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Title: Which LPG Injector nozzles
Post by: TheBoy on 11 July 2012, 19:16:34
OK, given up with Teilo  >:(

I have the grey motogas badged injectors. Which nozzles do I need to buy from TinleyTech?
Title: Re: Which LPG Injector nozzles
Post by: feeutfo on 11 July 2012, 19:41:30
Same ones that are in it. ;D  :P
Title: Re: Which LPG Injector nozzles
Post by: TheBoy on 11 July 2012, 20:14:52
Same ones that are in it. ;D  :P
Only smaller.
Title: Re: Which LPG Injector nozzles
Post by: feeutfo on 11 July 2012, 20:50:38
Same ones that are in it. ;D  :P
Only smaller.
Only drilled smaller. :)
Title: Re: Which LPG Injector nozzles
Post by: feeutfo on 11 July 2012, 20:51:07
Tinley tech?
Title: Re: Which LPG Injector nozzles
Post by: TheBoy on 11 July 2012, 20:51:41
Same ones that are in it. ;D  :P
Only smaller.
Only drilled smaller. :)
Indeed.

I understand these are different to the red valtek nozzles?
Title: Re: Which LPG Injector nozzles
Post by: feeutfo on 11 July 2012, 20:54:58
Same ones that are in it. ;D  :P
Only smaller.
Only drilled smaller. :)
Indeed.

I understand these are different to the red valtek nozzles?
yes, the spares from the red Valteks are very different, going by the spares box.
Title: Re: Which LPG Injector nozzles
Post by: sassanach on 11 July 2012, 21:39:31
fill them up with solder, then drill to the correct size. :y
Title: Re: Which LPG Injector nozzles
Post by: feeutfo on 11 July 2012, 21:45:33
fill them up with solder, then drill to the correct size. :y
Or get them brased up...?
Title: Re: Which LPG Injector nozzles
Post by: Lazydocker on 11 July 2012, 22:00:55
'dangle berries'... I knew there was something I was meant to do :-[ :-[

I'll try him tomorrow (if I don't forget) ::)
Title: Re: Which LPG Injector nozzles
Post by: TheBoy on 11 July 2012, 22:03:28
fill them up with solder, then drill to the correct size. :y
Normal solder I use for electronics?
Title: Re: Which LPG Injector nozzles
Post by: TheBoy on 11 July 2012, 22:03:56
'dangle berries'... I knew there was something I was meant to do :-[ :-[

I'll try him tomorrow (if I don't forget) ::)
1 simple job, cripple, I give you one simple job ;D
Title: Re: Which LPG Injector nozzles
Post by: Lazydocker on 11 July 2012, 22:04:33
fill them up with solder, then drill to the correct size. :y
Normal solder I use for electronics?

I would have thought braze, not solder :-\
Title: Re: Which LPG Injector nozzles
Post by: Lazydocker on 11 July 2012, 22:05:17
'dangle berries'... I knew there was something I was meant to do :-[ :-[

I'll try him tomorrow (if I don't forget) ::)
1 simple job, cripple, I give you one simple job ;D
:-[ :-[ :-[

I've actually been doing some real work for the last few days though ::)
Title: Re: Which LPG Injector nozzles
Post by: feeutfo on 11 July 2012, 22:34:26
fill them up with solder, then drill to the correct size. :y
Normal solder I use for electronics?

I would have thought braze, not solder :-\
prefer brase meself :D
Title: Re: Which LPG Injector nozzles
Post by: dbug on 11 July 2012, 22:53:51
fill them up with solder, then drill to the correct size. :y
Normal solder I use for electronics?

I would have thought braze, not solder :-\
prefer brase meself :D

Or braze  ;)
Title: Re: Which LPG Injector nozzles
Post by: sassanach on 11 July 2012, 23:38:22
bog standard ordinary solder,works a treat :y
Title: Re: Which LPG Injector nozzles
Post by: sassanach on 11 July 2012, 23:40:34
sorry for the late reply,have just been to the local hostelry for a bit of female hormone replacement...hic!!
Title: Re: Which LPG Injector nozzles
Post by: sassanach on 12 July 2012, 11:16:05
if you try and braze brass that small you will have an unrecognisable lump of crap in your mitts....(after all braze is brass)
Title: Re: Which LPG Injector nozzles
Post by: Lazydocker on 12 July 2012, 14:30:59
if you try and braze brass that small you will have an unrecognisable lump of crap in your mitts....(after all braze is brass)

True... I hadn't thought about that :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Which LPG Injector nozzles
Post by: TheBoy on 12 July 2012, 18:51:47
bog standard ordinary solder,works a treat :y
Sorry, I'm being dumb. Again.

Solder I use for electrical/electronics, or solder I use for plumbing.

Cheers Sassanach :)
Title: Re: Which LPG Injector nozzles
Post by: tigers_gonads on 12 July 2012, 21:32:22
Electrical solder will do a nice job.
I'd bung up one end with a bit of plastercean or blue tack then fill them up  :y

I don't know what engine your using them on but I drilled mine out too 2.3mm and i've never had a problem.
Title: Re: Which LPG Injector nozzles
Post by: Lazydocker on 12 July 2012, 22:58:12
I don't know what engine your using them on but I drilled mine out too 2.3mm and i've never had a problem.

His car was the guinea pig to get the correct size for those nozzles ;) Used to be 2.5-3mm on the older ones :o
Title: Re: Which LPG Injector nozzles
Post by: TheBoy on 13 July 2012, 08:41:45
Indeed. With the old red Valeks, we used to drill the nozzles to 3mm for 3.0/3.2l cars.

TBE was the first with the 'new' kit, and on advice from the supplier, drilled to 2.5mm, which is too big the the car to idle. We now know that 2.2 or 2.3mm is about right for 3.2l with these grey Motogas badged injectors.
Title: Re: Which LPG Injector nozzles
Post by: tigers_gonads on 13 July 2012, 10:09:04
Solder is a hell of alot softer then brass so if you have a pillar drill and a hand vice, i'd use that to drill the holes out.

If you hold the drill by hand, any change of angle could open the hole up by 0.5mm with ease and screw up the finished hole size.

It might be worth starting with a 2mm drill bit and then working from there  ;)
Title: Re: Which LPG Injector nozzles
Post by: Kevin Wood on 13 July 2012, 12:37:10
Agreed on the fill with solder advice.. Unless reducing the vapour pressure a tad would work? Think we did this on Melchet's one when it idled poorly on the new injectors.
Title: Re: Which LPG Injector nozzles
Post by: Lazydocker on 13 July 2012, 20:53:40
Agreed on the fill with solder advice.. Unless reducing the vapour pressure a tad would work? Think we did this on Melchet's one when it idled poorly on the new injectors.

IIRC it's only at 1.1 BAR anyway so I wouldn't want to reduce it too much :-\
Title: Re: Which LPG Injector nozzles
Post by: TheBoy on 14 July 2012, 10:27:06
Solder is a hell of alot softer then brass so if you have a pillar drill and a hand vice, i'd use that to drill the holes out.

If you hold the drill by hand, any change of angle could open the hole up by 0.5mm with ease and screw up the finished hole size.

It might be worth starting with a 2mm drill bit and then working from there  ;)
Indeed, it would be nigh on impossible to drill a 2.2mm hole accurately by hand.