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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: horsecow on 09 August 2012, 21:31:14
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Long story but I'll shorten it much as I can. Car accident in May, constant headache since, plus 1-2 migraines per week and sore neck and shoulders. I'm told the headache is linked to the neck pain, something to do with nerves in my neck. Been to the doc a good few times was given various different meds but no real change. Went back to doc today and he said there's basically nothing more they can do, that its a form of arthritis in my neck and shoulders and I'll just have to live with it. He said an operation may help it but that he wouldn't advise an operation on my neck unless I start to lose feeling in one or both arms!! My question is does any1 here now anything about this kind of stuff ad is there anything I can do/take to help this?? Should I be looking for a 2nd opinion??
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arthritus is treated with a steriod injection or joint replacement...did u have an x ray as you can not diagnose arthritus without one
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Had several x rays of my back and neck and had ct scan done on my head but they couldn't find anything wrong on the x-rays or ct scan. Said it has to be down to muscle/nerve damage??
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arthritus is treated with a steriod injection or joint replacement...did u have an x ray as you can not diagnose arthritus without one
The arthritis in my shoulder was diagnosed via a scan. ;) I've having the injection the week after next. :y :y
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Had several x rays of my back and neck and had ct scan done on my head but they couldn't find anything wrong on the x-rays or ct scan. Said it has to be down to muscle/nerve damage??
Muscular problems are generally treatable with physio, so see one of them.
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Injections never worked for me .... :(
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Physio is the next step, just waiting on appointment now
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I'd bet on the accident agrivating degenerative disc disorder. But what ever, there's nerves being aggravated. Physio or Chyropractic manipulation can help spasms and apparently unexplained pain.
It may not be able to affect the underlying cause, but the symptoms will respond to hands on treatment IME.
But the above is hear say though.
Doctors are the worlds worst for skelatol and joint issues, you need a specialist. Either Physio or Chyropractor? Maybe Physio first, and progress to Chyro if more heavy treatment is needed.
Certainly seak a second/other opinion.
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I'd bet on the accident agrivating degenerative disc disorder. But what ever, there's nerves being aggravated. Physio or Chyropractic manipulation can help spasms and apparently unexplained pain.
It may not be able to affect the underlying cause, but the symptoms will respond to hands on treatment IME.
But the above is hear say though.
Doctors are the worlds worst for skelatol and joint issues, you need a specialist. Either Physio or Chyropractor? Maybe Physio first, and progress to Chyro if more heavy treatment is needed.
Certainly seak a second/other opinion.
I've been to 2 different physio's privately, 3 sessions with each. They did help ease the pain in my neck and 1 told me that I had 3 vertebrae out of place, which he put back in, but were out again when I went back but none of them have helped the headache or the migraines. The brain scan is perfectly clear so they tell me the headaches have to be linked to the neck pain.
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Doctors have no use in this world
Fixed that for you, Gixer
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if you have soft tissue damage then you do not need a chiropractor and physio works on muscle (i.e soft tissue) and a chiro practor is bone crunching
the steriod injection i had in my bursa muscle did help although i am awaiting one into my hip joint :y
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I'd bet on the accident agrivating degenerative disc disorder. But what ever, there's nerves being aggravated. Physio or Chyropractic manipulation can help spasms and apparently unexplained pain.
It may not be able to affect the underlying cause, but the symptoms will respond to hands on treatment IME.
But the above is hear say though.
Doctors are the worlds worst for skelatol and joint issues, you need a specialist. Either Physio or Chyropractor? Maybe Physio first, and progress to Chyro if more heavy treatment is needed.
Certainly seak a second/other opinion.
I've been to 2 different physio's privately, 3 sessions with each. They did help ease the pain in my neck and 1 told me that I had 3 vertebrae out of place, which he put back in, but were out again when I went back but none of them have helped the headache or the migraines. The brain scan is perfectly clear so they tell me the headaches have to be linked to the neck pain.
If there is no disc degeneration or fragments in the x-rays of the spine, and purely a vertibrae alignment issue, I'd say Chyro is the way. Head aches, sinus pain and dizziness are almost normal IME. Depends which vertebrae that affect which surrounding nerves as I understand it.
A jolt can miss align the spine. It may need a jolt and or firm manipulation to put it back. Chyro can be a bit fierce though, but sometimes that's what's needed.
Entwood speaks highly of Mctimony(?) Chyropractic.
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if you have soft tissue damage then you do not need a chiropractor and physio works on muscle (i.e soft tissue) and a chiro practor is bone crunching
the steriod injection i had in my bursa muscle did help although i am awaiting one into my hip joint :y
how is 3 bertibrae out of place sof tissue damage though? See a Physio all year, it's hopeless unless the skeleton is sitting correctly. An area Physio generally falls short on. Unless the Physio is open minded with a wide range of skills, not just Physio,of course. If you find one of those, bloody keep hold of them.
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your vertabrae move due to the muscles around them being damaged thats your soft tissue a physio is trained to realign your spine where a chiropractor is'nt although they can do it but they can also leave you paralysed
so yes a physio would work a lot better in this case mind you when i was in the l.a.s both physio and chiropractors were seen as mumbo jumbo rubbish....how times change :y
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Doctors have no use in this world
Fixed that for you, Gixer
General Practitioner. They can't know everything, so "should" refer a patient to the right specialist. I can understand them failing your "particular needs" though. ;D
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Doctors have no use in this world
Fixed that for you, Gixer
General Practitioner. They can't know everything, so "should" refer a patient to the right specialist. I can understand them failing your "particular needs" though. ;D
well this is it they don't...the clue is in the word general...they know how to treat sore throats,ear aches etc but they dont know everything about everything they know a little about general stuff and most are docs in a and e and you either get a bad one who generally can't be arsed or you get a good one :y
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As I say I'm waiting on physio appointment again. Basically the GP told me to accept the headaches and neck pain and be glad that the brain scan came back clear. Told me to avoid all physical work and look for a new job!
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your vertabrae move due to the muscles around them being damaged thats your soft tissue a physio is trained to realign your spine where a chiropractor is'nt although they can do it but they can also leave you paralysed
so yes a physio would work a lot better in this case mind you when i was in the l.a.s both physio and chiropractors were seen as mumbo jumbo rubbish....how times change :y
they do if the vetibrae don't aggravate nerves>cause spasms>pull the spine out of alignment. Which is why you need one with knowledge of the other. Hopefully the level of knowledge in the particular field matches the patients needs. Sadly it doesn't always... IME.
Osteopath might be more suitable, as a half way house, but no experience with those.
Depends on the cause, obviously. ;)
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As I say I'm waiting on physio appointment again. Basically the GP told me to accept the headaches and neck pain and be glad that the brain scan came back clear. Told me to avoid all physical work and look for a new job!
Ignore him, listen to the specialists though.
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your vertabrae move due to the muscles around them being damaged thats your soft tissue a physio is trained to realign your spine where a chiropractor is'nt although they can do it but they can also leave you paralysed
so yes a physio would work a lot better in this case mind you when i was in the l.a.s both physio and chiropractors were seen as mumbo jumbo rubbish....how times change :y
they do if the vetibrae don't aggravate nerves>cause spasms>pull the spine out of alignment. Which is why you need one with knowledge of the other. Hopefully the level of knowledge in the particular field matches the patients needs. Sadly it doesn't always... IME.
Osteopath might be more suitable, as a half way house, but no experience with those.
Depends on the cause, obviously. ;)
no difference to a chriopractor but the osteopath works just on your back...chriopractor should work on whole body
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Long story but I'll shorten it much as I can. Car accident in May, constant headache since, plus 1-2 migraines per week and sore neck and shoulders. I'm told the headache is linked to the neck pain, something to do with nerves in my neck. Been to the doc a good few times was given various different meds but no real change. Went back to doc today and he said there's basically nothing more they can do, that its a form of arthritis in my neck and shoulders and I'll just have to live with it. He said an operation may help it but that he wouldn't advise an operation on my neck unless I start to lose feeling in one or both arms!! My question is does any1 here now anything about this kind of stuff ad is there anything I can do/take to help this?? Should I be looking for a 2nd opinion??
Précis: According to your quack, a car accident in May has given you arthritis. ??? ::) ::)
Hmm. Second opinion, without a doubt. :y
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your vertabrae move due to the muscles around them being damaged thats your soft tissue a physio is trained to realign your spine where a chiropractor is'nt although they can do it but they can also leave you paralysed
so yes a physio would work a lot better in this case mind you when i was in the l.a.s both physio and chiropractors were seen as mumbo jumbo rubbish....how times change :y
they do if the vetibrae don't aggravate nerves>cause spasms>pull the spine out of alignment. Which is why you need one with knowledge of the other. Hopefully the level of knowledge in the particular field matches the patients needs. Sadly it doesn't always... IME.
Osteopath might be more suitable, as a half way house, but no experience with those.
Depends on the cause, obviously. ;)
no difference to a chriopractor but the osteopath works just on your back...chriopractor should work on whole body
No, osteos work on all areas.
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your vertabrae move due to the muscles around them being damaged thats your soft tissue a physio is trained to realign your spine where a chiropractor is'nt although they can do it but they can also leave you paralysed
so yes a physio would work a lot better in this case mind you when i was in the l.a.s both physio and chiropractors were seen as mumbo jumbo rubbish....how times change :y
they do if the vetibrae don't aggravate nerves>cause spasms>pull the spine out of alignment. Which is why you need one with knowledge of the other. Hopefully the level of knowledge in the particular field matches the patients needs. Sadly it doesn't always... IME.
Osteopath might be more suitable, as a half way house, but no experience with those.
Depends on the cause, obviously. ;)
nerves are totally different too muscles....and nerves don't/cant spasm your muscles do...if your are haveing problems with your nerves thats a different ball game although and you need too see a nuero surgeon :y
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your vertabrae move due to the muscles around them being damaged thats your soft tissue a physio is trained to realign your spine where a chiropractor is'nt although they can do it but they can also leave you paralysed
so yes a physio would work a lot better in this case mind you when i was in the l.a.s both physio and chiropractors were seen as mumbo jumbo rubbish....how times change :y
they do if the vetibrae don't aggravate nerves>cause spasms>pull the spine out of alignment. Which is why you need one with knowledge of the other. Hopefully the level of knowledge in the particular field matches the patients needs. Sadly it doesn't always... IME.
Osteopath might be more suitable, as a half way house, but no experience with those.
Depends on the cause, obviously. ;)
no difference to a chriopractor but the osteopath works just on your back...chriopractor should work on whole body
No, osteos work on all areas.
not all although most nowadays are chiropractors as well i think it is an extra year on the course
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Long story but I'll shorten it much as I can. Car accident in May, constant headache since, plus 1-2 migraines per week and sore neck and shoulders. I'm told the headache is linked to the neck pain, something to do with nerves in my neck. Been to the doc a good few times was given various different meds but no real change. Went back to doc today and he said there's basically nothing more they can do, that its a form of arthritis in my neck and shoulders and I'll just have to live with it. He said an operation may help it but that he wouldn't advise an operation on my neck unless I start to lose feeling in one or both arms!! My question is does any1 here now anything about this kind of stuff ad is there anything I can do/take to help this?? Should I be looking for a 2nd opinion??
Précis: According to your quack, a car accident in May has given you arthritis. ??? ::) ::)
Hmm. Second opinion, without a doubt. :y
Yes I thought that, how does a car accident cause a degenerative condition. Although he did say a form of...:-\ DDD might be the form of... And damage to the discs might follow from an accident. There by causing the bvrtibrae to sit oddly. :-\
Anyway, very best of luck to the op.
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your vertabrae move due to the muscles around them being damaged thats your soft tissue a physio is trained to realign your spine where a chiropractor is'nt although they can do it but they can also leave you paralysed
so yes a physio would work a lot better in this case mind you when i was in the l.a.s both physio and chiropractors were seen as mumbo jumbo rubbish....how times change :y
they do if the vetibrae don't aggravate nerves>cause spasms>pull the spine out of alignment. Which is why you need one with knowledge of the other. Hopefully the level of knowledge in the particular field matches the patients needs. Sadly it doesn't always... IME.
Osteopath might be more suitable, as a half way house, but no experience with those.
Depends on the cause, obviously. ;)
nerves are totally different too muscles....and nerves don't/cant spasm your muscles do...if your are haveing problems with your nerves thats a different ball game although and you need too see a nuero surgeon :y
;D the nerves operate the muscles ya nutter ;D
Aggregate a nerve, muscle spasm can, and usually does result. ;)
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Thanks for all the advice guys, didn't know there were so many experts on here. Hopefully it'll get sorted soon, getting fed up of having a headache!! I'll give the physio a shot anyway and I think I'll look for another GP
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well as i said in my previous post nerves and muscles are totally different
and not all types of arthritus are a cause of degenerative changes....
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Thanks for all the advice guys, didn't know there were so many experts on here. Hopefully it'll get sorted soon, getting fed up of having a headache!! I'll give the physio a shot anyway and I think I'll look for another GP
...hope you get it sorted hc. Tens machine and paracetamol/ibuprofen work eventually for me for short term pain relief. Just a thought. :)