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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: Varche on 07 June 2012, 08:51:50
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I needed yet more unleaded for my chainsaw. Went to a different petrol station and out came the attendant.
Nice petrol can but it is made of metal. Can't (but will this once) let you put petrol in it!! next time you need a plastic can. A spark between filler nozzle and can could ignite fuel. Seemed reasonable enough.
I guess the law was changed at some time. I have had this green gallon Paddy Hopkirk can since 1972 I think. I remember buying it from Epic Accessories in Leicester so I have had my monies worth. I guess now it will have to go to a museum. ;D ;D I wonder if a plastic one will last the same length of time?
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Still no issues with metal cans over here... I use them all the time :y
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I needed yet more unleaded for my chainsaw. Went to a different petrol station and out came the attendant.
Nice petrol can but it is made of metal. Can't (but will this once) let you put petrol in it!! next time you need a plastic can. A spark between filler nozzle and can could ignite fuel. Seemed reasonable enough.I guess the law was changed at some time. I have had this green gallon Paddy Hopkirk can since 1972 I think. I remember buying it from Epic Accessories in Leicester so I have had my monies worth. I guess now it will have to go to a museum. ;D ;D I wonder if a plastic one will last the same length of time?
Hmmmm, what about a spark between the filler nozzle and the pipe on your petrol tamk in a car. Last time I checked they are all metal. Maybe a bit insulated, but after a few years of road dirt on them must be the same I would have thought. And no tyres will not insulate the car contrary to popular belief.
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my metal can ended up self draining, so now use green for unleaded and diesel.
theoretically a spark will light the petrol , - but it all comes down to the fire triangle- ignition source, fuel, air -- so the vapour will have to be within its flaamability limits ( ruffly 4-9%- will chack later -as I'm supposed to know these things!),
having said that petrol tankers earth before transferring,
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Utter bollacts! ....ahem...
Surely that can't be right? :-X
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As someone said on another thread. Everytime you start your car there is a spark.
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If they think it's that much of an issue why don't they provide an earthing wire to connect before filling?
(as is the case when refuelling aircraft)
As said, if it's an issue with a can, it's much more of an issue with a car which, being larger, will store a much greater charge. ;D
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We regularly fill up the green metal jerry can for the MotoX bike. Nobody has ever said anything to us. :-\
Actually, during the run up to the petrol strike, I saw loads of people on the news using the old jerry cans. :-\
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Indeed. Been using them for years on track days.
In fact, I'd still say they are dangerous to use. But due to expansion and over filling, and spilages caused, rather than a spark.
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We regularly fill up the green metal jerry can for the MotoX bike. Nobody has ever said anything to us. :-\
Actually, during the run up to the petrol strike, I saw loads of people on the news using the old jerry cans. :-\
But were you doing it in Spain? ;)
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We regularly fill up the green metal jerry can for the MotoX bike. Nobody has ever said anything to us. :-\
Actually, during the run up to the petrol strike, I saw loads of people on the news using the old jerry cans. :-\
But were you doing it in Spain? ;)
Errrrr.................no. ;) ;D ;D Perhaps they are stricter over there, so fair point. :y Obviously with the seriousness involved, this is not something to take lightly.
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Strange, as the Spanish are very laid back but here a lot of people buy small quantities of fuel at stations for generators and small farm machinery and so on. Presumably they have had spectacular accicdents in the past. Hence having some legislation. I dare say if they had an accident it might have been something other than a spark, ciggy maybe.? Mind you when we were kids our older neighbours party trick was to throw his tab end into his BSA500 petrol tank as he sat on the bike. It never once exploded. ;D
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Strange, as the Spanish are very laid back but here a lot of people buy small quantities of fuel at stations for generators and small farm machinery and so on. Presumably they have had spectacular accicdents in the past. Hence having some legislation. I dare say if they had an accident it might have been something other than a spark, ciggy maybe.? Mind you when we were kids our older neighbours party trick was to throw his tab end into his BSA500 petrol tank as he sat on the bike. It never once exploded. ;D
It is no trick, a lit cigarette is not hot enough to ignite petrol vapour, now the match or lighter is hot enough ;D Think that is why they say no smoking around fuel. Because average human can't tell the difference.
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And making the light alloy (aluminium?) nozzle to spark :-\ No way.
The material of the nozzles is for sure some non-sparking material so no matter what material your tank/container/whatever is there will not be any issues :y
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I did wonder... Given the old fashioned self service... That an old fashioned steel nozel might be in use...?
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I aways thought the nozzles were made of alloy to, I had brass or alloy couplings when i had to deliver flammables & an earth cable.
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I thought the rule was its allowed to be plastic if less than 5l, but larger must be metal :-\
In all cases, it must be designed and approved for the task.
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I thought the rule was its allowed to be plastic if less than 5l, but larger must be metal :-\
In all cases, it must be designed and approved for the task.
In this country, yes :y
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I thought the rule was its allowed to be plastic if less than 5l, but larger must be metal :-\
In all cases, it must be designed and approved for the task.
In this country, yes :y
Ah, my bad, didn't notice who the OP was. Bloody foreigners :P ;D
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I thought the rule was its allowed to be plastic if less than 5l, but larger must be metal :-\
In all cases, it must be designed and approved for the task.
In this country, yes :y
Ah, my bad, didn't notice who the OP was. Bloody foreigners :P ;D
yes and if I live here another 30 years I will still be a foreigner. ;D ;D
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very strange!!
got 3 jerry cans all metal, all used to buy 20 litres for the genny, never had an issue at any station?
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especially when you fill them up in spain just before traversing rip off france, they are a must!!! :y
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I can confirm that all Paddy Hopkirk petrol cans have alloy necks - I worked at the factory in Eaton Bray when I was a lot younger than I am now :)
Darren
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Must be just that filling station Varche, I regularly use my metal can for 10 litres in any of the 5 stations we use, never once been approached like that, mind you I'm normally unshaved, scruffy and wearing working clothes, a proper unsavoury looking character!!!LOL Graham, no comments from you either!!!
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Must be just that filling station Varche, I regularly use my metal can for 10 litres in any of the 5 stations we use, never once been approached like that, mind you I'm normally unshaved, scruffy and wearing working clothes, a proper unsavoury looking character!!!LOL Graham, no comments from you either!!!
lol how did you know i was going to????
damn spoilt me fun!!
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mind you I'm normally unshaved, scruffy and wearing working clothes, a proper unsavoury looking character!!!LOL Graham, no comments from you either!!!
Omegatoy can't comment, he's always like that as well ;D
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mind you I'm normally unshaved, scruffy and wearing working clothes, a proper unsavoury looking character!!!LOL Graham, no comments from you either!!!
Omegatoy can't comment, he's always like that as well ;D
BITCHY!!! ;D
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Must be just that filling station Varche, I regularly use my metal can for 10 litres in any of the 5 stations we use, never once been approached like that, mind you I'm normally unshaved, scruffy and wearing working clothes, a proper unsavoury looking character!!!LOL Graham, no comments from you either!!!
That's posh dress for spain IIRC .... :)
T-shirt, Shorts, flip-flops being "normal" ..... ? :)
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I needed yet more unleaded for my chainsaw. Went to a different petrol station and out came the attendant.
Nice petrol can but it is made of metal. Can't (but will this once) let you put petrol in it!! next time you need a plastic can. A spark between filler nozzle and can could ignite fuel. Seemed reasonable enough.
I guess the law was changed at some time. I have had this green gallon Paddy Hopkirk can since 1972 I think. I remember buying it from Epic Accessories in Leicester so I have had my monies worth. I guess now it will have to go to a museum. ;D ;D I wonder if a plastic one will last the same length of time?
Obviously pump attendant is having a week off from the Shell station at Brackley, as he is brain dead from the neck up. :o :o :o This gives the Government regulations which explains you can have a maximum of 2 metal and 2 plastic fuel storage containers with caps off next to your oven :-[ on your premises, but they must be outside your home.
http://www.hse.gov.uk/fireandexplosion/petroleum-faqs.htm (http://www.hse.gov.uk/fireandexplosion/petroleum-faqs.htm)
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I store my petrol in a Wheelie Bin in the basement. Then wonder why the bin's melted & there's petrol everywhere ;D ;D Doh ??? ???
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I needed yet more unleaded for my chainsaw. Went to a different petrol station and out came the attendant.
Nice petrol can but it is made of metal. Can't (but will this once) let you put petrol in it!! next time you need a plastic can. A spark between filler nozzle and can could ignite fuel. Seemed reasonable enough.
I guess the law was changed at some time. I have had this green gallon Paddy Hopkirk can since 1972 I think. I remember buying it from Epic Accessories in Leicester so I have had my monies worth. I guess now it will have to go to a museum. ;D ;D I wonder if a plastic one will last the same length of time?
Obviously pump attendant is having a week off from the Shell station at Brackley, as he is brain dead from the neck up. :o :o :o This gives the Government regulations which explains you can have a maximum of 2 metal and 2 plastic fuel storage containers with caps off next to your oven :-[ on your premises, but they must be outside your home.
http://www.hse.gov.uk/fireandexplosion/petroleum-faqs.htm (http://www.hse.gov.uk/fireandexplosion/petroleum-faqs.htm)
But when did our government regulations apply to Spain? ;)
I don't think they were ever a colony (despite the numbers of ex-pats hiding from the law living down there ;D)).. :)
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I needed yet more unleaded for my chainsaw. Went to a different petrol station and out came the attendant.
Nice petrol can but it is made of metal. Can't (but will this once) let you put petrol in it!! next time you need a plastic can. A spark between filler nozzle and can could ignite fuel. Seemed reasonable enough.
I guess the law was changed at some time. I have had this green gallon Paddy Hopkirk can since 1972 I think. I remember buying it from Epic Accessories in Leicester so I have had my monies worth. I guess now it will have to go to a museum. ;D ;D I wonder if a plastic one will last the same length of time?
Obviously pump attendant is having a week off from the Shell station at Brackley, as he is brain dead from the neck up. :o :o :o This gives the Government regulations which explains you can have a maximum of 2 metal and 2 plastic fuel storage containers with caps off next to your oven :-[ on your premises, but they must be outside your home.
http://www.hse.gov.uk/fireandexplosion/petroleum-faqs.htm (http://www.hse.gov.uk/fireandexplosion/petroleum-faqs.htm)
But when did our government regulations apply to Spain? ;)
I don't think they were ever a colony (despite the numbers of ex-pats hiding from the law living down there ;D)).. :)
Witness protection programme mate. You get a ruin so far from civilisation even the locals don't know you live there, a useless farm and an old Omega :y
Bootie - Did I see you outside Lidl the other day with a can? :o
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Lidl in Labuan? Yes!!! ;D
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Must be just that filling station Varche, I regularly use my metal can for 10 litres in any of the 5 stations we use, never once been approached like that, mind you I'm normally unshaved, scruffy and wearing working clothes, a proper unsavoury looking character!!!LOL Graham, no comments from you either!!!
That's posh dress for spain IIRC .... :)
T-shirt, Shorts, flip-flops being "normal" ..... ? :)
true but you forgot the silly hat!!! :y
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I needed yet more unleaded for my chainsaw. Went to a different petrol station and out came the attendant.
Nice petrol can but it is made of metal. Can't (but will this once) let you put petrol in it!! next time you need a plastic can. A spark between filler nozzle and can could ignite fuel. Seemed reasonable enough.
I guess the law was changed at some time. I have had this green gallon Paddy Hopkirk can since 1972 I think. I remember buying it from Epic Accessories in Leicester so I have had my monies worth. I guess now it will have to go to a museum. ;D ;D I wonder if a plastic one will last the same length of time?
Obviously pump attendant is having a week off from the Shell station at Brackley, as he is brain dead from the neck up. :o :o :o This gives the Government regulations which explains you can have a maximum of 2 metal and 2 plastic fuel storage containers with caps off next to your oven :-[ on your premises, but they must be outside your home.
http://www.hse.gov.uk/fireandexplosion/petroleum-faqs.htm (http://www.hse.gov.uk/fireandexplosion/petroleum-faqs.htm)
But when did our government regulations apply to Spain? ;)
I don't think they were ever a colony (despite the numbers of ex-pats hiding from the law living down there ;D)).. :)
Would have thought it would be covered by an EU Directive?
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I needed yet more unleaded for my chainsaw. Went to a different petrol station and out came the attendant.
Nice petrol can but it is made of metal. Can't (but will this once) let you put petrol in it!! next time you need a plastic can. A spark between filler nozzle and can could ignite fuel. Seemed reasonable enough.
I guess the law was changed at some time. I have had this green gallon Paddy Hopkirk can since 1972 I think. I remember buying it from Epic Accessories in Leicester so I have had my monies worth. I guess now it will have to go to a museum. ;D ;D I wonder if a plastic one will last the same length of time?
Obviously pump attendant is having a week off from the Shell station at Brackley, as he is brain dead from the neck up. :o :o :o This gives the Government regulations which explains you can have a maximum of 2 metal and 2 plastic fuel storage containers with caps off next to your oven :-[ on your premises, but they must be outside your home.
http://www.hse.gov.uk/fireandexplosion/petroleum-faqs.htm (http://www.hse.gov.uk/fireandexplosion/petroleum-faqs.htm)
But when did our government regulations apply to Spain? ;)
I don't think they were ever a colony (despite the numbers of ex-pats hiding from the law living down there ;D)).. :)
Would have thought it would be covered by an EU Directive?
Good point! Probably..