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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: hawke113a on 23 April 2012, 19:45:47
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can anyone point me in the right direction.i need to change my handbrake cable on my 2.5 estate.i have looked on here but cant find detailed instructions or pics.any help would be appreciated.cheers guys :D ;D
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I've changed one on a saloon, but not an estate. Not sure if it's the same, but if you don't get any joy I'll try to help!
Not overly difficult tbh, just awkward.
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I've changed one on a saloon, but not an estate. Not sure if it's the same, but if you don't get any joy I'll try to help!
Not overly difficult tbh, just awkward.
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I changed mv MV6 a few weeks back, I'm doing the Elite tomorrow if I get time.
Rob says estate is same as saloon, my two are saloons.
It's quite straightforward, and use of a creeper will make it much easier! :y Jack up, get on stands. Chock the front wheels well, as obviously your handbrake won't be in use. When car in air, release handbrake to 'fully down' position. It's easier I find to take the wheels off. Don't want to state obvious but make sure car is secure before you stick your body under it.
You need to take off the exhaust heat shields (4, 2 on each side). You will see the compensator bar where the main cable attatches to the two other cables in the prop shaft tunnel. Take note of how far the nut is screwed on here. Unscrew the nut and remove the thread off the main cable out of the compensator bar. On the wheel end, remove the h/b return spring on each side. Remove the cable from the lever thing that sticks out of the drum (it might be corroded on a bit - a little penetrating spray/wiggling/bashing will help). Now remove the handbrake cable assembly from the car by routing it through the exhaust/around chassis etc. You wil see where it needs to go. There are plastic clip things that it pops into - just un pop it.
Refit is a reverse of this. Making sure the nut on the thread is tightened the same distance as before so the handbrake is at the same position.
You can then adjust it according to the guide
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Here is the guide for servicing the h/b. You will see pictures of the compensator bar and return spring.
My quick how to is only from memory a few weeks back. If I get round to doing the elite tomorrow I'll take some pics for ya. But once ya get ya head under you'll be able to see it's quite straighforward.
hth
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Here is the guide for servicing the h/b. You will see pictures of the compensator bar and return spring.
My quick how to is only from memory a few weeks back. If I get round to doing the elite tomorrow I'll take some pics for ya. But once ya get ya head under you'll be able to see it's quite straighforward.
hth
think i need to do this job too handbrake at top but does nothing
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whoops! here it is, forgot to paste it the link!
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90580.0
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Here is the guide for servicing the h/b. You will see pictures of the compensator bar and return spring.
My quick how to is only from memory a few weeks back. If I get round to doing the elite tomorrow I'll take some pics for ya. But once ya get ya head under you'll be able to see it's quite straighforward.
hth
think i need to do this job too handbrake at top but does nothing
you can adjust it up nice and tight without replacing it. Assuming the shoes are in godd nick, and you don't want to fully service it, you can adjust the star adjusters on each wheel.
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thanks geoffr70 :y
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oh right.... so i can adjust ie tighten up the cable... :y got mot next month
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oh right.... so i can adjust ie tighten up the cable... :y got mot next month
Yes, if you're not replacing cable, servicing h/b or replacing shoes, you can tighten the h/b up by adjusting the star adjusters on each side, assuming the shoes are ok and the lining hasn't come off. Obviously best to fully service it though. Don't forget when adjusting star adjusters, they tighten in different directions on different sides if that makes sense?
...only I can't remember which way on which side so I'll have a bit of fun tomorrow 'remembering!
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oh right.... so i can adjust ie tighten up the cable... :y got mot next month
Yes, if you're not replacing cable, servicing h/b or replacing shoes, you can tighten the h/b up by adjusting the star adjusters on each side, assuming the shoes are ok and the lining hasn't come off. Obviously best to fully service it though. Don't forget when adjusting star adjusters, they tighten in different directions on different sides if that makes sense?
...only I can't remember which way on which side so I'll have a bit of fun tomorrow 'remembering!
mine are disc at rear......is that the same ..also have about 0.5 lip...will they fail mot
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I changed my rear discs and the shoe were ok, I couldn't adjust the compensator bar (too tight) so I adjusted it at the "Star" adjusters and my lever was at a nice height.
Since then, my H/B lever is slowly creeping higher!!!! I'm gonna need to change my cable too...
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I changed my rear discs and the shoe were ok, I couldn't adjust the compensator bar (too tight) so I adjusted it at the "Star" adjusters and my lever was at a nice height.
Since then, my H/B lever is slowly creeping higher!!!! I'm gonna need to change my cable too...
:-\ :-\ :-\
did you not have braking problems with the shoes on the discs
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oh right.... so i can adjust ie tighten up the cable... :y got mot next month
Yes, if you're not replacing cable, servicing h/b or replacing shoes, you can tighten the h/b up by adjusting the star adjusters on each side, assuming the shoes are ok and the lining hasn't come off. Obviously best to fully service it though. Don't forget when adjusting star adjusters, they tighten in different directions on different sides if that makes sense?
...only I can't remember which way on which side so I'll have a bit of fun tomorrow 'remembering!
mine are disc at rear......is that the same ..also have about 0.5 lip...will they fail mot
There are all disc at rear, with shoes inside the disc/drum that are operated by the handbrake lever.
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am i getting it wrong ( as usaul) pads work on discs ie;disc brakes...shoes work in a drum.ie drum brakes....
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am i getting it wrong ( as usaul) pads work on discs ie;disc brakes...shoes work in a drum.ie drum brakes....
I don't know what the proper term is.
The 'disc' on the rear brakes is a disc brake, so when you operate the foot brake, the pads apply friction to the disc in the usual way to stop the car. However the disc has a 'deeper bit' (told you i don't know the technical term) that acts as a drum, on the inside of which is the handbrake shoes, which apply friction to the inside of the 'drum'.
So it's like a disc/drum combined if that makes sense?
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BTW, i think the required efficiency for the handbrake on the MOT is only 15 or 16 % or something like that
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cheers guys will be having a go tomorrow (25) will let ya know how i get on :-\
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am i getting it wrong ( as usaul) pads work on discs ie;disc brakes...shoes work in a drum.ie drum brakes....
As Geoff says all Omega Bs have drum brakes for the hand brake. It's just that the inside of the 'hat' of the disc is the drum.
Which is why, when properly adjusted, the Omega handbrake actually works (unlike my other car(s) with calliper actuated handbrakes..) :)
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am i getting it wrong ( as usaul) pads work on discs ie;disc brakes...shoes work in a drum.ie drum brakes....
As Geoff says all Omega Bs have drum brakes for the hand brake. It's just that the inside of the 'hat' of the disc is the drum.
Which is why, when properly adjusted, the Omega handbrake actually works (unlike my other car(s) with calliper actuated handbrakes..) :)
yep seen guide 100% get it.... :y
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:y
I'm a big fan of the design - although I suspect I won't be when I come to getting the discs off the back of the Jag axle in the garage! 20 years of neglect probably means they'll be welded on (like the front discs were) ;D
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Don't forget when adjusting star adjusters, they tighten in different directions on different sides if that makes sense?
...only I can't remember which way on which side so I'll have a bit of fun tomorrow 'remembering!
any ideas aaron jb
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Don't forget when adjusting star adjusters, they tighten in different directions on different sides if that makes sense?
...only I can't remember which way on which side so I'll have a bit of fun tomorrow 'remembering!
any ideas aaron jb
Thats not a given, its all depends which way round the adjusters have been fitted..... :y
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I changed my rear discs and the shoe were ok, I couldn't adjust the compensator bar (too tight) so I adjusted it at the "Star" adjusters and my lever was at a nice height.
Since then, my H/B lever is slowly creeping higher!!!! I'm gonna need to change my cable too...
:-\ :-\ :-\
I changed my rear discs and the shoe were ok, I couldn't adjust the compensator bar (too tight) so I adjusted it at the "Star" adjusters and my lever was at a nice height.
Since then, my H/B lever is slowly creeping higher!!!! I'm gonna need to change my cable too...
:-\ :-\ :-\
did you not have braking problems with the shoes on the discs
I changed my rear discs and the shoe were ok, I couldn't adjust the compensator bar (too tight) so I adjusted it at the "Star" adjusters and my lever was at a nice height.
Since then, my H/B lever is slowly creeping higher!!!! I'm gonna need to change my cable too...
:-\ :-\ :-\
did you not have braking problems with the shoes on the discs
I'm sure this has already been said but....
I changed all 4 discs and pads, and the shoes inside the drum section of the rear discs were ok, that is to say that they had plenty of friction material but I did scuff them up with some course sand paper and re-assembled it all, I adjusted the rear shoes using the aforementioned "star adjusters" my H/B lever then sat 4 clicks up but now it's creeping up so... I need to fit a new cable... I think.... Maybe new shoes too....
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I adjusted mine and it was nice and tight, now it's rather slack so that's shy I'm replacing cable, might finally get round to it tOmorrow
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Before going near the cable, two questions
1) Was the cable very slack when you adjusted the rear shoes
2) Do you do as per the owners manual and lightly apply the handbrake for 100m or so every few months?
If the answer to 1) is no or dont know then it needs re-doing with the cable slack.
If the answer to 2) is yes then it simply needs checking and maybe the adjuster on the shoes nipping up