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Title: Wheel stuck on
Post by: mikesomega on 23 May 2012, 13:29:26
Help my wheel is stuck. Taken off 4 bolts and special key bolt. Surely that's all I need to do?

Won't budge
Title: Re: Wheel stuck on
Post by: YZ250 on 23 May 2012, 13:54:36
Make sure it is properly supported then, using something like a lump hammer, hit the tyre from the inside, turn the wheel, hit it, turn the wheel and hit it until it comes off. You can use a bit of wood flat against the tyre to protect the tyre/wheel.
Put a bit of copper slip around the mating hub area before refitting.  :y

I must emphasise safety here. You are leaning under the car to do this so please make sure the car is fully supported.
Title: Re: Wheel stuck on
Post by: Nick W on 23 May 2012, 14:16:15
If you can get your hands on a 2 or 3 foot length of 4x2, then you can dispense with both the hammer and the block of wood. You can also get a decent swing on iy without being too far under the car.
Title: Re: Wheel stuck on
Post by: Andy B on 23 May 2012, 14:28:20
BE VERY CAREFUL WITH THIS METHOD.
Refit the four proper bolts but leave them a turn slack. Move the car a few feet & stand on the brakes. Obviously in just a few feet you can't go fast, but the weight of the car when you slam on will break the wheel free from the hub. Wire brush the hub, especially the centre, clean the mating face of the wheel,especially the hole in the middle. Apply a smear of copperslip to the mating surfaces (but don't tell GixerChris  ::))
Title: Re: Wheel stuck on
Post by: markrnorton on 23 May 2012, 15:50:11
BE VERY CAREFUL WITH THIS METHOD.
Refit the four proper bolts but leave them a turn slack. Move the car a few feet & stand on the brakes. Obviously in just a few feet you can't go fast, but the weight of the car when you slam on will break the wheel free from the hub. Wire brush the hub, especially the centre, clean the mating face of the wheel,especially the hole in the middle. Apply a smear of copperslip to the mating surfaces (but don't tell GixerChris  ::))

you might be able to break the 'seal' from wheel to hub by just turning lock to lock with the wheel nuts backed off a fraction
Not sure about the 'standing on the brakes' bit  :o
Title: Re: Wheel stuck on
Post by: Andy B on 23 May 2012, 16:04:04
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Not sure about the 'standing on the brakes' bit  :o

It does work, I've done it a couple of times. Independantly, others here have done the same  :y  :y
Title: Re: Wheel stuck on
Post by: mantahatch on 23 May 2012, 16:20:09
Lie flat on your back with your legs in the air (oh err) next to offending wheel. Now in rapid succesion kick each side of wheel as hard as you can.

Not recommended at the roadside but does keep your entire body out of harms way. Oh and make sure you are fit enough  ;D
Title: Re: Wheel stuck on
Post by: taytuz on 23 May 2012, 18:31:44
Had the same problem with mine last week ended up spraying plenty of plus gas around mating faces and spent ten minutes with a rubber mallet to shift em.  :y
Title: Re: Wheel stuck on
Post by: dbug on 23 May 2012, 21:43:12
If you can get your hands on a 2 or 3 foot length of 4x2, then you can dispense with both the hammer and the block of wood. You can also get a decent swing on iy without being too far under the car.

Needed a 4' length of 4" x 4" and a sledge hammer to remove my rear ones when I first got my Elite.
As said when they are off, good clean with a wire brush and copperslip contact areas before refiting wheel (apologies to Chris for mentioning "copperslip")  :y
Title: Re: Wheel stuck on
Post by: TheBoy on 23 May 2012, 22:23:04
Not sure about the 'standing on the brakes' bit  :o
A tried and tested technique :y
Title: Re: Wheel stuck on
Post by: Brikhead on 23 May 2012, 23:02:19
Safest way (just gotta watch the rebound) is to use the spare wheel to knock off the seized alloy...
Title: Re: Wheel stuck on
Post by: scoot3603 on 23 May 2012, 23:09:19
Lie flat on your back with your legs in the air (oh err) next to offending wheel. Now in rapid succesion kick each side of wheel as hard as you can.

Not recommended at the roadside but does keep your entire body out of harms way. Oh and make sure you are fit enough  ;D

Go with this one or plastic mallet either side off the wheel rim not the tyre, you might be a tad p'eed off if you have a weak seal of tyre to wheel and end up having to go kwikfit after loosing pressure.
Title: Re: Wheel stuck on
Post by: twiglet on 23 May 2012, 23:11:51
I have used both the lock-to-lock method and the stand-on-the-brakes method in the past successfully.  Obviously, caution and common sense is required when doing something like this.

I never have a problem with the wheels getting stuck on my car, but that's probably because I take them off once a fortnight to clean them!  ;D
Title: Re: Wheel stuck on
Post by: markrnorton on 24 May 2012, 11:24:32
Not sure about the 'standing on the brakes' bit  :o
A tried and tested technique :y

Just sounded scarey !
Title: Re: Wheel stuck on
Post by: twiglet on 24 May 2012, 12:45:10
You think that's scary?  You should see Albs remove a tyre from a rim using a length of 3"x3" and a transit van!!  :o ;D
Title: Re: Wheel stuck on
Post by: GmasterT on 24 May 2012, 19:33:32
Kick the shit out of one side, rotate, repeat untill wheel lands on foot :D
Title: Re: Wheel stuck on
Post by: scoot3603 on 24 May 2012, 19:57:56
Kick the shit out of one side, rotate, repeat untill wheel lands on foot :D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wheel stuck on
Post by: Steve B on 24 May 2012, 20:00:07
its been 36 hours he must have it off ;D
Title: Re: Wheel stuck on
Post by: TheBoy on 24 May 2012, 23:17:02
Not sure about the 'standing on the brakes' bit  :o
A tried and tested technique :y

Just sounded scarey !
In the past, with 2 stuck rears, I've had to REMOVE all bolts, and try to get 220bhp through them. Never fails to release, though not unknown for the wheel to fall off, which is somewhat embarrassing ;D
Title: Re: Wheel stuck on
Post by: mikesomega on 27 May 2012, 11:12:46
I have one off, but the other back one isn't moving. I worried if I force it any more, the car will fall off the stand. I've squirted WD40 all  over the wheel to hub join, so will try later when the sun cools
Title: Re: Wheel stuck on
Post by: RobG on 27 May 2012, 11:37:03
I have one off, but the other back one isn't moving. I worried if I force it any more, the car will fall off the stand. I've squirted WD40 all  over the wheel to hub join, so will try later when the sun cools
May`s well get a dog to lift his leg on it for all the good that`ll do. Need "Plusgas" or similar
Title: Re: Wheel stuck on
Post by: TheBoy on 27 May 2012, 12:39:22
I have one off, but the other back one isn't moving. I worried if I force it any more, the car will fall off the stand. I've squirted WD40 all  over the wheel to hub join, so will try later when the sun cools
May`s well get a dog to lift his leg on it for all the good that`ll do. Need "Plusgas" or similar
wd40 isn't too bad if allowed to soak in. plusgas seems to be better for quicker release.

However, in this case, I think neither will do much ;D
Title: Re: Wheel stuck on
Post by: dbug on 27 May 2012, 17:57:35
I have one off, but the other back one isn't moving. I worried if I force it any more, the car will fall off the stand. I've squirted WD40 all  over the wheel to hub join, so will try later when the sun cools
May`s well get a dog to lift his leg on it for all the good that`ll do. Need "Plusgas" or similar

WD40 is a water repellant with lubricating properties, Plusgas is for removing rusted parts (attacks rust)  ;)
Title: Re: Wheel stuck on
Post by: mikesomega on 27 May 2012, 18:18:45
Oh! In the old days WD40 was used for freeing stuck things.

I will give it another go to get it off later now its cooling down although 3 cans of Carling in this sun maybe I shouldnt.

If I give up, where should I take it? Kwikfit? Vauxhall? Little Garage?

Title: Re: Wheel stuck on
Post by: dbug on 27 May 2012, 19:31:43
Oh! In the old days WD40 was used for freeing stuck things.

I will give it another go to get it off later now its cooling down although 3 cans of Carling in this sun maybe I shouldnt.

If I give up, where should I take it? Kwikfit? Vauxhall? Little Garage?

In the absence of Plusgas, try Coca Cola (no joke used to use it years ago to free anything rusted - probably shows my age!)
 ;)
Title: Re: Wheel stuck on
Post by: Nick W on 27 May 2012, 20:23:28
The only thing that works when the wheel is that badly 'corroded' to the hub is to beat it off from the back.
How you do that without damaging the wheel is up to you. Do ensure that it's properly secured on a stand before doing anything.
Title: Re: Wheel stuck on
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 27 May 2012, 20:49:48
Oh! In the old days WD40 was used for freeing stuck things.

I will give it another go to get it off later now its cooling down although 3 cans of Carling in this sun maybe I shouldnt.

If I give up, where should I take it? Kwikfit? Vauxhall? Little Garage?
only thing with that they charge i had a quote for ten pound a wheel i told them to go away >:( >:(
Title: Re: Wheel stuck on
Post by: dbug on 27 May 2012, 21:03:08
The only thing that works when the wheel is that badly 'corroded' to the hub is to beat it off from the back.
How you do that without damaging the wheel is up to you. Do ensure that it's properly secured on a stand before doing anything.

Agreed just be brutal yet safe ;)
Title: Re: Wheel stuck on
Post by: Andy B on 27 May 2012, 21:12:07
The only thing that works when the wheel is that badly 'corroded' to the hub is to beat it off from the back[/highlight......

apart from loosening the wheel bolts and slamming on hard on the drive .......  ::) ::) ::) ::)

and no possibility of damaging the back of the rim  :y :y :y