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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: STMO123 on 17 August 2012, 18:30:06
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Jailed for two years. Good.
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Bad. Does Stalin still have the reins?
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We need to mind our own fickin business. If I lived in Moscow and I decided to sing anti-Putin songs from the altar of a cathedral, I would expect no less than to be shot. The world does not revolve around GB/US and pretty soon China/ Brazil/Russia etc will be in a position to tell us to eff off or they'll call their debts in.
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Had more publicity than any other singing group in the world this year. Mad Donna and Tuneless McCartney are fighting the good fight on their behalf. ;) ::)
The two years inside could be a good investment.They will make squillions doing all the U.S chatshows when they get out.Probably be an otherwise unavailable record contract and concert tours etc. handed to them too.
No such thing as bad publicity in showbiz. :)
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We need to mind our own fickin business. If I lived in Moscow and I decided to sing anti-Putin songs from the altar of a cathedral, I would expect no less than to be shot. The world does not revolve around GB/US and pretty soon China/ Brazil/Russia etc will be in a position to tell us to eff off or they'll call their debts in.
Abso- freakin-lutely, about time we kept our noses out of other countries affairs Iraq, Libya and Syria spring to mind
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Interesting outcome. I am not sure Putin (he will have rubber stamped the sentence) could do anything else. In the West they would have got some community service (which they may or may not have bothered to do).
By the way we are minding our own business. These sort of protests come to the worlds attention via the modern phenomena of the Internet. We have no way of avoiding exposure. Maybe I have missed the GB government telling Putin to let them off.
Russia has changed a lot but really things are returning to the old Soviet days. Belarus and Ukraine looked as though they were becoming more liberal but they too look to be returning to old days.
It will be interesting to see Rods2 take on events.
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We need to mind our own fickin business. If I lived in Moscow and I decided to sing anti-Putin songs from the altar of a cathedral, I would expect no less than to be shot. The world does not revolve around GB/US and pretty soon China/ Brazil/Russia etc will be in a position to tell us to eff off or they'll call their debts in.
If you lived in the time of Stalin, Khrushchev and Brezhnev you would have been...........and then they would have strung you up by your gonads for good measure.......and then they would have shot Mrs STMO......and her mother....and the dog ::) ::) ::) :)
However, that was then and this is now.
Not a big fan of Putin. Old Gorby was much more enlightened. :y
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Interesting outcome. I am not sure Putin (he will have rubber stamped the sentence) could do anything else. In the West they would have got some community service (which they may or may not have bothered to do).
By the way we are minding our own business. These sort of protests come to the worlds attention via the modern phenomena of the Internet. We have no way of avoiding exposure. Maybe I have missed the GB government telling Putin to let them off.
Russia has changed a lot but really things are returning to the old Soviet days. Belarus and Ukraine looked as though they were becoming more liberal but they too look to be returning to old days.
It will be interesting to see Rods2 take on events.
It's none of our business which ever way these countries are turning. We are very selective in our criticism, aren't we?
Assad is bad for putting down the dissenters who roam the streets with guns. But we hardly hear about the Saudi dictators who do the same. Or the Bahrainis. No....we buy our oil from them and they own half of the companies listed on the FTSE100. And half of the large office buildings in London.
What do we want next? A Russian spring? A Chinese spring? By trying to force our ideals on to cultures that work in a totally different way to us, in order to create a 'better and fairer' world, we are in danger of tipping the whole balance of power. Watch out.
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I would tend to agree with that.As sure as god made green apples,the Arab spring will bite the west on the arse. The vacuum created by the removal of the tyrannical regimes will be filled by Muslim fundamentalists who will create havoc in years to come imo.
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what is happening what happened to the good old days when you would see a post by STMO intitled pussy and you would get whats written on the tin dont tell me hes..hes..normal now ffs :o :o
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what is happening what happened to the good old days when you would see a post by STMO intitled pussy and you would get whats written on the tin dont tell me hes..hes..normal now ffs :o :o
Quiet Lovescock! This is for grown-ups :P
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Hes lulling you into a false sense of security,then he will insult you mercilessly when your not expecting it. ;) ;D
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Hes lulling you into a false sense of security,then he will insult you mercilessly when your not expecting it. ;) ;D
Too late ;D ;D
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what is happening what happened to the good old days when you would see a post by STMO intitled pussy and you would get whats written on the tin dont tell me hes..hes..normal now ffs :o :o
Quiet Lovescock! This is for grown-ups :P
Told ya. :P ::) ;D
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what is happening what happened to the good old days when you would see a post by STMO intitled pussy and you would get whats written on the tin dont tell me hes..hes..normal now ffs :o :o
Quiet Lovescock! This is for grown-ups :P
;D ;D ;D ok then i am going to what you done to your car today :P :P
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I'd love to be in the midst of rioting pussies. :-* :-* :-* :y
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Den,you need help. ;D
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I'd love to be in the midst of rioting pussies. :-* :-* :-* :y
Put it away, Den. ;D
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dont think Den needs any help whatsoever just a dozen or so pussies :P :P
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Den,you need help. ;D
I did the last time I was in a riot situation - the perpetrators were mostly hairy-arsed fekers of the male gender. :( :(
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i am in the play ground if you want me Albs thats when you finished with your new mate :-[
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Den,you need help. ;D
I did the last time I was in a riot situation - the perpetrators were most hairy-arsed fekers of the male gender. :( :(
Did you threaten them with your 'truncheon'? ;D
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Den,you need help. ;D
I did the last time I was in a riot situation - the perpetrators were most hairy-arsed fekers of the male gender. :( :(
what the irish :)
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or did they all have perms and jogging bottoms
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Den,you need help. ;D
I did the last time I was in a riot situation - the perpetrators were most hairy-arsed fekers of the male gender. :( :(
what the irish :)
It was difficult to tell PL as most of them didn't, couldn't or wouldn't speak the Queen's English. ;D ;D
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Ni jus yoo hang on there a wee minute big lad. ;D ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sRxYmkUhGk&feature=related
Den is the one at the front leading the charge with his riot shield. ;) :)
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Russia and Ukraine are somewhat more religious countries than the UK and I'm sure many people were very offended by this blasphemous act as we were when a student urinated on one of our war memorials. Considering the different moral values in Russia, I personally don't think the sentences were unreasonable. I sure if the Beatles and done a similar thing in the 1950's they would have received a similar sentence.
Their societies are much more conformist than ours and although a large percentage of men and women both work as a rule outside of work men are expected to act as men and women as women. Women are proud of their looks, styling and dress sense and being able to cook well for their husbands and create a 'cozy' house. Where here the media (especially the BBC) publicize women trying to act as men and men expected to express their sensitive feminine side. Personally I prefer their role model and feel more comfortable in such a society.
Ukrainian democracy is very different to the UK where in some areas they are more amenable to major changes in policy than here, like when they were debating a new tax code which would have increased the taxes and reduced the benefits of being self-employed. A few evenings of well behaved peaceful demonstrations in Kiev by large numbers of self employed showed the depth of the peoples feeling, so the president dropped the changes.
If you are out to provoke the government and its authority then they will act in a more forceful manner than they probably will in the UK (unless your peacefully demonstrate at a UK Labour party conference), but different countries, different cultures, different values. How different is this to Singapore and other Asian democracies?
I think the media and left wing activists like to create a storm as soon as a societies values are different to ours by trying to take the moral high ground and saying our values are automatically right therefore theirs must be wrong. This is very ill-liberal and ill-tolerant in not respecting their values which are just as valid (and IMHO in many cases better) instead of accepting different societies have different moral views and those societies tolerances and views should be respected. After all this is what makes societies culturally different.
Imagine if they had done this at a holy place in Mecca as a protest at the Saudi Arabian ruling elite there. :o :o :o :o I think they would of been praying every night to just get 2 years and would have accepted that with relief even if had meant sharing a cell with DD. :o :o :o :o
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Ni jus yoo hang on there a wee minute big lad. ;D ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sRxYmkUhGk&feature=related
Den is the one at the front leading the charge with his riot shield. ;) :)
furking hell how we forget, unless of course you were in the midst of it :-[ feel like an idiot now :-* :-*
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We need to mind our own fickin business. If I lived in Moscow and I decided to sing anti-Putin songs from the altar of a cathedral, I would expect no less than to be shot. The world does not revolve around GB/US and pretty soon China/ Brazil/Russia etc will be in a position to tell us to eff off or they'll call their debts in.
very realistic picture :y
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Interesting outcome. I am not sure Putin (he will have rubber stamped the sentence) could do anything else. In the West they would have got some community service (which they may or may not have bothered to do).
By the way we are minding our own business. These sort of protests come to the worlds attention via the modern phenomena of the Internet. We have no way of avoiding exposure. Maybe I have missed the GB government telling Putin to let them off.
Russia has changed a lot but really things are returning to the old Soviet days. Belarus and Ukraine looked as though they were becoming more liberal but they too look to be returning to old days.
It will be interesting to see Rods2 take on events.
It's none of our business which ever way these countries are turning. We are very selective in our criticism, aren't we?
Assad is bad for putting down the dissenters who roam the streets with guns. But we hardly hear about the Saudi dictators who do the same. Or the Bahrainis. No....we buy our oil from them and they own half of the companies listed on the FTSE100. And half of the large office buildings in London.
What do we want next? A Russian spring? A Chinese spring? By trying to force our ideals on to cultures that work in a totally different way to us, in order to create a 'better and fairer' world, we are in danger of tipping the whole balance of power. Watch out.
:y :y :y
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I would tend to agree with that.As sure as god made green apples,the Arab spring will bite the west on the arse. The vacuum created by the removal of the tyrannical regimes will be filled by Muslim fundamentalists who will create havoc in years to come imo.
BANG ON !! :y :y :y
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We need to mind our own fickin business. If I lived in Moscow and I decided to sing anti-Putin songs from the altar of a cathedral, I would expect no less than to be shot. The world does not revolve around GB/US and pretty soon China/ Brazil/Russia etc will be in a position to tell us to eff off or they'll call their debts in.
If you lived in the time of Stalin, Khrushchev and Brezhnev you would have been...........and then they would have strung you up by your gonads for good measure.......and then they would have shot Mrs STMO......and her mother....and the dog ::) ::) ::) :)
However, that was then and this is now.
Not a big fan of Putin. Old Gorby was much more enlightened. :y
cant agree Opti.. he was nothing more than a miserable merchant who announced its bankruptcy >:(
he was in a position to lead the country not tear it into pieces >:( >:( any random picked man on the russian street could do that..
god knows how many families are parted and deprived and how many russian woman are forced to prostitution inside/outside the country..
and sharks quickly share the russian market and many things.. I hope god forgive him >:( >:( >:(
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DD I couldn't find any rioting pussies, just a sporting one from an un-televised new Olympic Sport. :y :y :y :y
You will need a youtube account to view as age restricted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoAbYmMU-PU&o (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoAbYmMU-PU&o)
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DD I couldn't find any rioting pussies, just a sporting one from an un-televised new Olympic Sport. :y :y :y :y
You will need a youtube account to view as age restricted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoAbYmMU-PU&o (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoAbYmMU-PU&o)
;D ;D ;D with such accuracy, that pussy undoubtedly had a very good eye. :-* :-*
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Russia and Ukraine are somewhat more religious countries than the UK and I'm sure many people were very offended by this blasphemous act as we were when a student urinated on one of our war memorials. Considering the different moral values in Russia, I personally don't think the sentences were unreasonable. I sure if the Beatles and done a similar thing in the 1950's they would have received a similar sentence.
Their societies are much more conformist than ours and although a large percentage of men and women both work as a rule outside of work men are expected to act as men and women as women. Women are proud of their looks, styling and dress sense and being able to cook well for their husbands and create a 'cozy' house. Where here the media (especially the BBC) publicize women trying to act as men and men expected to express their sensitive feminine side. Personally I prefer their role model and feel more comfortable in such a society.
Ukrainian democracy is very different to the UK where in some areas they are more amenable to major changes in policy than here, like when they were debating a new tax code which would have increased the taxes and reduced the benefits of being self-employed. A few evenings of well behaved peaceful demonstrations in Kiev by large numbers of self employed showed the depth of the peoples feeling, so the president dropped the changes.
If you are out to provoke the government and its authority then they will act in a more forceful manner than they probably will in the UK (unless your peacefully demonstrate at a UK Labour party conference), but different countries, different cultures, different values. How different is this to Singapore and other Asian democracies?
I think the media and left wing activists like to create a storm as soon as a societies values are different to ours by trying to take the moral high ground and saying our values are automatically right therefore theirs must be wrong. This is very ill-liberal and ill-tolerant in not respecting their values which are just as valid (and IMHO in many cases better) instead of accepting different societies have different moral views and those societies tolerances and views should be respected. After all this is what makes societies culturally different.
Imagine if they had done this at a holy place in Mecca as a protest at the Saudi Arabian ruling elite there. :o :o :o :o I think they would of been praying every night to just get 2 years and would have accepted that with relief even if had meant sharing a cell with DD. :o :o :o :o
Well said..... :y :y
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Russia and Ukraine are somewhat more religious countries than the UK and I'm sure many people were very offended by this blasphemous act as we were when a student urinated on one of our war memorials. Considering the different moral values in Russia, I personally don't think the sentences were unreasonable. I sure if the Beatles and done a similar thing in the 1950's they would have received a similar sentence.//....
Yes I would certainly agree with that.
Given the current climate there this was an ill-advised act at best - although I'm more inclined to think it an indulgent display of excessive behaviour perpetrated in a place and in a way designed to cause the most offence and garner the maximum amount of publicity.
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http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_did_mikhail_Gorbachev_do_for_the_soviet_union (http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_did_mikhail_Gorbachev_do_for_the_soviet_union)
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