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Title: 2.0 16v Auto (LPG) - EML on and car in limp mode
Post by: Guinney1971 on 14 August 2012, 18:06:23
Hi all,

as per title, EML came on this afternoon without warning, and car has gone into limp mode.

Its got plenty of petrol, a nearly full tank of LPG, the oil level looks fine on the dipstick (despite the intermittent oil leak) and there's plenty of coolant in it.

Is this a main dealer jobbie (at oodles of money) or will a local garage have the 'computer says no' equipment?

Or failing that, anyone local to Nottinghamshire with a diagnostic kit?

Getting fed up of spending money on the car now, tempted to just make it look pretty and get rid   :-\

Claire
Title: Re: 2.0 16v Auto (LPG) - EML on and car in limp mode
Post by: Steve B on 14 August 2012, 18:15:48
mark DTM is very near to you..send him a pm :y he has tec 2 to read your codes
Title: Re: 2.0 16v Auto (LPG) - EML on and car in limp mode
Post by: Guinney1971 on 14 August 2012, 18:25:36
cheers matey, will do that :)

Another friend has suggested it could the the MAF - the one on my car is a scrapyard one (I assume) as its got blue splodges on it, similar to the ones that our local scrappy put on parts when they sell them.

I've found and Ebay seller (Vaux-World) selling new ones for £28.30 plus P&P - does that sound reasonable?  Dont want to risk a s/h one again if thats the problem.

ta,

Claire
Title: Re: 2.0 16v Auto (LPG) - EML on and car in limp mode
Post by: RobG on 14 August 2012, 18:28:31
2.0ltr so paperclip for codes http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90581.0
Title: Re: 2.0 16v Auto (LPG) - EML on and car in limp mode
Post by: Webby the Bear on 14 August 2012, 18:28:58
you need codes read before you throw parts at it  :y
Title: Re: 2.0 16v Auto (LPG) - EML on and car in limp mode
Post by: Guinney1971 on 14 August 2012, 18:32:39
2.0ltr so paperclip for codes http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90581.0

crikey!!  Had no idea you could self diagnose like that!   :o
Title: Re: 2.0 16v Auto (LPG) - EML on and car in limp mode
Post by: Webby the Bear on 14 August 2012, 18:35:01
2.0ltr so paperclip for codes http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90581.0

crikey!!  Had no idea you could self diagnose like that!   :o

i believe the PC test does show non-current codes... so best to get a tech2 dude on it if poss.
Title: Re: 2.0 16v Auto (LPG) - EML on and car in limp mode
Post by: TheBoy on 14 August 2012, 18:35:57
Yup, paperclippable.

But given the location of Marks DTM, might be worth getting him to give it the once over - he has the equipment, and more importantly, the knowhow. I would highly recommend him.
Title: Re: 2.0 16v Auto (LPG) - EML on and car in limp mode
Post by: Guinney1971 on 14 August 2012, 18:52:48
we're just trying to find a paperclip, but have also pm'd Mark about tech 2.

thanks for all the advice, what would I do without you guys (scrap the Omega probably! lol)

Claire
Title: Re: 2.0 16v Auto (LPG) - EML on and car in limp mode
Post by: Guinney1971 on 14 August 2012, 19:03:14
just done paperclip test, and its giving the following codes over and over again:

10 - 10 - 3 - 4

can't seem to make sense of that on the fault code listing - engine doesn't sound like its misfiring, its still running *fine* and drives - albeit in limp mode as it wont go much over 2300rpm.

Confused dot com !   ???

I'll wait to hear back from my PM to Mark and see if he's free (and localish) to me.

Claire
Title: Re: 2.0 16v Auto (LPG) - EML on and car in limp mode
Post by: RobG on 14 August 2012, 19:07:09
just done paperclip test, and its giving the following codes over and over again:

10 - 10 - 3 - 4

can't seem to make sense of that on the fault code listing - engine doesn't sound like its misfiring, its still running *fine* and drives - albeit in limp mode as it wont go much over 2300rpm.

Confused dot com !   ???

I'll wait to hear back from my PM to Mark and see if he's free (and localish) to me.

Claire
Sure it`s not 10 - 3 - 4 - 10 (classic cam sensor symptoms, restricted RPM)
Title: Re: 2.0 16v Auto (LPG) - EML on and car in limp mode
Post by: Guinney1971 on 14 August 2012, 19:09:42
it could well be, got abit lost watching the numbers go round and trying to write them down.

So, what sort of job is a cam sensor then.......... ::)

Claire
Title: Re: 2.0 16v Auto (LPG) - EML on and car in limp mode
Post by: Guinney1971 on 14 August 2012, 19:12:22
is this the beastie in question:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vauxhall-ASTRA-OMEGA-VECTRA-CAM-CAMSHAFT-SENSOR-NEW-/190460618420?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2c585666b4#ht_1270wt_1064

At least its cheaper then a MAF !!   ;D

Claire
Title: Re: 2.0 16v Auto (LPG) - EML on and car in limp mode
Post by: RobG on 14 August 2012, 19:13:22
Only buy genuine from VX. Easy job, pretty much the same as the 2.2
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90628.0
Title: Re: 2.0 16v Auto (LPG) - EML on and car in limp mode
Post by: Guinney1971 on 14 August 2012, 19:18:21
Only buy genuine from VX. Easy job, pretty much the same as the 2.2
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90628.0

fab stuff, thanks Rob  :)

I guess this is one of those 'could have changed it when James came to do the cambelt' jobs  ::)

Will ring Vauxhall in the morning to price the part up.

thanks again to everyone for the help and advice, much appreciated!   :y

Claire
Title: Re: 2.0 16v Auto (LPG) - EML on and car in limp mode
Post by: RobG on 14 August 2012, 19:19:43
Just doublecheck that the flash code is 10-3-4-10  (0340) :)
Title: Re: 2.0 16v Auto (LPG) - EML on and car in limp mode
Post by: Guinney1971 on 14 August 2012, 21:18:48
will do it again tomorrow, when we did the paper clip test tonight it did keep repeating that sequence however.

cheers,

Claire
Title: Re: 2.0 16v Auto (LPG) - EML on and car in limp mode
Post by: TheBoy on 14 August 2012, 21:37:26
Cam sensor is likely, but check with paperclip in morning :)

Quite easy to change if it is.
Title: Re: 2.0 16v Auto (LPG) - EML on and car in limp mode
Post by: Guinney1971 on 14 August 2012, 22:30:14
Have come to the conclusion that I'll need to take out the old sensor to find out which type I need to order from Vauxhall, as I dont know if my car has the modified one or not.

Its all good fun, eh!!  ::)

Claire
Title: Re: 2.0 16v Auto (LPG) - EML on and car in limp mode
Post by: Guinney1971 on 16 August 2012, 13:45:57
I've removed my old cam sensor this morning - it is the modified type - I then fell off my chair when Parts Bod at local Vauxhall Dealer said he had them in stock at £60 inc VAT !!!   :o

Quick trawl of t'internet, turned the correct one up, for £25 plus a bit of P&P, so I'll stick my feet up and wait for the Postie to bring it to me, and in the mean time use my DeLorean as the daily driver!   ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

Claire
Title: Re: 2.0 16v Auto (LPG) - EML on and car in limp mode
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 16 August 2012, 13:50:14
It might well be fine... I know for crank sensors, gen GM is a must - not sure if this applies to cam sensors too....  :-\
Title: Re: 2.0 16v Auto (LPG) - EML on and car in limp mode
Post by: Guinney1971 on 16 August 2012, 13:51:28
this is a gen one, same Siemens part number and branding as my old one  :)

Claire