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Title: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 14 April 2008, 21:57:32
I am practising V6 Cambelts as I am challenging "The Master" to a race at the next meet.... :y

Title: Re: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: TheBoy on 14 April 2008, 21:58:31
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I am practising V6 Cambelts as I am challenging "The Master" to a race at the next meet.... :y

Fancy challenging him to a HG change ::)
Title: Re: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: Entwood on 14 April 2008, 21:59:19
MMMM .. If you're "racing" you ain't getting anywhere near mine !!!!  :(

 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 14 April 2008, 22:02:16
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MMMM .. If you're "racing" you ain't getting anywhere near mine !!!!  :(

 ;D ;D ;D ;D

Lol, quality over speed always for me.......and I would still beet Loo Knee.
Title: Re: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: CaptainZok on 14 April 2008, 22:04:28
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MMMM .. If you're "racing" you ain't getting anywhere near mine !!!!  :(

 ;D ;D ;D ;D

Lol, quality over speed always for me.......and I would still beet Loo Knee.
You forget our secret weapon Mark, we get Tonygnome to mither you and slow you down.
Title: Re: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: TheBoy on 14 April 2008, 22:04:45
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MMMM .. If you're "racing" you ain't getting anywhere near mine !!!!  :(

 ;D ;D ;D ;D

Lol, quality over speed always for me.......and I would still beet Loo Knee.
But he would look prettier in his pink outfit...
Title: Re: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: Kevin Wood on 14 April 2008, 22:06:58
So, what time penalty do we impose for each bent valve? ;D

Kevin
Title: Re: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: Marie on 14 April 2008, 22:08:16
loo-knee, what a stupid idea!

i cant beleive you would risk gettin a job done correctly and to a good quality to see if you can beat mark.  ;)

to be honest i wouldnt bother cos i bet that mark would win hands down!
Title: Re: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 14 April 2008, 22:11:15
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loo-knee, what a stupid idea!

i cant beleive you would risk gettin a job done correctly and to a good quality to see if you can beat mark.  ;)


to be honest i wouldnt bother cos i bet that mark would win hands down!

No worry there, I always inspect his work to make sure its right!

Thing is I have done 50+ of these belts now and know all the pit falls!
Title: Re: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: TheBoy on 14 April 2008, 22:12:15
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loo-knee, what a stupid idea!

i cant beleive you would risk gettin a job done correctly and to a good quality to see if you can beat mark.  ;)


to be honest i wouldnt bother cos i bet that mark would win hands down!

No worry there, I always inspect his work to make sure its right!

Thing is I have done 50+ of these belts now and know all the pit falls!
ooohhh, I'm catching you up (well, I must be in double figures ::))
Title: Re: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 14 April 2008, 22:13:29
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I am practising V6 Cambelts as I am challenging "The Master" to a race at the next meet.... :y

Fancy challenging him to a HG change ::)

I will help him, any weekend he fancies :y
Title: Re: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 14 April 2008, 22:14:02
Average time is about 2 hours with lots of checks.....quite happy doing them in an evening after work now.
Title: Re: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 14 April 2008, 22:15:58
I reckon 1hour 50 mins ;) ;D
Title: Re: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 14 April 2008, 22:17:28
1 hour 36 mins is my record.......

The fastest I have ever put one back together was on jamies.....
Title: Re: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 14 April 2008, 22:18:37
My fastest time is 1hr 34 mins 48 seconds beat that then ;D
Title: Re: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: TheBoy on 14 April 2008, 22:18:43
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1 hour 36 mins is my record.......

The fastest I have ever put one back together was on jamies.....
that was impressive :y

but only because I'd stripped it so well :P
Title: Re: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 14 April 2008, 22:19:24
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1 hour 36 mins is my record.......

The fastest I have ever put one back together was on jamies.....
that was impressive :y

but only because I'd stripped it so well :P

I dont think you could hand me the bits fast enough.
Title: Re: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: TheBoy on 14 April 2008, 22:23:23
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1 hour 36 mins is my record.......

The fastest I have ever put one back together was on jamies.....
that was impressive :y

but only because I'd stripped it so well :P

I dont think you could hand me the bits fast enough.
Its my age - it takes a long time to bend down without breaking wind.

Plus I didn't have a rather clue what order it all went back together ;D


All joking aside, it was indeed very impressive :y
Title: Re: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: Debs. on 14 April 2008, 22:24:05
 ::) The only time factor that matters is how long the repaired engines lasted after those hyper-rapid rebuilds?  ;D
Title: Re: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: Elite Pete on 14 April 2008, 22:25:08
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::) The only time factor that matters is how long the repaired engines lasted after those hyper-rapid rebuilds?  ;D
You mean, before it starts to leak water :D
Title: Re: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: Kevin Wood on 14 April 2008, 22:30:38
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::) The only time factor that matters is how long the repaired engines lasted after those hyper-rapid rebuilds?  ;D
You mean, before it starts to leak water :D
Oooh. :-X
Title: Re: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 14 April 2008, 22:32:21
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::) The only time factor that matters is how long the repaired engines lasted after those hyper-rapid rebuilds?  ;D
You mean, before it starts to leak water :D

HHHHmmmmmmmmmmmmmm >:(
Title: Re: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 14 April 2008, 22:34:25
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::) The only time factor that matters is how long the repaired engines lasted after those hyper-rapid rebuilds?  ;D

Quality is always paramout.....no corners are cut and everything checked at least twice.....
Title: Re: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: Marie on 14 April 2008, 22:37:38
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::) The only time factor that matters is how long the repaired engines lasted after those hyper-rapid rebuilds?  ;D
You mean, before it starts to leak water :D

HHHHmmmmmmmmmmmmmm >:(


have i missed something???? :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ did lk not put something back together properly
Title: Re: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 14 April 2008, 22:41:11
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::) The only time factor that matters is how long the repaired engines lasted after those hyper-rapid rebuilds?  ;D
You mean, before it starts to leak water :D

HHHHmmmmmmmmmmmmmm >:(


have i missed something???? :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ did lk not put something back together properly

you wouldn't understand ;)
Title: Re: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 14 April 2008, 22:41:14
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::) The only time factor that matters is how long the repaired engines lasted after those hyper-rapid rebuilds?  ;D
You mean, before it starts to leak water :D

HHHHmmmmmmmmmmmmmm >:(


have i missed something???? :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ did lk not put something back together properly

Only Elite Pete can answer that one.....

Seconds away....round one!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 14 April 2008, 22:42:02
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::) The only time factor that matters is how long the repaired engines lasted after those hyper-rapid rebuilds?  ;D
You mean, before it starts to leak water :D

HHHHmmmmmmmmmmmmmm >:(


have i missed something???? :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ did lk not put something back together properly

Only Elite Pete can answer that one.....

Seconds away....round one!  ;D ;D


LMAO ;D
Title: Re: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: CaptainZok on 14 April 2008, 22:44:44
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::) The only time factor that matters is how long the repaired engines lasted after those hyper-rapid rebuilds?  ;D
You mean, before it starts to leak water :D

HHHHmmmmmmmmmmmmmm >:(


have i missed something???? :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ did lk not put something back together properly

Only Elite Pete can answer that one.....

Seconds away....round one!  ;D ;D
I think the idea of a V6 with a water feature was "interestingly different"  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: albitz on 14 April 2008, 22:53:12
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1 hour 36 mins is my record.......

The fastest I have ever put one back together was on jamies.....
did mine in 6 hours last week,i was quite pleased :-[ ;D
Title: Re: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: Martin_1962 on 14 April 2008, 23:51:34
My acheivements

stop to head off a car 30 minutes

changed piston by road side on a bike, about 15 minutes each bit
Title: Re: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: Vamps on 14 April 2008, 23:55:28
For goodness sake, why all this macho stuff, never mind cambelts how about a 'fancy dress challenge' at the lakes, on the Saturday cos that's when I am coming over.  ;D ;D ;D Bet LK wins, shall I bring a Range Rover?  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: zippo on 15 April 2008, 00:13:37
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For goodness sake, why all this macho stuff, never mind cambelts how about a 'fancy dress challenge' at the lakes, on the Saturday cos that's when I am coming over.  ;D ;D ;D Bet LK wins, shall I bring a Range Rover?  ;D ;D ;D ;D

is there something your not telling us Mike???????? ;) ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: Vamps on 15 April 2008, 00:15:02
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For goodness sake, why all this macho stuff, never mind cambelts how about a 'fancy dress challenge' at the lakes, on the Saturday cos that's when I am coming over.  ;D ;D ;D Bet LK wins, shall I bring a Range Rover?  ;D ;D ;D ;D

is there something your not telling us Mike???????? ;) ;) ;) ;)


Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: The Barge Captain on 15 April 2008, 08:11:29
An hour and a half is  a fairly repectable time.  I could do a belt in that.....



It just always seems to take me another 5 hours to get the water pump changed and the block flushed out  ;D
Title: Re: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: Marie on 15 April 2008, 09:08:29
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::) The only time factor that matters is how long the repaired engines lasted after those hyper-rapid rebuilds?  ;D
You mean, before it starts to leak water :D

HHHHmmmmmmmmmmmmmm >:(


have i missed something???? :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ did lk not put something back together properly

you wouldn't understand ;)

why wouldnt i ????

is it cos im a woman and its a man thing???? >:(
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 15 April 2008, 09:10:30
I suspect that Mr Loo-knee as cocked something up recently and does not have the balls to admit it.......... ::)
Title: Re: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: Marie on 15 April 2008, 09:18:50
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I suspect that Mr Loo-knee as cocked something up recently and does not have the balls to admit it.......... ::)

mmmmmmm sounds about right. ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 15 April 2008, 09:58:25
Sorry but this thread seems like a joke :-?
Title: Re: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: Jay w on 15 April 2008, 10:07:11
what's the quickest time an engine swap has been done in......

swapping ancills once the old lump is out.

No complications such as LPG ect.
Title: Re: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: Bo Bo on 15 April 2008, 10:10:00
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what's the quickest time an engine swap has been done in......

swapping ancills once the old lump is out.

No complications such as LPG ect.
Don't think TB's tractor will be up there!  ::)
Title: Re: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: Jay w on 15 April 2008, 10:25:09
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what's the quickest time an engine swap has been done in......

swapping ancills once the old lump is out.

No complications such as LPG ect.
Don't think TB's tractor will be up there!  ::)

No this is a V6......none of this BMW rubbish  ;)
Title: Re: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: Matchless on 15 April 2008, 10:37:22
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My acheivements

stop to head off a car 30 minutes

changed piston by road side on a bike, about 15 minutes each bit

I once changed the clutch plate on a comp Imp on the hard shoulder of the M45. Just got it running when a Police m/c turned up to see if I needed assistance....dont think he would have been too chuffed if he knew what I had done.  ;D
Title: Re: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 15 April 2008, 11:29:49
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I suspect that Mr Loo-knee as cocked something up recently and does not have the balls to admit it.......... ::)

Er No its LMF Vauxhall selling duff parts >:(
Title: Re: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: bob.dent on 15 April 2008, 11:40:51
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Sorry but this thread seems like a joke :-?

A bit of friendly rivalry Cem. ;)

Mark DTM is well known for his quick cambelt replacements and I think Loo-Knee thinks he's quicker. ::)
Title: Re: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 15 April 2008, 11:44:47
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Sorry but this thread seems like a joke :-?

A bit of friendly rivalry Cem. ;)

Mark DTM is well known for his quick cambelt replacements and I think Loo-Knee thinks he's quicker. ::)


Apparantly he is, but not at cambelt changes!
Title: Re: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: Kevin Wood on 15 April 2008, 11:46:15
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what's the quickest time an engine swap has been done in......

swapping ancills once the old lump is out.

No complications such as LPG ect.

I've had one out on a stand within 45 minutes of arriving home with the engine hoist.




Oh, did I mention that it wasn't a V6 nor an Omega?..  :-X

I think wisdom we gained during the tractor episode is that it's probably a good idea to mount the gearbox to the engine first and put the two in together rather than try to offer the engine up to the gearbox. ::) This would be even more prudent with a V6 where access will be more restricted than on the tractor.

Kevin
Title: Re: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: bob.dent on 15 April 2008, 11:54:03
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Sorry but this thread seems like a joke :-?

A bit of friendly rivalry Cem. ;)

Mark DTM is well known for his quick cambelt replacements and I think Loo-Knee thinks he's quicker. ::)


Apparantly he is, but not at cambelt changes!

 ;D ;D ;D

Well, had to be said. ::)
Title: Re: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: Bo Bo on 15 April 2008, 11:58:06
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what's the quickest time an engine swap has been done in......

swapping ancills once the old lump is out.

No complications such as LPG ect.

I've had one out on a stand within 45 minutes of arriving home with the engine hoist.




Oh, did I mention that it wasn't a V6 nor an Omega?..  :-X

I think wisdom we gained during the tractor episode is that it's probably a good idea to mount the gearbox to the engine first and put the two in together rather than try to offer the engine up to the gearbox. ::) This would be even more prudent with a V6 where access will be more restricted than on the tractor.

Kevin
Oh what fun that was in the pouring rain....
Title: Re: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: Jay w on 15 April 2008, 18:30:07
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what's the quickest time an engine swap has been done in......

swapping ancills once the old lump is out.

No complications such as LPG ect.

I've had one out on a stand within 45 minutes of arriving home with the engine hoist.




Oh, did I mention that it wasn't a V6 nor an Omega?..  :-X

I think wisdom we gained during the tractor episode is that it's probably a good idea to mount the gearbox to the engine first and put the two in together rather than try to offer the engine up to the gearbox. ::) This would be even more prudent with a V6 where access will be more restricted than on the tractor.

Kevin

seriously???

seems a lot of hassle, is it really that much easier?
Title: Re: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: Kevin Wood on 15 April 2008, 21:44:11
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seriously???

seems a lot of hassle, is it really that much easier?

It was bad enough with the slant 6 tractor engine and that gave good access to the bellhousing right round one side. I would take the gearbox out, get it all mounted to the engine and put the 2 in together. Front of the car will need to be up on ramps at a guess, but I'm sure we wouldn't have had anything like the hassle if we'd done that.

You could probably mount the exhaust manifolds and starter, etc. on the engine first as well, meaning a few less fiddly ancillaries to put on later, whereas if you were trying to line it up with the gearbox you'd want all that off the engine.

Less chance of mullering the torque converter or seal too.

Kevin
Title: Re: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 15 April 2008, 21:46:58
Its easier to pop the donk out of a V6....its half the length so much more rome to shift it.

It is easier with the box on.
Title: Re: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: Kevin Wood on 15 April 2008, 21:52:33
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Its easier to pop the donk out of a V6....its half the length so much more rome to shift it.

It is easier with the box on.

True. I'd forgotten it is 2.5 cylinders shorter.

Kevin
Title: Re: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: TheBoy on 15 April 2008, 21:59:10
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seriously???

seems a lot of hassle, is it really that much easier?

It was bad enough with the slant 6 tractor engine and that gave good access to the bellhousing right round one side. I would take the gearbox out, get it all mounted to the engine and put the 2 in together. Front of the car will need to be up on ramps at a guess, but I'm sure we wouldn't have had anything like the hassle if we'd done that.

You could probably mount the exhaust manifolds and starter, etc. on the engine first as well, meaning a few less fiddly ancillaries to put on later, whereas if you were trying to line it up with the gearbox you'd want all that off the engine.

Less chance of mullering the torque converter or seal too.

Kevin
It took 6 if us several hours to fit engine with gearbox in car.  A week weeks later, it took LFF64 and I about 90 mins with geaarbox attached outside of car.
Title: Re: Loo-knee Vs Mark DTM
Post by: Kevin Wood on 15 April 2008, 22:06:38
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seriously???

seems a lot of hassle, is it really that much easier?

It was bad enough with the slant 6 tractor engine and that gave good access to the bellhousing right round one side. I would take the gearbox out, get it all mounted to the engine and put the 2 in together. Front of the car will need to be up on ramps at a guess, but I'm sure we wouldn't have had anything like the hassle if we'd done that.

You could probably mount the exhaust manifolds and starter, etc. on the engine first as well, meaning a few less fiddly ancillaries to put on later, whereas if you were trying to line it up with the gearbox you'd want all that off the engine.

Less chance of mullering the torque converter or seal too.

Kevin
It took 6 if us several hours to fit engine with gearbox in car.  A week weeks later, it took LFF64 and I about 90 mins with geaarbox attached outside of car.

I guess you didn't have the gazebo of periodic soaking to deal with though. >:(

Kevin
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Post by: TheBoy on 15 April 2008, 22:12:35
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seriously???

seems a lot of hassle, is it really that much easier?

It was bad enough with the slant 6 tractor engine and that gave good access to the bellhousing right round one side. I would take the gearbox out, get it all mounted to the engine and put the 2 in together. Front of the car will need to be up on ramps at a guess, but I'm sure we wouldn't have had anything like the hassle if we'd done that.

You could probably mount the exhaust manifolds and starter, etc. on the engine first as well, meaning a few less fiddly ancillaries to put on later, whereas if you were trying to line it up with the gearbox you'd want all that off the engine.

Less chance of mullering the torque converter or seal too.

Kevin
It took 6 if us several hours to fit engine with gearbox in car.  A week weeks later, it took LFF64 and I about 90 mins with geaarbox attached outside of car.

I guess you didn't have the gazebo of periodic soaking to deal with though. >:(

Kevin
No, it was a much more relaxed day and good weather ;D