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Title: Modeling glue
Post by: omega3000 on 08 June 2012, 18:24:33
Does anyone know what substitute glue i can use on plastic model kits , i have a 1967 ford mustang to build ...been looking round most shops and cant find a suitable glue and no modeling shops near either . Super glue wont work or general purpose glue  :(
Title: Re: Modeling glue
Post by: trainmanone on 08 June 2012, 18:29:38
try deluxe materials plastic magic i use it on my model railway they have a websit if you serch it in gooooogal   :y
Title: Re: Modeling glue
Post by: omega3000 on 08 June 2012, 18:34:45
Modeling shops have all but disappeared around these parts , i think the glue needs to be polypropelene suitable ...too strong glue will just melt the plastic .....ill have a google for that
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deluxe materials plastic magic
hope its sold near by . I have some of that stuff that welds plastic pipes together if thats any good  :-\
Title: Re: Modeling glue
Post by: trainmanone on 08 June 2012, 18:39:21
or also humberol poly cement any online modle shp will stock it :y

dont use that pipe stuff 1you will be high as a kite
2you will have a blob of polystireen on you knee lol
Title: Re: Modeling glue
Post by: omega3000 on 08 June 2012, 18:42:52
or also humberol poly cement any online modle shp will stock it :y

I thought i could start it tonight with some glue substitute  :( nearest model shop is 20 miles away ...back in the box till i have the correct glue  :y

Just read the box and it said use only styrene cement ...
Title: Re: Modeling glue
Post by: CaptainZok on 08 June 2012, 19:19:24
You want polystyrene cement. Not the stringy crap in a tube, but the stuff that comes in a bottle. It actually melts the plastic a little bit to weld the parts together. Assemble parts dry and then apply a paintbrush dipped in the cement and capillary attraction draws it into the joint. Just remember it won't work on painted or plated parts unless you clean them back to plastic first.
Title: Re: Modeling glue
Post by: Tony H on 08 June 2012, 19:19:52
or also humberol poly cement any online modle shp will stock it :y

dont use that pipe stuff 1you will be high as a kite
2you will have a blob of polystireen on you knee lol

Nowt wrong with that  ::) ::) ::) ;)
Title: Re: Modeling glue
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 08 June 2012, 19:35:16
i used uhu glue that is a good one  :y :y
Title: Re: Modeling glue
Post by: martin42 on 08 June 2012, 19:38:40
why not use pattern glue  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Modeling glue
Post by: dbug on 08 June 2012, 19:40:07
Duct Tape - sticks anything  ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Modeling glue
Post by: omega3000 on 08 June 2012, 19:41:20
why not use pattern glue  ;D ;D
;D ;D

I have i just tried that pipe glue on a test piece and it worked but the room is full of fumes  :D

1st stage engine building then chassis  ;)
Title: Re: Modeling glue
Post by: martin42 on 08 June 2012, 19:46:50
solvent weld is ok,but do use in a well ventillated area,only down side for me is it doesnt do anything for me as i used it so much in the past in confined places  :D :D
Title: Re: Modeling glue
Post by: omega3000 on 08 June 2012, 19:51:22
solvent weld is ok,but do use in a well ventillated area,only down side for me is it doesnt do anything for me as i used it so much in the past in confined places  :D :D

Been a while since i used the proper glue but this polypipe glue smells just the same as the glue used years ago , ill prob be up all night looking like a rabbit in headlights  :o
Title: Re: Modeling glue
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 08 June 2012, 19:54:04
why not use pattern glue  ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Modeling glue
Post by: SIR Philbutt on 08 June 2012, 19:58:38
or also humberol poly cement any online modle shp will stock it :y

dont use that pipe stuff 1you will be high as a kite
2you will have a blob of polystireen on you knee lol

Nowt wrong with that  ::) ::) ::) ;)

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Title: Re: Modeling glue
Post by: 05omegav6 on 08 June 2012, 21:13:41
Used to use summat called plastic weld :y

Humbrol and Revell both sell polystyrene cement in a liquid for :y should be easily available at any toy shop :-\
Title: Re: Modeling glue
Post by: MaxV6 on 08 June 2012, 21:14:20
http://www.wonderlandmodels.com/products/humbrol-liquid-poly-28ml/
Title: Re: Modeling glue
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 08 June 2012, 21:15:55
Used to use summat called plastic weld :y

Humbrol and Revell both sell polystyrene cement in a liquid for :y should be easily available at any toy shop :-\
if you look in news agents some stock that :y :y
Title: Re: Modeling glue
Post by: CaptainZok on 08 June 2012, 21:30:54
http://www.wonderlandmodels.com/products/humbrol-liquid-poly-28ml/
That's the stuff Max.
Title: Re: Modeling glue
Post by: blackviper90210 on 08 June 2012, 22:01:27
I use this company for my model kit equipment:

http://www.modelzone.co.uk/

Not sure if any outlets are near you?



HTH's :y
Title: Re: Modeling glue
Post by: martin42 on 08 June 2012, 22:08:09
milton keynes is the nearest and im there every day  :D
Title: Re: Modeling glue
Post by: blackviper90210 on 08 June 2012, 22:27:22
MK was a great place in the 70's & 80's..... ::)
Title: Re: Modeling glue
Post by: Entwood on 08 June 2012, 22:29:27
MK was great place before roundabouts were invented, and it changed from a village to a "new town" ...  :(
Title: Re: Modeling glue
Post by: blackviper90210 on 08 June 2012, 22:31:49
MK was great place before roundabouts were invented, and it changed from a village to a "new town" ...  :(

Don't forget the concrete cows  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Modeling glue
Post by: Nick W on 09 June 2012, 00:07:41
Does anyone know what substitute glue i can use on plastic model kits , i have a 1967 ford mustang to build ...been looking round most shops and cant find a suitable glue and no modeling shops near either . Super glue wont work or general purpose glue  :(

Why won't superglue work? I haven't used anything else for years. Although I now have to buy it, rather than take it off the shelf at work, it's still the way to go. Get both thick, and runny glues(there are several grades in between as well), plus the activator. A light dusting of activator on one part, and a tiny smear of glue on the other, and it's as permanently stuck together as matters on a model. It's quick, cheap and easy. You can't use it on clear parts as it fogs them badly, but the traditional cement is no different.
Use a coating of thick glue, and a spritz of activator as filler. It goes off instantly, and sands similarly to the styrene of the kit. I've a 1/24 slotcar of a Rolls that has superglue filler 2mm thick in places(it was a very poor moulding and badly distorted), and that car hasn't suffered from several 20mph crashes!
Title: Re: Modeling glue
Post by: omega3000 on 09 June 2012, 12:39:17
Does anyone know what substitute glue i can use on plastic model kits , i have a 1967 ford mustang to build ...been looking round most shops and cant find a suitable glue and no modeling shops near either . Super glue wont work or general purpose glue  :(

Why won't superglue work? I haven't used anything else for years. Although I now have to buy it, rather than take it off the shelf at work, it's still the way to go. Get both thick, and runny glues(there are several grades in between as well), plus the activator. A light dusting of activator on one part, and a tiny smear of glue on the other, and it's as permanently stuck together as matters on a model. It's quick, cheap and easy. You can't use it on clear parts as it fogs them badly, but the traditional cement is no different.
Use a coating of thick glue, and a spritz of activator as filler. It goes off instantly, and sands similarly to the styrene of the kit. I've a 1/24 slotcar of a Rolls that has superglue filler 2mm thick in places(it was a very poor moulding and badly distorted), and that car hasn't suffered from several 20mph crashes!

Its not the named super glue brand im using so maybe thats the problem ? Cheapo pattern asda super glue but i glued a test piece and left it to dry for about an hour and it just prised apart easily . I thought super glue was an instant bond but its definatley not in this case ... similar for the polypipe as i thought that was ok but it wont bond , maybe i need the proper poly cement  :(
Title: Re: Modeling glue
Post by: Nick W on 09 June 2012, 12:47:00
Buy 'superglue' from a trade supplier. It will be better and cheaper. You need the activator, it's not optional. Or scrounge it from uPVC window fitters, it's what all the internal trims are stuck on with. I used to buy 1000 big bottles at a time!
Title: Re: Modeling glue
Post by: omega3000 on 09 June 2012, 12:51:22
Buy 'superglue' from a trade supplier. It will be better and cheaper. You need the activator, it's not optional. Or scrounge it from uPVC window fitters, it's what all the internal trims are stuck on with. I used to buy 1000 big bottles at a time!

Thanks for that i will see what i can find and get on with the mustang re-build  :y a lot of parts in this one that will keep me busy for a while ....i think ill be visiting the proper model shop as i need some paints , i bet they are not cheap nowadays . Only need red and black though  ;)
Title: Re: Modeling glue
Post by: Nick W on 09 June 2012, 13:01:35

Thanks for that i will see what i can find and get on with the mustang re-build  :y a lot of parts in this one that will keep me busy for a while ....i think ill be visiting the proper model shop as i need some paints , i bet they are not cheap nowadays . Only need red and black though  ;)

In the same vein, model enamel(like Humbrol) takes ages to go off, and is very difficult to get a decent finish. It's OK for small parts, and detailing but dreadful for bodies.
To do those, get a couple of cans of grey primer from your local pound shop. That's acrylic, and if you use a couple of very light coats first it gives a sealing effect on the plastic. Then you can swap to cellulose aerosols from your favourite motorist shop without having to worry about the solvents melting your project. They give a much better finish, in far less time, and probably less cost. They're the 'right' colours for painting car models. Plus, if you're careful, you can even 'mop' them just like a car paint job, although a polishing bob on a slow Dremel is used.
Title: Re: Modeling glue
Post by: omega3000 on 09 June 2012, 23:02:25
Found some glue , didnt manage to get to the model shop but used bostic for soft plastics .. in the mustang kit i have a choice of engines to fit , old school with carbs or new with supercharger  :P going old school as i painted the engine block black and have chrome filters and add ons to neatly position in the engine bay . Body looks good with the gloss black enamel i found in the shed . Onto the suspension tomorrow , if only it was the real thing , still taking the time to detail it as if it was  :y
Title: Re: Modeling glue
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 09 June 2012, 23:08:28
Found some glue , didnt manage to get to the model shop but used bostic for soft plastics .. in the mustang kit i have a choice of engines to fit , old school with carbs or new with supercharger  :P going old school as i painted the engine block black and have chrome filters and add ons to neatly position in the engine bay . Body looks good with the gloss black enamel i found in the shed . Onto the suspension tomorrow , if only it was the real thing , still taking the time to detail it as if it was  :y
got a beetle to do had it for ten years still in the box may have a go dont need glue for that one :y :y