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Title: My apologies! (PM's) - and more MV6 surgery!
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 06 September 2012, 16:19:42
Hi Guys

I just wanted to apologise to anyone awaiting a PM from me. I think I'm up to date now, but please nudge me if not.

I've had my hands full the last couple of days. Sadly my Dual Mass Flywheel failed on the labour of love that I call my MV6. Although fun at first, I was getting sick of it in manual form, especially as I do mostly long runs now, seem to constantly get stuck in oxford traffic, and am getting rubbish economy due to the ratios - I decided to convert the poor thing back to an Automatic.

After convincing SWMBO that It was worth my time of converting the car back to automatic, (and also ignoring her suggestions to part ex it for a 5 series!), I set to work yesterday.

First job was to pull the AR35 (with sonnax washer already fitted by Mr Sassanach in 2009  8) ) off the breaker, along with the Torque converter, prop, brake pedal, flex plate, and gubbins. And of course the linkage, selector arrangement, trim, blah....

Then the MV6 went up in the air. Manual box, clutch, flywheel off, autobox bolted on. Selector assembly and linkage fitted. Sumps both cleaned out. Also left the TC draining overnight - it holds around a pint!! Also flushed the ATF cooler.

The only real snag was getting the spigot bearing etc etc out of the crank, so the TC would sit in there. That made me swear and drew a little blood..  ::)

So Car is now an auto again. 8+ litres of fresh ATF, And it drives SWEET  8)

A suggestion to anyone else fitting an AR35 on their own:

1) Don't. They're damn heavy. Get some poor unsuspecting sod to help you.

2) If, like me, you're a billy no mates and must proceed  ;D - I found that placing a rubber car mat on the 3 tonne trolley jack, before sitting the gearbox on it, worked beautifully. I was able to lift the box on no problems whatsoever and line it up.

Title: Re: My apologies! (PM's) - and more MV6 surgery!
Post by: SMD on 06 September 2012, 16:33:21
Good decision! Although it was rapid in manual form, the changes were very jerky and there was a lot of noise in the cabin although that was due to missing insulation and trim. Cons outweigh the pro IMO (the only one good thing was the speed). I do agree with your missus though, buy a 5 series or a XJ350

Are you confident the autobox coming out of that breaker is not liable to break after 5 mins?
Title: Re: My apologies! (PM's) - and more MV6 surgery!
Post by: aaronjb on 06 September 2012, 16:44:17
Hmmmm.. James, does that mean you have a spare complete manual conversion kit knocking about now? (Bar the DMF, I guess!)
Title: Re: My apologies! (PM's) - and more MV6 surgery!
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 06 September 2012, 16:51:16
conversion back to auto ??? :o   opppss :o
 
someone must pass over my dead body to do that to my car ;D
Title: Re: My apologies! (PM's) - and more MV6 surgery!
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 06 September 2012, 16:55:57
conversion back to auto ??? :o   opppss :o
 
someone must pass over my dead body to do that to my car ;D
better as auto anyway :y :y
Title: Re: My apologies! (PM's) - and more MV6 surgery!
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 06 September 2012, 16:59:28
Hmmmm.. James, does that mean you have a spare complete manual conversion kit knocking about now? (Bar the DMF, I guess!)

Afraid not mate.

I did consider flogging it, however considered it worthless without the DMF. The gearbox was noisy too, so I just scrapped the lot.

Still have the clutch pedal, and the master cylinder, if you need them though - not removed these yet!
Title: Re: My apologies! (PM's) - and more MV6 surgery!
Post by: omegod on 06 September 2012, 18:37:05
Would you object to us all having a sweep on the life of your new autobox?  ;) ;D
Title: Re: My apologies! (PM's) - and more MV6 surgery!
Post by: 05omegav6 on 06 September 2012, 18:50:35
Hmmmm.. James, does that mean you have a spare complete manual conversion kit knocking about now? (Bar the DMF, I guess!)

Afraid not mate.

I did consider flogging it, however considered it worthless without the DMF. The gearbox was noisy too, so I just scrapped the lot.

Still have the clutch pedal, and the master cylinder, if you need them though - not removed these yet!

I really hope that the the clutch slave cylinder feed is properly sealed :o otherwise your brake system is:

1. Open to the elements, so the brake fluid will be scrap in no time.

2. Will cover the underside of the car in brake fluid every time you accidently press the pedal, also depleting the fluid volume.

Aaron, the dmf is no biggy, they're the cheapest part of the clutch set up, £185 from VX last time I looked... :y
Title: Re: My apologies! (PM's) - and more MV6 surgery!
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 06 September 2012, 19:28:25


I really hope that the the clutch slave cylinder feed is properly sealed :o

Of course it is ;)
Title: Re: My apologies! (PM's) - and more MV6 surgery!
Post by: 05omegav6 on 06 September 2012, 20:01:42
With the original brake fluid reservoir... :y
Title: Re: My apologies! (PM's) - and more MV6 surgery!
Post by: Andy B on 06 September 2012, 22:18:45
......
Although fun at first, I was getting sick of it in manual form, especially as I do mostly long runs now, seem to constantly get stuck in oxford traffic, and am getting rubbish economy due to the ratios - I decided to convert the poor thing back to an Automatic.
......

 :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X ::) ::) :y :y
Title: Re: My apologies! (PM's) - and more MV6 surgery!
Post by: 05omegav6 on 07 September 2012, 17:32:20
Would you object to us all having a sweep on the life of your new autobox?  ;) ;D
The cynics might suggest that an autobox will always braeak, wheras a manual box, however noisy, will last indefinitely  provided there's oil in it ::)

Changing the diff to improve driveline ratio is easy enough, only 23 bolts and alot lighter the box :y
Title: Re: My apologies! (PM's) - and more MV6 surgery!
Post by: tooleater on 07 September 2012, 18:28:29
How much does it cost to recon a mig auto box these days,agree with your comment on manuals,as an x mini cab driver had a k reg carlton cdi manual. 100,000 when I aquired it 325.000 when scrapped  :opart from play in linkage box was still good great car :y
john
Title: Re: My apologies! (PM's) - and more MV6 surgery!
Post by: albitz on 07 September 2012, 19:11:37
How much does it cost to recon a mig auto box these days,agree with your comment on manuals,as an x mini cab driver had a k reg carlton cdi manual. 100,000 when I aquired it 325.000 when scrapped  :opart from play in linkage box was still good great car :y
john

Probably more than the car is worth.If you need one it may be best to post a wanted asd for a known good one. ;)
Title: Re: My apologies! (PM's) - and more MV6 surgery!
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 07 September 2012, 20:02:27
How much does it cost to recon a mig auto box these days,agree with your comment on manuals,as an x mini cab driver had a k reg carlton cdi manual. 100,000 when I aquired it 325.000 when scrapped  :opart from play in linkage box was still good great car :y
john

Probably more than the car is worth.If you need one it may be best to post a wanted asd for a known good one. ;)

here between 700 to 850 £.. and god knows how long that recondition will keep up..
 
I wish I listened to my mechanic friends and converted to manual the day I bought it :( 
Title: Re: My apologies! (PM's) - and more MV6 surgery!
Post by: tooleater on 07 September 2012, 22:00:09
No worries mate,mines a factory MV6 manual  :ywas only curious because alot 03 migs have come on the market lately,some cracking looking Elites but they only come in auto,theres on on the Bay apprently 230bhp. You can put money on it shes thrashed :'(