actually seen it :)
Title: Re: Tool recommendations
Post by: SMD on 12 April 2012, 10:55:19
Thanks for the replies.

I want a oil filter wrench for the omega but if I can use it other cars then great. I need something that will allow me to grip the body of the filter so I can undo the cap.

Mr. Wood, how much was the wrench you got off andy if you don't mind me asking?
Title: Re: Tool recommendations
Post by: TheBoy on 12 April 2012, 18:14:16
Oil Filter - might be worth removing housing, and refitting correctly, else it may leak.
Title: Re: Tool recommendations
Post by: SMD on 12 April 2012, 18:41:46
How is that done then, just keep turning the housing until it comes off? (seriously) How is it held on?
Title: Re: Tool recommendations
Post by: TheBoy on 12 April 2012, 18:43:15
How is that done then, just keep turning the housing until it comes off? (seriously) How is it held on?
A bolt through middle - some are allen, some are hex IIRC
Title: Re: Tool recommendations
Post by: SMD on 12 April 2012, 18:49:27
But to do that, dont I need to undo the cap first? Or if I keep turning the housing it will eventually come off?
Title: Re: Tool recommendations
Post by: dbug on 12 April 2012, 18:51:53
If you're only buying one, get the STW1011 IMHO; it's 3/8" drive which is easily reduced to 1/4" if you need and it covers the wider range of torque settings.

However if you have another wrench that overlaps the upper end of the STW1011's range, then I'd go for the STW101 - as it goes as low as 5Nm (rather than 7Nm) it'll be slightly more accurate at the bottom of it's scale.. e.g. cam cover bolts at 8Nm, which are right on the edge of the 1011's range.

For oil filter caps - if you mean the paper-element style Omega cap then you don't need any special filter wrench, just a large spanner to get it started (and then I use a smaller ratchet inside the 3/8" drive hole to spin it the rest of the way off). If you want to do other cars that use a canister filter where the whole can comes off, then this one works great; http://www.justoffbase.co.uk/Oil-Filter-Claw-Wrench-43-102mm-Sealey-MS004

Why not go for the Sealey STW1012 3/8"Sq Drive Torque Wrench 2-24Nm/1.47-17.70lb.ft (around same price as STW101)  ;)

Get one here (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sealey-Torque-Wrench-Micrometer-Style-3-8-sq-Drive-2-24nm-1-47-17-70lb-ft-STW101-/270924782830?pt=UK_Crafts_Sewing_Supplies_MJ&hash=item3f14601cee)
Title: Re: Tool recommendations
Post by: SMD on 12 April 2012, 19:10:02
Thanks dbug. I was thinking of buying two so if I was to get STW1012, and get this one:http://www.screwfix.com/p/reversible-torque-wrench/18289

Would this cover most jobs on Omegas? (not that I know how to do the jobs  ;D )
Title: Re: Tool recommendations
Post by: TheBoy on 12 April 2012, 19:12:25
Tunnie is a tool, and can only do things up to 8Nm, the weakling. Is he an option ;D
Title: Re: Tool recommendations
Post by: dbug on 12 April 2012, 19:13:12
Thanks dbug. I was thinking of buying two so if I was to get STW1012, and get this one:http://www.screwfix.com/p/reversible-torque-wrench/18289

Would this cover most jobs on Omegas? (not that I know how to do the jobs  ;D )

Would have thought so mate (apart from hub nuts  8) 8) 8) - use a lorry torque wrench or a long scaffold pole  ::))
Title: Re: Tool recommendations
Post by: dbug on 12 April 2012, 19:13:52
Tunnie is a tool, and can only do things up to 8Nm, the weakling. Is he an option ;D

Guess he would be if he's less than £30  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Tool recommendations
Post by: TheBoy on 12 April 2012, 19:17:59
Tunnie is a tool, and can only do things up to 8Nm, the weakling. Is he an option ;D

Guess he would be if he's less than £30  ;) ;)
2 pints and a pack of salt & vinegar, should be under £30
Title: Re: Tool recommendations
Post by: aaronjb on 12 April 2012, 19:40:43
But to do that, dont I need to undo the cap first? Or if I keep turning the housing it will eventually come off?

Yep you need to get the cap off first - the housing is just going round and round sandwiched between the block and the (probably immobile) centre bolt. So in that case, I'd say try an oil filter tool like this: http://www.justoffbase.co.uk/Strap-Wrench-150mm-Sealey-AK6407 (as long as it'll fit through all the crap in the way like the steering arm :-/ )


As for the torque wrenches - good spot by dbug there.. and the bigger wrench will do you fine, it's a no-name but as long as it has a calibration cert it's probably as good as the next one, so to speak. (Speaking of torque wrenches - if you've not had one before, two things to remember: 1) always 'unwind' it to 0 after use and 2) don't drop it/use it as a hammer etc, they're sensitive things)