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Title: vibration from differential
Post by: manolo on 01 May 2012, 20:57:12
what to check?
I have vibration from differential when starting (1 and 2 speed) and turning left or right in curve
Title: Re: vibration from differential
Post by: Brikhead on 01 May 2012, 21:20:06
Have you checked the oil level?
Title: Re: vibration from differential
Post by: manolo on 01 May 2012, 22:49:05
yes. it is OK
Title: Re: vibration from differential
Post by: Omegatoy on 02 May 2012, 08:13:30
donut bushes?
prop rubbers? especially centre bearing
dmf ? :( if manual
all can cause this problem
Title: Re: vibration from differential
Post by: manolo on 17 October 2012, 18:25:51
I went mehanicar and he says to change some rubbers
Can I buy on Ebay, wich GM number to search?
Here is picture
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Title: Re: vibration from differential
Post by: ffcgary1 on 17 October 2012, 18:31:38
At the front of the propshaft there is a large rubber coupling on the front universal joint, these become soft with age and can cause driveline vibration, check it by gripping the prop at the front and try to see if there is exessive movement, if yes then change it.
It could be the centre rubber vibration damper but i would go with the front first.
Title: Re: vibration from differential
Post by: manolo on 17 October 2012, 19:22:54
is it on picture marked with red arrow?

found on Ebay
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-OMEGA-PROPSHAFT-GEARBOX-PROPSHAFT-JOINT-90-578-558-/230854088663?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item35bff9d7d7 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-OMEGA-PROPSHAFT-GEARBOX-PROPSHAFT-JOINT-90-578-558-/230854088663?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item35bff9d7d7)
is this that rubber?
My car is omega 2.6v6 2002.y.
Title: Re: vibration from differential
Post by: ffcgary1 on 17 October 2012, 21:03:20
YEP,
but the one one ebay you linked to is used and therefor unknown quality, also it does not list its model fitment as to what what engine size. they might be all the same but you will have to check that with your local dealer. if you fit a used part you might end up doing the job twice.
Some parts you need to buy new. More informed on here will be able to help you as to poss variations in part no and fitment.
Title: Re: vibration from differential
Post by: manolo on 19 October 2012, 09:39:18
I can't find GM number for my Omega 2.6v6
on ebay and local store there is only for 2.5v6 with no. GM 90578558 and swag 40860002 (50x127-131x30)
does it fit to my Omega?
Title: Re: vibration from differential
Post by: ffcgary1 on 19 October 2012, 17:27:46
Take that part No to your local dealer and ask if they are the same across the range.
Title: Re: vibration from differential
Post by: manolo on 22 October 2012, 16:20:05
rubber is OK but some disk is not  :(
can I change only this disk? if there is a GM no.?
Title: Re: vibration from differential
Post by: ffcgary1 on 23 October 2012, 21:16:26
What disc are you refering to, need more information and discription pls.
Title: Re: vibration from differential
Post by: manolo on 25 October 2012, 13:13:56
I found
it is PROPSHAFT BALANCE WEIGHT GM 90522611
http://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/VAUXHALL-OPEL-OMEGA-V6-PROPSHAFT-BALANCE-WEIGHT-GM-90522611-612-/310379449979?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item48440e8e7b (http://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/VAUXHALL-OPEL-OMEGA-V6-PROPSHAFT-BALANCE-WEIGHT-GM-90522611-612-/310379449979?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item48440e8e7b)


is it possibly to repair, what can go wrong with it?
Title: Re: vibration from differential
Post by: manolo on 25 October 2012, 20:31:22
I found
it is PROPSHAFT BALANCE WEIGHT GM 90522611
http://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/VAUXHALL-OPEL-OMEGA-V6-PROPSHAFT-BALANCE-WEIGHT-GM-90522611-612-/310379449979?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item48440e8e7b (http://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/VAUXHALL-OPEL-OMEGA-V6-PROPSHAFT-BALANCE-WEIGHT-GM-90522611-612-/310379449979?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item48440e8e7b)


is it possibly to repair, what can go wrong with it?

is it possible to drive without balance?
preice for new is about 600 Euro and can't find replacement
Title: Re: vibration from differential
Post by: ffcgary1 on 25 October 2012, 22:09:44
What makes you think yours is faulty mate, is yours damaged in anyway ? as far as i can see there is nothing to go wrong with the balance weight, have you checked the prop shaft to see if the small balance wieght is still attatched to the propshaft. It is a curved piece of metal stuck to the prop half way along its length, if that is missing it could give you the symptoms that you describe.
Title: Re: vibration from differential
Post by: ffcgary1 on 25 October 2012, 22:13:02
Does the vibration change at different speeds and does it occur at a certain speed, and dissaapear at a set speed.?
Title: Re: vibration from differential
Post by: pete220 on 26 October 2012, 00:08:06
i have this strange vibration on my 3.0 mv6 seems to come from the prop but only does it when backing off the gas between 60 mph to 50 mph but if i dip the clutch it stops it
Title: Re: vibration from differential
Post by: manolo on 26 October 2012, 08:26:24
it occurs only in 1 and 2 speed entering and exit roundabout, or when uphill start and turn left or right
when it happens reducing the acceleration it disappears
when accelerate straight and at higher speed there is no problem
Title: Re: vibration from differential
Post by: ffcgary1 on 27 October 2012, 19:09:11
i wonder if this is more related to the diff half shafts rather than gearbox, propshaft, coupler.
From the discription sounds like the shudder is when the car is turning either r/l and underload
so could be the joint on the half shaft.
Does the car have a LSD DIFF?
Title: Re: vibration from differential
Post by: manolo on 29 October 2012, 06:42:35
don't know about LSD diff
and don't believe that balance weight is wrong
what You mean by  joint on the half shaft???
Title: Re: vibration from differential
Post by: ffcgary1 on 29 October 2012, 11:32:11
from the rear diff on either side of the car is a drive shaft, and at each end of the drive shaft is a universal joint with a rubber gaitor on it, these are the joints that allow flex of the suspension whilst the car travels forward and the suspension travels up and down.
Check the condition of these joints for slopyness and also the rubber gaitors for splits and tears, if split then the grease may have leaked out and road dirt and salt may have entered the joint and caused damage.Other than that then I dont know how else to help you, perhaps someone else may have an idea.
Title: Re: vibration from differential
Post by: ffcgary1 on 29 October 2012, 11:36:57
Have you checked wheel bearings and wheel nuts for correct tightness, also worth checking conditon of front wishbone bushes and lower swivel joints as well.
Title: Re: vibration from differential
Post by: manolo on 30 October 2012, 09:04:49
1th mehanicar suspect to universal joints and lose clamp on rubber boots and oiled it. No difference in vibration but I think it could bee problem, will check again
all wishbone bushes (4 front and 2 rear) are new


TX
ffcgary1  :y
Title: Re: vibration from differential
Post by: manolo on 03 August 2013, 08:02:53
Find cose of vibration
It is up wishbone bush on carrier of diff
Anybody now the GM no.?
Title: Re: vibration from differential
Post by: biggriffin on 03 August 2013, 08:35:20
think its this one 90447156 diff carrier bush upper.

arm bush rear 90223456
arm bush front 90334925
anti roll bar bush rear 90373771
Title: Re: vibration from differential
Post by: manolo on 03 August 2013, 19:37:49
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Title: Re: vibration from differential
Post by: manolo on 08 August 2013, 22:27:33
no, it was not wishbone bush.
problem was some plate in diff, don't know name  but here is pic that i found on net (not from Omega)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-TflXXERGFkQ/ToT4QB6tiiI/AAAAAAAAAwM/BRa8KCPfIEU/s640/86.jpg)

seams that the plate is acting as spring and after time of usage is aligned
on the press we warp out centre
now i have no vibration, but don't know how long it will be OK

on the automotive hoist
before > when turning one wheel  other one was standing still
now > when turning one wheel other one is turning in the same direction

think now I should have better traction, will know after few days testing
Title: Re: vibration from differential
Post by: manolo on 09 August 2013, 18:44:39
if somebody need
http://www.partsbase.org/opel/omega-b-1994-2003-13-3-8-1-differential-case-rear-axle-with-limited-slip-differential/ (http://www.partsbase.org/opel/omega-b-1994-2003-13-3-8-1-differential-case-rear-axle-with-limited-slip-differential/)