Omega Owners Forum
Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: feeutfo on 07 May 2012, 02:04:59
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http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/list.asp?s=164
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Lordy
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201214461167944/sort/default/usedcars/radius/1500/keywords/lotus_carlton/page/1/postcode/rg64da?logcode=p
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The one on autotrader obviously doesn't want to sell quickly then???!! Either that or he just didn't do any research.
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The one on Autotrader has been on sale for years and the seller won't budge on the price. If you want it that's what it is. He's probably spent 10k on advertising since the first time I saw it ::) ::) ::) Other two are about right on price however for that kind of money you will still be taking risks which could cost you a fortune to put right. More and more parts are no longer available. The most critical being the plastic timing chain guides used. It won't be long and the straight 6 engine will be good for nothing more than a good coffee table :'( :'( :'( :'(
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Would have thought the chain guides can be made, no?
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Would have thought the chain guides can be made, no?
IIRC, the club was just coming to the end of last batch of re-manufactured chain guides. :-\
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Presume the evo has a similar problem ?
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The one on Autotrader has been on sale for years and the seller won't budge on the price. If you want it that's what it is. He's probably spent 10k on advertising since the first time I saw it ::) ::) ::) Other two are about right on price however for that kind of money you will still be taking risks which could cost you a fortune to put right. More and more parts are no longer available. The most critical being the plastic timing chain guides used. It won't be long and the straight 6 engine will be good for nothing more than a good coffee table :'( :'( :'( :'(
Thats off the list then :'( Guess the ones that are surviving are worth more in bits :-\
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Are they really the fastest saloon in the world, ever? :-\
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yes when they were launched they was the fastest saloon car and they were also restricted before they left the factory as they were that fast :y
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There not restricted they just eventually run out of puff like most cars. Rumours were saying it went past 177 but GM were getting cold feet about the project so tamed it down a little. Thanks to 155 limit imposed by a lot of car companies the LC held on to the worlds fasted saloon for a bloody long time. It took Porsche over decade before they made a faster car. Any GM straight six 24v car will be in trouble over guides from now on. I had a set when I rebuilt the LC so I'm ok for another 100k miles. One guide recently sold for 500 quid on ebay, not bad for a 30 quid part. There has been rumours of a Finnish firm re marking them in Aluminium however I not sure how well that would work in a road engine. Problem with the standard part is it's plastic reinforced with a metal strip so not really down to making from just plastic.
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The 12v straight six seems to be fairing quite well.
The guides on that one are usually good for 300k plus so they last alot better, at least in that respect.
That's why I'm building a hybrid 12v for my Diplomat - I just can't muster much confidence in the 24v engine.
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There not restricted they just eventually run out of puff like most cars. Rumours were saying it went past 177 but GM were getting cold feet about the project so tamed it down a little. Thanks to 155 limit imposed by a lot of car companies the LC held on to the worlds fasted saloon for a bloody long time. It took Porsche over decade before they made a faster car. Any GM straight six 24v car will be in trouble over guides from now on. I had a set when I rebuilt the LC so I'm ok for another 100k miles. One guide recently sold for 500 quid on ebay, not bad for a 30 quid part. There has been rumours of a Finnish firm re marking them in Aluminium however I not sure how well that would work in a road engine. Problem with the standard part is it's plastic reinforced with a metal strip so not really down to making from just plastic.
Fekin ell (http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww173/prestonjjrtr/Smileys/SMILEYMONEY-1.gif)
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.....- I just can't muster much confidence in the 24v engine.
My 24v Senator went to 180k in my ownership with no problems at all ..........apart from the usuall HG at around 150k
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I scrapped two 24v Senators six years ago.They had both done just over 100,000 miles, engines ran sweet as a nut.Didnt get a penny for them from the scrap man at the time.Wish I had took the chain guides out of them now. ::) ;D
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.....- I just can't muster much confidence in the 24v engine.
My 24v Senator went to 180k in my ownership with no problems at all ..........apart from the usuall HG at around 150k
Dont get me wrong, I'm not suggesting that a well maintained engine cant be good for a fair few miles, but it's getting very hard to find one that has been properly maintained for most of it's life.
That and the parts being hard to come by are what put me off.
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I liked the Senny.
Fastest I had been in a production car in was 1992 (164 or thereby) until I had a blat in a police spec Evo around 2003/4 which matched it.
Given the percentage metal around both, 20/20 hindsight makes me prefer the Senny.
Long live the memory of H98LFS!! ;D
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i loved my senny aswell,got loads of comments on how good she looked,and went very well,upset a few of the sri's and gte's that tried to race me lol ;D
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Best car Vauxhall ever made. :y ::)
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Mate of mine has just got himself an ex Merseyside Police Senator. Can't wait to have a go...
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The one on Autotrader has been on sale for years and the seller won't budge on the price. If you want it that's what it is. He's probably spent 10k on advertising since the first time I saw it ::) ::) ::) Other two are about right on price however for that kind of money you will still be taking risks which could cost you a fortune to put right. More and more parts are no longer available. The most critical being the plastic timing chain guides used. It won't be long and the straight 6 engine will be good for nothing more than a good coffee table :'( :'( :'( :'(
We're seeing this already & the latest cars are just 7 years old from build date.
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I'm sure you are but it's the everyday items which are becoming a pain. If it wasn't ABS we'd be short a lot more parts. Even things like HT leads would be a pain. My best mileage 24v straight 6 lump covered 209k miles before a big end went. I rebuilt that engine in fact i still have it!!! It's on a trolley in my garage with the bores full of oil waiting to go into my gsi Carlie I have.
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I'll not be making the mistake of letting my Carlton go.
I'll be rebuilding her over the summer but using all standard GM parts (except the exhaust) - mostly used unfortunately.
I have even managed to source a Sportstyle from and rear skirt for it - anyone know of any Sportstyle sill trims?
(yeah right) ::)
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Did I ever say I regret selling my Senator? ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Did I ever say I regret selling my Senator? ::) ::) ::) ::)
Yeah , and me selling my carlton :'(
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Utterly pointless owning one of these after what i/we where were driven in on Monday. Almost another 1/3 as much power again, and for less money. Although it did have some "goodies" under the bonet. ;D
Apart from the very valid nostalgia reasons of course. ;)
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Utterly pointless owning one of these after what i/we where were driven in on Monday. Almost another 1/3 as much power again, and for less money. Although it did have some "goodies" under the bonet. ;D
Apart from the very valid nostalgia reasons of course. ;)
If I could afford and justify it, sod OOF, it would be VXR8OF ::)
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It is the future. I have seen it. My eyes where opened. ...very opened. ;D
....will the omega central locking ecu work in it? Rear blind, memory seats, auto dip mirror, etc...? ::)
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Hang on... Justify it? That was you in the back wasn't it? I mean, you where there, at the time, in pearson. ...?
What else do you need to justify it? As that bloke said in ...what ever film it was... This here shit sells itself. I also have neck ache now, as well as back and leg ache. ;D
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Utterly pointless owning one of these after what i/we where were driven in on Monday. Almost another 1/3 as much power again, and for less money. Although it did have some "goodies" under the bonet. ;D
Apart from the very valid nostalgia reasons of course. ;)
If I could afford and justify it, sod OOF, it would be VXR8OF ::)
;D
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Seein as we're on a trip down memory lane, just seen this on fleabay
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OPEL-SENATOR-3-0E-CD-1983-40-200-miles-Superb-condition-classic-luxury-saloon-/110870670802?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item19d0682dd2
Seems pretty tidy? Although I don't like the seat colour / material :o
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Coming from GM6 Spares it'll be a bloody good one too.
Derek is the man when it comes to the Senny A and Monza - some of his resto work is amazing!
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A little birdy tells me that Senny is on it's way to New Zealand. You heard it here first chaps. :y
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Monaro-LS1-600-bhp-Supercharged-Engine-Tremec-6-speed-gearbox-conversion-/290709459713?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item43afa25301
Ram that in your omega chris 8)
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break me that lot barely fits in a Monaro, never mind an omega. ;D
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break me that lot barely fits in a Monaro, never mind an omega. ;D
Make room, it's been done before.... :)
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break me that lot barely fits in a Monaro, never mind an omega. ;D
Make room, it's been done before.... :)
Yes I know. Vxr8. Decission made. I'll just have to pester TB for the toys options. ;)
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It is the future. I have seen it. My eyes where opened. ...very opened. ;D
....will the omega central locking ecu work in it? Rear blind, memory seats, auto dip mirror, etc...? ::)
Don't worry aboot all that gubbins ::)
Just import the Holden VE Calais, job done :y
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Monaro-LS1-600-bhp-Supercharged-Engine-Tremec-6-speed-gearbox-conversion-/290709459713?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item43afa25301
Ram that in your omega chris 8)
Yeah + 1 :P :P
Which is easier , fitting a straight 6 or v8 :-\
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Straight 6. Omega is built on the Senator / Carlton platform with the same suspension,steering,brakes etc. and they had straight 6 engines,so shouldnt be that difficult to put one in there.Twin turbo LC spec straight 6 six might be more of a challenge but its been done,so its not completely unknown territory.
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Straight 6 would be easier to work on no doubt :)
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Straight 6. Omega is built on the Senator / Carlton platform with the same suspension,steering,brakes etc. and they had straight 6 engines,so shouldnt be that difficult to put one in there.Twin turbo LC spec straight 6 six might be more of a challenge but its been done,so its not completely unknown territory.
It's been done alright, Omegatoy did it! CBA to find the link but it has been mentioned a few times. Left the badges on stating it was a 2.0........gave a lot of people a surprise!
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Indeed. :y............young master Twiglet was speaking to the current owner of the car recently.Iirc it hasnt turned a wheel for a couple of years or so ,which is a shame.