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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Rods2 on 09 May 2012, 21:40:16
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Why UK law is now a sick Joke. Good law is when ALL citizens are equal in the eyes of the law, which is what UK law used to be known for.
Stephen Lawrence, attacked and killed by racists, case badly investigated by the Met. Police. Public inquiry who branded Met. Police as institutionally racist.
A Muslim Pakistani pedophile ring, targeted and groomed over 50 white girls which they serially raped. Police and Social Services not only failed to investigate, but brushed it under the carpet so as not to appear racist! :o :o :o There will be no public inquiry and according to the all concerned including our politicians, it is not a racist case. How can this be so when they are one race and they deliberately targets people of a different race?
Now, if a white pedophile ring targeted, groomed and raped over 50 muslim girls, do you think the outcome would have been the same?
They have been sentenced to between 5 and 19 years, which means 2.5 to 9.5 years with 50% remission, or between 2.5 weeks and 9 weeks in jail per abused girl. Is this a just sentence?
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Nail on the head :y
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As far as i can see...there is no such thing as others being racialist to white English people..it always appears to me to be us being accused of being racialist to others...there is no justice what so ever...i am not a racialist..but i believe that my country has gone mad..i always thought that we all...that includes everyone has the freedom of speech...but alas we have not...
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This attitude to the female sex by these f*ckers has been happening in the citys of our country for 20 years or more >:(
In there eyes, non muslim women are just a piece of dirty meat who are there to abuse.
Nothing will ever change that in there eyes.
Its there culture >:(
Even more worrying is most of these scum are now born in this country and because of this are now classed as british :'( :'(
Nowdays the police are terrified to act against things like this incase a complaint of racism is made and the poor coppers career is destroyed by the polically correct brigade.
I stopped swmbo from walking down certain streets in Hull on her own or after dark because of things like this.
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Yes I'm inclined to agree, sadly (without prejudice): All thanks to a clusteropps of individuals masquerading as elected officials supposedly serving the citizens of this nation whilst enjoying the best that our sovereign parliament has to offer and, in doing so, totally absolving themselves of any responsibility for any resultant damage caused to the fabric of our society.
In reality they are of course mere lackeys for the true arbiters of power in this country - the gutless, breakless, mealy-mouthed, self-serving Lady bitss occupying the controls of the machine that seeks to influence our every breathing moment – the European Union.
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This attitude to the female sex by these f*ckers has been happening in the citys of our country for 20 years or more >:(
In there eyes, non muslim women are just a piece of dirty meat who are there to abuse.
Nothing will ever change that in there eyes.
Its there culture >:(
Even more worrying is most of these scum are now born in this country and because of this are now classed as british :'( :'(
Nowdays the police are terrified to act against things like this incase a complaint of racism is made and the poor coppers career is destroyed by the polically correct brigade.
I stopped swmbo from walking down certain streets in Hull on her own or after dark because of things like this.
+1.... >:( :( :(
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We should gas the tinkers like mixy rabbits. >:(
Local police were still claiming yesterday that there was no racial elemnet to the case. FFS!! >:( >:( >:(
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We should gas the tinkers like mixy rabbits. >:(
Local police were still claiming yesterday that there was no racial elemnet to the case. FFS!! >:( >:( >:(
+1
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IIRC, the judge in the case strategically said words to the effect that the girls were targeted because they were not of your 'community or religion'!
I know what that means.
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Nothing will change until this sort of behaviour starts to creep onto the doorsteps of the little leafy suburbs of england where our wonderful mp's live with there families.
At the moment, its not on there doorsteps so most of the tinkers are not bothered >:( >:(
When it does, you watch there attitude change ;)
Problem is, we will all be living under sharia law by then >:( >:(
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Have we got any Muslim members who are prepared to come on here and defend this behaviour?
I wait with interest.
If you're a Muslim in this country now, the odds are definitely in your favour.
It's all gone too far now people. We should have stopped this while we had the chance.
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Every single word 100% true,we would be stoned to death if we were to do this in a Muslim country. >:(
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These were evil people doing horrific things - how could anyone sane defend them? I wouldn't even want to hear anyone try.
I'm not a muslim, but you could call me a "minority". I don't have a 'community', don't know how I'm better off than anyone else and rarely think about it unless I have to put a tick next to something on a form.
This 'us' and 'them' who is 'them'?
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These were evil people doing horrific things - how could anyone sane defend them? I wouldn't even want to hear anyone try.
I'm not a muslim, but you could call me a "minority". I don't have a 'community', don't know how I'm better off than anyone else and rarely think about it unless I have to put a tick next to something on a form.
This 'us' and 'them' who is 'them'?
Sadly in there eyes, their religious faith says that anybody who doesnt agree with their interpritation is a "kuffar" or un believer >:(
There is no "we are living in their country so we must respect their laws and customs", only "we are right and the rest of the world can go to hell"
Could you imagine what would happen if you moved your family across to Pakistan and set up a Whore house, a lap dancing club and a bacon sandwich shop in there citys ?
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I saw an Asian lad being interviewed about this during the BBC news.
He blamed the girls' mums and dads. They shouldn't have been allowed to roam the streets apparently.
I suppose all good Muslim girls are safely tucked up by 7 pm reading their copy of the Koran, while their dads and grandads are free to abuse white girls who dare to go out in the evening.
Sorry to go on about this, but I remember from a long time ago a Richard Littlejohn column in the Sun saying this country is going to hell in a handcart. How right he was.
Yet another article in the Sun today about Stephen Lawrence. As tragic as it was, for God's sake let it lie now.
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I saw an Asian lad being interviewed about this during the BBC news.
He blamed the girls' mums and dads. They shouldn't have been allowed to roam the streets apparently.
I suppose all good Muslim girls are safely tucked up by 7 pm reading their copy of the Koran, while their dads and grandads are free to abuse white girls who dare to go out in the evening.
Sorry to go on about this, but I remember from a long time ago a Richard Littlejohn column in the Sun saying this country is going to hell in a handcart. How right he was.
Yet another article in the Sun today about Stephen Lawrence. As tragic as it was, for God's sake let it lie now.
I saw that cocky little bastard needs a baseball bat round his ear innit.
What I can't understand is why white girls want to go around with muslims in the first place, and the number of white girls with half caste kids is shameful :(
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I saw that cocky little bastard needs a baseball bat round his ear innit.
What I can't understand is why white girls want to go around with muslims in the first place, and the number of white girls with half caste kids is shameful :(
Totally agree with that sentiment Cleggy
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Mmmm.. blokes thinking they know better than birds, sounds like them to me.
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I saw an Asian lad being interviewed about this during the BBC news.
He blamed the girls' mums and dads. They shouldn't have been allowed to roam the streets apparently.
I suppose all good Muslim girls are safely tucked up by 7 pm reading their copy of the Koran, while their dads and grandads are free to abuse white girls who dare to go out in the evening.
Sorry to go on about this, but I remember from a long time ago a Richard Littlejohn column in the Sun saying this country is going to hell in a handcart. How right he was.
Yet another article in the Sun today about Stephen Lawrence. As tragic as it was, for God's sake let it lie now.
I saw that cocky little bastard needs a baseball bat round his ear innit.
What I can't understand is why white girls want to go around with muslims in the first place, and the number of white girls with half caste kids is shameful :(
Quite a number of these vulnerable girls have spent much of their short lives at the mercy of the "care system". They are often damaged goods, and as such, carry much emotional baggage.Their immaturity and vulnerability, and their need to be accepted, makes them easy prey for certain predatory males who have absolutely no respect for them.......or any other white women. :-\ :-\ :-\
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Every time something like this happens, there is much indignation on forums such as this one, with people saying that we get the shitty end of the stick every time and that nothing is ever done about it. Well....instead of airing your grievances on here (or possibly as well as), write, phone or even knock on the rather front door of the people in authority who wilfully choose not to take urgent action against these injustices. Younger folk certainly know how to mobilise when they feel aggrieved about Pirate Bay or the likes.
We elect these useless bastards and, although they think that means we endorse their subsequent torpor, we can unelect them.
I will be looking for the email address of my MP and, although I don't think it's happening in this area, letting him know exactly what message he should be taking to London.
Come on fellas, get off your arse. Please.
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I see your point Opti and unfortunately there is no easy solution. These poor children have been let down by Parents, the Care System and Society in general. The parents don't care, a child is just more benefits not to be loved and nurtured. The care system is full of bleeding heart liberals who have no control or even educate the children, and society is only interested when a case like this comes to light.
The bottom line is that this is totally wrong, it is child abuse, paedophilia, rape and a racist crime to boot. So what do the CPS and GMP do... wipe it under the carpet, when it finally comes to court the sentences are so weak as to be a joke. I just hope these bastards get what is coming to them on the inside and they are not segregated.
The only chap to accept the gravity of the crimes and it's racial overtones was from a Muslim organisation. I wish I had the answer, well I do but not on a public forum such as this. :y
WELL SAID STMO, I do contact my MP on several issues from National to Local and he is a good constituency guy, but try to demand action on national issues e.g EU Referendum and all you get is the party line ( bullshit). Mind you I know what he'd say about repatriation ;D ;D
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Every time something like this happens, there is much indignation on forums such as this one, with people saying that we get the shitty end of the stick every time and that nothing is ever done about it. Well....instead of airing your grievances on here (or possibly as well as), write, phone or even knock on the rather front door of the people in authority who wilfully choose not to take urgent action against these injustices. Younger folk certainly know how to mobilise when they feel aggrieved about Pirate Bay or the likes.
We elect these useless bastards and, although they think that means we endorse their subsequent torpor, we can unelect them.
I will be looking for the email address of my MP and, although I don't think it's happening in this area, letting him know exactly what message he should be taking to London.
Come on fellas, get off your arse. Please.
I will be looking for the email address of my MP and, although I don't think it's happening in this area, letting him know exactly what message he should be taking to London.
Even though you're not an ugly woman Steve, statements such as that will place you in my heart for always. :-* :-* :y
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Every time something like this happens, there is much indignation on forums such as this one, with people saying that we get the shitty end of the stick every time and that nothing is ever done about it. Well....instead of airing your grievances on here (or possibly as well as), write, phone or even knock on the rather front door of the people in authority who wilfully choose not to take urgent action against these injustices. Younger folk certainly know how to mobilise when they feel aggrieved about Pirate Bay or the likes.
We elect these useless bastards and, although they think that means we endorse their subsequent torpor, we can unelect them.
I will be looking for the email address of my MP and, although I don't think it's happening in this area, letting him know exactly what message he should be taking to London.
Come on fellas, get off your arse. Please.
I do write/mail my MP....its nice to receive a reply in a posh envelope with House Of Commons on it. My postie must think I am something high up ;)
However, in a serious vein, the replies are usually very patronising and as about as much use as a chocolate teapot >:( >:( >:( >:(
But I shall keep pestering
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I saw an Asian lad being interviewed about this during the BBC news.
He blamed the girls' mums and dads. They shouldn't have been allowed to roam the streets apparently.
I suppose all good Muslim girls are safely tucked up by 7 pm reading their copy of the Koran, while their dads and grandads are free to abuse white girls who dare to go out in the evening.
Sorry to go on about this, but I remember from a long time ago a Richard Littlejohn column in the Sun saying this country is going to hell in a handcart. How right he was.
Yet another article in the Sun today about Stephen Lawrence. As tragic as it was, for God's sake let it lie now.
I saw that cocky little bastard needs a baseball bat round his ear innit.
What I can't understand is why white girls want to go around with muslims in the first place, and the number of white girls with half caste kids is shameful :(
Quite a number of these vulnerable girls have spent much of their short lives at the mercy of the "care system". They are often damaged goods, and as such, carry much emotional baggage.Their immaturity and vulnerability, and their need to be accepted, makes them easy prey for certain predatory males who have absolutely no respect for them.......or any other white women. :-\ :-\ :-\
Alot of Asian women get treated really badly by their own families. I know an Asian girl from Manchester, who was born here, brought up here and educated to university level here. She considers herself to be English. :)
Her parents organised a family holiday to Pakistan to celebrate her graduation, but she was tipped off by a cousin that they planned to marry her off to a distant relative, in the village that her father originated from and leave her there. :o >:(
She legged it down south and hasn't had any contact with her family for years now. What sort of people would do something like that to their own children!! ??? >:( Years later she's still looking over her shoulder, as she knows they're still looking for her and want to 'avenge' the dishonour that she brought upon her family....... :o :o :o >:( >:( >:(
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Enoc Powell said this problem would happen, what did the powers that-be do,they sacked him, he is being proved right but the numty,s that run our country havnt the guts to do anything about it.
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I saw that cocky little bastard needs a baseball bat round his ear innit.
What I can't understand is why white girls want to go around with muslims in the first place, and the number of white girls with half caste kids is shameful :(
Totally agree with that sentiment Cleggy
This seems to have slipped under the radar. I've met, worked with, fought with, slept with, and done a lot of other things with, people of an awful lot of creeds and colours. You simply can't declare it as "shameful" on the grounds that they're of a different colour. There are plenty of second, third and fourth generation white British families of scumbags, sponging off the state and stealing to satisfy their own wants and desires...
You either square up as a decent human being, or you don't. I refer you to one of my colleagues, Asian born, has lived and grafted here for the last 30 years, 70+ hours a week, in order for his kids to be able to go to university to study to be pharmacologists and architects, with the minimum of debt to society.
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I can say it as I see it, if the state has to support a girl with four kids, to four fathers, all afro carribean then I find it shameful >:(
I also know some wonderful people of all colours, creeds and religions :y
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I can say it as I see it, if the state has to support a girl with four kids, to four fathers, all afro carribean then I find it shameful >:(
I also know some wonderful people of all colours, creeds and religions :y
You missed that qualification about state support first time around ;)
>puts high horse back in stable<
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I personally couldn't give a toss what colour / religon these people are.
Its about respect for the laws and customs of the country where you live ;)
If they can't get there head around that, deport them >:( >:(
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To me the really important aspect to this case is that it appears that political correctness has been allowed to permeate the mindset of this country (particularily the establishment,including the police) that we have got to the point where our children can be raped at will,repeatedly over a long period,and when they cry to the authorites for help,the first response is to turn a blind eye.Sweep it under the carpet.Too frightened to allow that can of worms to be opened.
If it is as it appears,then we as a society should say enough is enough of this madness.We need to draw a line in the sand,and declare a mass return to common sense.
We live in a world where what used to be wrong is right,what used to be right is wrong.Many of those rights/wrongs ahd come about over many generations of experience,and had been arrived at for good reasons,but we have thrown the baby out with the bathwater on a massive scale,and ended up here.
Heads should roll,people who have engineered this direction for our society should hang their heads in shame.But of course they wont.We need to find some way of retaking control of the asylum from the lunatics.
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I personally couldn't give a toss what colour / religon these people are.
Its about respect for the laws and customs of the country where you live ;)
If they can't get there head around that, deport them >:( >:(
ABSO - FREAKIN- LUTELY :y :y
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To me the really important aspect to this case is that it appears that political correctness has been allowed to permeate the mindset of this country (particularily the establishment,including the police) that we have got to the point where our children can be raped at will,repeatedly over a long period,and when they cry to the authorites for help,the first response is to turn a blind eye.Sweep it under the carpet.Too frightened to allow that can of worms to be opened.
If it is as it appears,then we as a society should say enough is enough of this madness.We need to draw a line in the sand,and declare a mass return to common sense.
We live in a world where what used to be wrong is right,what used to be right is wrong.Many of those rights/wrongs ahd come about over many generations of experience,and had been arrived at for good reasons,but we have thrown the baby out with the bathwater on a massive scale,and ended up here.
Heads should roll,people who have engineered this direction for our society should hang their heads in shame.But of course they wont.We need to find some way of retaking control of the asylum from the lunatics.
WELL SAID THAT MAN :y :y
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To me the really important aspect to this case is that it appears that political correctness has been allowed to permeate the mindset of this country (particularily the establishment,including the police) that we have got to the point where our children can be raped at will,repeatedly over a long period,and when they cry to the authorites for help,the first response is to turn a blind eye.Sweep it under the carpet.Too frightened to allow that can of worms to be opened.
If it is as it appears,then we as a society should say enough is enough of this madness.We need to draw a line in the sand,and declare a mass return to common sense.
We live in a world where what used to be wrong is right,what used to be right is wrong.Many of those rights/wrongs ahd come about over many generations of experience,and had been arrived at for good reasons,but we have thrown the baby out with the bathwater on a massive scale,and ended up here.
Heads should roll,people who have engineered this direction for our society should hang their heads in shame.But of course they wont.We need to find some way of retaking control of the asylum from the lunatics.
+1 well said :y
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Agree with all that has been said on here, but as far as all of the mainstream parties are concerned it is all about rights and equalities of minorities, including law backed inequalities and discrimination against the majority.
The majority of us on here are middle aged white heterosexual men, so you and I don't count and have no rights. The only use you and I have in this society is to work as hard as possible, so the Governments through a process of legalized robbery (taxation) can appropriate as much as possible of it from your hard work to fund the lifestyles of the lazy and breakless in our society, to support their apparatus of oppression against the majority, to take from us and give to billionaire dictators (foreign aid), to fund their latest fads projects (windmills), to give £50m a day to the breakwits in Brussels, who in return are destroying the economies, democracies and countries of Europe and to cure the ills of 3rd world health tourists, with free treatment on the NHS, to destroy our armed forces, through the process of a million cuts and to Europeanise it by scrapping the centuries old regiment system.
So if I complain as a Christian about Gay marriage, I'm homophobic.
If I complain about immigration and its effects on society, I'm a racist.
If I complain about the levels of taxation, I an evil uncaring person, who doesn't want to pay his 'fair' share.
If I complain about PC killing free speech, I'm a foul mouthed bigot.
If I complain about the killing off of free enterprise through a million oppressive regulations and that companies making profits is good thing. I'm a swivel eyed, right wing extremest.
If I complain that as an entrepreneur that I'm losing the battle against living costs, taxation and regulation, then I'm evil capitalist, a gadfly and spiv (according to the business secretary Vince Cable).
If I complain about the crony capitalism operated between the banks, large companies and the political elite to societies detriment, I told I'm a fool that doesn't understand big business.
So what do I do, I give up complaining and emigrate. As soon as I've sold my house I'm gone from once Great country that is now a very high tax, multi-cultural, socialist shite house. I'm going to country outside of the EUSSR, that like their current freedoms and that understands what it was like to live under the earlier version of it, the USSR, who along with the Nazi's killed 28m of their population between 1917 and 1945 and made the people desperately poor. Things are going to get much, much worse in this country under the EUSSR before it crashes like the USSR.
When the last white person left in Britain leaves, please make sure they turn out the lights so the country doesn't miss the latest EUSSR CO2 target.
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And breath ........................ Sadly I agree with 100% of that :y
So ...................... where did it all start ?
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It is all just part of a cycle.
In Roman times who would have thought that the mighty Roman Empire would fall? Yet it did. In modern times when were were younger who would have thought that the Chinese would develop like they have?
30 years ago who would have thought that Britain would turn out like it has.
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Agree with all that has been said on here, but as far as all of the mainstream parties are concerned it is all about rights and equalities of minorities, including law backed inequalities and discrimination against the majority.
The majority of us on here are middle aged white heterosexual men, so you and I don't count and have no rights. The only use you and I have in this society is to work as hard as possible, so the Governments through a process of legalized robbery (taxation) can appropriate as much as possible of it from your hard work to fund the lifestyles of the lazy and breakless in our society, to support their apparatus of oppression against the majority, to take from us and give to billionaire dictators (foreign aid), to fund their latest fads projects (windmills), to give £50m a day to the breakwits in Brussels, who in return are destroying the economies, democracies and countries of Europe and to cure the ills of 3rd world health tourists, with free treatment on the NHS, to destroy our armed forces, through the process of a million cuts and to Europeanise it by scrapping the centuries old regiment system.
So if I complain as a Christian about Gay marriage, I'm homophobic.
If I complain about immigration and its effects on society, I'm a racist.
If I complain about the levels of taxation, I an evil uncaring person, who doesn't want to pay his 'fair' share.
If I complain about PC killing free speech, I'm a foul mouthed bigot.
If I complain about the killing off of free enterprise through a million oppressive regulations and that companies making profits is good thing. I'm a swivel eyed, right wing extremest.
If I complain that as an entrepreneur that I'm losing the battle against living costs, taxation and regulation, then I'm evil capitalist, a gadfly and spiv (according to the business secretary Vince Cable).
If I complain about the crony capitalism operated between the banks, large companies and the political elite to societies detriment, I told I'm a fool that doesn't understand big business.
So what do I do, I give up complaining and emigrate. As soon as I've sold my house I'm gone from once Great country that is now a very high tax, multi-cultural, socialist shite house. I'm going to country outside of the EUSSR, that like their current freedoms and that understands what it was like to live under the earlier version of it, the USSR, who along with the Nazi's killed 28m of their population between 1917 and 1945 and made the people desperately poor. Things are going to get much, much worse in this country under the EUSSR before it crashes like the USSR.
When the last white person left in Britain leaves, please make sure they turn out the lights so the country doesn't miss the latest EUSSR CO2 target.
Wish i had said that :y
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Agree with all that has been said on here, but as far as all of the mainstream parties are concerned it is all about rights and equalities of minorities, including law backed inequalities and discrimination against the majority.
The majority of us on here are middle aged white heterosexual men, so you and I don't count and have no rights. The only use you and I have in this society is to work as hard as possible, so the Governments through a process of legalized robbery (taxation) can appropriate as much as possible of it from your hard work to fund the lifestyles of the lazy and breakless in our society, to support their apparatus of oppression against the majority, to take from us and give to billionaire dictators (foreign aid), to fund their latest fads projects (windmills), to give £50m a day to the breakwits in Brussels, who in return are destroying the economies, democracies and countries of Europe and to cure the ills of 3rd world health tourists, with free treatment on the NHS, to destroy our armed forces, through the process of a million cuts and to Europeanise it by scrapping the centuries old regiment system.
So if I complain as a Christian about Gay marriage, I'm homophobic.
If I complain about immigration and its effects on society, I'm a racist.
If I complain about the levels of taxation, I an evil uncaring person, who doesn't want to pay his 'fair' share.
If I complain about PC killing free speech, I'm a foul mouthed bigot.
If I complain about the killing off of free enterprise through a million oppressive regulations and that companies making profits is good thing. I'm a swivel eyed, right wing extremest.
If I complain that as an entrepreneur that I'm losing the battle against living costs, taxation and regulation, then I'm evil capitalist, a gadfly and spiv (according to the business secretary Vince Cable).
If I complain about the crony capitalism operated between the banks, large companies and the political elite to societies detriment, I told I'm a fool that doesn't understand big business.
So what do I do, I give up complaining and emigrate. As soon as I've sold my house I'm gone from once Great country that is now a very high tax, multi-cultural, socialist shite house. I'm going to country outside of the EUSSR, that like their current freedoms and that understands what it was like to live under the earlier version of it, the USSR, who along with the Nazi's killed 28m of their population between 1917 and 1945 and made the people desperately poor. Things are going to get much, much worse in this country under the EUSSR before it crashes like the USSR.
When the last white person left in Britain leaves, please make sure they turn out the lights so the country doesn't miss the latest EUSSR CO2 target.
:y :yi couldnt agree more well said that man :y :y :y
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It is all just part of a cycle.
In Roman times who would have thought that the mighty Roman Empire would fall? Yet it did. In modern times when were were younger who would have thought that the Chinese would develop like they have?
30 years ago who would have thought that Britain would turn out like it has.
30 years ago who would have thought that Britain would turn out like it has
Aah back to the heady days of single party government, a British Prime Minister with balls (notwithstanding the balls she made of things at various times of her tenure) a good old fashioned Labour party and to a time when Schengen, the SEA and Maastricht were merely dreams in the fertile minds of those who would eventually be responsible for having whatever vestige of ‘democracy’ and accountability that previously existed in this country destroyed by its sovereign parliament and, indeed, to eventually engineer the destruction of the ‘democratic’ process across an entire continent.
Simple times, but no less worthy for that fact. :y
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This subject is being talked about on Question Time right now BBC1
Sadly the "experts" seem to be in denial.
Dam, just changed subject 2 seconds after pressed the button.
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I had to turn it over.Stupid people shouldnt be allowed to - vote,sit on question time panel,be members of question time audience,run the national broadcasting institution........... ::)
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This subject is being talked about on Question Time right now BBC1
Sadly the "experts" seem to be in denial.
Dam, just changed subject 2 seconds after pressed the button.
I just watched that and the question was " is it a racial isssue" or words to that effect. Every bloody one of them stated that it wasn't.........one word 'dangle berries'. >:( >:( >:(
If it has been white men abusing muslims girls would that be a racial issue. >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Do I detect a rising tide of resentment in this country?
If I do, IT'S ABOUT BLOODY TIME.
Not sorry for shouting.
I suppose there's a bit of envy attached to this, but a couple of days ago, I was watching a re-run of an episode of 'Escape To The Country'. This time it was an Asian couple. The people looking to move state at the start of the programme how much they have to spend. Normally it's about 3 - 500 grand. Not this pair, they had a MILLION pounds to spend without having to sell their existing property. And bloody hell, the woman wasn't half snooty, she dissed just about every property she was shown.
Made me wonder what sort of life they would be leading if they were back in their native country.
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it wont be long before we have a muslim prime minister,not because hes earned the job but because its felt we have to have one so as not to be racist.ive always said when in rome but all these foreigners have never arrived here with the intention of integrateing and following our laws and rules they have no respect for our ways and are like locusts just sapping the country dry and god knows where they will go after theyve turned england into lebanon.i was once told that in the koran it states you shall not rest until all the world is converted to allah and tbh i cant say whether it does or doesnt cos im not dirtying my fingers on picking up a copy to read it cos i a book that so many follow and so many people feel its right to strap a bomb to yourself and go kill many people isnt worth a look.i dont claim to know all about religion but i do know church of england isnt brown and waveing guns about while wearing a tea towel round its head....but for how long
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Sorry about my ranting on here people. I'm not normally like this, but I've watched the country go so far down the toilet, I despair.
It won't affect me because I'm old now, but I do worry for my kids and grandkids.
Regarding the woman who unleashed a volley of abuse on the tube train, and ended up on YouTube, was she just saying publicly what an awful lot of us think privately? I think so. She doesn't live far from me, actually.
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I agree with the sentiments expressed, the overiding factor for me is that racism etc is always a one way steet. If you are white, straight and British then you can't say this or that incase you upset some minority. The problem is that it is a two way street if a person belonging to a minority group offends us (Verbal abuse in their own language or burning our Flag) then nothing happens. This has to stop, all nationalities or of ethnic origin can be racist yet nothing is done about it.
I often wonder if the problems are more acute in the pockets of high immigration, the old northern mill towns, Luton etc to cause more resentment. If you live somewhere that doesn't have a problem with Muslims then it isn't a problem and you don't see things the same way.
Two giants bats came into our local CoOp the other week and all they got were stares and giggles, but the thing that upset the customers, who all said the same thing was that if I came shopping in a crash helmet, or covered in a scarf then you wouldn't serve me until I removed the head covering then why do you serve these people? It is one rule for one and one for another which upsets people. This is England and as already been stated " When In Rome"
All nationalities, religions and creeds are welcome, just adopt our lanuage, our cutoms and obey our laws. If you don't like the way we do things then don't try to change us, or offend us just feak off somewhere that is more to your liking. We must remember alot of immigants over the last century have made a great contribution to this country and adopted our way of life. We have given sanctury to many peoples and have been rewarded in return by their hard work and gratitude.
I am afraid that today this does not seem to be the case and unless things change then there will be massive problems even down to taking to the streets in the areas mentioned above, if our politicians carry on ignoring these issues with their ineptitute to face and tackle the problem head on. :(
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Appeasement:
"An appeaser is one who feeds the crocodile hoping it will eat him last."
Islam:
"What the horn is to the rhinoceros, what the sting is to the wasp, the Mohammadan faith is to the Arabs."
Taxation:
"We contend that for a nation to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle."
"There is no such thing as a good tax."
Regulation:
"If you have ten thousand regulations, you destroy all respect for the law."
Socialism:
"Socialism is inseparably interwoven with totalitarianism and the abject worship of the State."
"Government of the duds, by the duds, and for the duds."
"No socialist system can be established without a political police."
"Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy."
"'All men are created equal' says the American Declaration of Independence. 'All men shall be kept equal' say the Socialists."
"Some see private enterprise as a predatory animal to be shot, others look on it as a cow to be milked but a few see it as a sturdy horse pulling a wagon."
"If you destroy a free market, you create a black market."
"The vice of capitalism is that it stands for the unequal sharing of blessings; whereas the virtue of socialism is that it stands for the equal sharing of misery."
All quotations from the great man himself Winston Churchill. :y :y :y As he is turning over in his grave, I wonder what he would make of the EU and today's Britain? :o :o :o
Where is his modern equal in our hour of need?
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Where is his modern equal in our hour of need?
Well he isn't his equal by a long long way but I think the best we have got curiously is Hollande!! He might just steer us out of the current situation where the banks are sorted but the rest of us have to pay and pay and pay for years to come.
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If it comes down to relying on a socialist French
surrender monkey politician to save the UK, then all I can say is God help us. :o :o :o :o :o
Once he is reminded on the French economic and bank's position and their support from Germany by Frau Merkel, he will be going yap, yap, begging for any scraps he can get from the German economic table. :-[ :-[
Rumour has it that when Sarkozy was asked during the election why he had so many finance meeting with Merkel the reply was:
A: The air miles, the state dinners and Frau Merkel's low tops and big..... economic power, ou la, la. (DD Jealous ;D ;D)
Q: What sort of things did you discuss?
A: I set my eyes and thoughts on the Big...... Economic questions of the day. (DD More Jealous ;D ;D)
Q: Can you be more specific on what you discussed?
A: Yes, economical thing-a-me-bobs.
Q: Can you give us a example?
A: You know, the sort of things discussed at economical meetings.
Q: What format did the meetings normally follow?
A: Well, I would present my special advisers paper, Frau Merkel would consider it and then decide what we will do, I agree, so she leans forward, ou, la, la, and gives me the promised cream biscuit with my coffee for being a good boy. She then tells her advisers to write a joint press release to keep the markets happy. At this point I am confused, why do we need to keep the French markets happy, why are they not happy selling their fruit, vegetables and fromarge?
Q: In Paris where the streets a filthy, why do you have to dodge the dogs poo when going round a market?
A: Parisian markets are the best in the world, the sights, the BO smells and the squelching of the dogs merde, then ou, la, la, buying the French fromarge.
Q: And what is your favourite cheese?
A: During the summer, I always buy the one with the least flies on it.
;D ;D ;D
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I suppose there's a bit of envy attached to this, but a couple of days ago, I was watching a re-run of an episode of 'Escape To The Country'. This time it was an Asian couple. The people looking to move state at the start of the programme how much they have to spend. Normally it's about 3 - 500 grand. Not this pair, they had a MILLION pounds to spend without having to sell their existing property. And bloody hell, the woman wasn't half snooty, she dissed just about every property she was shown.
Made me wonder what sort of life they would be leading if they were back in their native country.
Pretty reasonable I would think. If someone has the talent/skill to make that much of money, then it doesnt matter what country or religion they belong to. They will do well in life. You may also be surprised to find that the lifestyle led by the rich in various developing countries are very often more flamboyant that they could enjoy in this country. Last time I went on a trip to India, there were more Bentleys/Rolls/Ferrari's than you could see in W1.
If I had a million pounds to spend, then I would be very selective too. Nothing wrong with that. Just because you are well off does not mean you need to accept the first thing that a TV show offers to you. Being rich does not take away your right to choose or to say no!
The above post is just one of pure envy along with the fact that the person who was better off wasnt one who looked like you. Would you make the same comment if that was a white woman from ROI?
Dont confuse race/colour/religion with despicable acts. They are despicable despite what colour skin the perpetator has. And punishment should not be mitigated based on the colour of skin or religion. Therein lies the problem with this country as it seems more interested in appearing politically correct than looking after itself and its interests.
If I get into my right wing mode, then I could go on and on. For eg: why does the UK offer asylum whilst the middle east doesnt? Should we continue to offer asylum seekers a place to live in?
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I suppose there's a bit of envy attached to this, but a couple of days ago, I was watching a re-run of an episode of 'Escape To The Country'. This time it was an Asian couple. The people looking to move state at the start of the programme how much they have to spend. Normally it's about 3 - 500 grand. Not this pair, they had a MILLION pounds to spend without having to sell their existing property. And bloody hell, the woman wasn't half snooty, she dissed just about every property she was shown.
Made me wonder what sort of life they would be leading if they were back in their native country.
Pretty reasonable I would think. If someone has the talent/skill to make that much of money, then it doesnt matter what country or religion they belong to. They will do well in life. You may also be surprised to find that the lifestyle led by the rich in various developing countries are very often more flamboyant that they could enjoy in this country. Last time I went on a trip to India, there were more Bentleys/Rolls/Ferrari's than you could see in W1.
If I had a million pounds to spend, then I would be very selective too. Nothing wrong with that. Just because you are well off does not mean you need to accept the first thing that a TV show offers to you. Being rich does not take away your right to choose or to say no!
The above post is just one of pure envy along with the fact that the person who was better off wasnt one who looked like you. Would you make the same comment if that was a white woman from ROI?
Dont confuse race/colour/religion with despicable acts. They are despicable despite what colour skin the perpetator has. And punishment should not be mitigated based on the colour of skin or religion. Therein lies the problem with this country as it seems more interested in appearing politically correct than looking after itself and its interests.
If I get into my right wing mode, then I could go on and on. For eg: why does the UK offer asylum whilst the middle east doesnt? Should we continue to offer asylum seekers a place to live in?
Yes, a splendid post D. :y I think the following sums things up rather nicely;
Dont confuse race/colour/religion with despicable acts. They are despicable despite what colour skin the perpetator has. And punishment should not be mitigated based on the colour of skin or religion. Therein lies the problem with this country as it seems more interested in appearing politically correct than looking after itself and its interests.
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Sorry, but it still doesn't sit well with me.
We'll have to agree to disagree.
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Sorry about my ranting on here people. I'm not normally like this, but I've watched the country go so far down the toilet, I despair.
It won't affect me because I'm old now, but I do worry for my kids and grandkids.
Regarding the woman who unleashed a volley of abuse on the tube train, and ended up on YouTube, was she just saying publicly what an awful lot of us think privately? I think so. She doesn't live far from me, actually.
To be more accurate, I would be happy to completely disagree with you if your thought process is the same as the above woman's.
That volley of abuse would only be correct if the entire white population was hard working, honest and not living off benefits; whilst the entire non white population are a bunch of scroungers living off the state and driving the country down the toilet as you state. Come work in my hospital (central London) and you will find that the large majority of drunk teens/chronic alcoholics/non working chronic healthcare seekers are in fact quite white and very British. The coloured immigrants are either working hard at cleaning the hospital or driving taxis at night. So attributing all of the downfall to just the immigrant population is a very lop sided approach to solving the problem.
There are also a lot of hard-working coloured people who do a very good job, pay their taxes and do no wrong and actually contribute to the economy. Just as there are a lot of white British folk who choose not to work, claim benefits, drink, steal and vandalise our cars.
I suspect its sentiments like yours that cause the politicians to overcompensate in their action to prove that there isn't an undercurrent of racism.
The OP was about mitigating sentences due to ethnicity/colour. You seemed to have taken it one step further to "kick all the coloured bastar** out of this country, they are driving us down the toilet".
I strongly disagree with that!
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Ok.
Be a boring world if we all thought the same.
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Sorry about my ranting on here people. I'm not normally like this, but I've watched the country go so far down the toilet, I despair.
It won't affect me because I'm old now, but I do worry for my kids and grandkids.
Regarding the woman who unleashed a volley of abuse on the tube train, and ended up on YouTube, was she just saying publicly what an awful lot of us think privately? I think so. She doesn't live far from me, actually.
To be more accurate, I would be happy to completely disagree with you if your thought process is the same as the above woman's.
That volley of abuse would only be correct if the entire white population was hard working, honest and not living off benefits; whilst the entire non white population are a bunch of scroungers living off the state and driving the country down the toilet as you state. Come work in my hospital (central London) and you will find that the large majority of drunk teens/chronic alcoholics/non working chronic healthcare seekers are in fact quite white and very British. The coloured immigrants are either working hard at cleaning the hospital or driving taxis at night. So attributing all of the downfall to just the immigrant population is a very lop sided approach to solving the problem.
There are also a lot of hard-working coloured people who do a very good job, pay their taxes and do no wrong and actually contribute to the economy. Just as there are a lot of white British folk who choose not to work, claim benefits, drink, steal and vandalise our cars.
I suspect its sentiments like yours that cause the politicians to overcompensate in their action to prove that there isn't an undercurrent of racism.
The OP was about mitigating sentences due to ethnicity/colour. You seemed to have taken it one step further to "kick all the coloured bastar** out of this country, they are driving us down the toilet".I strongly disagree with that!
Wouldn't do us much harm not that I agree with it, but each to their own opinion. I would make certain that anyone guilty of any crime was sentenced to punish them and give thought to the victims.
Gun crime ... Black
Gangs..........Black
Terrorism......Muslim
Grooming......Muslim
Major crime...White
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To redress some balance of thought:
Raoul Moat (gun crime) - ??? Black
Liverpool gangs - ??? Black
Punishment by crime, not by ethnicity. That's the way forward.
In the terrible case mentioned in the OP, the punishment should have been stricter/longer. My 2p.
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To redress some balance of thought:
Raoul Moat (gun crime) - ??? Black
Liverpool gangs - ??? Black
Punishment by crime, not by ethnicity. That's the way forward. In the terrible case mentioned in the OP, the punishment should have been stricter/longer. My 2p.
Agreed :y
I was talking in the majority not the odd case
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Trevor Phillips, chairman of the Equality and Human Rights Commission says:
“Anybody who says that the fact that most of the men are Asian and most of the children are white is not relevant – that's just fatuous".
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9263050/Claiming-Rochdale-grooming-not-about-race-is-fatuous-Trevor-Phillips.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9263050/Claiming-Rochdale-grooming-not-about-race-is-fatuous-Trevor-Phillips.html)
It is also interesting what he has to say about "multiculturalism" on wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trevor_Phillips (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trevor_Phillips)
He's not afraid to speak his mind :y and he seems more right to me :y than our weak weasel worded politicians.
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Doubtless I have my own prejudices but I dont see mysef as racist/sexist/ageist etc and I do believe in fairness and equal opportunites. What I do recognize with every passing year however is the fact that I seem to be slowly turning into a Victor Meldrew style old git with increasing tendancies towards more concervative (small C !!)/ right wing views. Was it Churchill who pointed out that liberal attitudes were something only youth could afford? Been recently re- reading PC Copperfield and Inspector Gadget and -whilst I may not agree with all their arguments-feel that only a fool could argue that laws re HASAW and Equality and Diversity (not to mention Human Rights !) have not now gone too far. Its almost as if the agencies involved have done the hard bit and addressed the original issues and are now actively seeking ever new "breaches" (real or otherwise) rather than concentrating on continued policing of the key issues. Could this be purely to keep themselves and their little empires in a job rather than tackling genuine problems? Surely there must be a backlash to all this nannystate/politically correct/blame culture at some point? It would be nice if STMO was right and we could influence our MPs but I sadly doubt it. I know that the mantra of "dont just bitch about it-do something about it" is true but I really am quite cynical now when it comes to politics and the individual citizens ability to influence them whatever party is concerned. Gordon Brown's infamous comment over the lady who asked him about immigration seems typical when it comes to the arrogance of those in power and how they know best. Certainly seems to me that none of our "main" parties are really in touch with how the vast majority of the population feels :(