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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Auto Addict on 20 August 2012, 16:25:16
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Making a horrible clattering noise under bonnet, sounds like the front end :(
Cam belt and tensioners changed 10,000 miles ago.
When it cools down, I'm going to disconnect the aux. belt.
Aux belt tensioner and bearing changed 4,000 miles ago.
Doesn't sound good :(
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When I had this, (on the 2.2) was the waterpump, same thing only about 10k old. But it was making a horrible noise when just turned manually when removed...
Hopefully when you disconnect the aux belt, it will sound sweet :)
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good luck,as you say sounds a little worrying :-\
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Genuine Vx water pump fitted with the cam belt @ 10k.
....but here's hoping.
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Genuine Vx water pump fitted with the cam belt @ 10k.
....but here's hoping.
Heard of quite a few new water pumps letting go :y
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The good news is, the noise disapears when I remove the aux belt.
Sounds like water pump.
Anyone available in the West Midlands area to help me fit a new one please?
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The good news is, the noise disapears when I remove the aux belt.
Sounds like water pump.
Anyone available in the West Midlands area to help me fit a new one please?
Pleased to hear :y
I'm not around for a few days, but if you get really stuck give me a shout :)
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Can you feel any roughness in the water pump pulley by hand (or any of the other ancillaries, for that matter?).
Still, a result that the cam belt is OK (especially considering the muppets who fitted it). :-X
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Anyone available in the West Midlands area to help me fit a new one please?
I'm in Wolverhampton and would be willing to lend a hand.
P.M. me if needed...
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Anyone available in the West Midlands area to help me fit a new one please?
I'm in Wolverhampton and would be willing to lend a hand.
P.M. me if needed...
Thank you, PM sent.
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Can you feel any roughness in the water pump pulley by hand (or any of the other ancillaries, for that matter?).
Still, a result that the cam belt is OK (especially considering the muppets who fitted it). :-X
Which pully is the water pump?
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(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z257/belisensis/OMEGAFORUM/V6AuxBeltRoute.jpg)
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(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z257/belisensis/OMEGAFORUM/V6AuxBeltRoute.jpg)
:y :y :y :y
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Defo water pump.
Can you believe it's on factory order, 2/4 days delivery.
:o
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Defo water pump.
Can you believe it's on factory order, 2/4 days delivery.
:o
Yes! The newest Omega isn't far off 10 yrs old. ;) ;)
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Defo water pump.
Can you believe it's on factory order, 2/4 days delivery.
:o
I hope they're replacing it FOC? ::) Or I'd be going to a well known aftermarket pump personally ;)
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Defo water pump.
Can you believe it's on factory order, 2/4 days delivery.
:o
I hope they're replacing it FOC? ::) Or I'd be going to a well known aftermarket pump personally ;)
Just checked the receipt, it was an aftermaket one :(
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Defo water pump.
Can you believe it's on factory order, 2/4 days delivery.
:o
I hope they're replacing it FOC? ::) Or I'd be going to a well known aftermarket pump personally ;)
Just checked the receipt, it was an aftermaket one :(
Same here >:(
It failed after 18 months and only a few 000 miles - the supplier said that it was only covered by 12 months warranty. I said that wasn't good enough so was asked to send it back for inspection.
I sent it back, but apparently it was never received. Must use recorded delivery next time. I then needed one PDQ so went genuine Vx as was in stock. Not a happy bunny.
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I replaced my waterpump a few weeks ago using an aftermarket alternative. Vauxhall were asking 'silly' money for the genuine, somewhere around £130 if I remember correctly. The aftermarket pump was circa £35 and is running fine at the moment. I've used genuine parts on each job I've done with this exception, on the basis I can fit another one if necessary (hope not though). I'll still be ahead on £'s but will have to put in my own labour!
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I replaced my waterpump a few weeks ago using an aftermarket alternative. Vauxhall were asking 'silly' money for the genuine, somewhere around £130 if I remember correctly. The aftermarket pump was circa £35 and is running fine at the moment. I've used genuine parts on each job I've done with this exception, on the basis I can fit another one if necessary (hope not though). I'll still be ahead on £'s but will have to put in my own labour!
That's a fair point, but with TC the price drops to about £80. You will also have lost about £15 of coolant. That essentially closes the gap.
To be fair, I did two within a short space of time and the other one has been fine.
Swings, roundabouts ..............
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Fair point, in my case I was still flushing the system after replacing the oil cooler so the coolant cost didn't enter my head, I'd still got to do it anyway (done now). I would have paid £80 for a better potential result though!
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There is a spare SKF v6 waterpump in my garage.... ....but that doesn't really help, does it ;D
More than willing to help you change it at the weekend, if you think it will make it to me...
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There is a spare SKF v6 waterpump in my garage.... ....but that doesn't really help, does it ;D
More than willing to help you change it at the weekend, if you think it will make it to me...
Thanks, should be sorted tomorrow :y
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Can I ask what I suppose will be a dumb question to most of you. ;D
Why is there the emphasis on VX parts, rather than just going to a major car factor ? I have had cars for 50 years (almost) and have fitted water pumps to all sorts from A30 to Granada, Senator, Rover 820 SI, etc. No water pump has ever failed on me on any other car, so I am intrigued why the Omega is different. Is it the engine sizes, or the way the cooling system works.
Just curious, but answer might satisfy others curiosity too :y
Tony
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Good to hear the problem in question is about to be resolved.
Good question re genuine parts (water pump in this case). For me personally, I've owned my Omega from 9 months old (Vauxhall scheme) I was doing 'motorway' miles on business and used 'professional' servicing etc due to time constraints etc in the early years. I couldn't bring myself to part with the car and now I have more time I've set about bringing it back to 'peak' so far as I can.
Amongst the members there is an obvious wide experience of parts sourcing and performance results (as would be expected), all of which does influence my personal choices. Genuine parts seem to get the thumbs up for many tasks.
I would have used a Vauxhall water pump personally but the price has gone through the roof recently so didn't make sense this time, not competitive at all (not withstanding the arguement re possible failure of aftermarket parts and coolant refresh costs).
Could be an element of hearing about the failures rather than successes, I'm sure there are many views?
Cheers.
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Car had done 67K when I bought it.
Changed the cam belt and tensioners, water pump looked original.
Vx cam belt kit fitted, aftermarket water pump fitted.
Water pump failed after 10K.
Genuine being fitted today.
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TBH, I wouldn't pa Vx prices for a water pump. I'd fit a known brand like SKF for less than half the price.
Terbert, there are very few parts that are recommended from Vx because of quality (cam cover gaskets and sensors mainly), the rest is because they are very good value on TC.
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Can I ask what I suppose will be a dumb question to most of you. ;D
Why is there the emphasis on VX parts, rather than just going to a major car factor ? I have had cars for 50 years (almost) and have fitted water pumps to all sorts from A30 to Granada, Senator, Rover 820 SI, etc. No water pump has ever failed on me on any other car, so I am intrigued why the Omega is different. Is it the engine sizes, or the way the cooling system works.
Just curious, but answer might satisfy others curiosity too :y
Tony
My feeling is that in recent years we have seen some pretty poor quality pattern parts for sale that are simply not fit for purpose. I too have always maintained my own cars and, until recently, have just bought whatever the motor factors had. I can't recall ever having a part fail a second time.
The recent experience we have had with certain parts shows that's not a sensible route to take any more. Whether it's just because Omega parts don't sell in vast quantities, and therefore get less development effort, or a general problem across all vehicles I don't know.
I certainly wouldn't bother changing a V6 water pump as a matter of course any more. It's not normally a catastrophe when they fail, as we've seen, and when I changed mine last year it leaked straight away due to a poor sealing O ring supplied with the (pattern) pump.
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Thanks for the answers fella's.
Paul...I certainly agree with you about cam covers etc :y
Kevin...well explained. My outlook is normally, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. ;D (that does not apply to Cambelts !!!!)
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Interesting, when EP changed the pump yesterday, he noticed that one of the pulley wheels was sitting slightly proud, and has worn a groove into the cam belt cover.
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Interesting, when EP changed the pump yesterday, he noticed that one of the pulley wheels was sitting slightly proud, and has worn a groove into the cam belt cover.
I think either the wrong washer has been fitted or the guide has been fitted the wrong way around ::)
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Interesting, when EP changed the pump yesterday, he noticed that one of the pulley wheels was sitting slightly proud, and has worn a groove into the cam belt cover.
I think either the wrong washer has been fitted or the guide has been fitted the wrong way around ::)
As KW mentioned, not suprising, considering the muppets that fitted it!
;D ;D ;D ;D
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Interesting, when EP changed the pump yesterday, he noticed that one of the pulley wheels was sitting slightly proud, and has worn a groove into the cam belt cover.
I think either the wrong washer has been fitted or the guide has been fitted the wrong way around ::)
As KW mentioned, not suprising, considering the muppets that fitted it!
;D ;D ;D ;D
So who was that then ::)
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Interesting, when EP changed the pump yesterday, he noticed that one of the pulley wheels was sitting slightly proud, and has worn a groove into the cam belt cover.
I think either the wrong washer has been fitted or the guide has been fitted the wrong way around ::)
As KW mentioned, not suprising, considering the muppets that fitted it!
;D ;D ;D ;D
So who was that then ::)
My lips are sealed ;)