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Title: Engine whiring V6 2.5
Post by: a2reed on 06 August 2012, 02:27:59
Engine whiring the pitch goes up and down with the revs

Worried that it might be the dreaded Cam belt but others say it could be altenator or Aircon pump

Anybody had experience ...especially of the latter

Any idea how much ... ?

Could it be Water pump?

How much is aircon pump ... can just the bearings be replaced?
Title: Re: Engine whiring V6 2.5
Post by: henryd on 06 August 2012, 12:29:49
First you need to remove the auxillary belt and run the engine briefly without it and see if the noise disappears ,if it does its one of the auxillary pulleys making the noise,tensioner pulley is the usual suspect and the bearings can be re-greased if they aren't too far gone
Title: Re: Engine whiring V6 2.5
Post by: a2reed on 06 August 2012, 15:32:46
Funny you should say that I replaced the belt and the tensioner with GM parts 6 months ago as it had seized and wore through the belt until it snapped and it is still spinning so I think I can rule that out ...firstly I would like to rule out the cam belt ... anyone give any assurance on that one?

That will put my mind at rest .....if it is the aircon pump ... can I use a shorter belt and not bother with the aircon... it has no gas and I dont use it anyway

Or could it be the water pump?
Title: Re: Engine whiring V6 2.5
Post by: Kevin Wood on 06 August 2012, 15:35:49
You can't rule out the cam belt as easily, but you do need to try it without the aux. belt. Just because the pulley is relatively new it doesn't mean it's not faulty, or that one of the other items driven by that belt is not making the noise.

If that's OK, you need to take off the cam belt cover and check all is well behind that.
Title: Re: Engine whiring V6 2.5
Post by: a2reed on 06 August 2012, 15:38:00
Ok chaps will do that ....many thnaks and I will report back later
Title: Re: Engine whiring V6 2.5
Post by: dbug on 06 August 2012, 23:53:24
As said above if noise goes away with aux belt removed, then unlikely to be cam belt.  Check all pulleys for noise/roughness/play.

In answer to your question re bypassing air con compressor with a shorter aux belt that can be done ok - you want an Omega 2.0 lit with air con belt - just the right size for a V6 without air con  :y
Title: Re: Engine whiring V6 2.5
Post by: a2reed on 07 August 2012, 15:55:56
Right ... had all the bits of airways plumbing out and removed the Aux belt ... Hurrah the whining noise stopped

Belted it back up and I think it is the altenator ...pretty sure.

Is it best to buy a new/recon around £150 on Elite ... or bearings change ... if so is that easy and where from .vx don't stock..how much?
Title: Re: Engine whiring V6 2.5
Post by: albitz on 07 August 2012, 16:16:11
I believe RobG has an alternator for sale in the parts for sale section. ;)
Title: Re: Engine whiring V6 2.5
Post by: RobG on 07 August 2012, 16:50:52
I believe RobG has an alternator for sale in the parts for sale section. ;)
Replied to his PM Albs :y
Title: Re: Engine whiring V6 2.5
Post by: a2reed on 08 August 2012, 07:05:15
Thanks Albitz
Title: Re: Engine whiring V6 2.5
Post by: Kevin Wood on 08 August 2012, 10:00:29
Alternator bearing change is pretty straightforward. Details of the bearings are on here if you do a search. ;)
Title: Re: Engine whiring V6 2.5
Post by: henryd on 08 August 2012, 14:14:23
Alternator bearing change is pretty straightforward. Details of the bearings are on here if you do a search. ;)

At the price Rob wanted for his s/hand unit is it worth the bother ???
Title: Re: Engine whiring V6 2.5
Post by: a2reed on 08 August 2012, 14:59:33
CHaps .... before I attempt the Alternator removal I thought I would check to see if there was a "How Too" on it but staggeringly there isn't ....

1.. can that be right and
2...Is it a tough job ... how long?

Many thnaks
Title: Re: Engine whiring V6 2.5
Post by: omega3000 on 08 August 2012, 18:31:24
First you need to remove the auxillary belt and run the engine briefly without it and see if the noise disappears ,if it does its one of the auxillary pulleys making the noise,tensioner pulley is the usual suspect and the bearings can be re-greased if they aren't too far gone

+ 1 , re grease the pulley bearings then see if it makes the same noise first before shelling out loadsa monies  :)
Title: Re: Engine whiring V6 2.5
Post by: albitz on 08 August 2012, 19:45:20
CHaps .... before I attempt the Alternator removal I thought I would check to see if there was a "How Too" on it but staggeringly there isn't ....

1.. can that be right and
2...Is it a tough job ... how long?

Many thnaks

Slip the aux. belt off the pulleys,disconnect battery and undo wiring from the rear of altenator,remove the (three iirc) bolts holding the alternator,then lift it out.Refitting is the reverse. A bit fiddly but for a slow old bloke like me,a couple of hours tops.
Hope thats right as its been a while since I removed one,and that was from an engine which was already out of the car ;)