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Title: Any email experts here?
Post by: TheBoy on 23 April 2012, 19:21:26
SPFs in particular.

Since changing the DNS server, email leaving OOF (either automated, or from those with OOF Email Accounts), is frequently getting dropped as spam.

The implication is the SPF for omegaowners.com is wrong, but looks fine to me.


 :-\


Title: Re: Any email experts here?
Post by: STMO123 on 23 April 2012, 21:20:08
PM me with the details Jamie and I'll sort it for you  :y
 ;D
Title: Re: Any email experts here?
Post by: Rods2 on 23 April 2012, 21:32:40
Have you tried using the MS wizard to build one and then comparing it to what you have?

http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/safety/content/technologies/senderid/wizard/ (http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/safety/content/technologies/senderid/wizard/)

I'm not an expert, but have done several, but not recently, so a bit rusty, but if you want me to take a look PM it to me.
Title: Re: Any email experts here?
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 23 April 2012, 21:37:54
Quote from: STMO123 on 23 April 2012, 21:20:08
PM me with the details Jamie and I'll sort it for you  :y
 ;D


 ;D ;D ;D Peerless. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Any email experts here?
Post by: Rods2 on 23 April 2012, 21:40:26
Here is an SPF checking tool

http://www.kitterman.com/spf/validate.html (http://www.kitterman.com/spf/validate.html)
Title: Re: Any email experts here?
Post by: STMO123 on 23 April 2012, 21:42:01
Quote from: STMO123 on 23 April 2012, 21:20:08
PM me with the details Jamie and I'll sort it for you  :y
 ;D

And I know you hate your name being spelt wrong, but that was my android, not me   :-*
Title: Re: Any email experts here?
Post by: TheBoy on 23 April 2012, 22:04:37
The record is there for anyone to see. Only as a TXT record, not as an SPF (TXT is currently more valid, SPF RR is still very transistional).

For anyone who can help, I'd rather they pulled out the SPF from DNS themselves, just to prove that they are getting what I believe I'd put into DNS :y



I always create SPFs by hand, never had a problem, as its quite simple.  Run it against validators, and its "valid", but fails the openspf.net test, mail-from=failed (now changed to softfail, so some mail gets through).  Normally, I'd say the tester was faulty, but it uses a common SPF library, so if it is, I need to think of a workaround.


/Edit - various wizards create same SPF
Title: Re: Any email experts here?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 23 April 2012, 22:52:42
I seem to have been flagging incoming mails as SPF_PASS since around 16th April, if that's any help? :-\
Title: Re: Any email experts here?
Post by: Martian on 24 April 2012, 09:43:49
Quote from: STMO123 on 23 April 2012, 21:42:01
And I know you hate your name being spelt wrong, but that was my android, not me   :-*

Ditch the basic Sammy keyboard and replace it with Hackers Keyboard (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.pocketworkstation.pckeyboard&feature=nav_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDMsIm9yZy5wb2NrZXR3b3Jrc3RhdGlvbi5wY2tleWJvYXJkIl0.)
Title: Re: Any email experts here?
Post by: STMO123 on 24 April 2012, 11:05:34
Quote from: Martian on 24 April 2012, 09:43:49
Quote from: STMO123 on 23 April 2012, 21:42:01
And I know you hate your name being spelt wrong, but that was my android, not me   :-*

Ditch the basic Sammy keyboard and replace it with Hackers Keyboard (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.pocketworkstation.pckeyboard&feature=nav_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDMsIm9yZy5wb2NrZXR3b3Jrc3RhdGlvbi5wY2tleWJvYXJkIl0.)

Looks good, but I'll have to buy stronger reading glasses first  ;D
Title: Re: Any email experts here?
Post by: TheBoy on 24 April 2012, 20:51:51
Quote from: Kevin Wood on 23 April 2012, 22:52:42
I seem to have been flagging incoming mails as SPF_PASS since around 16th April, if that's any help? :-\
Certainly some mail servers have been marking it as failed (SPF can be analysed at 3 points I believe), including some big providers such as Yahoo (and thus UK's biggest ISP).

Trouble is, I'm convinced the SPF is right.
Title: Re: Any email experts here?
Post by: hercules on 24 April 2012, 21:05:03
switch the c port venus bus to the b port canbus and reboot the preliminary sanctions to the overun hard disk in d drive,upload spf to fragment source and retry the email client as yoohoo.if that dont work then msconfig and alter parameters on the sdf gosub to pop3@yoohoo.com and incoming to poppadoodledandledee@yoohoo.com.and if that dont work pm it to steve and he will sort it  :y
Title: Re: Any email experts here?
Post by: Grrrrrr on 24 April 2012, 21:44:38
Quote from: TheBoy on 24 April 2012, 20:51:51
Quote from: Kevin Wood on 23 April 2012, 22:52:42
I seem to have been flagging incoming mails as SPF_PASS since around 16th April, if that's any help? :-\
Certainly some mail servers have been marking it as failed (SPF can be analysed at 3 points I believe), including some big providers such as Yahoo (and thus UK's biggest ISP).

Trouble is, I'm convinced the SPF is right.

Yahoo is an absolute bl**dy nightmare when it comes to spam and spam software. Reminds me, I need to login and see what it has been blocking behind my back ...
Title: Re: Any email experts here?
Post by: Del Boy on 24 April 2012, 22:19:10
Quote from: hercules on 24 April 2012, 21:05:03
switch the c port venus bus to the b port canbus and reboot the preliminary sanctions to the overun hard disk in d drive,upload spf to fragment source and retry the email client as yoohoo.if that dont work then msconfig and alter parameters on the sdf gosub to pop3@yoohoo.com and incoming to poppadoodledandledee@yoohoo.com.and if that dont work pm it to steve and he will sort it  :y

 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Any email experts here?
Post by: TheBoy on 24 April 2012, 22:23:02
I'm now 99% convinced its an error with the (unfortunately commonly used) python spf library.  Bugger.