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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: RobG on 01 June 2012, 11:34:52

Title: NCDC2013 query
Post by: RobG on 01 June 2012, 11:34:52
Inserted an empty cartridge and it doesn`t eject, no noises heard when button is pressed. Had fascia off and took some pics.
Can someone confirm that the button highlighted in first 2 pics "energises" the eject mechanism
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z257/belisensis/P1040924.jpg)
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z257/belisensis/P1040923.jpg)
As you can see in this pic, when "eject" is pressed flap opens and makes contact with this button but no ejection. Any ideas :-\
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z257/belisensis/P1040926.jpg)
Title: Re: NCDC2013 query
Post by: mathewst on 01 June 2012, 11:43:49
Can't see much but are the lines leading to the switch dammaged(Two lines on the board with something white on them)?
Title: Re: NCDC2013 query
Post by: TheBoy on 01 June 2012, 12:01:35
The circled bit is the 'Flap open' switch.

The eject is a standard switch under the eject button (other side of board)
Title: Re: NCDC2013 query
Post by: RobG on 01 June 2012, 12:07:07
The circled bit is the 'Flap open' switch.

The eject is a standard switch under the eject button (other side of board)
Board removal jobbie then :-\
Title: Re: NCDC2013 query
Post by: TheBoy on 01 June 2012, 15:25:04
The circled bit is the 'Flap open' switch.

The eject is a standard switch under the eject button (other side of board)
Board removal jobbie then :-\
The clips holding the facia to main unit look a bit naff. Just try it again, ensuring the facia connector makes good connection.
Title: Re: NCDC2013 query
Post by: RobG on 01 June 2012, 15:59:16
The circled bit is the 'Flap open' switch.

The eject is a standard switch under the eject button (other side of board)
Board removal jobbie then :-\
The clips holding the facia to main unit look a bit naff. Just try it again, ensuring the facia connector makes good connection.
All clips are in excellent nick except one on the side that is held with a screw :P ;D
Title: Re: NCDC2013 query
Post by: TheBoy on 01 June 2012, 16:01:36
The circled bit is the 'Flap open' switch.

The eject is a standard switch under the eject button (other side of board)
Board removal jobbie then :-\
The clips holding the facia to main unit look a bit naff. Just try it again, ensuring the facia connector makes good connection.
All clips are in excellent nick except one on the side that is held with a screw :P ;D
Ah, not easy to tell from pic - it looked like both centre clips were broken...
Title: Re: NCDC2013 query
Post by: RobG on 01 June 2012, 16:07:19
The circled bit is the 'Flap open' switch.

The eject is a standard switch under the eject button (other side of board)
Board removal jobbie then :-\
The clips holding the facia to main unit look a bit naff. Just try it again, ensuring the facia connector makes good connection.
All clips are in excellent nick except one on the side that is held with a screw :P ;D
Ah, not easy to tell from pic - it looked like both centre clips were broken...
:) Any ideas then bearing in mind I`ve tried another CDC and that won`t eject either
Title: Re: NCDC2013 query
Post by: TheBoy on 01 June 2012, 16:08:49
You'll have to investigate switch then :)
Title: Re: NCDC2013 query
Post by: TheBoy on 01 June 2012, 16:09:35
Is this the one that was tested with no screen attached, but is paired to one?  That might be adding a complication ;)
Title: Re: NCDC2013 query
Post by: RobG on 01 June 2012, 16:11:49
Is this the one that was tested with no screen attached, but is paired to one?  That might be adding a complication ;)
Certainly is. According to Andy (VXLV6) cartridge should eject when HU is powered up regardless whether display is present or not.
Just the screws holding the board on :-\ :-\
Title: Re: NCDC2013 query
Post by: VXL V6 on 01 June 2012, 19:01:04
Only point to note is the Head unit may need to be powered up for a minute before you can eject. I know when the units start up the Nav drive does various scans and seeks and you can't eject the disk until this is has completed, the multi changer usually does a scan of the discs in the cartridge IIRC.... this is of course assuming that the CDC3 knows it has a cartridge loaded....
Title: Re: NCDC2013 query
Post by: RobG on 01 June 2012, 19:24:19
Only point to note is the Head unit may need to be powered up for a minute before you can eject. I know when the units start up the Nav drive does various scans and seeks and you can't eject the disk until this is has completed, the multi changer usually does a scan of the discs in the cartridge IIRC.... this is of course assuming that the CDC3 knows it has a cartridge loaded....
No problem ejecting from nav slot. CDC knows there`s a cartridge in, can hear it scanning for discs, problem being it won`t eject
Title: Re: NCDC2013 query
Post by: VXL V6 on 01 June 2012, 21:30:55
Only point to note is the Head unit may need to be powered up for a minute before you can eject. I know when the units start up the Nav drive does various scans and seeks and you can't eject the disk until this is has completed, the multi changer usually does a scan of the discs in the cartridge IIRC.... this is of course assuming that the CDC3 knows it has a cartridge loaded....
No problem ejecting from nav slot. CDC knows there`s a cartridge in, can hear it scanning for discs, problem being it won`t eject
Is the cartridge ok? the screws tend to loosen on them and they then jam in the mechanism.

There is a method of winding the CDC mechanism to eject the cartridge manually but it's really easy to wind to far and then your in a whole world of pain to try and get the mechanism back!

I still think the issue is that the unit isn't getting a signal from the eject switch.
Title: Re: NCDC2013 query
Post by: RobG on 01 June 2012, 21:33:19
Only point to note is the Head unit may need to be powered up for a minute before you can eject. I know when the units start up the Nav drive does various scans and seeks and you can't eject the disk until this is has completed, the multi changer usually does a scan of the discs in the cartridge IIRC.... this is of course assuming that the CDC3 knows it has a cartridge loaded....
No problem ejecting from nav slot. CDC knows there`s a cartridge in, can hear it scanning for discs, problem being it won`t eject
Is the cartridge ok? the screws tend to loosen on them and they then jam in the mechanism.

There is a method of winding the CDC mechanism to eject the cartridge manually but it's really easy to wind to far and then your in a whole world of pain to try and get the mechanism back!

I still think the issue is that the unit isn't getting a signal from the eject switch.
Tried 2 cartridges.
Fascia off & remove board jobbie is it. :-\ Alright if you know what you`re looking for ;D ;D ::) :-[
Title: Re: NCDC2013 query
Post by: TheBoy on 02 June 2012, 11:11:02
Knowing a bit of background, when you swapped the cdc3 over, did you have original ncdc vertical board in?
Title: Re: NCDC2013 query
Post by: RobG on 02 June 2012, 11:49:01
Knowing a bit of background, when you swapped the cdc3 over, did you have original ncdc vertical board in?
Of course Mr. TB ::) ;D :-*