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Title: Could You Pass Again?
Post by: waspy on 30 August 2012, 19:44:28
If I'm honest..... Without a few lessons & revision I don't think I could.
What about you?

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Title: Re: Could You Pass Again?
Post by: Shackeng on 30 August 2012, 19:58:38
No chance, I doubt if I know what half of the road signs mean nowadays. As I am a senior driver, I drive at sensible speeds, try to keep within speed limits, and rely on experience to keep me out of trouble, as I imagine most drivers do after a few decades on the road. :y
Title: Re: Could You Pass Again?
Post by: twiglet on 30 August 2012, 20:01:40
I'm just preparing to take the IAM tests for both car and motorbike, so I'd like to think I could pass the standard test...   :-\

Perhaps I should buy a mini-skirt, just in case...  ;)
Title: Re: Could You Pass Again?
Post by: Lazydocker on 30 August 2012, 20:25:24
Probably... But I'd have to have a couple of lessons to remind me what bad habits I have picked up! ::)
Title: Re: Could You Pass Again?
Post by: TheBoy on 30 August 2012, 20:43:11
I'd have to learn the 'new' methods of driving, but reckon I could pass OK, having jusy last week discussed the test with my niece and nephew, and what their minors were (and majors in case of my niece)
Title: Re: Could You Pass Again?
Post by: plym ian on 30 August 2012, 20:58:39
was I supposed to take a test to drive, got my licence off a bloke in a pub ;D ;D


seriously no don't think I would tbh :(

but I know I would pass the theory test as I have done some mock tests on line just to prove swmbo wrong ;D ;D
Title: Re: Could You Pass Again?
Post by: Crazycarzowner on 30 August 2012, 21:12:37
Did me advanced requal. in Febuary, now that was hard work.  :o :o :o
Title: Re: Could You Pass Again?
Post by: Varche on 30 August 2012, 21:18:07
I couldn't pass a Spanish one. ;D ;D

Wait six seconds at a Stop sign even if nothing around, taking last exit on a dual carriageway roundabout stay in inside lane and don't indicate except to leave the roundabout. There are many other wierdness too.
Title: Re: Could You Pass Again?
Post by: Brikhead on 30 August 2012, 21:23:23
...I'd have to have a couple of lessons to remind me what bad habits I have picked up! ::)

I had to do that first time around :-[
Title: Re: Could You Pass Again?
Post by: Vamps on 30 August 2012, 22:40:12
I would like to think I would have a good chance, but would like a lesson or two just to check.... ::) ::)
Title: Re: Could You Pass Again?
Post by: Andy B on 30 August 2012, 22:45:59
I passed my 'invitation' to attend a speed awareness course a few years ago ........ does that count?  ;D ;D ;D
They come out with some BS.  eg don't cross your hands across the steering wheel, just in case the airbag went off & broke your arm(s)  ??? ??? and don't drive your auto with two feet, incase you press both pedals at the same time!!!!  ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Could You Pass Again?
Post by: PhilRich on 30 August 2012, 23:00:46
I reckon I'd get away with it if I painted my white stick black! ;D
Title: Re: Could You Pass Again?
Post by: the alarming man on 31 August 2012, 08:51:51
I'm just preparing to take the IAM tests for both car and motorbike, so I'd like to think I could pass the standard test...   :-\

Perhaps I should buy a mini-skirt, just in case...  ;)

 
not if you are driving to the correct system to pass the advanced test you would fail on improper use of mirrors not because you are not using them but the DSA system of car control is different to the advanced test...i get retested every 3-4 years so may be able to pass but as before really  :y
Title: Re: Could You Pass Again?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 31 August 2012, 09:21:30
Perhaps I should buy a mini-skirt, just in case...  ;)

You jest, but I remember back when I was at school a mate of mine got his driving test appointment. It was about half an hour before he'd have to leave home to go to a performance of the Rocky Horror Picture Show. He was one of the more flamboyant fancy dress types who regularly went to to see it and wouldn't have time to get the "gear" on after his test so yes, you guessed it. He took his driving test in stockings, suspenders, basque, the works, with a dodgy raincoat over the top. :o

He passed, too. ;D
Title: Re: Could You Pass Again?
Post by: mantahatch on 31 August 2012, 09:29:50
I doubt I would pass, I have a habit of resting my right elbow on the window ledge bit of the door  :-[ In a way I support the idea of retesting people. That said it would have to be a fair test with age and experience taken into account.
I would retest younger people more than older people, say Young people every 2 to 3 years upto say 40 years old and then every 5 years up to say 75 years old and then possibly back every 2 to 3 years above 75. But the test for older people would be just basic competency nothing more.


Just as a small criticism of driving tests, if an able bodied person takes a driving test he has to keep both hands on the steering wheel. A person with only one arm obviously does not. My gripe is what is ok for one should be ok for the other should it not ?
Title: Re: Could You Pass Again?
Post by: DaveA on 31 August 2012, 09:37:23
    Don't think I would, picked up some bad habits over the years :'( :'(
Title: Re: Could You Pass Again?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 31 August 2012, 10:15:14
I doubt I would pass, I have a habit of resting my right elbow on the window ledge bit of the door  :-[ In a way I support the idea of retesting people.

Me too. In any other field where potentially dangerous vehicles or machinery are being used there would be a programme of regular re-assessment and re-training. Why not for driving?

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Just as a small criticism of driving tests, if an able bodied person takes a driving test he has to keep both hands on the steering wheel. A person with only one arm obviously does not. My gripe is what is ok for one should be ok for the other should it not ?

Presumably because if an able-bodied person doesn't have both hands on the wheel he's probably texting, eating, picking his nose, etc. with the other hand and thus likely to be distracted from the job in hand.
Title: Re: Could You Pass Again?
Post by: TheBoy on 31 August 2012, 10:34:37
Must be a bugger for a one armed person to drive whilst eating a bag full of those 99p McDonalds hamburgers...
Title: Re: Could You Pass Again?
Post by: Lazydocker on 31 August 2012, 10:46:41
Must be a bugger for a one armed person to drive whilst eating a bag full of those 99p McDonalds hamburgers...
That's what knees are for :-X ::)
Title: Re: Could You Pass Again?
Post by: Marie on 31 August 2012, 10:55:23
i reckon i would 18 months ago i had to do B+E, D1, C1, C+E

its the awarness test they make you do now that are the issue lol
Title: Re: Could You Pass Again?
Post by: TheBoy on 31 August 2012, 11:04:29
Must be a bugger for a one armed person to drive whilst eating a bag full of those 99p McDonalds hamburgers...
That's what knees are for :-X ::)
Doesn't work with Irmscher steering wheels...  ...apparently  ::)
Title: Re: Could You Pass Again?
Post by: the alarming man on 31 August 2012, 11:11:27
the french lorry driver i have just seen never would on the m20 tanking along at 60 whilst eating a bowl of ceral i think  >:(
Title: Re: Could You Pass Again?
Post by: Andy B on 31 August 2012, 12:44:14
.....
Doesn't work with Irmscher steering wheels...  ...apparently  ::)

 ???  ???  ??? it does!  ::)  ::)  ::)
Title: Re: Could You Pass Again?
Post by: horsecow on 31 August 2012, 14:11:12
I had to redo it about 8 yrs ago. Picked up too many points in my boy racer days and got disqualified!! had been driving for about 6 yrs when I lost them. Going into the test was easy enough, pretty relaxed just knew I had to concentrate and try to forget the bad habits. Had great chat with the examiner and told him what happened while I was doing the test. He didn't seem to test me much, just observed my driving and chatted away. Everything went perfect until I made a one handed turn (90 right) into the test centre car park which he commented on immediately!!!!!!!!!! Once I'd parked up he said ''I'm sorry to say.... you've passed''. Then he started laughing and said no-one does that hand to hand thing on the steering wheel, its just stupid!! I think its all down to the examiner you get on the day, some of them have a total power trip once they are on a test and then on the other hand some must sleep through the test when you see some of the drivers out there!!!
Title: Re: Could You Pass Again?
Post by: big mel on 31 August 2012, 17:01:27
I think i might just scrape through, after spending 44yrs driving hgv's but you are learning all the time, does anyone remember a program on tv called Highway Patrol? the program allways ended with the star of the show saying, be as good a driver as you think you are. good advice i think.
Title: Re: Could You Pass Again?
Post by: twiglet on 31 August 2012, 19:50:26
I think i might just scrape through, after spending 44yrs driving hgv's but you are learning all the time, does anyone remember a program on tv called Highway Patrol? the program allways ended with the star of the show saying, be as good a driver as you think you are. good advice i think.

Absolutely love your signature Mel... brings back some great memories of trucking with my dad! Happy days!!  :y
Title: Re: Could You Pass Again?
Post by: P6UL K on 02 September 2012, 23:22:33
Yeah, easy!

I have every catagory on my licence bar the full motorcycle and i'm proud to say i past every test first time, the latest being my Class 1 with only 2 minors!  8) 8)
Title: Re: Could You Pass Again?
Post by: Vamps on 02 September 2012, 23:40:21
Yeah, easy!

I have every catagory on my licence bar the full motorcycle and i'm proud to say i past every test first time, the latest being my Class 1 with only 2 minors!  8) 8)

Similar here, I have full motorcycle but don't think I can drive 'tracked' vehicles..... :y :y
Title: Re: Could You Pass Again?
Post by: Vamps on 02 September 2012, 23:44:27
i reckon i would 18 months ago i had to do B+E, D1, C1, C+E

its the awarness test they make you do now that are the issue lol

A couple of years ago when I was helping master Vamps learn the basics I had a go at the theory on the computer, I kept failing...........I was seeing more hazards and seeing others to early.... ::) ::)
Title: Re: Could You Pass Again?
Post by: dbug on 02 September 2012, 23:46:46
Must be a bugger for a one armed person to drive whilst eating a bag full of those 99p McDonalds hamburgers...
That's what knees are for :-X ::)

Absolutely right - only way to light a pipe in a TR with the roof down at 100mph  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Could You Pass Again?
Post by: albitz on 03 September 2012, 00:14:44
Yeah, easy!

I have every catagory on my licence bar the full motorcycle and i'm proud to say i past every test first time, the latest being my Class 1 with only 2 minors!  8) 8)

Me too - car, motorcycle,forklifts of various types & sizes. Didnt take any lessons for the car test,did a bit of practice with Dad sat beside me (with hand on handbrake),then took the test. I was amazed when I passed tbh.
Title: Re: Could You Pass Again?
Post by: Vamps on 03 September 2012, 00:31:49
I used to drive forklifts in work many moons ago, no tests then...... :D :D
Title: Re: Could You Pass Again?
Post by: feeutfo on 03 September 2012, 02:10:16
I'd pass the same original test. Not that thats relevant.

I don't think many would pass today's test without a brush up at least, and is it reasonable to expect to pass without some sort of research? I don't think it is.

As I've no idea what's even involved in today's test(s) :-\ I would not expect to pass if the test was taken this second.
Title: Re: Could You Pass Again?
Post by: YZ250 on 03 September 2012, 11:38:23
I'm still aware of the standard required to get through a driving test, having taught both my Son and Daughter to drive (saved them a fortune in lessons) but I would have to be quite focussed to stick with it for the duration of the test.
Title: Re: Could You Pass Again?
Post by: Elite Pete on 03 September 2012, 13:55:40
Doddle, I'm King of the road ::)
Title: Re: Could You Pass Again?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 03 September 2012, 14:02:45
Yeah, easy!

I have every catagory on my licence bar the full motorcycle and i'm proud to say i past every test first time, the latest being my Class 1 with only 2 minors!  8) 8)

Me too - car, motorcycle,forklifts of various types & sizes. Didnt take any lessons for the car test,did a bit of practice with Dad sat beside me (with hand on handbrake),then took the test. I was amazed when I passed tbh.
#

No such thing as a forklift 'license'  :y
Title: Re: Could You Pass Again?
Post by: henryd on 03 September 2012, 15:15:13
Yeah, easy!

I have every catagory on my licence bar the full motorcycle and i'm proud to say i past every test first time, the latest being my Class 1 with only 2 minors!  8) 8)

Me too - car, motorcycle,forklifts of various types & sizes. Didnt take any lessons for the car test,did a bit of practice with Dad sat beside me (with hand on handbrake),then took the test. I was amazed when I passed tbh.
#

No such thing as a forklift 'license'  :y

There is a forklift "ticket" but it doesn't go on your license
Title: Re: Could You Pass Again?
Post by: albitz on 03 September 2012, 15:24:17
Yeah, easy!

I have every catagory on my licence bar the full motorcycle and i'm proud to say i past every test first time, the latest being my Class 1 with only 2 minors!  8) 8)

Me too - car, motorcycle,forklifts of various types & sizes. Didnt take any lessons for the car test,did a bit of practice with Dad sat beside me (with hand on handbrake),then took the test. I was amazed when I passed tbh.
#

No such thing as a forklift 'license'  :y

Didnt say there was. ;)......But operators are normally tested at 3 year intervals in order to demonstrate their employers compliance with H&S rules & regs. Also normally further testing if changing to larger or fundamentally different types of machine.
Title: Re: Could You Pass Again?
Post by: Elite Pete on 03 September 2012, 16:02:06
Its a Certificate of Basic Training and you need one for every different piece of mechanised machinery. I did my reach one a few months ago and then had to do my counterbalance one because that's the one most employers want apparently  :( 
Title: Re: Could You Pass Again?
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 03 September 2012, 16:23:46
not me to many bad habits now ;D ;D
Title: Re: Could You Pass Again?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 04 September 2012, 09:41:54
There is actualy no test or certificate required to legaly drive a forklift, there is a recognised standard certificate of compitence which is overseen by a private firm.

What you will find is that some organisations have thier own internal training and certification standards and dont even consider the recognised 'certs' as acceptable (which is understandable).

Its all about compitency and your ability to demonstrate it plus, in the event of an accident, that you are able to prove that the compitency had been checked.

As an example, if you came to the heritage centre with a cert you would not be allowed to use any of the forklifts until you had completed out internal course and passed the required exam.  :y ......and you can get to an approved level without a cert.

I know this is also true of some firms to!
Title: Re: Could You Pass Again?
Post by: Jimbob on 04 September 2012, 09:45:48
There is actualy no test or certificate required to legaly drive a forklift, there is a recognised standard certificate of compitence which is overseen by a private firm.

What you will find is that some organisations have thier own internal training and certification standards and dont even consider the recognised 'certs' as acceptable (which is understandable).

Its all about compitency and your ability to demonstrate it plus, in the event of an accident, that you are able to prove that the compitency had been checked.

As an example, if you came to the heritage centre with a cert you would not be allowed to use any of the forklifts until you had completed out internal course and passed the required exam.  :y ......and you can get to an approved level without a cert.

I know this is also true of some firms to!

Really?  ::) :D ;D

(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa229/littlejimmym/misc%20car/DSC_0014_resize.jpg)

 ;D ;D ;D ;D :y
Title: Re: Could You Pass Again?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 04 September 2012, 12:11:30
Yes, the driving test is a doddle once you've remembered to focus on what you're doing ::)

Passed my C and CE in quick succession recently, and would happily take both again tomorrow  :y

Six minors on my C test and 5 on my CE, not too shabby for a taxi driving former multidrop driver :-X

Just got one module left for the CPC and job's jobbed :y
Title: Re: Could You Pass Again?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 04 September 2012, 12:14:32
There is actualy no test or certificate required to legaly drive a forklift, there is a recognised standard certificate of compitence which is overseen by a private firm.

What you will find is that some organisations have thier own internal training and certification standards and dont even consider the recognised 'certs' as acceptable (which is understandable).

Its all about compitency and your ability to demonstrate it plus, in the event of an accident, that you are able to prove that the compitency had been checked.

As an example, if you came to the heritage centre with a cert you would not be allowed to use any of the forklifts until you had completed out internal course and passed the required exam.  :y ......and you can get to an approved level without a cert.

I know this is also true of some firms to!

Really?  ::) :D ;D

(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa229/littlejimmym/misc%20car/DSC_0014_resize.jpg)

 ;D ;D ;D ;D :y

You were under the supervision of a passed out operator......and far from 'using' it  :y
Title: Re: Could You Pass Again?
Post by: Jimbob on 04 September 2012, 12:43:38
lol, very true!
Title: Re: Could You Pass Again?
Post by: PhilRich on 04 September 2012, 18:23:35
There is actualy no test or certificate required to legaly drive a forklift, there is a recognised standard certificate of compitence which is overseen by a private firm.

What you will find is that some organisations have thier own internal training and certification standards and dont even consider the recognised 'certs' as acceptable (which is understandable).

Its all about compitency and your ability to demonstrate it plus, in the event of an accident, that you are able to prove that the compitency had been checked.

As an example, if you came to the heritage centre with a cert you would not be allowed to use any of the forklifts until you had completed out internal course and passed the required exam.  :y ......and you can get to an approved level without a cert.

I know this is also true of some firms to!

Really?  ::) :D ;D

(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa229/littlejimmym/misc%20car/DSC_0014_resize.jpg)

 ;D ;D ;D ;D :y

You were under the supervision of a passed out operator......and far from 'using' it  :y






Crikey Jimbob, you weren't that bad you made poor Mark pass out were you :o ;D
Title: Re: Could You Pass Again?
Post by: blackviper90210 on 04 September 2012, 22:44:21
I doubt I would pass, I have a habit of resting my right elbow on the window ledge bit of the door  :-[ In a way I support the idea of retesting people. That said it would have to be a fair test with age and experience taken into account.
I would retest younger people more than older people, say Young people every 2 to 3 years upto say 40 years old and then every 5 years up to say 75 years old and then possibly back every 2 to 3 years above 75. But the test for older people would be just basic competency nothing more.


Just as a small criticism of driving tests, if an able bodied person takes a driving test he has to keep both hands on the steering wheel. A person with only one arm obviously does not. My gripe is what is ok for one should be ok for the other should it not ?

True, but if you only have the use of 1 arm, should you be banned from driving?  No. But they have as much control of the vehicle as they are physically able to..

If you have 2 arms/hands then both should be used to control the vehicle. 

Just imo  :y
Title: Re: Could You Pass Again?
Post by: moggy on 07 September 2012, 18:04:07
Safety first,when on a motorway.When should you overtake on the left,when the bastard in front of you wont move over. ;D :D
Title: Re: Could You Pass Again?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 07 September 2012, 18:16:21
I've driven all the way from Guildford to Norwich using only the lefthand lane for the entire 190 miles, with the single exception of 100yards of hard shoulder on the M25 when the driver of a car in the middle lane woke up and remembered which lane they were supposed to be in >:( ps it was 2am.