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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: waspy on 07 August 2012, 18:10:05
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Sat in Sainbury's car park & I spotted a druggy needle on the floor near the recycling bins.I phoned Sainsbury's &told them, the guy was out in less than five mins with all the gear & disposed of it. The needle was uncapped so a child could easily see it, pick it up & stick them selves or who ever. >:(
Why don't these low life scum that take this shite just hurry up & die.
No appologise to anyone thats offended by that comment, because that's how i feel. >:(
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Second that Sir :y :y :y :y :y
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Unfortunatly this countrys attitude to these people is too liberal, they are given thousands of pounds worth of help over the years and all they do is abuse the system.
If i had a say in the distribution of funds to the low life scum of theis nation they would recive bugger all in the way of help and left to rot in the crap hole that they created.
Everyone is in ultimatly in control of their own destiny after all.
There is an area just off oxford street london that is very often closed off to public untill about 9am due to the amount of drug rubbish on the streets. the councill clear it very quickly each morning but they fight a losing battle.
I TOO, WONT LOSE ANY SLEEP OVER THESE SCUM.
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It sounds to me like YDGAF Pete. ;D
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Very high chance it could have been a diabetics or steroid users discarded needle , just for some balance ;)
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Diabetics dont normaly dispose of the needles in sainsburys car park.
as for steriod users, they are on the same rocky road the heroine users are on.
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Diabetics dont normaly dispose of the needles in sainsburys car park.
as for steriod users, they are on the same rocky road the heroine users are on.
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Waste of space and money. >:(
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Unfortunatly this countrys attitude to these people is too liberal, they are given thousands of pounds worth of help over the years and all they do is abuse the system.
Quite right. Rather than waste resources trying to cure these, so they can keep stealing/mugging etc, why not just shoot them?
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It sounds to me like YDGAF Pete. ;D
Changed just for you :-* ;D ;D
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why not just shoot them?
This is what I said to Maria when she came back to the car :y
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I could easily be tempted to join in with the "shoot them/hang them/overdose them" mentality,but its so very easy these days for young people,particularily if they are in any way emotionally vulnerable,to get dragged into the downward spiral of drugs.
If any of you have children - when they get to that awkward teenage period,it could easily happen."There but for the grace of god" etc. ;)
Would you still want them exterminated like a rodent if it happened to one of your own ? What will you say if its your son/daugher/brother/sister etc.. ::)
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I could easily be tempted to join in with the "shoot them/hang them/overdose them" mentality,but its so very easy these days for young people,particularily if they are in any way emotionally vulnerable,to get dragged into the downward spiral of drugs.
If any of you have children - when they get to that awkward teenage period,it could easily happen."There but for the grace of god" etc. ;)
Would you still want them exterminated like a rodent if it happened to one of your own ? ::)
Fair point that.
Just shoot all the dealers instead :y
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Now that I will agree with.I would even volunteer to pull the trigger. :y
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I could easily be tempted to join in with the "shoot them/hang them/overdose them" mentality,but its so very easy these days for young people,particularily if they are in any way emotionally vulnerable,to get dragged into the downward spiral of drugs.
If any of you have children - when they get to that awkward teenage period,it could easily happen."There but for the grace of god" etc. ;)
Would you still want them exterminated like a rodent if it happened to one of your own ? What will you say if its your son/daugher/brother/sister etc.. ::)
Sadly, IME (albeit limited, fortunately), once its taken hold, they will be dragged in to a life of crime and misery.
Hopefully, knowing that shooting would be likely, might be a deterent. Maybe not.
I think to accept, due to the sums involved, we will never be able to stop dealers. Although those caught should obviously suffer a similar fate, maybe just more painfully/inhumanely.
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I could easily be tempted to join in with the "shoot them/hang them/overdose them" mentality,but its so very easy these days for young people,particularily if they are in any way emotionally vulnerable,to get dragged into the downward spiral of drugs.
If any of you have children - when they get to that awkward teenage period,it could easily happen."There but for the grace of god" etc. ;)
Would you still want them exterminated like a rodent if it happened to one of your own ? What will you say if its your son/daugher/brother/sister etc.. ::)
Sadly, IME (albeit limited, fortunately), once its taken hold, they will be dragged in to a life of crime and misery.
Hopefully, knowing that shooting would be likely, might be a deterent. Maybe not.
I think to accept, due to the sums involved, we will never be able to stop dealers. Although those caught should obviously suffer a similar fate, maybe just more painfully/inhumanely.
Have you any kids Jamie ?
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I maintain my controversial position that current 'recreational' drugs, of every hue, strength and variation, and kit to administer, should be free to those that want them.
If potential users don't use the brains and common sense they were born with, that's their lookout.
And yes, I do have kids. And they know my thoughts only too well.
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thats a whole new meaning to i am not drinking tonight i will have a coke :o :o
if all drugs were leagalised then all the do gooders could ban them to in public places :D ;)
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I maintain my controversial position that current 'recreational' drugs, of every hue, strength and variation, and kit to administer, should be free to those that want them. If potential users don't use the brains and common sense they were born with, that's their lookout.
And yes, I do have kids. And they know my thoughts only too well.
I have to agree, people take drugs because they enjoy them, just like people drink some become alcoholics others don't. By removing the criminal aspect to all this we remove the gangsters, the funding of terrorism, and those who prey on those they supply, and guess what we raise revenue from tax and duty which could be used to help those who want to kick the habit.
The one thing I cannot condone is the discarding of needles and other paraphernailia without consideration for others, for gods sake sharps bins are free, as are needles to those who want them. It is like litter, take it home and then bin it properly >:(
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The one thing I cannot condone is the discarding of needles and other paraphernailia without consideration for others, for gods sake sharps bins are free, as are needles to those who want them. It is like litter, take it home and then bin it properly >:(
Unfortunately, we are talking about the most extreme end of people who couldn't give a damn about anybody else - just their own personal gratification. Their every breath wastes a little more oxygen.
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The best way to make something appealing to teenagers is to ban it. If something is legal then you largely kill the black market.
So is legalization the answer? I'm not sure.
If the war against drugs was winnable, I would say carry on the fight to the bitter end, but sadly in isn't. Likewise if the present status was proven to minimize the number of addicts, then likewise carry on the fight.
So I'm not sure what the best answer is?
Unfortunately other countries have shown (Scandinavia) that if taxes are rapidly increased on alcoholic drinks then youngsters will turn to soft drugs as a cheaper alternative. So if minimum unit pricing happens then expect more addicts. >:( >:( >:(
I hate all litter bugs of any sort. Put it in a bin or take it home and bin it. :y :y
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Perhaps theyare going to dispose of them on this http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-19164973 Yes I know it is for recovering people, but all the same they could loose a few over the side.
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Now were also hearing about people suffering the ill effects and/or dying after taking some of these so called legal highs!
By listening to the way they're talking about these legal highs you begin to understand that because they aren't illegal (government doesn't have time to legislate against everything, yet) they strangely think that somehow they've been given the green light to use. They then use that as an excuse/justification when their head falls off after taking it!
What the hells going on? These retards. What happened to personal responsibility? If you boil up a strange potion then drink it then die its your own bloody fault. Idiots. Why not drink petrol then, it's cheaper than vodka? The gimps.
Another thing that boils my pissis bloody free syringes for junky scum yet cancer sufferers can't get treatment.
Just stop and think about the hindrance, economically, socially, etc etc these drug using scum have on our nation. We're too bloody soft in this country. I certainly think there is a case for capital punishment. The trouble is there's too many socialist do gooding basterwards who are quick to jump to their defence, rather than a hard working, law abiding, genuine tax payer whose just had his house burgled by one of these scum.
Isn't Britain great!
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What happened to personal responsibility?
That's the crucial question.
However society decides to anoint people who decide to use these 'recreational' drugs (including prescription meds, alcohol and gambling the simplicity of this question will always defeat the pundits.
Thinking back to the many colleagues (double figures) I knew who took their own lives (by shooting, gassing or prescription meds) alcohol/excessive behaviour always played a prominent part in their decline.
Their apparent lack of personal responsibility seemed to allow the inevitable devastation that would be felt by those they left behind be the furthest thing from their minds – substance abuse, in my view, tends to promote the insularity of people who decide to march to the beat of their own drum whatever the eventual cost to either themselves, their families or to society in general.
While it is impossible to legislate fully in the quest to control the distribution and use of classified drugs, prescription medication, ‘soft’ drugs and alcohol or to regulate the availability of other stimulants such as gambling, the state must always seek to do so and act should the law be contravened.
Whatever way it’s dressed up, and irrespective of the nature of the legislation available to deal with these increasingly problematic issues - issues which are now being seen to infiltrate society across the social divide, this matter will always come down to one thing and one thing only – one of personal responsibility.
The disconnect from practical reality afforded by affluence, criminal behaviour, electronic media, stimulants, the disintegration of family life (and values) is destabilising ‘society’ in many areas of the world and self-indulgence is beginning to assume a level of importance that is both unwelcome and very worrying indeed.
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Whats the oof defination of "sort drugs" ?
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Whatever way it’s dressed up, and irrespective of the nature of the legislation available to deal with these increasingly problematic issues - issues which are now being seen to infiltrate society across the social divide, this matter will always come down to one thing and one thing only – one of personal responsibility.
The increasing "nannying" of the State and the growth of legislation that purports to "protect" the individual and the community will tend to reduce the sense of personal responsibility. If something is not specifically illegal, it will be seen as being condoned - albeit passively. People who display a high sense of personal responsibility will be viewed as being rebellious and potentially a threat to society as they will demonstrate free thinking by their actions.
George Orwell could probably have written a book about it.
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Whats the oof defination of "sort drugs" ?
I'm not entirely sure as there doesn't appear to be a precise legal definition of what it may be.
In my own mind at least, any drug (used for recreational purposes or as the result of an addiction) cannot really be regarded as being 'soft' as the effect of its use alters the behaviour of the user to some extent or other - hence the inverted commas around the word, soft.
In general terms I suppose the term could be used to describe any substance (including alcohol and tobacco) not being classified as either a Class A or Class B drug under the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971 (as amended).
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Whatever way it’s dressed up, and irrespective of the nature of the legislation available to deal with these increasingly problematic issues - issues which are now being seen to infiltrate society across the social divide, this matter will always come down to one thing and one thing only – one of personal responsibility.
The increasing "nannying" of the State and the growth of legislation that purports to "protect" the individual and the community will tend to reduce the sense of personal responsibility. If something is not specifically illegal, it will be seen as being condoned - albeit passively. People who display a high sense of personal responsibility will be viewed as being rebellious and potentially a threat to society as they will demonstrate free thinking by their actions.
George Orwell could probably have written a book about it.
George Orwell could probably have written a book about it.
Yes, he missed that boat. ;D
The general tenor of your comments is quite valid.
The state will always have the responsibility to create an environment where the accepted norms of life can be experienced in a reasonable and ordered fashion.
People must have the freedom live their lives within the rules handed down by convention or legislation - wherever they choose to call ‘home’
In recent years the ‘state’ has determined that due to the mores of modern society, changing patterns of behaviour, security concerns and so on it must alter the long established covenant of it being there for the benefit and further development of society to become instrumental in attempting to manipulate, in a much more involved way, how people under its control live their lives.
This is a bad thing of course and, as you rightly, say those of us who tend to point out the undesirability of this new direction will always be regarded as people to be suspected of subversion and promoters of dissent by encouraging others to think in any independent manner.
In most cases that’s why during the course revolutionary upheaval the professional classes are most likely to be amongst the first casualties.
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Geoff wrote ................ By listening to the way they're talking about these legal highs you begin to understand that because they aren't illegal (government doesn't have time to legislate against everything, yet) they strangely think that somehow they've been given the green light to use. They then use that as an excuse/justification when their head falls off after taking it!
What the hells going on? These retards. What happened to personal responsibility? If you boil up a strange potion then drink it then die its your own bloody fault. Idiots. Why not drink petrol then, it's cheaper than vodka? The gimps.
Another thing that boils my pissis bloody free syringes for junky scum yet cancer sufferers can't get treatment.
Agree 100% with all that :y
Jimac wrote ................ The increasing "nannying" of the State and the growth of legislation that purports to "protect" the individual and the community will tend to reduce the sense of personal responsibility. If something is not specifically illegal, it will be seen as being condoned - albeit passively. People who display a high sense of personal responsibility will be viewed as being rebellious and potentially a threat to society as they will demonstrate free thinking by their actions.
Agree 100% :y
Problem is what is a soft drug ?
Are we talking about a couple sat in the garden on a night, chilling out while having a joint ?
Do you make legal drugs like Speed or "downers" or acid ?
There is enough violence in the citys without having to tackle some tosser who is out of his scull on speed and all he wants to do is take the world on.
At the end of the day, freedom should come with ground rules that should be drummed into kids sculls when they are young by decient parents.
Sandy, most of todays parents have not got a clue and so society carry's on on its slippery slope ............. downwards :(
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Personally I really don't care what people do behind closed doors.... ::) It's when their actions and behaviour affects the community around them, that the problems start... :-\ ie alot of crime is caused by heroin addicts trying to fund their habits! >:(
Successive governments soft glove approach is largely to blame and in my opinion addicts who are brought before the courts should be sentenced to immediate 'Cold Turkey' treatment in addition to whatever sentence they get for the crime they committed.... ???
I believe however that forcing criminals to undergo 'Cold Turkey' in prisons, has now been banned under Human Rights laws and they are supplied with methadone instead!!! >:( >:( >:(
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Personally I really don't care what people do behind closed doors.... ::) It's when their actions and behaviour affects the community around them, that the problems start... :-\ ie alot of crime is caused by heroin addicts trying to fund their habits! >:(
Successive governments soft glove approach is largely to blame and in my opinion addicts who are brought before the courts should be sentenced to immediate 'Cold Turkey' treatment in addition to whatever sentence they get for the crime they committed.... ???
I believe however that forcing criminals to undergo 'Cold Turkey' in prisons, has now been banned under Human Rights laws and supplied with methadonethey are instead!!! >:( >:( >:(
Drugs are freely available in prison and I reckon that a blind eye is turned because it keeps the inmates quitet. Just ask yourself how it all gets in, well not smugled in by visitors, or a ball over the wall I would suggest someone who works there ::). Nobodys arse is big enough to get in the amount used ;D ;D ;D
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I'm not so sure about that. Some of the female prison guards have bloody mahoosive arses! :D
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If the war against drugs was winnable
It is, if we are able to ignore the liberals amongst society. There are more bullets than retards in this world, belive it or not.
Obviously, Den's ugly bird from Liberty would have to be silenced, but I'd happily pay for that bullet...
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The one thing I cannot condone is the discarding of needles and other paraphernailia without consideration for others, for gods sake sharps bins are free, as are needles to those who want them. It is like litter, take it home and then bin it properly >:(
Unfortunately, we are talking about the most extreme end of people who couldn't give a damn about anybody else - just their own personal gratification. Their every breath wastes a little more oxygen.
Exactly. I've been in earshot as a poor, vulnerable junkie swore at the ambulance crew who'd just stopped her from dying, for ruining her buzz...
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If the war against drugs was winnable
It is, if we are able to ignore the liberals amongst society. There are more bullets than retards in this world, belive it or not.
Obviously, Den's ugly bird from Liberty would have to be silenced, but I'd happily pay for that bullet...
be silenced
I have just the 'bullet' here for that job. :-X :-* :-*
Shami - in the unlikely event you happen upon the pages of this journal, take heart on the knowledge that Uncle Denny fancies the pants off you. :-* :-* :-* :-*
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Shami - in the unlikely event you happen upon the pages of this journal, take heart on the knowledge that Uncle Denny fancies the pants off you. :-* :-* :-* :-*
and TheBoy thinks you are lovely, Shami, if you could just keep your trap shut, and your self-centred views to yourself.
Sorry, I lied about the lovely bit...
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If the war against drugs was winnable
It is, if we are able to ignore the liberals amongst society. There are more bullets than retards in this world, belive it or not.
Obviously, Den's ugly bird from Liberty would have to be silenced, but I'd happily pay for that bullet...
I thought it was just me. Cannot bloody stand that bloody opinionated self centred theatrical do gooder who likes to be seen to 'do good'. Me me me. I bet she drives a Prius and buys organic vegetables and fair trade bananas.
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If the war against drugs was winnable
It is, if we are able to ignore the liberals amongst society. There are more bullets than retards in this world, belive it or not.
Obviously, Den's ugly bird from Liberty would have to be silenced, but I'd happily pay for that bullet...
be silenced
I have just the 'bullet' here for that job. :-X :-* :-*
Shami - in the unlikely event you happen upon the pages of this journal, take heart on the knowledge that Uncle Denny fancies the pants off you. :-* :-* :-* :-*
Not sure she would find that a complement, where you say the same about most of the oldest, roughest, most ugly birds in the universe on the planet, breathing or not. :o :o :o ;) :P :P :P ;D ;D ;D
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If the war against drugs was winnable
It is, if we are able to ignore the liberals amongst society. There are more bullets than retards in this world, belive it or not.
Obviously, Den's ugly bird from Liberty would have to be silenced, but I'd happily pay for that bullet...
be silenced
I have just the 'bullet' here for that job. :-X :-* :-*
Shami - in the unlikely event you happen upon the pages of this journal, take heart on the knowledge that Uncle Denny fancies the pants off you. :-* :-* :-* :-*
Is that before or after she's had a shave :D ;D ;D ;D
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I'm a Shami fan. :y
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I was in the Question Time audience one week when Shami Chakrabarti was on the panel. She's just as good looking in the flesh, and she was quite happy to mingle with the audience after the show and chat to a few of us. She came across as very nice person.
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I was in the Question Time audience one week when Shami Chakrabarti was on the panel. She's just as good looking in the flesh, and she was quite happy to mingle with the audience after the show and chat to a few of us. She came across as very nice person, badly needed a shave though! :o
Fixed that for you jimac. :y ;)
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Fixed that for you jimac. :y ;)
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I was in the Question Time audience one week when Shami Chakrabarti was on the panel. She's just as good looking in the flesh, and she was quite happy to mingle with the audience after the show and chat to a few of us. She came across as very nice person, badly needed a shave though! :o
Fixed that for you jimac. :y ;)
Naughty! I didn't even look inside her knickers. ;)
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If the war against drugs was winnable
It is, if we are able to ignore the liberals amongst society. There are more bullets than retards in this world, belive it or not.
Well said TB.
I have loads as can be seen from another topic of mine :y
Sad thing is TB, that my nephew is a druggie, brother of my lovely niece who was a serving police officer. (See my other topic on my niece).
How can two people be at two ends of the spectrum? and he is still alive? WTF?
I weep with this drug problem, I really do.
Seems like the government(s) are targeting alcohol rather than hard drugs. >:( >:(
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Seems like the government(s) are targeting alcohol rather than hard drugs. >:( >:(
The upper echelons of the civil service are keen to send drinking amongst the masses the same way as smoking amongst the masses
(I am a non-smoker, BTW)
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If the war against drugs was winnable
It is, if we are able to ignore the liberals amongst society. There are more bullets than retards in this world, belive it or not.
Well said TB.
I have loads as can be seen from another topic of mine :y
Sad thing is TB, that my nephew is a druggie, brother of my lovely niece who was a serving police officer. (See my other topic on my niece).
How can two people be at two ends of the spectrum? and he is still alive? WTF?
I weep with this drug problem, I really do.
Seems like the government(s) are targeting alcohol rather than hard drugs. >:( >:(
Easier to tax ;)