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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: TheBoy on 12 April 2012, 18:05:31
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Decisions decisions.
Do I take TBE, and thus be forced to use the ferry, and possibly need a roofbox (thus expensive ferry). Its my car, I know it, and am happy with it. Built in Satnav will be good around the towns and cities. I know it can crunch miles :)
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Do I take an Insignia. Can use the ferry or tunnel, no roofboxes etc required, so both quite reasonable. Satnav will have to be via shitty portable devices, always good to get blood pressure high. Not done a really long stint in Insignia. Will be cheaper on fuel, and means 2k+ miles won't be going on mine.
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Silver Bullet. Same problems and advantages as TBE. Trouble is, its 14yrs old, not sure if I'll get euro breakdown cover.
Decisions, decisions. That I need to resolve quickly, to get the channel crossing sorted.
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Euro cover takes a hit after vehicle goes older than 10 years but not sure by how much,weazel Insignia should be quite cheap to run over there as I think there Derv is cheaper than ours
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Why would anyone in their right mind ever want to go to France ? :-\ :)
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Why would anyone in their right mind ever want to go to France ? :-\ :)
God knows,I'm off out there in July :D ;)
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Insignia seats are quite hard, even I noticed that, and I'm not one to get back ache in a car normally. Although they're good on fuel, so keeping the fuel cost in mind I'd take that.
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Why would anyone in their right mind ever want to go to France ? :-\ :)
Beer, friends, beer, food, beer. And beer.
Its quite nice 'down south'.
Oh, and beer.
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Insignia cheaper on go juice - therefore more money for beer - it must be a done deed :)
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I found the Insignia seats rock hard, I suspect I would have had enough by time reach the tunnel, I'd vote TBE
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Nice to be spoilt for choice ;)
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You'd probably be looking at about £120-£150 for a couple of weeks breakdown cover, as henryd says - they whack it on for cars over 10 yrs old.
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Nice to be spoilt for choice ;)
No Rover on the list :'(
LPG cars mean I *have* to use expensive ferry :(
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Silver Bullet :y
My car is 10 years old, costs me £5 a month for my euro cover, with my insurance policy.. :y
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Insignia, unless the jets are sorted on TBnE? :)
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Insignia, unless the jets are sorted on TBnE? :)
LPG jets? Still waiting ;)
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Insignia, unless the jets are sorted on TBnE? :)
LPG jets? Still waiting ;)
insignia then. Someone else's car. Not that I'm interested in what you think of it, not at all. :-X
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no issue - Insignia every time given age of Omegas - what is position on insurance cover?
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Although you could see if tmc works in unruley France. :)
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I wouldn't ever use the channel tunnel again, if that helps your decision? ::)
Insignia? That dodgy after shave your aunt keeps buying you for Christmas? Might mask the smell of the LPG when you pass the sniffer dogs, I suppose... ;D
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no issue - Insignia every time given age of Omegas - what is position on insurance cover?
Everyone is covered for euro, but need to confirm if I need my own greencard...
I believe I just need to fuel it, and sort out euro breakdown (AA for UK portion)
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no issue - Insignia every time given age of Omegas - what is position on insurance cover?
Disagree, uncomfortable compared to Omega...
You'll arrive much more relaxed in in Silver Bullet.. :y
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I wouldn't ever use the channel tunnel again, if that helps your decision? ::)
Insignia? That dodgy after shave your aunt keeps buying you for Christmas? Might mask the smell of the LPG when you pass the sniffer dogs, I suppose... ;D
I prefer the chunnel. At worse, you lose about 75mins (assuming no breakdowns), ferries (to dunkirk, for price) are probably a loss of 3.5hrs...
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I wouldn't ever use the channel tunnel again, if that helps your decision? ::)
Insignia? That dodgy after shave your aunt keeps buying you for Christmas? Might mask the smell of the LPG when you pass the sniffer dogs, I suppose... ;D
I prefer the chunnel. At worse, you lose about 75mins (assuming no breakdowns), ferries (to dunkirk, for price) are probably a loss of 3.5hrs...
.. or the overhead wires fall off, and you lose a whole weekend, then the 'stards have the audacity to refuse your return ticket when it does actually open, and you have to pay a second time.
Boats. Plenty of redundancy. One sinks, bad luck, but you just get on the next one. :y
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Boats. Plenty of redundancy. One sinks, bad luck, but you just get on the next one. :y
As long as you weren't on the one that sank.. ;D
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Boats. Plenty of redundancy. One sinks, bad luck, but you just get on the next one. :y
As long as you weren't on the one that sank.. ;D
True. But I can swim, at least. I haven't pitted myself against a tunnel with 25kV cables thrashing around, along with fires, etc. but I suspect the outcome wouldn't be that positive. ;)
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Valid points ;) Not that I'd want to try and swim to Calais or Dover.. I suppose I could float, though ;D
I wonder how much longer there will be (many) ferries running for, as an aside.. unpopular routes are already disappearing (Newcastle->Norway is already gone, for example) as air travel becomes more and more popular.
Not that air travel is any good for those of us who want to take cars..
I'm sure Dover->Calais will survive for a good long while though, but the less popular routes?
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SeaFrance are no longer trading!
http://www.seafrance.com/SiteCrises_en.html
We saw a load of their boats tied up doing nothing at Calais...
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I took my MFL to France four times, and loved it! Granted I didn't have the same choice of vehicles ......
I bought a separate Euro cover for the month that I was away, think it cost around £50, but that was 2007 (the last time I went :'( ) at which point the Omega was nine years old.
Roofbox shouldn't cause an issue either way. It didn't in my case and I used both means of transport. The chunnel had just enough clearance! There were no extra costs involved either as the total height was still within the limit.
Just my thoughts, and I appreciate my last experience was a few years ago :-\
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SeaFrance are no longer trading!
http://www.seafrance.com/SiteCrises_en.html
We saw a load of their boats tied up doing nothing at Calais...
Sad! We used them twice, as it was included in the 'package', then the chunnel, and P&O.
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Yeah, ferries are struggling. I much prefer ferries, though. I tend to take either the fast cat from Portsmouth or the overnight slow boat. 40 minute drive to the port, load up, hit the bar for a couple of beers and some dinner, crash out for the night, wake up in France, off to Normandy coastal village of choice for some coffee and pain au chocolat for breakfast before hitting the road.
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from an earlier response, i gather you're heading a fair ways down south.
Omega every time..... probably TBE . based on age only.
i've driven a hire insignia, no way on gods green earth would i contemplate taking that uncomfortable POS 1000 miles each way. not for me the driver, or for the passengers....
an omega on the other hand.... especially an elite... no problem, would happily do it weekly.
the visit is going to be no fun if you're laid out flat with your back after driving an insignia. if you were totally fit and not having had recent trauma, then MAYBE... but even then, I'd choose the omega....
these days when i work down south, (have clients in Montpelier, and St Remy ) i fly.... but if i was taking a load of kit again, the Mv6 would be much higher up on my choices list than any Insignia.
the usual " make sure you have all the required kit in the car, like Hi-Vis waistcoats and the like..... " applies.... i've got several if you've forgotten to get one.
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We always stayed near a town called Aigues Mortes, which in turn is near Montpellier :y
Great drive down, especially on the autoroutes ::) with the only awkward spot being the drive through Lyon, which didn't seem to have a bypass :-X
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Yeah, ferries are struggling. I much prefer ferries, though. I tend to take either the fast cat from Portsmouth or the overnight slow boat. 40 minute drive to the port, load up, hit the bar for a couple of beers and some dinner, crash out for the night, wake up in France, off to Normandy coastal village of choice for some coffee and pain au chocolat for breakfast before hitting the road.
I do like the slow ferries - as you say, nice and relaxing (as long as you're a good sailor!).. Hm, you have me thinking now.. this could make a nice trip: http://g.co/maps/5v8vf
Anyhoo, back to TBs dilemma.. :-[
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no issue - Insignia every time given age of Omegas - what is position on insurance cover?
I'd have no worries about jumping in my 176000 mile 1999 T reg Elite now & driving to French France. I ignored European breakdown cover, Red Pennant wanted £200 for a fortnight's cover ............. stuff that! ::) ::) ::)
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We always stayed near a town called Aigues Mortes, which in turn is near Montpellier :y
Great drive down, especially on the autoroutes ::) with the only awkward spot being the drive through Lyon, which didn't seem to have a bypass :-X
I've stayed at Yelloh Village there, lovely old town, shame the surroundings are a bit naff.
Lyon now bypassed, but a long way round.
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no issue - Insignia every time given age of Omegas - what is position on insurance cover?
I'd have no worries about jumping in my 176000 mile 1999 T reg Elite now & driving to French France. I ignored European breakdown cover, Red Pennant wanted £200 for a fortnight's cover ............. stuff that! ::) ::) ::)
I was going to say "But how much would it cost to recover the car back to the UK?" but .. I guess Omegas are so cheap you could just dump it there, fly back and buy a new one ;) ;D
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We always stayed near a town called Aigues Mortes, which in turn is near Montpellier :y
Great drive down, especially on the autoroutes ::) with the only awkward spot being the drive through Lyon, which didn't seem to have a bypass :-X
I've stayed at Yelloh Village there, lovely old town, shame the surroundings are a bit naff.
Lyon now bypassed, but a long way round.
La Petite Camargue? Me too :y
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no issue - Insignia every time given age of Omegas - what is position on insurance cover?
I'd have no worries about jumping in my 176000 mile 1999 T reg Elite now & driving to French France. I ignored European breakdown cover, Red Pennant wanted £200 for a fortnight's cover ............. stuff that! ::) ::) ::)
I was going to say "But how much would it cost to recover the car back to the UK?" but .. I guess Omegas are so cheap you could just dump it there, fly back and buy a new one ;) ;D
I speak as someone who has had to have an Omega repatriated ;D
The breakdown people asked if we would like an extended holiday at their expense, so they could fix ;D
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no issue - Insignia every time given age of Omegas - what is position on insurance cover?
I'd have no worries about jumping in my 176000 mile 1999 T reg Elite now & driving to French France. I ignored European breakdown cover, Red Pennant wanted £200 for a fortnight's cover ............. stuff that! ::) ::) ::)
Don't blame you :o
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We always stayed near a town called Aigues Mortes, which in turn is near Montpellier :y
Great drive down, especially on the autoroutes ::) with the only awkward spot being the drive through Lyon, which didn't seem to have a bypass :-X
I've stayed at Yelloh Village there, lovely old town, shame the surroundings are a bit naff.
Lyon now bypassed, but a long way round.
La Petite Camargue? Me too :y
Yeah, thats the one. Was there in 2004. That was an uneventful holiday, except sleeping in the car on the way back, as we couldn't find the hotel ;D
Stayed at other French Life camping places, in their 'cottages' (mobile homes basically)
2005, we stayed at Valont Pont d'Arc, that year the MV6 only made it back as far as Dijon under its own steam. That was quite eventful (almost on a daily basis), including hitting a huge Raven at about 200kph, trying to make the Seacat. Fortunately, that was the hire car we'd got a Dijon, and was marked as damage to every panel. I pity the poor sod who had to clean all the entrails off that, bloody and guts everywhere.
2006, Frejus, but flew, given our car journeys back from France were getting too eventful. I noticed a woman pilot as we boarded on way back, and commented on it. The plane broke, so couldn't land at Luton, so diverted to Standstead. Quite surreal, coming in fast and low, including banking heavily, and seeing all the emergency vehicles just starting to move at the start of the runway as we passed, so they could follow us down.
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No contest... One of the Omega's (probably TBE as it will still qualify for cheaper breakdown cover) as you will suffer in an Insignia in your current crippleness ;) ;)
I may be able to get hold of some nozzles from elsewhere if it is that urgent (although I'm ringing himself tomorrow and will chase) ;)
As for ferries... Norfolk Line is not ridiculously expensive and a much better option that that big Rat Hole ;)
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no issue - Insignia every time given age of Omegas - what is position on insurance cover?
I'd have no worries about jumping in my 176000 mile 1999 T reg Elite now & driving to French France. I ignored European breakdown cover, Red Pennant wanted £200 for a fortnight's cover ............. stuff that! ::) ::) ::)
I was going to say "But how much would it cost to recover the car back to the UK?" but .. I guess Omegas are so cheap you could just dump it there, fly back and buy a new one ;) ;D
Like it...... :D :D :D :y
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I wouldn't ever use the channel tunnel again, if that helps your decision? ::)
Insignia? That dodgy after shave your aunt keeps buying you for Christmas? Might mask the smell of the LPG when you pass the sniffer dogs, I suppose... ;D
I prefer the chunnel. At worse, you lose about 75mins (assuming no breakdowns), ferries (to dunkirk, for price) are probably a loss of 3.5hrs...
Then go Dover/Calais. I've never spent more than 75mins on the boat, and that was blowing a gale that didn't clear until we got to Paris. Add in the time to have breakfast, and you've gained time, not lost it. Loading the trains take the same time as a boat. The Chunnel isn't much of a time saving, and we find that it's more expensive. That's doing at least 3 crossings a year for the last 21 years. We're also looking at a 430mile trip once we land. This exactly the reason why I have a car like an Omega, slow underpowered cars are truly tedious in such situations.
Driving to Dunkirk from Calais takes about 30mins.
As for which car to take, ask yourself this; if your car isn't up to 2000 miles in a fortnight, then either fix it or drive it down the frag and get one that can! Any Omega is now old enough that a few thousand miles makes no difference to its value.
Twenty years ago I bought a £25 1.6Capri with a blown engine(and a full tank of fuel hence the £25), fitted a secondhand engine, and 3 days later headed for a 2000 mile trip.
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I can always loan you something from the toy box? ::)
TBE for me, my Elite has been to France fairly recently and was a good performer.
I don't think I could manage an extended journey in an Insignia.
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also, if you're going way down south, consider one of the longer ferry crossings..... make a mini cruise of it with the mrs.
say down to Bilbao, then back up across the Pyrenees ??
it's stunning...... ..... no it's not quicker.... but it's a LOT nicer.
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I would take TBE and get the Portsmouth Caen ferry. I've been over to France quite a few times and I always drive through the night to Portsmouth to get the 8am ferry then once boarded leg it to reception where you can pick up a cabin nice and cheap. Its about 6 hours sailing so you can get your head down have a nice shower and be refreshed for your long drive in France :y
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If u take tbe or silver bullet make sure u take a spare knock sensor.. ;D
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If u take tbe or silver bullet make sure u take a spare knock crank sensor.. ;D
Fixed that for you Karl ;)
TB, as you know, I tend to do all the driving when we go away so it's ferry every time for me. I normally go Dover-Dunkirk with Norfolk Line (£29 each way at the moment) and treat it as a good rest from driving ;) I'm fairly certain you'll find the Insignia a killer on the back, especially at the moment, so would advise an Omega with nice heated seats ;)
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I've just come up with a cracking idea. You pay for me (I don't eat or drink that much ::)) and i'll chauffeur you and Mrs TB so you can relax and have a few drinks :D
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Take whichever one you trust the most.
When I went last year, I wanted to take my cav turbo again. We took the mig.
...the mig broke, the repair got f#ucked up, whole holiday cost millions. By the time the dodgy French mechanic had crashed it backwards.
South o France is a lovely lovely place.
There's only two things out in the midday sun; mad dogs and englishman! ;D
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on this subject, Im doing 1600 miles approximately coming the other way this sunday,
up to Cambrills in northen spain to collect a rather special monza bonnet, the across france to calais, then oxford, whats the score on this throwaway breathalyser thing you have to carry now?
where do you buy them? how much are they? is it law yet? bloody french rules !! why can they just be the same as everyone else!! :-\
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..... whats the score on this throwaway breathalyser thing you have to carry now?
where do you buy them? how much are they? is it law yet? bloody french rules !! why can they just be the same as everyone else!! :-\
Effective from 1st July this year. Can't see the French taking any notice though, just a good excuse for the Gendarmes to fine British tourists. ???
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..... whats the score on this throwaway breathalyser thing you have to carry now?
where do you buy them? how much are they? is it law yet? bloody french rules !! why can they just be the same as everyone else!! :-\
Effective from 1st July this year. Can't see the French taking any notice though, just a good excuse for the Gendarmes to fine British tourists. ???
you star Andy!! so i aint got to find them then!! going to try and get through france overnight rather than through the day!! see less of it that way! must remember to take Cd,s as french radio stations are crap!! they only play french music and its bloody awful!! :'(
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you star Andy!! so i aint got to find them then!! going to try and get through france overnight rather than through the day!! see less of it that way! must remember to take Cd,s as french radio stations are crap!! they only play french music and its bloody awful!! :'(
Can't imagine why! ;D ;D ;D
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you star Andy!! so i aint got to find them then!! going to try and get through france overnight rather than through the day!! see less of it that way! must remember to take Cd,s as french radio stations are crap!! they only play french music and its bloody awful!! :'(
Can't imagine why! ;D ;D ;D
Neither can I. Most French people I've met think their music is crap too. ;D
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Ooh be careful, thats at least 3 of us in agreement!
that dont usually happen on this forum!! ;D
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Its Dover-Calais/Dunkrik-ish, not doing longer boat journey. Thats not open for discussion.
Every Ferry I've used has always lost 2.5hrs (Dover-Calais), by the time loading/unloading down. Even the Seacat, when running that route, was best part of 2hrs. Train, never more than a little over an hour.
So, given the choice, I'd use the tunnel every time if simialr price (£20 per car difference due to our complexities with people, not including if I need to take roofbox (as car will be over 1.8m).
No LPG in tunnel though.
On subject of LPG, because I'm in convoy with a mate, what is LPG like finding in France (away from toll roads), as don't want to be messing around looking for gas, and certainly do not want to run an Omega on petrol ;D
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cant tell you about lpg off toll roads it is on the toll roads though,
but as a clue? diesel in france yesterday was 1 euro48 a litre on the toll roads!!
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I still enjoy a leisurely meal on the ferry after a 2.5 hour drive, and I agree that Insignia seats are b@*&$dy hard and uncomfortable. I expect to be taking the Elite down this year, and will just suck up the euro cover, because I like comfort at my age. For weekends I use the tunnel, longer trips I prefer the ferry. ::) ::) ::)
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Off to SOF again myself in July would only do it in the mig. This is 50% of why I have one as we go almost every year
LPG in france I have found this http://stations.gpl.online.fr/appli/index.php (http://stations.gpl.online.fr/appli/index.php) in the past but now have a POI on my TT
Dover / dunkirk as usual, good rest after 5-6 hr trip down. Only £56 return this year (£44 last year)
Will be looking out for OOF stickers and fellow migs as usual
ps Rochdale must the omega capital of the NW seen four different ones today on my trips around. Was that any of you ?
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I take my 2002 3.2 over to France 6 times a year, never missed a beat. I pay about £80 extra per year on top of my breakdown cover with Britannia, never used it yet on the continent (touch wood). :y
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By the way - got one of the telepeage (liber-t) auto payment gadgets a couple of years ago. really saves time, no queing and bothering passenger to pay and get tickets
Got it from here http://www.aprr.fr/fr/souscrire_telepeage_liber_t/les-avantages (http://www.aprr.fr/fr/souscrire_telepeage_liber_t/les-avantages) (need to translate or practice your french) which was the only ones who will supply to UK. You can apply online, pay 10 euro's for gadget no additional costs. Charges your credit card for only the month you use and the toll. I love it and so do'es Swmbo as I don't have to wake her.
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By the way - got one of the telepeage (liber-t) auto payment gadgets a couple of years ago. really saves time, no queing and bothering passenger to pay and get tickets
Got it from here http://www.aprr.fr/fr/souscrire_telepeage_liber_t/les-avantages (http://www.aprr.fr/fr/souscrire_telepeage_liber_t/les-avantages) (need to translate or practice your french) which was the only ones who will supply to UK. You can apply online, pay 10 euro's for gadget no additional costs. Charges your credit card for only the month you use and the toll. I love it and so do'es Swmbo as I don't have to wake her.
This time, we're planning on avoiding tolls, as we always miss so much. So me and a mate are taking an easy trip down, over 2 or 3 days, just the 2 of us (for various reasons, the girls are flying, along with the other members of the party, but will be with us on way home).
Mate is taking his Morgan, so this occasion won't be the 'blat it all in a day' type trips I've done before, something the Omega excels at. Probably a couple of 2hr stinks a day. My mate is a diabetic, so I have to ensure he takes something with sugar in quite regularly.
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By the way - got one of the telepeage (liber-t) auto payment gadgets a couple of years ago. really saves time, no queing and bothering passenger to pay and get tickets
Got it from here http://www.aprr.fr/fr/souscrire_telepeage_liber_t/les-avantages (http://www.aprr.fr/fr/souscrire_telepeage_liber_t/les-avantages) (need to translate or practice your french) which was the only ones who will supply to UK. You can apply online, pay 10 euro's for gadget no additional costs. Charges your credit card for only the month you use and the toll. I love it and so do'es Swmbo as I don't have to wake her.
This time, we're planning on avoiding tolls, as we always miss so much. So me and a mate are taking an easy trip down, over 2 or 3 days, just the 2 of us (for various reasons, the girls are flying, along with the other members of the party, but will be with us on way home).
Mate is taking his Morgan, so this occasion won't be the 'blat it all in a day' type trips I've done before, something the Omega excels at. Probably a couple of 2hr stinks a day. My mate is a diabetic, so I have to ensure he takes something with sugar in quite regularly.
Well, you certainly don't want to be trying to keep up with that in an insignia on the B roads. ;D
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By the way - got one of the telepeage (liber-t) auto payment gadgets a couple of years ago. really saves time, no queing and bothering passenger to pay and get tickets
Got it from here http://www.aprr.fr/fr/souscrire_telepeage_liber_t/les-avantages (http://www.aprr.fr/fr/souscrire_telepeage_liber_t/les-avantages) (need to translate or practice your french) which was the only ones who will supply to UK. You can apply online, pay 10 euro's for gadget no additional costs. Charges your credit card for only the month you use and the toll. I love it and so do'es Swmbo as I don't have to wake her.
This time, we're planning on avoiding tolls, as we always miss so much. So me and a mate are taking an easy trip down, over 2 or 3 days, just the 2 of us (for various reasons, the girls are flying, along with the other members of the party, but will be with us on way home).
Mate is taking his Morgan, so this occasion won't be the 'blat it all in a day' type trips I've done before, something the Omega excels at. Probably a couple of 2hr stinks a day. My mate is a diabetic, so I have to ensure he takes something with sugar in quite regularly.
Well, you certainly don't want to be trying to keep up with that in an insignia on the B roads. ;D
Indeed, despite all the cut-up old dining room tables that Morgan use to make cars, his 240bhp in under a tonne will leave the Omega for dead, let alone an Insignia. Not really going to be able to make it up in the bends either ;D
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By the way - got one of the telepeage (liber-t) auto payment gadgets a couple of years ago. really saves time, no queing and bothering passenger to pay and get tickets
Got it from here http://www.aprr.fr/fr/souscrire_telepeage_liber_t/les-avantages (http://www.aprr.fr/fr/souscrire_telepeage_liber_t/les-avantages) (need to translate or practice your french) which was the only ones who will supply to UK. You can apply online, pay 10 euro's for gadget no additional costs. Charges your credit card for only the month you use and the toll. I love it and so do'es Swmbo as I don't have to wake her.
This time, we're planning on avoiding tolls, as we always miss so much. So me and a mate are taking an easy trip down, over 2 or 3 days, just the 2 of us (for various reasons, the girls are flying, along with the other members of the party, but will be with us on way home).
Mate is taking his Morgan, so this occasion won't be the 'blat it all in a day' type trips I've done before, something the Omega excels at. Probably a couple of 2hr stinks a day. My mate is a diabetic, so I have to ensure he takes something with sugar in quite regularly.
Well, you certainly don't want to be trying to keep up with that in an insignia on the B roads. ;D
Indeed, despite all the cut-up old dining room tables that Morgan use to make cars, his 240bhp in under a tonne will leave the Omega for dead, let alone an Insignia. Not really going to be able to make it up in the bends either ;D
The danger being if the Insignia doesn't like a bend it'll just pretend it's not there. :o
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Morris Marina! 8)
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Late to this one as we've been away..
LPG readily available from most hypermarkets in France
As long as you are back before the end of July I have roof bars and a 1/2 width roof box you are welcome to borrow if required.
Fuel costs of LPG will save you a fortune compared to an insignia ... let alone the comfort points .. :)
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Late to this one as we've been away..
LPG readily available from most hypermarkets in France
As long as you are back before the end of July I have roof bars and a 1/2 width roof box you are welcome to borrow if required.
Fuel costs of LPG will save you a fortune compared to an insignia ... let alone the comfort points .. :)
I have GM roofbars and a pikey box.
As to fuel costs, I'd expect around low 20s from TBE, maybe tad less, with roofbox. I'd expect easily 50+ from Insignia.
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Anyway, the decision was taken out of my hands earlier.
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Anyway, the decision was taken out of my hands earlier.
What you got to take then?
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Anyway, the decision was taken out of my hands earlier.
You haven't broken TBE have you? :o
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Has he been yet?
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Just shy of 2500 miles driving an Insignia.
Downsides:
Dull, boring, uninspiring, brake failure, appalling rear visibility
Upsides:
Errrrr....
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Joking aside, upsides:
Easily 700 miles from a tank
2500m later, I'm not crippled. Surprising comfortable. And thats without really properly adjusting the seats for me
Easy, effortless drive, if somewhat down on power
Some fun in the twisties, yet unexciting
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Joking aside, upsides:
Easily 700 miles from a tank
2500m later, I'm not crippled. Surprising comfortable. And thats without really properly adjusting the seats for me
Easy, effortless drive, if somewhat down on power
Some fun in the twisties, yet unexciting
You should try a VXR, oh my they're bloody lovely :-* :-*
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Joking aside, upsides:
Easily 700 miles from a tank
2500m later, I'm not crippled. Surprising comfortable. And thats without really properly adjusting the seats for me
Easy, effortless drive, if somewhat down on power
Some fun in the twisties, yet unexciting
Surprising , they get slated for the seats comfort :)
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Joking aside, upsides:
Easily 700 miles from a tank
2500m later, I'm not crippled. Surprising comfortable. And thats without really properly adjusting the seats for me
Easy, effortless drive, if somewhat down on power
Some fun in the twisties, yet unexciting
You should try a VXR, oh my they're bloody lovely :-* :-*
I suspect that would wipe the first 2 upsides off the list ;D
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Joking aside, upsides:
Easily 700 miles from a tank
2500m later, I'm not crippled. Surprising comfortable. And thats without really properly adjusting the seats for me
Easy, effortless drive, if somewhat down on power
Some fun in the twisties, yet unexciting
Surprising , they get slated for the seats comfort :)
Longest jouney was about 400m in a day, so all quite easy. At no point did I feel the need to stop due to discomfort... ...boredom maybe ::). Esp when you get on a motorway, and the next satnav instruction is keep left (ie, stay on motorway) in 167 miles :o
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Joking aside, upsides:
Easily 700 miles from a tank
2500m later, I'm not crippled. Surprising comfortable. And thats without really properly adjusting the seats for me
Easy, effortless drive, if somewhat down on power
Some fun in the twisties, yet unexciting
Surprising , they get slated for the seats comfort :)
Longest jouney was about 400m in a day, so all quite easy. At no point did I feel the need to stop due to discomfort... ...boredom maybe ::) . Esp when you get on a motorway, and the next satnav instruction is keep left (ie, stay on motorway) in 167 miles :o
??? ;D
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Joking aside, upsides:
Easily 700 miles from a tank
2500m later, I'm not crippled. Surprising comfortable. And thats without really properly adjusting the seats for me
Easy, effortless drive, if somewhat down on power
Some fun in the twisties, yet unexciting
Surprising , they get slated for the seats comfort :)
Longest jouney was about 400m in a day, so all quite easy. At no point did I feel the need to stop due to discomfort... ...boredom maybe ::) . Esp when you get on a motorway, and the next satnav instruction is keep left (ie, stay on motorway) in 167 miles :o
??? ;D
French drive on right. Silly idea if you ask me :P ;D
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Joking aside, upsides:
Easily 700 miles from a tank
2500m later, I'm not crippled. Surprising comfortable. And thats without really properly adjusting the seats for me
Easy, effortless drive, if somewhat down on power
Some fun in the twisties, yet unexciting
Surprising , they get slated for the seats comfort :)
Longest jouney was about 400m in a day, so all quite easy. At no point did I feel the need to stop due to discomfort... ...boredom maybe ::) . Esp when you get on a motorway, and the next satnav instruction is keep left (ie, stay on motorway) in 167 miles :o
??? ;D
French drive on right. Silly idea if you ask me :P ;D
I cant imagine myself driving in UK.. I cant pass the roads as a pedestrian, let alone driving.. many times I was warned ;D :-[
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interestingly Brits, here adopt very quickly :y
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interestingly Brits, here adopt very quickly :y
I tend to have no trouble driving on the right, either in RHD car or LHD car. Obvioulsy LHD is easier.
I guess more Brits are used to doing both, as UK is (in euroland) the odd one out.
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I like driving manual cars in Euroland, 1st gear is closest to you, so in traffic i find it a lot easier, bit more fun too :D
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I like driving manual cars in Euroland, 1st gear is closest to you, so in traffic i find it a lot easier, bit more fun too :D
I think I can drive only automatics there ;D
shifting with left hand , will be an interesting story :-X
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interestingly Brits, here adopt very quickly :y
I tend to have no trouble driving on the right, either in RHD car or LHD car. Obvioulsy LHD is easier.
I guess more Brits are used to doing both, as UK is (in euroland) the odd one out.
Indeed... I actually have more trouble switching bach to the correct side when we get home ::)Joking aside, upsides:
Easily 700 miles from a tank
2500m later, I'm not crippled. Surprising comfortable. And thats without really properly adjusting the seats for me
Easy, effortless drive, if somewhat down on power
Some fun in the twisties, yet unexciting
Surprising , they get slated for the seats comfort :)
Longest jouney was about 400m in a day, so all quite easy. At no point did I feel the need to stop due to discomfort... ...boredom maybe ::). Esp when you get on a motorway, and the next satnav instruction is keep left (ie, stay on motorway) in 167 miles :o
A few years back the SatNav made us both jump... Been on the same motorway with no instructions for 600 odd Km and then she piped up ::) ;D
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Joking aside, upsides:
Easily 700 miles from a tank
2500m later, I'm not crippled. Surprising comfortable. And thats without really properly adjusting the seats for me
Easy, effortless drive, if somewhat down on power
Some fun in the twisties, yet unexciting
You should try a VXR, oh my they're bloody lovely :-* :-*
I suspect that would wipe the first 2 upsides off the list ;D
Seats in the VXR's are lovely, and it's comfortable when in normal mode, put it in VXR mode and it gets a bit crashy. 325 BHP, 4 wheel drive and effortless pulling power make up for the poor fuel economy though ;D.
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shifting with left hand , will be an interesting story :-X
Nah, strogest hand on the important bit - the direction control device
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shifting with left hand , will be an interesting story :-X
Nah, strogest hand on the important bit - the direction control device
.. and closest to the window for gesticulation. :y
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shifting with left hand , will be an interesting story :-X
Nah, strogest hand on the important bit - the direction control device
.. and closest to the window for gesticulation. :y
You've been hanging around gayboy too much ;D
I have come to accept there are some inferior drivers to me (difficult to believe), and they are prone to making mistakes. I try not to let it get to me any more. Mrs TB, however, she has a wave for every occasion ;D