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Title: Brake dust - front wheels in particular
Post by: OOMV6 on 21 June 2012, 17:45:36
Hey chaps,

Just having a look around my car and observed that my (clean at the time of fitting) alloys have been on for 7-8000 kms now. There is very very little brake dust showing. On other cars I notice the black traces very quickly and after a few thousand km start turning quite black.

The reason? Could aireated discs have an effect? Maybe the product I cleaned them with keeps the dust at bay for longer?
Just pondering really. Your thoughts? Or knowledge, even.  :y
Title: Re: Brake dust - front wheels in particular
Post by: Webby the Bear on 21 June 2012, 17:49:20
I know what you mean. i get the black dust. i think the CD alloys i have are at the perfect angle to store this crud too  ::)

one thing id like to know is... i've been working on brakes (discs n pads) a few times.... i never wear any face protection. if i breathe this shit in is it going to harm me? it mentions in the haynes manual to ''consider all brake components have aspestos and mask mouth just in case  :-\
Title: Re: Brake dust - front wheels in particular
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 21 June 2012, 17:52:23
you will look like old man jackson soon ;D ;D
Title: Re: Brake dust - front wheels in particular
Post by: OOMV6 on 21 June 2012, 17:54:30
I know what you mean. i get the black dust. i think the CD alloys i have are at the perfect angle to store this crud too  ::)

one thing id like to know is... i've been working on brakes (discs n pads) a few times.... i never wear any face protection. if i breathe this shit in is it going to harm me? it mentions in the haynes manual to ''consider all brake components have aspestos and mask mouth just in case  :-\

Not sure this is allowed any longer. Masks are a good idea, IMO, although I generally forget to wear one.

The point about the shape of the wheel might have a bearing on the rate of collection of dust. Maybe.
Title: Re: Brake dust - front wheels in particular
Post by: waspy on 21 June 2012, 19:01:45
Break pads & shoes have been osbestos free for years now :y
Title: Re: Brake dust - front wheels in particular
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 21 June 2012, 19:10:46
if paint protector polish is used on wheels they will get less dirty..
Title: Re: Brake dust - front wheels in particular
Post by: Kevin Wood on 21 June 2012, 19:18:16
Probably depends on the brake pads too. Recent trade club (in the kit with the disks) pads seem pretty bad for dust.
Title: Re: Brake dust - front wheels in particular
Post by: Jimbob on 21 June 2012, 19:31:52
There have been lots of complaints that tradeclub pads are very dusty...
Another reason why some prefer the OE pads, better braking feel and less dust :y
Title: Re: Brake dust - front wheels in particular
Post by: Nick W on 21 June 2012, 19:32:00
Brake pads & shoes have been asbestos free for years now :y

It's one of the reasons why they're dirtier, don't work as well, or last as long and ruin the discs so quickly.

A lot of modern formulations are like that as you can't be trusted with some of the constituents. So you end up with things like masking tape(really dangerous stuff wouldn't you agree), that barely sticks to the surface, and is released as soon as paint hits it. Or grinding paste that has virtually no effect.
Title: Re: Brake dust - front wheels in particular
Post by: sticka_v8_init on 21 June 2012, 22:34:37
if paint protector polish is used on wheels they will get less dirty..

As stated above. Have polished the alloys on all my cars for years and they last about 5 times longer than if i don't polish them.
Title: Re: Brake dust - front wheels in particular
Post by: the alarming man on 22 June 2012, 10:18:59
you can uy a spray on product now....armoral make i think...not sure if it works??.. :y
Title: Re: Brake dust - front wheels in particular
Post by: feeutfo on 22 June 2012, 12:12:06
It will be the quality of the pads used. Which seems almost directly related to their cost. IME.
Title: Re: Brake dust - front wheels in particular
Post by: feeutfo on 22 June 2012, 12:12:41
What pads do you have fitted?
Title: Re: Brake dust - front wheels in particular
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 22 June 2012, 12:41:13
I discovered that brake pads that are used for 30k kms make less dust ;D :P
Title: Re: Brake dust - front wheels in particular
Post by: feeutfo on 22 June 2012, 12:48:03
Oe might give you a few more miles cem. :)

Dust on the wheels being precisely related to the amount of wear on the pads. Oe pads giving vastly less dust.
Title: Re: Brake dust - front wheels in particular
Post by: Entwood on 22 June 2012, 12:50:48
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=104446.0


:)
Title: Re: Brake dust - front wheels in particular
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 22 June 2012, 12:51:13
seriously I dont use pads longer than 15-20k as they tend to eat disc surfaces when they are old :-\
Title: Re: Brake dust - front wheels in particular
Post by: OOMV6 on 23 June 2012, 13:20:30
What pads do you have fitted?

Dunno what I have. But I guess, as others have said, generally speaking the more you pay the better you get
Title: Re: Brake dust - front wheels in particular
Post by: Kendo1690 on 25 June 2012, 12:40:36
What product can be used to keep brake dust at bay ?
Title: Re: Brake dust - front wheels in particular
Post by: Nick W on 25 June 2012, 13:24:57
What product can be used to keep brake dust at bay ?

Elbow grease is the only thing that works consistently.
Apply it frequently and you won't have a problem!
Title: Re: Brake dust - front wheels in particular
Post by: feeutfo on 25 June 2012, 13:43:34
The paper work from the original owner of my car shows a product described as "brake dust arrester" on the service invoicing.

It does not give details but google reveals
http://www.dealerchoice.org.uk/products/products_brake.php

I don't suppose for one minute the technician actually uses it. I'd suspect it's one in the line of snake oil range of products tbh.