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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: omegafin on 10 August 2012, 14:19:30
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Omega will return next year :D
http://www.autoevolution.com/news/future-rwd-opel-omega-to-be-underpinned-by-cadillac-xts-47586.html
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Be surprised if its made, no real market for it anymore :(
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This is also in wrong section ;)
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http://www.autoblog.com/2012/07/24/cadillac-xts-to-become-opel-flagship-sedan/ (http://www.autoblog.com/2012/07/24/cadillac-xts-to-become-opel-flagship-sedan/)
More pictures here :y
And i must say this looks great much better than the Insignia but if it does come it will takes ages to become affordable :-\
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Hope so, would give us omega fanatics something to aim for in a few years.
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Where's my cheque book :) very nice .
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Already available since 2007 as the Holden Calais, about $Au 85,000 new, and makes an Elite Omega look underequipped :y
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Ugly as sin imo.
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Ugly as sin imo.
Holden version much better looking :y
http://m.holden.com.au/vehicles/caprice/v-series (http://m.holden.com.au/vehicles/caprice/v-series) :y
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Ugly as sin imo.
Holden version much better looking :y
http://m.holden.com.au/vehicles/caprice/v-series (http://m.holden.com.au/vehicles/caprice/v-series) :y
Hmmmm 6.0 V8,oh yeah :y :y
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Can't see any reason why the shape would not be completely re-designed.
And in the European market Gm need to take on the Germans of Audi Mercedes and Bmw(spit) and their rear wheel drives, to make head way. No chance of that with the insignia.
Can GM compete on build quality though?
And I shan't be holding my breath for a v8 model btw.
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Me neither Chris :-\ but... Buy the cheapest engine for the spec you want, 3.0 manual perhaps?, and drop an LS7 in :y you know it'll bolt straight in 8)
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does it come with a easy access engine 2.2.... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Omega will return next year :D
http://www.autoevolution.com/news/future-rwd-opel-omega-to-be-underpinned-by-cadillac-xts-47586.html
Can't be arsed to sign up, but there's a comments box.
I think...
"To the General.
Just import the Holden Commadore and stop buggering about."
...would cover it. :)
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Can GM compete on build quality though?
I think that was the (perceived) problem with the Omega, really.. the brand just isn't perceived well enough to support the price tag compared to a similar (though less well equipped, almost certainly) Deutschebarge..
..granted it seems to be a realistic perception when I look at how much interior trim has dropped off my mates Omega (and the same bits are starting to fall off mine - the plastic backs of the front seats, for example)..
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...or the rattling interior trim on my mint 48k compared to my mates older, S Type with more miles that has spent most of its lire in London :(, which is silent
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Can GM compete on build quality though?
I think that was the (perceived) problem with the Omega, really.. the brand just isn't perceived well enough to support the price tag compared to a similar (though less well equipped, almost certainly) Deutschebarge..
..granted it seems to be a realistic perception when I look at how much interior trim has dropped off my mates Omega (and the same bits are starting to fall off mine - the plastic backs of the front seats, for example)..
The facelift is a step backwards as far as build quality is concerned, but my PFL has worn much better than most similar aged 5/7 series I've seen, except body rust (the PFL acheles heal).
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In equipment terms the next closest car of a similar vintage is perhaps the BM 7 series, over twice the price new, and just as shabby after a few years/miles, or a pre '99 Mercedes S class which was three times the price. These are made from granite, hence the new price difference. :-\
The only thing in my mind that lets the F/L Omega down is the coice of some of the materials, rather than the way that it's actually screwed together :y
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The tactile finish is crap on the face lift interior, as was the fashion on several cars at the time.. And the rattly door pins.
Other than that, it's far superior to the pfl :)
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The tactile finish is crap on the face lift interior, as was the fashion on several cars at the time.. And the rattly door pins.
Other than that, it's far superior to the pfl :)
Rattly door pins easy to fix :y early facelift door cards with late facelift pins :y no more rattles for me...
Well, none from the door pins :-X
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After some googling, it seems any theory can be backed up by something found on the Internet.
http://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-news/holden-commodore-going-to-europe-ar43943.html
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After some googling, it seems any theory can be backed up by something found on the Internet.
http://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-news/holden-commodore-going-to-europe-ar43943.html
:y window line is pure large VE Holden...
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These Holden Caprice's look nice! :)
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2007-Holden-Caprice-WM-Gold-5sp-Sedan-/280763555537?pt=AU_Cars&hash=item415ecfded1#ht_2395wt_1344
A tad pricey though at around £14,000!! :o
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That's the car that the Signum should have been :y
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Hmmm not so good news :-\
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/07/out-of-thin-air-great-lies-of-the-carblogs-today-cadillac-xts-turns-into-opel-omega/
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Yep, as Clarkson once said, there are a gazillion trillion billion "facts" on the Internet...AND ALL OF THEM ARE WRONG! ...every single one of them.
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The tactile finish is crap on the face lift interior, as was the fashion on several cars at the time.. And the rattly door pins.
Other than that, it's far superior to the pfl :)
You forgot the sunroof. The sunroof paint flakes like a Head and Shoulders user. And the glovebox. And the centre armrest. In fact the entire interior.
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http://www.autoblog.com/2012/07/24/cadillac-xts-to-become-opel-flagship-sedan/ (http://www.autoblog.com/2012/07/24/cadillac-xts-to-become-opel-flagship-sedan/)
More pictures here :y
And i must say this looks great much better than the Insignia but if it does come it will takes ages to become affordable :-\
You can imagine that with a Vauxhall badge in that grill. Looks good :y.
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Yes, GM/Holden/Vauxhall can build a decent RWD saloon. Unfortunately there are so many disincentives to sell proper cars in this country that we'll never see them. Sooner or later BMW will go over to producing FWD 4pot diseasel sh1tboxes and their work will be complete. ;D
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The tactile finish is crap on the face lift interior, as was the fashion on several cars at the time.. And the rattly door pins.
Other than that, it's far superior to the pfl :)
You forgot the sunroof. The sunroof paint flakes like a Head and Shoulders user. And the glovebox. And the centre armrest. In fact the entire interior.
what's wrong with the Glove box? Never had a problem with it.
And the pre face lift cheap nasty fake leather centre arm rest bubbles up like a blister all on its own with bits of yellow foam poring out of it like pustule infested galloping dermatitis ! And no drinks holder. ;D
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The tactile finish is crap on the face lift interior, as was the fashion on several cars at the time.. And the rattly door pins.
Other than that, it's far superior to the pfl :)
You forgot the sunroof. The sunroof paint flakes like a Head and Shoulders user. And the glovebox. And the centre armrest. In fact the entire interior.
what's wrong with the Glove box? Never had a problem with it.
And the pre face lift cheap nasty fake leather centre arm rest bubbles up like a blister all on its own with bits of yellow foam poring out of it like pustule infested galloping dermatitis ! And no drinks holder. ;D
There might as well not be any they couldn't put them in a more awkward position if they tried ;D also the glove box is rediciously too small and the soft touch buttons/switches peel / go white hmmm that about it if I say more it may look like I'm running the omega down :-X
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Yes, GM/Holden/Vauxhall can build a decent RWD saloon. Unfortunately there are so many disincentives to sell proper cars in this country that we'll never see them. Sooner or later BMW will go over to producing FWD 4pot diseasel sh1tboxes and their work will be complete. ;D
Seems like sooner then ::)
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/bmw/fwd-bmw-1-series-scooped
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Yes, GM/Holden/Vauxhall can build a decent RWD saloon. Unfortunately there are so many disincentives to sell proper cars in this country that we'll never see them. Sooner or later BMW will go over to producing FWD 4pot diseasel sh1tboxes and their work will be complete. ;D
Seems like sooner then ::)
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/bmw/fwd-bmw-1-series-scooped
Thats pig ugly :(
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Yes, GM/Holden/Vauxhall can build a decent RWD saloon. Unfortunately there are so many disincentives to sell proper cars in this country that we'll never see them. Sooner or later BMW will go over to producing FWD 4pot diseasel sh1tboxes and their work will be complete. ;D
Seems like sooner then ::)
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/bmw/fwd-bmw-1-series-scooped
Thats pig ugly :(
Always has looked like a Noddy car. ;D I'm wondering if that new cr@p little Audi is worse though. Close call.
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Those pesky germans do actually understand irony. Skoda have just launched the new Rapid ::)
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Those pesky germans do actually understand irony. Skoda have just launched the new Rapid ::)
They're talking about how readily the interior trim falls off, surely? ;D
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Rattly door pins easy to fix :y early facelift door cards with late facelift pins :y no more rattles for me...
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Fitting late facelift pins is the fix?
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To clarify, I have a late FL with the square topped pins. My car left the factory with door cards that have the little frame around the pin.
I've since replaced the interior twice:
Firstly with the doorcards from a '00 W early FL, to which I retro fitted the pin frames. These rattled like a bastid ::)
Secondly with the doorcards from another '00 early FL, which I fitted without modification. No rattles :)
Early FL have a slightly smaller pin which is pointed, whereas later ones have a larger pin which is squared off.
This larger pin fits the hole in the earlier doorcards nice and snuggly. :y
To cure the rattles:
Early FL: simply fit later square topped pins. Just pop out the orange/red square and lift out. :y
Later FL: either fit earlier doorcards, or dismantle the frames and renew the foam ring inside it. The doorcards need to be removed to do this, the foam insert is pence from VX but some of the plastic parts are £30ish so don't break them :-\
HTH, Al :y
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Those pesky germans do actually understand irony. Skoda have just launched the new Rapid ::)
They're talking about how readily the interior trim falls off, surely? ;D
They're all brittle plastic and clipped together :o at least the Omega is actually bolted together. ::) If GM can manage that why are VeWilltakeovertheworldsomehow unable :-\
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This is a car with a Skoda badge on. They have customer expectations to meet, you know. ;)
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They don't have real customers, taxi dealers by them buy the boatload and sell the at £70per week over ten years to broke taxidrivers who really don't care what they drive and only bought one because everyone else did ::) and older people who only buy beige Fabias, and only because they're 3 grand cheaper than a basic Polo :-X
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They don't have real customers, taxi dealers by them buy the boatload and sell the at £70per week over ten years to broke taxidrivers who really don't care what they drive and only bought one because everyone else did ::) and older people who only buy beige Fabias, and only because they're 3 grand cheaper than a basic Polo :-X
You forgot the frustrated rep who really wanted a BMW 3 series but didn't hit his targets so he got a hand-me-down "Superb" (more irony) and now vents his frustration at other road users by driving like an @rs3h0l3. >:(
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The real kicker with that is that the superb in question is more than likely a base model ex taxi with intergalactic mileage and a drivers seat that is basically a padding free bench, and which on a warm day almost smells of sick and kebabs ;D
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And.. time for a sniffpetrol link... ;D
(http://livesniffpetrol.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/SPAD_Octavia.jpg)
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Reminds me of the VW Passat Taxi I was in few weeks back, going from Eysford in Kent (near M20) back to my flat in London, it was after a wedding so quite "merry" in the back.
I got a bit worried when taxi driver started using TomTom, got even more worried when I looked out window to see signs for Gatwick! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Luckily was fixed price taxi, good job, think he made a loss on us! ;D
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That's the one Kevin :y
Students never learn anything ::) should have used proper firm :P
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At fixed price of 60 quid from Kent to West London, it was too good to pass up!
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You gets what you pay for ::)